Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Hi all,

my Designer, who is working with me on part of the new NetBeans page and on the 
new logo, as you can remember, gave me some suggestions, build on my proposal 
for a new NetBeans SplashScreen. See the attachment for this.
 
What will be the next progress to bring it on, to the new NetBeans 9.0 Release? 
I think it is time for a rebranding and modern UI concept for NetBeans, the 
Logo and the Page under Apache and with the new major release of NB 9.0. Should 
I create a ticket for this? Because I can remember that Bertrand Delacretaz 
suggested it via a ticket or so.
 
I know that this is not so the highest priority for this but it shouldn’t be so 
low, because it is a part of the whole DIE and we should Focus on it too, 
before the NB 9.0 release, if we will handle it there, which makes sense.
 
 
Regards
 
Chris

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[ehsavoie]

You can't attach files to a mail sent to an apache mailing list :(
Could you provide a link instead ?
Cheers
Emmanuel

--
Emmanuel Hugonnet
http://www.ehsavoie.com
http://twitter.com/ehsavoie

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> my Designer, who is working with me on part of the new NetBeans page and
> on the new logo, as you can remember, gave me some suggestions, build on my
> proposal for a new NetBeans SplashScreen. See the attachment for this.
>
>
>
> What will be the next progress to bring it on, to the new NetBeans 9.0
> Release? I think it is time for a rebranding and modern UI concept for
> NetBeans, the Logo and the Page under Apache and with the new major release
> of NB 9.0. Should I create a ticket for this? Because I can remember that
> Bertrand Delacretaz suggested it via a ticket or so.
>
>
>
> I know that this is not so the highest priority for this but it shouldn’t
> be so low, because it is a part of the whole DIE and we should Focus on it
> too, before the NB 9.0 release, if we will handle it there, which makes
> sense.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Chris
>

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Sure, I forgot it, sry.
Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM

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Von: ehsavoie
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:36
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

You can't attach files to a mail sent to an apache mailing list :(
Could you provide a link instead ?
Cheers
Emmanuel

--
Emmanuel Hugonnet
http://www.ehsavoie.com
http://twitter.com/ehsavoie

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> my Designer, who is working with me on part of the new NetBeans page and
> on the new logo, as you can remember, gave me some suggestions, build on my
> proposal for a new NetBeans SplashScreen. See the attachment for this.
>
>
>
> What will be the next progress to bring it on, to the new NetBeans 9.0
> Release? I think it is time for a rebranding and modern UI concept for
> NetBeans, the Logo and the Page under Apache and with the new major release
> of NB 9.0. Should I create a ticket for this? Because I can remember that
> Bertrand Delacretaz suggested it via a ticket or so.
>
>
>
> I know that this is not so the highest priority for this but it shouldn’t
> be so low, because it is a part of the whole DIE and we should Focus on it
> too, before the NB 9.0 release, if we will handle it there, which makes
> sense.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Chris
>

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Neil C Smith]

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>

Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
uniform lighter weight.

Best wishes,

Neil
-- 
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

I can’t answered by my self properly, it Comes from the designer. I will ask 
him. For my perspective it is only a style element, nothing more. Sure we can 
have a Version with only emphasis the IDE + 9.0 or only IDE.

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Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>

Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
uniform lighter weight.

Best wishes,

Neil
-- 
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Tushar Joshi]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=
> 0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>

Shouldn't it be "Apache NetBeans IDE 9.0 (incubating)"?
Is there any rationale behind the flat look and no visual in background
like we used to have for all earlier splash screens?  I wuld like to know
that also.

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Because flat or material design is now a modern concept. If you like, I can 
provide the PSD file and you can add smth to the Background if you want. Atm I 
couldn’t find a good, modern looking Background pattern, accept from triangles, 
which Comes from a github repo, which I can’t found it anymore.

It is only a suggestion to not clutter stuff with stuff which is not needed 
anymore. Times goes by and design is changing fast so move on to it.

Yes it should be Apache NetBeans DIE 9.0 with or without incubation, I will add 
more later. Thx.

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:55
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=
> 0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>

Shouldn't it be "Apache NetBeans IDE 9.0 (incubating)"?
Is there any rationale behind the flat look and no visual in background
like we used to have for all earlier splash screens?  I wuld like to know
that also.

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Neil C Smith]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> I can’t answered by my self properly, it Comes from the designer. I will
> ask him. For my perspective it is only a style element, nothing more. Sure
> we can have a Version with only emphasis the IDE + 9.0 or only IDE.
>

OK.  I disagree that it's just a style element, though - bold is emphasis.
Personally, one confusion I've found amongst people who've not heard of
NetBeans before is that it's solely / mainly focused on online projects.
Shouting that bit out more doesn't help with that.

Best wishes,

Neil
-- 
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Sure, we can Change it.

Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 12:02
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> I can’t answered by my self properly, it Comes from the designer. I will
> ask him. For my perspective it is only a style element, nothing more. Sure
> we can have a Version with only emphasis the IDE + 9.0 or only IDE.
>

OK.  I disagree that it's just a style element, though - bold is emphasis.
Personally, one confusion I've found amongst people who've not heard of
NetBeans before is that it's solely / mainly focused on online projects.
Shouting that bit out more doesn't help with that.

Best wishes,

Neil
-- 
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

RE: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Cezariusz Marek]

> Yes it should be Apache NetBeans DIE 9.0 with or without incubation, I will 
> add more later. Thx.

NetBeans DIE, that was hard, lmao.

-- 
CM

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Grrr, sry xD german autocorrection :D

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Von: Cezariusz Marek
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 12:05
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

> Yes it should be Apache NetBeans DIE 9.0 with or without incubation, I will 
> add more later. Thx.

NetBeans DIE, that was hard, lmao.

-- 
CM

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

So here is the PSD file: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXclFYdG5oTkFLQ1E

Feel free to Change whatever you want. We use Helvetica Neue Lt STD LT and BD.

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi Chris

Am 28.06.2017 um 11:38 schrieb Christian Lenz:

Sure, I forgot it, sry.
Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM


I have to say, that I don't like any of them. They are looking sterile 
to me without any structure. I like the structured background of the 
current (and former) splash screens.


Greetings
Jens

--
http://blog.nigjo.de/netbeans/

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Sven Reimers]

I am missing the Apache feather...

Sven

Am 28.06.2017 13:23 schrieb "Jens Hofschröer" :

> Hi Chris
>
> Am 28.06.2017 um 11:38 schrieb Christian Lenz:
>
>> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
>> Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?
>> id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>>
>
> I have to say, that I don't like any of them. They are looking sterile to
> me without any structure. I like the structured background of the current
> (and former) splash screens.
>
> Greetings
> Jens
>
> --
> http://blog.nigjo.de/netbeans/
>

AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

@Neil here is the answer from the designer:

NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a seperation by 
the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once again by the 
bold Net.
It also highlights the digital approach and networking.

The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is already a 
separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.


For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or missing 
stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more, different styles 
later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to collect all 
ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a feather, sure we can have 
Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It is up to all of us to 
provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the same, you have the PSD 
or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside the netbeans Folder to Change 
it.

For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for everyone, I don’t 
like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not modern and the eyes 
are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern, better looking style 
for the logo, the splash Screen and the page. Some likes it, some not but in 
the end, there is so much Branding outside there, see visual Studio over the 
years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t get a rebranding of the page, the 
logo and the UI (except from the darcula 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash 
Screen for years. It is time to have a modern DIE now and this could happen 
under Apache. It is often a style Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not 
use it, if there are alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).

Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a change is 
better than no change.


Regards

Chris

Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>

Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
uniform lighter weight.

Best wishes,

Neil
-- 
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Dmitry Avtonomov]

Definitely not the ones with red borders - they look like an error message
box.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> @Neil here is the answer from the designer:
>
> NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a seperation
> by the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once again
> by the bold Net.
> It also highlights the digital approach and networking.
>
> The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is already
> a separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
> Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.
>
>
> For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or
> missing stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more, different
> styles later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to
> collect all ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a feather,
> sure we can have Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It is up
> to all of us to provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the
> same, you have the PSD or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside the
> netbeans Folder to Change it.
>
> For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for everyone, I
> don’t like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not modern
> and the eyes are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern,
> better looking style for the logo, the splash Screen and the page. Some
> likes it, some not but in the end, there is so much Branding outside there,
> see visual Studio over the years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t get
> a rebranding of the page, the logo and the UI (except from the darcula
> 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash Screen for years. It is time to have a
> modern DIE now and this could happen under Apache. It is often a style
> Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not use it, if there are
> alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).
>
> Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a change is
> better than no change.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz 
> wrote:
>
> > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> > Here is the link:
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
> >
>
> Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
> before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
> emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
> Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
> uniform lighter weight.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
>
>

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[John Yeary]

I personally like v1 kopie 2 since it seems to match up with the current
appearance. Nice work.



John Yeary

*NetBeans Dream Team*

*Founder Greenville Java Users GroupJava Users Groups Community Leader*


  
  





"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who
neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight
that knows not victory nor defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Definitely not the ones with red borders - they look like an error message
> box.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Christian Lenz 
> wrote:
>
> > @Neil here is the answer from the designer:
> >
> > NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a seperation
> > by the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once
> again
> > by the bold Net.
> > It also highlights the digital approach and networking.
> >
> > The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is
> already
> > a separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
> > Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.
> >
> >
> > For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or
> > missing stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more,
> different
> > styles later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to
> > collect all ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a feather,
> > sure we can have Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It is
> up
> > to all of us to provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the
> > same, you have the PSD or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside
> the
> > netbeans Folder to Change it.
> >
> > For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for everyone, I
> > don’t like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not modern
> > and the eyes are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern,
> > better looking style for the logo, the splash Screen and the page. Some
> > likes it, some not but in the end, there is so much Branding outside
> there,
> > see visual Studio over the years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t
> get
> > a rebranding of the page, the logo and the UI (except from the darcula
> > 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash Screen for years. It is time to
> have a
> > modern DIE now and this could happen under Apache. It is often a style
> > Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not use it, if there are
> > alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).
> >
> > Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a change is
> > better than no change.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Von: Neil C Smith
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
> > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> > > Here is the link:
> > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
> > >
> >
> > Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
> > before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
> > emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
> > Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
> > uniform lighter weight.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> > --
> > Neil C Smith
> > Artist & Technologist
> > www.neilcsmith.net
> >
> > Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
> >
> >
>

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Dmitry Avtonomov]

Here's my version:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5A3BtFY2Bv2WktLcXVKdVVqYWM

Best,
Dmitry

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:37 PM, John Yeary  wrote:

> I personally like v1 kopie 2 since it seems to match up with the current
> appearance. Nice work.
>
> 
>
> John Yeary
> 
> *NetBeans Dream Team*
>
> *Founder Greenville Java Users GroupJava Users Groups Community Leader*
> 
>
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
> though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who
> neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight
> that knows not victory nor defeat."
> -- Theodore Roosevelt
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
> dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Definitely not the ones with red borders - they look like an error
> message
> > box.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Christian Lenz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > @Neil here is the answer from the designer:
> > >
> > > NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a
> seperation
> > > by the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once
> > again
> > > by the bold Net.
> > > It also highlights the digital approach and networking.
> > >
> > > The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is
> > already
> > > a separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
> > > Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.
> > >
> > >
> > > For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or
> > > missing stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more,
> > different
> > > styles later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to
> > > collect all ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a
> feather,
> > > sure we can have Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It
> is
> > up
> > > to all of us to provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the
> > > same, you have the PSD or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside
> > the
> > > netbeans Folder to Change it.
> > >
> > > For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for everyone,
> I
> > > don’t like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not
> modern
> > > and the eyes are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern,
> > > better looking style for the logo, the splash Screen and the page. Some
> > > likes it, some not but in the end, there is so much Branding outside
> > there,
> > > see visual Studio over the years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t
> > get
> > > a rebranding of the page, the logo and the UI (except from the darcula
> > > 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash Screen for years. It is time to
> > have a
> > > modern DIE now and this could happen under Apache. It is often a style
> > > Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not use it, if there are
> > > alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).
> > >
> > > Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a change
> is
> > > better than no change.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > Von: Neil C Smith
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz <
> christian.l...@gmx.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> > > > Here is the link:
> > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
> > > >
> > >
> > > Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I asked
> > > before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
> > > emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
> > > Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
> > > uniform lighter weight.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > > --
> > > Neil C Smith
> > > Artist & Technologist
> > > www.neilcsmith.net
> > >
> > > Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding -
> www.praxislive.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Dmitry Avtonomov]

Or even this:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5A3BtFY2Bv2NU1qLVJDbFhYZ00

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my version:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5A3BtFY2Bv2WktLcXVKdVVqYWM
>
> Best,
> Dmitry
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:37 PM, John Yeary  wrote:
>
>> I personally like v1 kopie 2 since it seems to match up with the current
>> appearance. Nice work.
>>
>> 
>>
>> John Yeary
>> 
>> *NetBeans Dream Team*
>>
>> *Founder Greenville Java Users GroupJava Users Groups Community Leader*
>> 
>>
>>   
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
>> though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who
>> neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight
>> that knows not victory nor defeat."
>> -- Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
>> dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Definitely not the ones with red borders - they look like an error
>> message
>> > box.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Christian Lenz > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > @Neil here is the answer from the designer:
>> > >
>> > > NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a
>> seperation
>> > > by the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once
>> > again
>> > > by the bold Net.
>> > > It also highlights the digital approach and networking.
>> > >
>> > > The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is
>> > already
>> > > a separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
>> > > Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or
>> > > missing stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more,
>> > different
>> > > styles later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to
>> > > collect all ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a
>> feather,
>> > > sure we can have Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It
>> is
>> > up
>> > > to all of us to provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the
>> > > same, you have the PSD or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside
>> > the
>> > > netbeans Folder to Change it.
>> > >
>> > > For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for
>> everyone, I
>> > > don’t like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not
>> modern
>> > > and the eyes are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern,
>> > > better looking style for the logo, the splash Screen and the page.
>> Some
>> > > likes it, some not but in the end, there is so much Branding outside
>> > there,
>> > > see visual Studio over the years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t
>> > get
>> > > a rebranding of the page, the logo and the UI (except from the darcula
>> > > 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash Screen for years. It is time to
>> > have a
>> > > modern DIE now and this could happen under Apache. It is often a style
>> > > Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not use it, if there are
>> > > alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).
>> > >
>> > > Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a
>> change is
>> > > better than no change.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > > Von: Neil C Smith
>> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
>> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz <
>> christian.l...@gmx.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
>> > > > Here is the link:
>> > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Firstly, I like the clarity of some of these.  But one question I
>> asked
>> > > before and I don't think was answered - what's the thought behind
>> > > emphasising the Net in NetBeans?  Has that ever been done before?
>> > > Personally I'd prefer the emphasis just on the IDE text with NetBeans
>> > > uniform lighter weight.
>> > >
>> > > Best wishes,
>> > >
>> > > Neil
>> > > --
>> > > Neil C Smith
>> > > Artist & Technologist
>> > > www.neilcsmith.net
>> > >
>> > > Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding -
>> www.praxislive.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

RE: Missing plugin dependency: org.netbeans.api.workqueues

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2017-06-28 Tim Boudreau wrote:
> On 2017-06-27 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
> >
> > When installing contrib/docbook plugin I'm stuck with the
> > missing org.netbeans.api.workqueues dependency.
> 
> It should be sitting in contrib next to docbook.
> 
> It is - contrib/api.workqueues.  Just build that and install its nbm
> too.

Slightly confused by the package name I searched it primarily in the /main, but 
I am pretty sure I checked the contrib folder as well. I must have slept.

Thanks a lot, it works now.

Jan

RE: NetBeans as visual XML editor

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2017-06-27 Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> On 2017-06-26 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
> > On 2017-06-25 Sven Reimers wrote:
> > > On 2017-06-24 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > can you imagine using NetBeans API for building something like
> > > > https://www.oxygenxml.com/demo/DocBook_Editing_Support.html ?
> > >
> > > the source code ... enabling some support for docbook is
> > > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/docbook and
> > > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/docbook.project
> >
> > Wow this looks as a promising starting point.
> >
> 
> Btw. the main author of the module is Tim. I've just used it (modified
> it) to write my [Practical API Design](http://practical.apidesign.org) book.

Ok, I've finally compiled it and tested. I was hoping to see something like
http://www.eclipse.org/vex/ at least ;-) (kidding)

As there is no visual XML editing tool for NetBeans yet, we can unleash the 
imagination how to build a new one.

(1) web based (JavaScript + CSS, theoretically independent on NetBeans)
(2) utilizing JavaFX, especially https://github.com/TomasMikula/RichTextFX
(3) utilizing NetBeans platform
(4) ?

In (1) I am afraid of browser incompatibilities and low performance. (2) is 
promising, but not mature nor offering lexer/parsers OOTB. (3) has many 
functions already in place, but unsure if Swing based solution is sustainable 
in a long term.

Jan

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