Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi,

Proxy was tried and didn't work because of the way Oracle server is set 
up. That was about two or three weeks ago, IIRC.


As Geertjan says we don't want to fiddle with the Oracle server anymore, 
so that's why we need to upload stuff to avoid missing links.


Hope this clarifies,
Antonio

El 17/04/2019 a las 19:27, Neil C Smith escribió:

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 18:22, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:


The problem is that a lot of the pages that we were rerouting contained
within them links to images and so on, which were on netbeans.org, and thus
redirected to netbeans.apache.org, and thus broken links, references, and
images within the pages.


I know.  But the proxy suggestion shouldn't have caused this issue
AFAIK, because it doesn't use redirects.  From what I remember, that
was why it was suggested to us.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: DTDs and XSDs

[Antonio]

Hi,

Yep, too bad we can't have that backup server.

Meanwhile we're collecting those missing links here: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration


Jan, can you please add your findings to that page?

Thanks,
Antonio

El 16/04/2019 a las 21:37, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Yes, none of this is news at all. We tried rerouting, didn’t work as
expected, side effects, so it’s being rolled back now, may take a day or so
and it will be OK again.

Then, now that we know of several problematic areas such as this one, we
can investigate each case and see how to solve it.

Gj


On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 15:22, Jan Lahoda  wrote:


Hi,

(As noted by a friend of mine.) Many modules in NetBeans use DTDs or XSDs
to validate XMLs. The appropriate DTDs and XSDs are available not only
inside the IDE, but also published on the web. Presumably with the recent
change to use netbeans.apache.org instead of www.netbeans.org, (some of)
these became unavailable. This can cause  problems when doing online
validation of XMLs. That may happen e.g. in tests.

As far as I can tell, these were under the "dtd" and "ns" directories under
(www.)netbeans.org.

One thing to note is that "netbeans.org" still appears to use the old
server. So:
https://netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd

still appears to work OK, while:
https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/EditorFontsColors-1_0.dtd

does not.

I think we need to publish the DTDs and XSDs again on our pages, but it
would be awesome if we could use the old server until that is done. Would a
redirect from:
https://www.netbeans.org/dtds/
to:
https://netbeans.org/dtds/

work for now? (And the same for "https://www.netbeans.org/ns/";.) After we
(re-)publish the DTDs and XSDs, we could change the DNS for netbeans.org
as
well?

Thanks,
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Just to explain that ASF-Infra did setup the rerouting of pages from 
netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org this EU afternoon.


The rerouting worked well, the appropriate netbeans.org pages were 
rerouted to the netbeans.apache.org domain correctly.


But some other websites hosted in other subdomains 
(platform.netbeans.org, edu.netbeans.org, wiki.netbeans.org, ...) 
stopped working.


This is so because these other websites require certain resources hosted 
in netbeans.org, these include images, CSS stylesheets and JavaScript files.


As a consequence of the disruption of service in those other sites, 
ASF-Infra decided to roll-back the changes.


We're starting a list of resources here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration

An initial PR (platform.netbeans.org) for you to review is here:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/350

The plan is to decide which other sites we want to keep 
(edu.netbeans.org?) and either decide how to reroute those or see which 
resources are missing. Feel free to add resources in the confluence page 
above.


Thanks,
Antonio


El 13/04/2019 a las 20:17, Antonio escribió:

Hi all,

This is now assigned to ASF Infra in 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245


We're awaiting for instructions on how to proceed.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 11/04/2019 a las 7:34, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Reroute is fine, I think.

Gj

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 07:30, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

So do we want to

A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org";
So, for instance, people can navigate to
"https://netbeans.org/community/index.html";

or

B) Make "https://netbeans.org"; redirect to 
"https://netbeans.apache.org";?

So users are redirected to
"https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html";

After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.

Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300

El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

+1, let’s get it done.

Gj

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.

Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to

start

serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
"Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
"legacy.netbeans.org".

The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
"legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works 
with

the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
"legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.

Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe

it's

simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache

content.


If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
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Re: Press Releases for new TLPs: Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Maybe we want a redesigned web front page by then, right?

Cheers,
Antonio

El 12/04/2019 a las 16:36, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi Sally,

The graduation of Apache NetBeans to TLP is imminent. It is scheduled to be
decided by the board next week.

We have been strongly advised by our mentors to contact you now as there is
little time to draft up a proper press release.

Herewith I am doing that on behalf of Apache NetBeans.

Thanks,

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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

This is now assigned to ASF Infra in 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245


We're awaiting for instructions on how to proceed.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 11/04/2019 a las 7:34, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Reroute is fine, I think.

Gj

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 07:30, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

So do we want to

A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org";
So, for instance, people can navigate to
"https://netbeans.org/community/index.html";

or

B) Make "https://netbeans.org"; redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org";?
So users are redirected to
"https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html";

After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.

Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300

El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

+1, let’s get it done.

Gj

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.

Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to

start

serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
"Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
"legacy.netbeans.org".

The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
"legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
"legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.

Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe

it's

simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache

content.


If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.





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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

So do we want to

A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org";
So, for instance, people can navigate to 
"https://netbeans.org/community/index.html";


or

B) Make "https://netbeans.org"; redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org";?
So users are redirected to 
"https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html";


After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems 
solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require 
some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.


Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300

El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

+1, let’s get it done.

Gj

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.

Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to start
serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
"Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
"legacy.netbeans.org".

The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
"legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
"legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.

Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe it's
simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache content.

If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.





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[DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.

Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to start 
serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an 
"Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to 
"legacy.netbeans.org".


The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" -> 
"legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially 
anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with 
the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in 
"legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.


Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe it's 
simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other 
changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache content.


If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by 
doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.






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Re: Redirection of netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

We will need the involvement of both ASF Infra _and_ Oracle for this to 
happen.


As a preliminary step we've already set up https://netbeans.apache.org 
to redirect non existing pages to https://legacy.netbeans.org [1]


So, for instance, https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/previous.html now 
redirects to https://legacy.netbeans.org/kb/previous.html (which sadly 
redirects somewhere to old kenai).


The steps are as follow:

1.- ASF Infra modifies the DNS settings of netbeans.org and makes
- https://legacy.netbeans.org an alias of https://netbeans.org

2.- Oracle modifies the configuration of the virtual server(s) in 
https://netbeans.org and makes them serve _both_ https://netbeans.org 
and https://legacy.netbeans.org with the same content.


3.- ASF Infra modifies the DNS settings of netbeans.org and
- makes https://netbeans.org an alias of https://netbeans.apache.org
- makes https://legacy.netbeans.org point to 137.254.56.26

With that we should be all set, I think. Please feel free to give 
feedback/enhancements as appropriate. I'll update the JIRA by tomorrow 
evening.


Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess






El 08/04/2019 a las 11:20, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

The above sounds like a plan and I think we should simply go ahead with it.

Antonio could you update INFRA-17245 and state who should do what when (I
would do this but am about to take off into a Cloud).

Gj


On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:44, Antonio  wrote:


Hi,

I think this is perfectly possible. The plan could be:

1.- In netbeans.apache.org we add a redirection (.htaccess?) so that all
404 "not found" pages are sent to the existing Oracle hosted web server,
by IP address. Much like in the bits.netbeans.org website. This may take
one day or so.

2.- ASF Infra changes the DNS settings, making netbeans.org an alias of
netbeans.apache.org. Again this could take a few days, depending on
Infra availability.

3.- We monitor the 404 pages through the next weeks/month and see which
content is still missing in netbeans.apache.org.

4.- The existing Oracle web server is shut down after one/two months and
404 pages return a not found pages.

Thoughts on the plan?

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: We can also make infra change the DNS settings as in 2.- above,
without the redirection. That's faster, but content that has not been
migrated will return a 404-Not Found webpage.


El 08/04/2019 a las 8:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

We have this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245

The intention has been throughout the Apache NetBeans process to redirect
from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. Now that we're working on
graduating, maybe the time for actually doing this has come?

This point has come up today in the DISCUSS thread re becoming a top

level

Apache project, hence maybe the moment is right to actually do this now.
See:



https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/648834cdb10ce55aff2c6c8dd3c32454a74711c6289f385e456b74d8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E


Thoughts? If not now when.

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Re: Redirection of netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

We are now redirecting non-existing pages in netbeans.apache.org to the 
old website (137.254.56.26) by using a custom htaccess file [1]


For example, the following URL:

https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/previous.html

does not exist in netbeans.apache.org, so it's redirected to the legacy 
Oracle web server (137.254.56.26),


https://137.254.56.26/kb/previous.html

And that returns a 404, because "netbeans.org" is a virtual host in 
137.254.56.26, so it needs the "Host: netbeans.org" header.


For this to work:

a) we'll need Oracle setting up the old netbeans.org content directly on 
the IP above.


or b) we'll need to correctly set up the "Host: netbeans.org" header in 
the .htaccess file (it seems this is not working now). I don't now if 
this is possible.


Is there anybody more experienced with the Apache web server able to 
provide an alternate solution?


Otherwise we'll just proceed with changing the DNS of netbeans.org to 
point to netbeans.apache.org, and we'll forget about the old server.


Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
We don't own control of netbeans.apache.org, so we have to use this 
.htaccess file:


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess


El 08/04/2019 a las 11:20, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

The above sounds like a plan and I think we should simply go ahead with it.

Antonio could you update INFRA-17245 and state who should do what when (I
would do this but am about to take off into a Cloud).

Gj


On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:44, Antonio  wrote:


Hi,

I think this is perfectly possible. The plan could be:

1.- In netbeans.apache.org we add a redirection (.htaccess?) so that all
404 "not found" pages are sent to the existing Oracle hosted web server,
by IP address. Much like in the bits.netbeans.org website. This may take
one day or so.

2.- ASF Infra changes the DNS settings, making netbeans.org an alias of
netbeans.apache.org. Again this could take a few days, depending on
Infra availability.

3.- We monitor the 404 pages through the next weeks/month and see which
content is still missing in netbeans.apache.org.

4.- The existing Oracle web server is shut down after one/two months and
404 pages return a not found pages.

Thoughts on the plan?

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: We can also make infra change the DNS settings as in 2.- above,
without the redirection. That's faster, but content that has not been
migrated will return a 404-Not Found webpage.


El 08/04/2019 a las 8:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

We have this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245

The intention has been throughout the Apache NetBeans process to redirect
from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. Now that we're working on
graduating, maybe the time for actually doing this has come?

This point has come up today in the DISCUSS thread re becoming a top

level

Apache project, hence maybe the moment is right to actually do this now.
See:



https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/648834cdb10ce55aff2c6c8dd3c32454a74711c6289f385e456b74d8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E


Thoughts? If not now when.

Gj



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Re: Redirection of netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi,

I still have to investigate how to do 1.- below (this is different to 
what we've done for bits.netbeans.org). Will try to update the JIRA in 
the EU evening today.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 08/04/2019 a las 11:20, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

The above sounds like a plan and I think we should simply go ahead with it.

Antonio could you update INFRA-17245 and state who should do what when (I
would do this but am about to take off into a Cloud).

Gj


On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:44, Antonio  wrote:


Hi,

I think this is perfectly possible. The plan could be:

1.- In netbeans.apache.org we add a redirection (.htaccess?) so that all
404 "not found" pages are sent to the existing Oracle hosted web server,
by IP address. Much like in the bits.netbeans.org website. This may take
one day or so.

2.- ASF Infra changes the DNS settings, making netbeans.org an alias of
netbeans.apache.org. Again this could take a few days, depending on
Infra availability.

3.- We monitor the 404 pages through the next weeks/month and see which
content is still missing in netbeans.apache.org.

4.- The existing Oracle web server is shut down after one/two months and
404 pages return a not found pages.

Thoughts on the plan?

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: We can also make infra change the DNS settings as in 2.- above,
without the redirection. That's faster, but content that has not been
migrated will return a 404-Not Found webpage.


El 08/04/2019 a las 8:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

We have this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245

The intention has been throughout the Apache NetBeans process to redirect
from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. Now that we're working on
graduating, maybe the time for actually doing this has come?

This point has come up today in the DISCUSS thread re becoming a top

level

Apache project, hence maybe the moment is right to actually do this now.
See:



https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/648834cdb10ce55aff2c6c8dd3c32454a74711c6289f385e456b74d8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E


Thoughts? If not now when.

Gj



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Re: Redirection of netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

[Antonio]

Hi,

I think this is perfectly possible. The plan could be:

1.- In netbeans.apache.org we add a redirection (.htaccess?) so that all 
404 "not found" pages are sent to the existing Oracle hosted web server, 
by IP address. Much like in the bits.netbeans.org website. This may take 
one day or so.


2.- ASF Infra changes the DNS settings, making netbeans.org an alias of 
netbeans.apache.org. Again this could take a few days, depending on 
Infra availability.


3.- We monitor the 404 pages through the next weeks/month and see which 
content is still missing in netbeans.apache.org.


4.- The existing Oracle web server is shut down after one/two months and 
404 pages return a not found pages.


Thoughts on the plan?

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: We can also make infra change the DNS settings as in 2.- above, 
without the redirection. That's faster, but content that has not been 
migrated will return a 404-Not Found webpage.



El 08/04/2019 a las 8:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

We have this issue:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245

The intention has been throughout the Apache NetBeans process to redirect
from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. Now that we're working on
graduating, maybe the time for actually doing this has come?

This point has come up today in the DISCUSS thread re becoming a top level
Apache project, hence maybe the moment is right to actually do this now.
See:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/648834cdb10ce55aff2c6c8dd3c32454a74711c6289f385e456b74d8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Thoughts? If not now when.

Gj



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Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

[Antonio]

El 07/04/2019 a las 23:32, Wade Chandler escribió:


I discourage such a merge where icons from various modules wind up inside a 
single module. The module code itself still has to reference these things, and 
as such now must touch more than one module just to add an image. Why would I 
want N graphic files if I am using the platform but not the modules which 
require the N graphics? I call that bloat. I think if we are having an issue 
finding icons, and need a solution, we should solve that versus a giant lump; 
it could be a module manifest marker or something similar.



Well, this can made optional.

Many icons in NetBeans are retrieved using a simple String that is sent 
to ImageUtilities [1] in "openide.util.ui". This module in turn depends 
on "openide.util".


We could define an "IconProvider" service interface API, responsible for 
finding icons by name.


And then change ImageUtilities to lookup one (or more) IconProvider SPIs 
at runtime. When an icon is requested to ImageUtilities (by name) then 
let's send that request to all SPIs, and see if any returns a proper icon.


So we end up with a set of pluggable "IconProvider"'s that people can 
extend to replace existing icons gradually, and modules won't have to be 
modified/refactored.


Cheers,
Antonio


[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/platform/openide.util.ui/src/org/openide/util/ImageUtilities.java


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Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

[Antonio]

Great pieces of advice here (and in another threads).

A summary with some more ideas:

== Color Scheme:

If we're to redesign icons we may want to define a color scheme first.

As Glenn points out the color scheme should play nice with color blind 
users and also play nice with the different LaFs we use frequently 
(including dark ones such as Darcula).


== Precompiling

As Tim points out we don't want to waste CPU/GPU time rendering 
gradients for icons at runtime.


We could define some "standard" sizes for icons and precompile them to 
these sizes. Very much like native mobile apps do for Android an iOS. In 
iOS, for example, they have @1x, @2x, @3x suffixes for different icons 
sizes.


That, of course will require a project/repository of its own.

== Standardizing

If we're to precompile icons we may also want to standardize them 
somehow. We could separate icons by cluster (in the repository above), 
and create a cluster-specific module responsible for returning icons (of 
appropriate size depending on DPI) for all modules in that cluster.


The objective being making all "folder" icons look similar. We now have 
blue folders and yellow folders all around.


== Generating SVG from PNG

See Tim's response in another thread [1]. I think Emilian set up a 
website in 2017 to do this [2].


I don't think automatic conversion is worth the effort: we'll end up 
having to fine-tune the results by hand, as Emilian tried to do back in 
2017.


Also note that Adobe Illustrator seems to have a way to do this: 
https://www.lifewire.com/use-image-trace-in-adobe-illustrator-cc-2017-4125254


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201904.mbox/%3cCA+qecRNnE=L49v5t46q_LVc=rpTqJD3U7zt4-0DAroG=x6h...@mail.gmail.com%3e

[2]
https://jaxenter.com/netbeans/netbeans-retina

El 06/04/2019 a las 19:50, Tim Boudreau escribió:

I did most of the icons in 1999 (a few of them still exist in core as tree
icons for nodes that are not typically shown anymore); in 2000 they were
taken over by Sun's Human Interface Engineering team, and everything was
converted to the (awful) "flush 3d" metal look and feel look. Circa 2004 we
got out from under the tyrrany of metal look and feel, and they were
redesigned again by a guy whose name I can't remember, but could probably
dig up - that redesign established the shapes still in use for things like
classes, fields and methods. Since then there was one reworking of the
icons that made them more cartoonish (I remember Wade calling it "NetBeans
for babies").

I think in the long run, switching to vector icons is smart. That said, I
would not run with SVG without precompiling it into code that drives a
Graphics2D and either renders and caches images, or deals with performance
and memory allocation issues around GradientPaint and friends in the JDK
(both allocate large rasters on every paint, and vertical and horizontal
and radial gradients can be cached and reused instead - AND the pixel
pushing approach of those has a serious impedance mismatch with modern
graphics pipelines - it happens that just this week I benchmarked cached
gradient BufferedImages vs GradientPaint and RadialGradientPaint with as
much raster caching as you could do there - the result was blitting
BufferedImages was 10x faster, and 40x faster if you ran a full GC between
benchmark loops, meaning that performance with Paint objects is also much
less predictable). One of the rationales for JavaFX's creation was to have
a graphics toolkit that operated with the grain of how modern graphics
cards work, rather than 1990s xterms did things.

-Tim

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 7:09 PM Eirik Bakke  wrote:


There are over 3000 bitmap icon images in the NetBeans codebase. Probably
at least several hundred of these are frequently seen by everyday NetBeans
users. The page below shows all the unique "gif" or "png" files that
existed in the NetBeans mercurial repo prior to the Apache transition:

htps://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/icons.html

THE QUESTION: Does anyone know who actually designed and drew these icons?

I assume some were cobbled together from various sources, but on the other
hand, many of the frequently visible ones (e.g. the ones in the toolbars)
seem to follow a quite consistent visual style.

(This question relates to the effort of making NetBeans look better on
HiDPI/Retina screens; see separate email thread.)

-- Eirik

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Re: Splash Screen Lettering Size

[Antonio]

Hi Kenneth,

That's https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-378?src=confmacro 
, I think.


See also Eirik's HiDPI effort here 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/HiDPI+%28Retina%29+improvements


Cheers,
Antonio

El 06/04/2019 a las 22:26, Kenneth Fogel escribió:

I'm certain I'm not the first person to raise this issue but the opening splash 
screen really needs, in my opinion, one significant change. Its not an error 
but a matter of graphic design. The text on this screen needs to be 4 times 
larger. Not 2x, at least 3x and probably 4x. From a marketing point of view I 
believe the brand name must stand out. Right now it appears as a footnote.

Ken Fogel


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Re: plugins.netbeans.org / netbeans.org

[Antonio]

Thanks for a fast reply. Some comments/ideas inlined below.

El 05/04/2019 a las 20:31, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Here's the rough proposal:

1. Move all the plugins to Maven Central. Blockers: we don't know how to do
that, if someone can advise, that will help.


A previous step would be defining what "all the plugins" means. :-)

I haven't seen the plugins.netbeans.org app yet (will do that soon), but 
I imagine that it has a database or something we can use to find out 
what "all the plugins" exactly means. Is that database available?


Also I imagine we can use Maven Central _and_ github. Maybe contributors 
want to host their released binaries in github, and we could use that to 
download the binaries.


Examples of NBM files hosted in github:

https://github.com/dcaoyuan/nbscala/releases (no NBMs)
https://github.com/nbphpcouncil/nb-ci-plugin/releases
https://github.com/nbphpcouncil/nb-laravel-plugin/releases
https://github.com/nbphpcouncil/nb-yii2-plugin/releases

(D'oh, I found a kotlin plugin under the APLv2!)
https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/releases




2. Refactor the plugins.netbeans.org application so that (1) NBM files
cannot be uploaded anymore and (2) instead of uploading, references need to
be registered to the location of the NBM on Maven Central. Blockers: this
is being investigated at the moment, timelines not known yet. This is
doable because the plugins.netbeans.org application has been donated to
Apache as part of the 3rd donation.


Yep. If we allow nbms hosted as "github releases" we could write some 
instructions for contributors to tell us about their plugins.


Maybe they can upload a XML/JSON file to plugins.netbeans.org with 
details about licenses/binary/source urls, repositories, contact email, etc.


Regarding the plugins.netbeans.org application, we should upload the 
code to a repo of ours. Or do we already have a repository in place?




3. Deploy the plugins.netbeans.org application from the Apache NetBeans VM.
There should be no problem with that since we'll not be distributing the
NBMs from Apache (which would have been a problem since Apache distributes
source code only) but only pages or references to Maven Central.


Agreed. I think Apache OpenOffice does something similar.



4. Enable the Plugin Manager inside Apache NetBeans to install NBM files
directly from Maven Central, based on the references retrieved via the
Update Center from the plugins.netbeans.org application running on the
Apache NetBeans VM.


I imagine we can easily assemble a catalog file from those XML/JSON 
files that contributors send us.




5. Continue using the plugins.netbeans.org URL, except that this will now
be running at Apache and pointing to the plugins.netbeans.org application
running on the Apache NetBeans VM.

So, the above would mean that nothing is running on Oracle servers anymore,
all NBMs that we care about are on Maven Central (and source code could
mostly be on GitHub, except where plugin owners don't want their source
code exposed, in which case they'd have it in their local proprietary
backends), and we have the plugins.netbeans.org application refactored and
simply showing Maven co-ordinated to the plugins on Maven Central.

How does that sound?


That sounds like a plan :-)

A long plan, I mean. Maybe a good target is NetBeans 13?



Gj

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:21 PM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

After the 11.0 release announcement, where we migrated most of
bits.netbeans.org, shall we tackle the plugins.netbeans.org website and
infrastructure for 12.0? Or is it too early? Also, what's missing in
netbeans.apache.org that still exists in netbeans.org and we want to keep?

I can't remember when the infra @ Oracle for plugins.netbeans.org is
going to be shutdown, but the sooner we start thinking on hosting the
plugins, the better. This is something that is going to take us long, I
think.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Antonio

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plugins.netbeans.org / netbeans.org

[Antonio]

Hi all,

After the 11.0 release announcement, where we migrated most of 
bits.netbeans.org, shall we tackle the plugins.netbeans.org website and 
infrastructure for 12.0? Or is it too early? Also, what's missing in 
netbeans.apache.org that still exists in netbeans.org and we want to keep?


I can't remember when the infra @ Oracle for plugins.netbeans.org is 
going to be shutdown, but the sooner we start thinking on hosting the 
plugins, the better. This is something that is going to take us long, I 
think.


Thoughts?

Thanks,
Antonio

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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Thanks, Laszlo, for this great work.

Regarding the release process [1], I think we could change steps 24 and 25.

What we have now:

24. Update the WebSite for the new Release
25. Send out release announcement-s

The proposal:

24. Prepare a PR with the website for the new Release and some 
screenshots for Twitter.
25. Publish the website, send out release announcements to mailing lists 
and post to Twitter/elsewhere.


In step 25 we could coordinate to send announcements to mailing lists, 
update the website and make some noise in Twitter and elsewhere. This is 
something that involves many people, and we could coordinate in advance. 
For instance, by sending an email to the mailing lists 24h in advance 
(something like "we'll announce the new release on monday at 12:00 UTC").


Kind regards and thanks again,
Antonio


[1]
I love this process as documented at:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052


El 5/4/19 a las 13:22, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache 
NetBeans 11.0!


Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code, 
documentation, advice, or shared opinion!


This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or 
due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were 
over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.


As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to 
staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts 
from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble 
for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as 
well.


I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually 
matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1 
quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of 
our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor 
non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.


Some Numbers:

In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement, 
13 tasks


The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than 
10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release 
branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is 
not bad, but we have that limit.


I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the 
next Release Manager easier.


This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their 
work and support!


Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0

P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as 
always, welcome!



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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0 released

[Antonio]

Should be ready.

There was a problem pushing to asf-site so I triggered another build.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 04/04/2019 a las 22:23, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
Well, I do not know how long the site would take to be updated 
(hopefully soon).
This announcement is just sent to this dev list first. When the site is 
up with the 11.0 changes, I'm going to post similar announcements to the 
general incubator and the other announcement lists.


On 4/4/19 1:16 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache
NetBeans (incubating) 11.0.

Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0 constitutes all cluster in the 
Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform 
(i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the 
modules that provide the Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy 
features of Apache NetBeans.


In short, Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0 is a full IDE for Java SE, 
Java EE, PHP and JavaScript development with some Groovy language 
support.


Read more on our download page:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html

New & Noteworthy features of the 11.0 Release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0+New+and+Noteworthy 



See the below for the donation status of features that have not been
donated or included in Apache builds yet, i.e., are not part of Apache
NetBeans (incubating) 11.0, e.g., features for working with C/C++, 
JavaCard,

and more:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Work is being done on bringing netbeans.org to Apache. In the
meantime, refer to the below for all details related to Apache
NetBeans:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS

Laszlo Kishalmi
on behalf of Apache NetBeans PPMC


Apache NetBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator.
Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further
review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision
making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other
successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a
reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does
indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.


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Re: Maven repository is down

[Antonio Vieiro]

That’s a problem with the legacy Oracle server (the bits.netbeans.org
redirects there). There’s nothing we can do from within the ASF Infra...


El El mié, 3 abr 2019 a las 13:49, Jaroslav Tulach <
jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Hi.
> My build
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-html4j-linux/71/console
>
> Failed to collect dependencies at
> org.netbeans.api:org-openide-util-lookup:jar:RELEASE82:
> Failed to read artifact descriptor for
> org.netbeans.api:org-openide-util-lookup:jar:RELEASE82:
> Could not transfer artifact
> org.netbeans.api:org-openide-util-lookup:pom:RELEASE82 from/to
> netbeans (http://bits.netbeans.org/maven2/): Failed to transfer
> file:
>
> http://bits.netbeans.org/maven2/org/netbeans/api/org-openide-util-lookup/RELEASE82/org-openide-util-lookup-RELEASE82.pom
> .
>
> Return code is: 502 , ReasonPhrase:Bad Gateway. -> [Help 1]
>
> Looks like the Maven repository is down. Can we fix that? Many people rely
> on that repository to be available, for example:
> https://twitter.com/JaroslavTulach/status/1113313978258796544
>
> -jt
>

Google's Season of Docs now accepting organization applications

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Google's "Season of Docs" is now accepting organization applications.

"Season of Docs was created to bring together technical writers and open 
source projects to foster collaboration and improve documentation in the 
open source space."


More info in blog post [1] and specific site[2].

I was wondering if we could benefit of this somehow? From the "Project 
Ideas" [3] page:


"Refactor the open source project's existing documentation to provide an 
improved user experience or a more accessible information architecture."


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://opensource.googleblog.com/2019/04/season-of-docs-org-apps.html

[2]
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/

[3]
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas

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Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

[Antonio]

Hi all,

What about changing:

"RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked 
with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open 
development and increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; "


To

"RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked 
to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache 
NetBeans Project subject to the Bylaws of the Foundation; "?


I'm somewhat concerned about asking our future Vicepresident to "serve 
... subject to ... the Bylaws of the Foundation" and not to ask the PMC 
to do the same.


That looks unfair to me! :-D

Cheers,
Antonio



El 2/4/19 a las 16:54, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

the resolution looks mostly good to me, thanks!

With one paragraph to remove:

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

...RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further...


We don't ask for bylaws anymore, projects are welcome to create
community guidelines but that's not a requirement, they can also just
lean on the standard ASF guidelines.

-Bertrand

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Re: Let's clean up branches of incubator-netbeans-website repo

[Antonio]

Hi Junichi,

I deleted three old branches of mine.

AFAIK the ones we want to keep are "master" and "asf-site" (the ones 
holding the generated HTML files). Any others are probably already 
merged, so live in a clone repo, so we don't need them.


I suggest doing a cleanup _after_ 11.0 is released.

Cheers,
Antonio



El 27/03/2019 a las 22:48, Junichi Yamamoto escribió:

Hi Geertjan, Antonio, Neil, and Wade,

Could you please have a look at branches once when you have time?
(There are 214 branches.)

Thanks,
Junichi


On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:43 AM Junichi Yamamoto  wrote:


Hi,

There are a lot of branches have been already merged in the repo[1].
However, I'm not sure whether I can delete them.
So, could you please confirm your branches here[2], then delete
unnecessary branches?

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/branches/all
[2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/branches/yours

Thanks,
Junichi


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Re: [MENTORS] Apache NetBeans maven artifacts groupId and process

[Antonio]

+1000 to this mail.

We've been struggling to make transition as smooth as possible for users 
for some years now. Let's continue doing so.


Thanks,
Antonio

El 25/3/19 a las 5:55, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:

Thanks Ate. It is great to hear that using org.netbeans.* groupId is
legally OK and that it is not against any Apache policy.

[APIs are like stars](http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Star) - they are with
us "forever" (or at least until their users/observers are alive). It is the
goal of the maintainers to make sure the APIs evolve well. Code changes
driven by marketing/branding purposes are the most harmful and useless
changes to any API. Nobody wants to repeat the com.sun.swing -> javax.swing
rename disaster.

It is important, especially right now, to make the migration of NetBeans
Platform 8.2 to Apache NetBeans Platform as smooth as possible. We don't
want people to ask questions like: "Should I upgrade or should I rather
stay with pre-Apache version?" Keeping the artifact co-ordinates is
essential part of making the migration of Maven based projects on top of
NetBeans Platform "no brainer".

Many Apache projects are [kept in historical co-ordinates](
https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/public/) - freemarker, log4j,
etc. It is not fair to not allow NetBeans to do the same. Especially when
backward compatibility has always been a major focus of everything we did
in the NetBeans Platform.

Dear mentors, please guide me on my quest to keep the Maven co-ordinates
unchanged. Thanks you.
Jaroslav Tulach
NetBeans Founder
NetBeans Platform Architect

po 25. 3. 2019 v 0:57 odesílatel Ate Douma  napsal:




On 19/03/2019 18.34, Eric Barboni wrote:

Hi,

Prior to any process for voting/releasing the Apache Netbeans maven
artefacts  would be sure on one point. We may use groupId
org.apache.netbeans or org.netbeans as we have the grant to do so.

   It would be easier and more backward compatible to use org.netbeans as
groupId for Apache NetBeans artefacts. Can we use that groupId forever

even

if we became a TLP. Or was it only for transitioning purpose.


I think you must ask this on tradema...@apache.org.

The Apache Branding Policy says [1] that podlings may request to keep
non apache domain names (e.g. netbeans.org) for *limited uses* once the
podling graduates to TLP.

That primarily concerns website and domain usages, but the Policy isn't
really clear/explicit in how far the "limited uses" is, or may be
extended to 'forever' usage when such a domain has been transferred to
the ASF. My gut feeling is: only in exceptional cases, as explained at
[1] for openoffice.org and groovy-lang.org.

In how far this extends (or not) to the usage of non apache Maven
GroupId, temporarily or 'forever', is really not addressed nor answered
there, nor anywhere else I searched for it.
Legally, I think it should be fine, because netbeans.org has been
transferred to the ASF. But it might still not be desired or allowed
from ASF (branding) Policy POV.
So again, I advise to explicitly ask this to be answered and agreed upon
first by the Apache Trademark (and Branding) Committee.

Possibly other mentors may have more experience/knowledge in this area
how other podlings dealt with this, and can chime in as well?

Note: I understand the wish to retain the usage of org.netbeans as Maven
GroupId for backwards compatibility. But even if this will be allowed,
is it really needed to stick to using it 'forever'?
If not yet now, IMO it is advisable to at least discuss and plan to
migrate and transition to using org.apache.netbeans for future
Maven artifacts / NetBeans releases.
If not, do you want to use org.netbeans also for new Maven artifacts?
Otherwise you'll end up with an even more 'messy' Maven/Nexus artifact
management, using 2 different (base) GroupIds...


[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#nonapache







One second question is concerning process to vote/release the

artefacts.

The artefacts are built using the same tag as the official release of

Apache

NetBeans (incubating)   for example for version 10 its tag is 10.0-vc5.

   The only element to vote on would be a staged repository with a bunch

of

artefacts at
(

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1011/
)

as the source are already released (signed by two different people).

Will that work the Apache way ? How to make it comply.



 Best Regards

Eric



PS:

   (The donated mavenutilities plugins will be at org.apache.netbeans

because

they are new artefacts as the previous release netbeans-parent)








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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

[Antonio]

+1

Great work, everybody!

Built from sources with OpenJDK 8 on Linux, did some basic tests, opened 
[1], checked that only three jar files are included as stated, 
signatures look good.


I've run "ant rat" and a "build/rat/not cluster.xml" file was created 
saying that 679 files have unapproved licenses. These files are 
generated with schema2beans, so I assume this is ok, right? Shall this 
be clarified before submitting a final vote or is this ok?


Un abrazo,
Antonio


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2306

El 21/3/19 a las 8:41, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

This is our 4th voting candidate for the 11.0 release of Apache 
NetBeans. This time everything went through my smoke tests, so let's 
vote on it.


Apache NetBeans 11.0 (incubating) constitutes all clusters in the Apache 
NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., 
the underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that 
provide the Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy features of 
Apache NetBeans.


In short, Apache NetBeans 11.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, 
Java EE, PHP and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.


Build artifacts available here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/ 



Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and 
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which 
are the same as these:


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release110/README.md

We are voting on:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-source.zip 



SHA512:
e1ffe7873142bf6718f4365480501bec81126dc8e90884ea74f0cbc5d86a034ae3182515c4b78ccb250786bf84774d600f0b9451a6c518f773ca611cf82e4197  
./incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-source.zip


KEYS file:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 11.0-vc4 :
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/11.0-vc4

Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the 
rat-exclusions.txt file:


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release110/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt 



Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/404/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt 



Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes 
(unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):


https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip 



SHA512:
9d7fbe5c6bcf781fc1d3f8e2aee62db0435dd716c60dc73ef900ee2817473cc5b0a8e12c1453b7e57aedcece70cff778673a8cf563c1fa4eea816d9636955d4b  
./incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip


Release specific wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0

How (and what) to try out the release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files,
    save the: 
platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar 
and
    enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar and 
enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar which 
are only jars by their name

3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file
4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the 
build process.



This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1 
as usual. This vote round would determine if we carry on this release to 
the next IPMC vote . Binding votes are going to be carried over.


Thank you for the hard work!

Laszlo Kishalmi
Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0




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Re: NewAndNoteworthy Page for Apache NetBeans 11.0 is Needed

[Antonio]

Hi,

I'll try to create a PR with features for the website (as little time 
permits ;-)).


Will keep you posted.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 17/03/2019 a las 10:49, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0+New+and+Noteworthy

Gj

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:35 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Dear Community,

As we are turning into the finish line with our upcoming release, could
someone step up and create the New and Noteworthy page for Apache
NetBeans 11.0 on our Wiki? AFAIK it serves as a base for our Features
page on the web.

Thank you!


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Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project

[Antonio Vieiro]

+1

Congratulations, everybody!!

El El lun, 11 mar 2019 a las 11:48, Geertjan Wielenga
 escribió:

> Hi all,
>
> After a discussion amongst the Apache NetBeans community on the dev mailing
> list[1], voting on a PMC chair[2], checking the podling status page[3], and
> working through the maturity model[4], I would like to call a vote for
> Apache NetBeans graduating to a top level project.
>
> Apache NetBeans entered the incubator on October 1, 2016. Since then, we
> have announced 2 releases, nominated several new committers, participated
> in conferences and events, have 99 contributors with 2,423 commits, and --
> most importantly -- have grown and diversified our community. Apache
> NetBeans is a healthy project that is already acting like an Apache top
> level project, so we should take the next step.
>
> If we agree that we should graduate to a top level project, the next step
> will be to draft a Resolution for the PPMC and IPMC to vote upon.
>
> Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache NetBeans should
> graduate to a Top Level Project by responding with one of the following:
>
> [ ] +1 Apache NetBeans should graduate.
> [ ] +0 No opinion
> [ ] -1 Apache NetBeans should not graduate (please provide the reason)
>
> The VOTE is open for a minimum of 72 hours. Per Apache guidelines[5] I will
> also be notifying the incubator mailing list that a community vote is under
> way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC
>
> [1]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8724c66eb22c1ceea81160968cb5ae68fdc2180f46fbbfaab16b4ce9@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> [2]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> [3] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans
> [4]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> [5]
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
>

Re: [updates] too many requests to /dyn/closer.lua

[Antonio]

I'd suggest waiting a while to see if this happens again or it was just 
a student at an university trying to do a poor man DoS attack.


Let's wait and see if this happens again. Then let's see if this is a 
problem of ours.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 04/03/2019 a las 15:44, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2204 - if we got
that right, it looks like in certain cases the NetBeans updates system
might be causing out-of-bounds usage of apache.org infrastructure.

-Bertrand

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Re: Team in India

[Antonio]

El 04/03/2019 a las 16:48, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:


FWIW, putting full-time and casual contributors on an equal footing
(given similar merit) is a key aspect of Apache projects.



+1. This is a very important remark.

Team in India is a key contributor to NetBeans, IMHO.

I'd like to thank them all. Also if anybody from the Indian Team happens 
to visit Spain please let me know.


Cheers,
Antonio


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Re: Current appearance of tutorial pages

[Antonio]

The SCSS (for this case) is at [1].

Hack away, do the best you can, send us screenshots, have fun, be 
proactive, feel free to improve things, don't break too much.


Thanks,
Antonio

[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/332/commits/f90073acb608ffdda407a24a9f51a49b89a62775


El 02/03/2019 a las 10:33, Mr_Krava escribió:

  We need to keep focus that this all forms the new Netbeans brand identity.

Needs a border around your proposed gray keyboard shortcut Antonio. Fine line 
border. There is already a lot of gray content that will otherwise look the 
same as it. We will need to style for menu:[] as well. I can put an example in 
the guide lines and we can work it from there.

Where is the style guide? (My apologies if one exits - point me to it)
If there isn't one, then the tutorials will always be one step away from 
possibly becoming messy and painful to read.

As an example...
Think like this, you have bullets.The dotted bullets are unordered lists, and 
should be used as such. Not a process of steps. Using letters as bullets is for 
options, and numbers are for ordered lists.
In terms of the 3rd person its not "we" its "you". Things like that.
CheersBrianCUNKA









 On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 8:03:23 am AEDT, Antonio  
wrote:
  
  What about https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/332 ?


Cheers,
Antonio

El 01/03/2019 a las 21:04, Antonio escribió:

Of course.

So smaller and lighter? Any proposal? The way it was before perhaps?

Thanks,
Antonio

El 01/03/2019 a las 13:00, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Antonio, what do you think, slightly less large?

Gj

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:54, Jeremy Cavanagh 
wrote:


Just want to say that the new appearance of the revised tutorial pages
now look great, complements to 'cunka' for this.

However, I do have one request that the size of the keyboard graphics
need to be reduced, if possible. At the moment they are visually rather
overpowering.

Regards

Jeremy

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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

Some comments inlined below

El 27/02/2019 a las 9:08, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing Apache
NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am


That hypothetic "someone" will then show little knowledge about how the 
ASF works (we vote here!), and about what Geertjan has been doing for 
NetBeans during the last 10-15 years?



not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped NetBeans”.

So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.


I think we should focus on your willingness to be a PMC chair instead.

You've been pushing the project for a long time now, and I think we all 
will understand you may be wanting to step down and take a rest for a 
while. :-)


If you feel you have the strength to keep on bearing with us for some 
more time then I think we all will be honored if you keep on pushing the 
project forward.


Thank you, Geerjan,
Antonio



 From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now, and
in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.

Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
level project can be completed.

Gj


On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:


As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.

There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a new
name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board will
accept or reject).

Eric

-Message d'origine-
De : Josh Juneau 
Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
À : dev 
Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

+1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan
being the first chair for year one.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:


On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:

I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.


I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
the responsibilities can be found here:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season
came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Re: Current appearance of tutorial pages

[Antonio]

What about https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/332 ?

Cheers,
Antonio

El 01/03/2019 a las 21:04, Antonio escribió:

Of course.

So smaller and lighter? Any proposal? The way it was before perhaps?

Thanks,
Antonio

El 01/03/2019 a las 13:00, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Antonio, what do you think, slightly less large?

Gj

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:54, Jeremy Cavanagh 
wrote:


Just want to say that the new appearance of the revised tutorial pages
now look great, complements to 'cunka' for this.

However, I do have one request that the size of the keyboard graphics
need to be reduced, if possible. At the moment they are visually rather
overpowering.

Regards

Jeremy

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Re: Current appearance of tutorial pages

[Antonio]

Of course.

So smaller and lighter? Any proposal? The way it was before perhaps?

Thanks,
Antonio

El 01/03/2019 a las 13:00, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Antonio, what do you think, slightly less large?

Gj

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:54, Jeremy Cavanagh 
wrote:


Just want to say that the new appearance of the revised tutorial pages
now look great, complements to 'cunka' for this.

However, I do have one request that the size of the keyboard graphics
need to be reduced, if possible. At the moment they are visually rather
overpowering.

Regards

Jeremy

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

+1

El 01/03/2019 a las 15:39, Glenn Holmer escribió:

On 3/1/19 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.


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Re: Netbeans documentation

[Antonio]

Yep.

Asciidoc should not set the width of the table, i.e. the following:

[grid="none",frame="none",width="75%",cols="1,4"]
|===
|*Windows*(TM)/*Linux* |`Alt-Shift-F`
|*macOS*(TM) |`Ctrl-Shift-F`
|===

Should be:

[cols="1,4"]
|===
|*Windows*(TM)/*Linux* |`Alt-Shift-F`
|*macOS*(TM) |`Ctrl-Shift-F`
|===

The "grid", "frame" and "width" are all view-specific details, that are 
best handled centrally in the CSS styling, not in each asciidoc document.


Asciidoc should be just about content.

One of the objectives of having all stuff in asciidoc is that we can 
render to both the HTML website _and_ to alternate formats. In the 
future we may want to render to PDF or ePUB, for instance.


Who knows, maybe someone builds a plugin that renders asciidoc to JavaFX 
[1], so we can replace JavaHelp with tutorials.


Please file a PR against that to solve it, or a JIRA instead if you prefer.

Thanks,
Antonio

[1]
https://asciidocfx.com/

El 26/02/2019 a las 10:05, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Great, indeed, yes -- and that webpage indeed has the problem you describe,
feel free to provide a pull request for that.

Any help and assistance you can provide, indeed, the :experimental setting
if it helps would be great.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:58 AM Mr_Krava 
wrote:


Greetings,
I'm answering Geertjan's call for documentation assistance.I've used
Asciidoctor quite a bit.

Okay...firstly my apologies if this has been discussed and dismissed
already
If you put the :experimental: setting in Asciidoc/Asciidoctor, you will be
able to use the menu and button commands to generate handy graphics. Style
sheet will need edits to accomplish this as well. I can help doing this.
https://asciidoctor.org/docs/asciidoc-syntax-quick-reference/#ui-macros
The webpage referenced here :
https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/editor-codereference.html breaks
in terms of the CSS. There is large whitespace caused by the
Windows/Mac/Linux table been 75%. (Screen shot here)
https://i.postimg.cc/fWV9N6Gb/Untitled2.png
You can see the results here: (Checked in FireFox/Chrome)

https://responsivedesignchecker.com/checker.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnetbeans.apache.org%2Fkb%2Fdocs%2Fjava%2Feditor-codereference.html&width=1800&height=700



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Re: How to get involved with Apache NetBeans -- without Java knowledge..?

[Antonio]

Great work! Thanks, Geertjan!

I've added it to the tutorial contribution guidelines at

http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/contributing.html

Cheers,
Antonio

El 23/02/2019 a las 15:45, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

https://youtu.be/0ovc902VWMQ

Take a look and we need you here:

https://netbeans.apache.org/help/index.html

Consider donating an hour or two this week (or this weekend) on this -- we
need many new pull requests here, how to create them is described in the
YouTube link above:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pulls

Thanks,

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans (incubating) parent pom 1

[Antonio Vieiro]

+1

Thank you very much, Eric!

El vie., 22 feb. 2019 15:42, Eric Barboni  escribió:

> Dear members of the Apache NetBeans community.
>
>
>
> In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) maven Artefacts
> (RELEASE100 and RELEASE090)  as well as Apache NetBeans (incubating)
> mavenutilities (incubating)  such as nbm-maven-plugin:
>
>
>
> I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) maven
> parent
> version 1.
>
>
>
> This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like mailing
> list, licence.
>
>
>
>
>
> The release is staged at the following place:
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbean
> s-mavenutils/apache-netbeans-parent-1/
> 
>
> incubating-apache-netbeans-parent-1-source-release.zip
>
>
>
> sha512 is
>
> incubating-apache-netbeans-parent-1-source-release.zip.sha512
>
>
> dfdf51ecaea0bc4481effd0184c52ebb371ea190b073d8ea147f4bb19b19210c89909c06a76e
> 8da672457b98e4f3bafac58a984ca090685e19f420c738437235
>
>
>
> tag on scm https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-mavenutils is
>
> org-apache-netbeans-parent-1-vc1
>
>
>
>
>
> Staged maven repository exists at the following url:
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1009/
>
>
>
>
>
> Vote open for at least 72 hours.
>
>
>
> [ ] +1
>
> [ ] +0
>
> [ ] -1
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> PS: this will not impact Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.
>
>

Re: Changes to revised documentation

[Antonio]

Hi Jeremy,

Definitely it is!

The gradle script seems to be looking for a "companion yml" file to the 
asciidoc file. This is usually done for other files (html files, for 
instance) but should _not_ be done for asciidoc files (that already have 
the metadata embedded).


This looks like a bug in the gradle script itself on OS/X, probably due 
to the way OS/X handles files (OS/X may be case sensitive with file 
names, for instance). I'll try to review the gradle script on OS/X 
during the weekend to see if this is indeed a bug.


Meanwhile I'd suggest cloning your fork locally somewhere and using an 
external editor. I'll let you know how to proceed once the build script 
is reviewed.


Kind regards,
Antonio



El 21/02/2019 a las 19:06, Jeremy CAVANAGH escribió:

Hi Antonio,
  
Sorry about the last email I'm using Orange.fr webmail and it clearly truncated message without saving a copy?
  
Anyway, I've just tried running again using ./gradlew clean buildSite run --info with the result:
  
*.asciidoc can not be merged because the corresponding YAML file *.asciidoc.yml was not found.
  
For several 'hundred' entries. I s this of significance.
  
Regards
  
Jeremy




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Re: Changes to revised documentation

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Hi Jeremy,

Sorry for the late reply.

El 20/02/2019 a las 14:41, jeremy.cavan...@orange.fr escribió:


[...]
Now down to the difficult bit, I am trying to follow Antonio's very clear guide 
to install a local test suite. But, it fails:

MBP-High-Sierra:netbeans.apache.org jeremycavanagh$ ./gradlew clean buildSite 
run --stacktrace
:buildSrc:compileJava NO-SOURCE
:buildSrc:compileGroovy UP-TO-DATE


It seems gradle is running properly.

On the command line, please run

java -version

to know the java version you're using, and

git status

to know which git branch you're using. And let us know what those 
commands say.



[...]
:buildSrc:classes UP-TO-DATE

FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.


Here is a summary of the stacktrace:


* What went wrong:
Execution failed for task ':bake'.

java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError (no error message)

..
* Exception is:
org.gradle.api.tasks.TaskExecutionException: Execution failed for task ':bake'.
..
Caused by: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
..
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid key


This is weird. Can't tell what this means. Have you modified any 
asciidoc file? Maybe you have a wrong key in the document metadata.


For instance:

= Title
:wrong key here: value

Remember that keys should not have spaces (just dashes).



Have I done something wrong?



Don't think so.

Cheers,
Antonio

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Re: What NetBeans is on front page

[Antonio]

Hi,

Form:

netbeans.apache.org needs some design love, I think. 
http://www.groovy-lang.org/ may be a good source of inspiration. I heard 
there were some design ideas floating around for the website, but we've 
been hearing that since 2017-2018. I can give the design a go during the 
next week (but I'm not very good at that).


Content:

I think Ate meant to explain a little bit more what NetBeans is to all 
users: what you can do with the platform, what you can do with the IDE, 
how is being donated to Apache, etc.


Maybe we can use Confluence to discuss about the content. Let's create a 
web page with the texts that should go into the front page, and then 
subpages in Confluence that expand on that. Screenshots will be 
appreciated. We can users for screenshots, for instance.


What say?

Cheers,
Antonio


El 19/02/2019 a las 20:28, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

I noticed this by our mentor Ate:

Somehow I don't see this mentioned/used anywhere on the
currentnetbeans.apache.org website though.

Nor any other description of what NetBeans is, which seems odd...



Here:

https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@netbeans.apache.org:lte=1M:After%20again%20checking%20the%20other%20parts

So, I tweaked the front page a bit:

https://netbeans.apache.org/

I added 'Fits the pieces together' as well as the three things that
NetBeans is.

Thoughts? Comments?

Gjk



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Re: Changes to revised documentation

[Antonio]

Hi Jeremy,


El 19/02/2019 a las 13:29, Jeremy Cavanagh escribió:

Hi Everyone,

I didn't like the appearance of my first submission, and have revised 
formatting.


Thanks for your submission and for your revision.



Do I need to create a new pull request or will my changes happen 
automatically?


Since your pull request was already merged then yes, you need to create 
a new pull request (i.e., a new branch and then a pull request).




Sorry to ask these questions but, trying to get up to speed with lots of 


Don't be afraid to ask questions. We're afraid of people that don't ask 
questions! :-)


things (contributing to a GitHub project, learning Asciidoc etc.) I need 
really, really simple info with examples. These things are not easy to 
find on the web.




Agreed. All that stuff is complicated. That's the reason why we're glad 
you ask us.


Finally, how are the live pages created? Is it possible to run apps on 


The NetBeans website is built with a gradle project.

Just clone your fork of the incubator-netbeans-website in a directory of 
your liking:


cd my-repositories (or whatever)

git clone g...@github.com:JeremyCavanagh/incubator-netbeans-website.git
(if you have a ssh key, or)

git clone https://github.com/JeremyCavanagh/incubator-netbeans-website.git
(if you don't)

then:

cd "incubator-netbeans-website" (this is where git cloned the repo)
cd "netbeans.apache.org" (this is a directory inside the repo)
./gradlew clean buildSite run

(the "clean" is only required if you've built the site before and made 
important changes)


This will generate lots of output, download half internet, show some 
warnings, and then you can browse http://localhost:8080 and you should 
see your local website.


my Mac so that I can test before making submissions. I am currently 


Testing before making submissions is appreciated.

doing changes on Atom with all the Asciidoc plugins I can find but, 
although the appearance in preview seems reasonable it is not the same 
as the 'live' version.


Exactly. The gradle project above adds some css/images/etc. to the 
generated HTML automatically.


It's ok if you use any other editor. The visualization of the asciidoc 
documents won't be the same, but the important thing is the content, not 
the way it looks. Just build the site once before submitting.


If you see something very bad in the generated website (fonts, colors, 
layout, etc.) then just let us know. We're improving the site continuosly.




Any help would be gratefully accepted as I don't want to make any more 
submissions until I am sure that what I do will look okay on the 
NetBeans website.




Thanks for that.

Some help: Don't add newlines between the first level and the document 
metadata. So, for instance, this is wrong:


= The title

:foo: bar

But this is right:

= The title
:foo: bar



Kindest regards

Jeremy



Thanks for helping!

Un abrazo,
Antonio



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Apache Releases NetBeans 10.0 Featuring Enhanced Support for JDK 11

[Antonio]

https://www.infoq.com/news/2019/02/apache-releases-netbeans-10.0

Let's Tweet!

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Re: NetBeans on Debian

[Antonio]

El 12/02/2019 a las 13:08, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/netbeans.html

Gj



Bugs

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=netbeans;dist=unstable

:-(

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Re: Source Code Pro as the default font for the Editor?

[Antonio]

It seems that the SIL Open Font License is APLv2 compatible

https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b

I don't know why you call it "standard". I'm currently using IBM Plex 
Mono (SIL as well).


https://www.ibm.com/plex/gallery/

I'd love having a Look and Feel with IBM Plex Fonts (both Sans & Mono) 
for the whole UI.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 7/2/19 a las 7:31, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Just asking,

What do you think about using a standard font like Source Code Pro as 
the default font for Editor?



Laszlo Kishalmi


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Re: Forcing download of binaries

[Antonio]

For information about the cause of an HTTP 503 response code please see

https://www.lifewire.com/503-service-unavailable-explained-2622940

Cheers,
Antonio

El 05/02/2019 a las 13:37, Enrico Olivelli escribió:

Hi,
today I have cloned a fresh new copy of NetBeans repository and I got
this error.
Is there any way to force the download ?

Enrico

BUILD FAILED
/home/diennea.lan/enrico.olivelli/dev/incubator-netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:128:
Could not download
D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip from
http://netbeans.osuosl.org/binaries/: java.io.IOException: Could not
download D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip
to 
/home/diennea.lan/enrico.olivelli/.hgexternalcache/D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip:
java.io.IOException: Skipping download from
http://netbeans.osuosl.org/binaries/D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip
due to response code 503
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.doDownload(DownloadBinaries.java:249)
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.fillInFile(DownloadBinaries.java:190)
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.execute(DownloadBinaries.java:156)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.UnknownElement.execute(UnknownElement.java:293)
 at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor4.invoke(Unknown Source)
 at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
 at 
org.apache.tools.ant.dispatch.DispatchUtils.execute(DispatchUtils.java:106)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Task.perform(Task.java:348)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.execute(Target.java:435)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Target.performTasks(Target.java:456)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeSortedTargets(Project.java:1405)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTarget(Project.java:1376)
 at 
org.apache.tools.ant.helper.DefaultExecutor.executeTargets(DefaultExecutor.java:41)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Project.executeTargets(Project.java:1260)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.runBuild(Main.java:854)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.Main.startAnt(Main.java:236)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:285)
 at org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:112)
Caused by: java.io.IOException: Skipping download from
http://netbeans.osuosl.org/binaries/D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip
due to response code 503
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.downloadFromServer(DownloadBinaries.java:275)
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.legacyDownload(DownloadBinaries.java:262)
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.lambda$execute$1(DownloadBinaries.java:156)
 at 
org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.doDownload(DownloadBinaries.java:226)
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Re: Time has come to redirect netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org?

[Antonio]

Maybe we want to await for this new website redesign?

Cheers,
Antonio

El 2/2/19 a las 9:10, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Everything has been donated, yes. Not everything has been transferred
though. Hence netbeans.org content must continue to be hosted at
netbeans.org. But I believe someone going to netbeans.org should be
redirected to netbeans.apache.org.

Gj

On Saturday, February 2, 2019, Antonio  wrote:




El 02/02/2019 a las 8:19, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:


[...]
So, back to the question with which this mail started -- do we agree that
anyone going to netbeans.org should be redirected to netbeans.apache.org?



Sorry for answering with a question: are we done with donations for the
web site? Or is more material expected to come in future donations?

If we're done with web stuff donations then we can set up a plan for the
redirection.

If we're not done with web stuff dunations then I'd suggest waiting for
the new material.

Cheers,
Antonio

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Re: Time has come to redirect netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org?

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El 02/02/2019 a las 8:19, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

[...]
So, back to the question with which this mail started -- do we agree that
anyone going to netbeans.org should be redirected to netbeans.apache.org?



Sorry for answering with a question: are we done with donations for the 
web site? Or is more material expected to come in future donations?


If we're done with web stuff donations then we can set up a plan for the 
redirection.


If we're not done with web stuff dunations then I'd suggest waiting for 
the new material.


Cheers,
Antonio

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Re: nebeans.apache.org is missing what Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

Some more colors to the frontpage while we await for a new design:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/314


El 31/01/2019 a las 12:48, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I made several changes! What do you (all) think:
https://netbeans.apache.org/

Thanks,

Gj

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Actually, I propose we changed 'Community', 'Participate', and 'Download'
to some of the items that are in the slider on netbeans.org.

Gj

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


I think the slider on netbeans.apache.org should have the same content
as is currently in the slider on netbeans.org.

If someone tells me where the slider content is defined, I'll make the
changes.

Thanks,

Gj


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


OK, sure, what should it say?

Gj

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:23 AM Eric Barboni  wrote:


Hi,

I find (in fact student I asked to get Netbeans :p) the landing page at
netbeans.apache.org is not telling user what is Apache NetBeans.

Would it be possible to add a few words in the layout (between
caroussel and
the card). With a nice agnostic (no java centric) presentation.



Regards

Eric






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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio Vieiro]

+1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair!

El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las 14:57, Geertjan Wielenga
 escribió:

> Hi all,
>
> Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
> become a top level project:
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
> In there is stated:
>
> "...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
> choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."
>
> How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
> threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
> chair?
>
> The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
> quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
> project."
>
> See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html
>
> From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence of
> NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
> opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
> doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think, it
> would not be me or someone from Oracle.
>
> However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
> chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves for
> this role? Or how do we want to do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>

Re: Ready for Review: Apache NetBeans Maturity Model Assessment

[Antonio]

+1

Reviewed. No comments from me. Looks perfect. Thanks, Geertjan!

El 31/01/2019 a las 13:57, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

As part of the process to move us out of the Apache Incubator, we need to
do a self-analysis of our maturity as an Apache project.

I have completed the self-analysis here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans

Comments are welcome and needed!

Feel free to respond in this thread with caveats, thoughts, additions,
comments, insights, etc.

Thanks,

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0

[Antonio]

+1 to not cancel.

El 31/01/2019 a las 10:50, Eric Barboni escribió:

+1

Hi,
I guess it,s ok to use org.netbeans. 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17127
For the NOTICE, I'm not sure it worth a cancellation.

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+1

On 31 Jan 2019, at 07:32, Antonio 
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+1

Agreed. The POM looks perfect.

I recall reading somewhere that the ASF requires all maven artifacts to be published 
under the "org.apache" groupID, is this so or not?

Since the netbeans.org<http://netbeans.org/> domain is now under control of the ASF I 
imagine it's ok to publish Maven artifacts with the "org.netbeans" groupID, right? 
I'd like to verify this before continuing.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 30/1/19 a las 17:38, Emilian Bold escribió:
+1
The pom looks good to me, a list of mailing lists, JIRA, etc.
--emi
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Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community.



In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts (RELEASE100 and 
RELEASE090)  as well as Apache Netbeans mavenutilities (incubating) such as 
nbm-maven-plugin:



I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) maven parent 
version 1.



This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like mailing list, 
licence.





The release is staged at the following place:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdist.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fdist%2Fdev%2Fincubator%2Fnetbeans%2Fincubator-netbeans&data=02%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C39082d4b7539456ee39d08d6874e558e%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C636845167843347131&sdata=XjQEcR4QRDEUVarbqzAbG13FH8mT%2FBSVtHl8ba%2FErSo%3D&reserved=0
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Staged maven repository exists at the following url:

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0

[Antonio]

+1

Agreed. The POM looks perfect.

I recall reading somewhere that the ASF requires all maven artifacts to 
be published under the "org.apache" groupID, is this so or not?


Since the netbeans.org domain is now under control of the ASF I imagine 
it's ok to publish Maven artifacts with the "org.netbeans" groupID, 
right? I'd like to verify this before continuing.


Thanks,
Antonio

El 30/1/19 a las 17:38, Emilian Bold escribió:

+1

The pom looks good to me, a list of mailing lists, JIRA, etc.

--emi

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:


Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community.



In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts (RELEASE100
and RELEASE090)  as well as Apache Netbeans mavenutilities (incubating)
such as nbm-maven-plugin:



I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) maven parent
version 1.



This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like mailing
list, licence.





The release is staged at the following place:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubator-netbeans
-mavenutils/netbeans-parent/



Staged maven repository exists at the following url:

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1007/





Vote open for at least 72 hours.



[ ] +1

[ ] +0

[ ] -1



Best Regards

Eric



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Re: What to do with features for EARs and EJBs?

[Antonio]

So I assume you can call it either "Vintage" or "Legacy".

That's what people call me at home too... X-D

El 28/1/19 a las 21:10, Antonio escribió:

Once upon a long time ago (when I was young) that was called... J2EE :-)

El 28/1/19 a las 21:06, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

OK, OK, let's assume everyone continues to say 'keep it', the question is
how do we call those categories, one is right now 'Java Web' and the 
other

'Java EE', does that still make sense? In the referenced blog entry, I
suggest 'Modern Java EE' and 'Vintage Java EE', or should it be as it is,
or different, if so, how?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 8:59 PM Tomas Poledny  wrote:


+1 to keep. I am using it on my current project.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 20:54 Gary Bello 
+1 for ejb/ear support

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:52 AM Andreas Ernst  wrote:


+1 to keep the EAR and EJB support. YES, please.

Am 28.01.19 um 20:42 schrieb Gaurav Gupta:

+1 to keep the EAR and EJB support.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:


Hi,

Last year I had to help out a customer that was stuck in Java 6 /
WebLogic 8. NetBeans was of great help for me.

I'd try to keep the EAR/EJB functionality. Don't know if as a plugin

or

bundled in the IDE, though.

Maybe it saves the day to somebody else in the future.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 28/1/19 a las 20:05, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

Especially to Java/Jakarta EE people out there, e.g., Ivar, Josh,

David,

at

least -- please advise what should be done with the EAR and EJB

support,

as

described here:








https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/enterprise-cluster-integrated-into-apache 



And, hurray, thanks Matthias especially, and Vikas, Arunava,

Sarvesh,

and

Reema, for a lot of work on relicensing, for getting the enterprise

cluster

integrated!

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Re: What to do with features for EARs and EJBs?

[Antonio]

Once upon a long time ago (when I was young) that was called... J2EE :-)

El 28/1/19 a las 21:06, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

OK, OK, let's assume everyone continues to say 'keep it', the question is
how do we call those categories, one is right now 'Java Web' and the other
'Java EE', does that still make sense? In the referenced blog entry, I
suggest 'Modern Java EE' and 'Vintage Java EE', or should it be as it is,
or different, if so, how?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 8:59 PM Tomas Poledny  wrote:


+1 to keep. I am using it on my current project.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 20:54 Gary Bello 
+1 for ejb/ear support

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:52 AM Andreas Ernst  wrote:


+1 to keep the EAR and EJB support. YES, please.

Am 28.01.19 um 20:42 schrieb Gaurav Gupta:

+1 to keep the EAR and EJB support.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:07 AM, Antonio  wrote:


Hi,

Last year I had to help out a customer that was stuck in Java 6 /
WebLogic 8. NetBeans was of great help for me.

I'd try to keep the EAR/EJB functionality. Don't know if as a plugin

or

bundled in the IDE, though.

Maybe it saves the day to somebody else in the future.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 28/1/19 a las 20:05, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

Especially to Java/Jakarta EE people out there, e.g., Ivar, Josh,

David,

at

least -- please advise what should be done with the EAR and EJB

support,

as

described here:









https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/enterprise-cluster-integrated-into-apache


And, hurray, thanks Matthias especially, and Vikas, Arunava,

Sarvesh,

and

Reema, for a lot of work on relicensing, for getting the enterprise

cluster

integrated!

Gj





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[Tutorials] Samples?

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Where do we want to regenerate the source code for the tutorial samples 
(this was not donated so should be regenerated)? Do I ask for a repository?


Also, how do people in Apache have a repository for contributed code?
(i.e., code for third-parties that's not necessarily covered by the APLv2).

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Re: What to do with features for EARs and EJBs?

[Antonio]

Hi,

Last year I had to help out a customer that was stuck in Java 6 / 
WebLogic 8. NetBeans was of great help for me.


I'd try to keep the EAR/EJB functionality. Don't know if as a plugin or 
bundled in the IDE, though.


Maybe it saves the day to somebody else in the future.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 28/1/19 a las 20:05, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Hi all,

Especially to Java/Jakarta EE people out there, e.g., Ivar, Josh, David, at
least -- please advise what should be done with the EAR and EJB support, as
described here:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/enterprise-cluster-integrated-into-apache

And, hurray, thanks Matthias especially, and Vikas, Arunava, Sarvesh, and
Reema, for a lot of work on relicensing, for getting the enterprise cluster
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Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0

[Antonio]

+1 (binding)

El 26/01/2019 a las 4:51, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There will 
be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects:


  * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
  * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
  * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03

Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote  on each thread as:

+1  I like it, let's do this way
0    I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it
-1   I do not like it at all.

Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed at 
the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version number 
would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values.


Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your 
vote!


Thank you!

Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0

P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only!




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Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

[Antonio]

+1 to calendar versioning.

+1 to NOT using nicknames. I still have to learn if Debian Wheezy is 
older or newer than Debian WhateverTheFlippingName




El 25/01/2019 a las 10:02, Daniel Gruno escribió:

On 1/25/19 9:48 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Are you saying you're against Emilian's proposal, i.e., 2019.03, calendar
versioning?


I'm not against it at all :)
My only suggestion or opinion would be that it should be something where 
users can quickly see whether version A is newer or older than version 
B. Both numerical and calendar versioning solve that. Using nicknames 
would complicate matters, even if just slightly.


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Re: Javadoc for 9 and 10

[Antonio]

Yep.

Also we have this pending review:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1080


El 24/01/2019 a las 5:43, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:

Dne neděle 20. ledna 2019 16:49:45 CET, Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):

Fantastic work as always. :-)


Thanks for the Javadocs  at

http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/
https://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/
https://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/

Btw. The Javadoc for releases should only contain stable modules. There should
be no "under development" warning and modules like bootstrap, core, etc.
shouldn't be listed there. They were not listed in 8.0 and prior releases:

http://bits.netbeans.org/8.0/javadoc/

This can be done by modifying `nbbuild/build.properties` and removing other
than stable from

config.javadoc.all=\
 ${config.javadoc.stable},\
 ${config.javadoc.devel},\
 ${config.javadoc.friend},\
 ${config.javadoc.deprecated}

Probably something for the release coordianator to do after branching next
time.

Thanks again for publishing the Javadocs.
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Re: Gradle Support landed on master JIRA and NetCat updates are required

[Antonio]

Thank you, Laszlo!! This is so cool!!

El 22/01/2019 a las 21:08, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

I've merged the Gradle Support into master. The first build with that:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/975/artifact/nbbuild/ 



We need to add some components to our JIRA, unlike for Maven I'm 
thinking of one component called: *gradle-support* and later on probably 
gradle-javaee (or gradle-jakartaee whatever is trendy these days).


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Re: NetBeans Maven repository

[Antonio]

Also, all, should we deprecate/close this?

Thanks,
Antonio

El 20/01/2019 a las 20:38, Antonio escribió:

Due to https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-puppet/pull/1384

Should be working now. Note that there's a redirection in place to the 
old Oracle server.


Please try again and let us know the results.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 20/01/2019 a las 19:08, Attila Kelemen escribió:

Hi,

Both "http://bits.netbeans.org/netbeans/trunk/new-maven-snapshot"; and "
http://bits.netbeans.org/nexus/content/groups/netbeans"; no longer seem to
work. That is they respond to anything I have tried with 
"bits.netbeans.org

- folder listing disabled". So, building projects against them fail.

Did something happen or is there any replacement for these repositories?

Thanks,
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Re: NetBeans Maven repository

[Antonio]

Due to https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-puppet/pull/1384

Should be working now. Note that there's a redirection in place to the 
old Oracle server.


Please try again and let us know the results.

Thanks,
Antonio

El 20/01/2019 a las 19:08, Attila Kelemen escribió:

Hi,

Both "http://bits.netbeans.org/netbeans/trunk/new-maven-snapshot"; and "
http://bits.netbeans.org/nexus/content/groups/netbeans"; no longer seem to
work. That is they respond to anything I have tried with "bits.netbeans.org
- folder listing disabled". So, building projects against them fail.

Did something happen or is there any replacement for these repositories?

Thanks,
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Re: Javadoc for 9 and 10

[Antonio Vieiro]

Credit must go to Eric Barboni and Daniel Gruno! I just had to join the
dots!

Thanks for reporting the Jira!

El dom., 20 ene. 2019 16:17, Laszlo Kishalmi 
escribió:

> Wow! Great progress! Thank you Antonio!
>
> Firefox actually Ok with the certificate, the only issue I see is that
> the favicon is loaded over http instead of https, so the page get mixed
> content (http and https), and firefox does not like that. Anyway the
> main page is full of http links. We probably shall use https in all of
> our links in the future. Created
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1961 for that.
>
> On 1/20/19 3:33 AM, Antonio wrote:
> > Let's encrypt certificates are now set up.
> >
> > These are "chain certificates" for both netbeans-vm.apache.org and
> > bits.netbeans.org. Firefox doesn't like it, but Chrome doesn't mind.
> >
> > bits.netbeans.org virtual hosts & let's encrypt certs are now
> > configured with Apache Infra puppet. See
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/bits.netbeans.org
> > for details.
> >
> > Also note that the configuration has a bug [1] (solved manually now)
> > that will be addressed in the comming days.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> > [1]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1958
> >
> > El 19/01/2019 a las 22:10, Antonio escribió:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> DNS changes being propagated (thanks, Daniel!).
> >>
> >> Please test & jira as appropriate.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >> P.S.: HTTPS version within a few days.
> >>
> >> El 19/01/2019 a las 8:35, Antonio escribió:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We're almost there:
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We've asked Apache Infra to modify the DNS settings of
> >>> bits.netbeans.org to point to netbeans-vm.apache.org, this will take
> >>> a little bit.
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17692
> >>>
> >>> After that the Apache NetBeans official javadoc will be at:
> >>>
> >>> http://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/
> >>> http://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/
> >>> http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/
> >>>
> >>> Note that https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html will be
> >>> deprecated (we may redirect it to bits.netbeans.org instead).
> >>>
> >>> https URLs will take a bit longer, as we'll have to request and set
> >>> up Let's Encrypt certificates.
> >>>
> >>> For details on how this is set up please see
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Antonio
> >>>
> >>> El 19/01/2019 a las 6:41, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:
> >>>> Hi webmasters and release coordinators!
> >>>>
> >>>> I can see our latest Javadoc at
> >>>>
> >>>> https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> but we don't seem to have pages for Javadoc 9 and Javadoc 10. E.g.
> >>>> I cannot
> >>>> link to those versions from the above index page. The last version
> >>>> with
> >>>> Javadoc that I found is:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://bits.netbeans.org/8.2/javadoc/
> >>>>
> >>>> -jt
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Re: NetBeans Team Photos, anyone?

[Antonio]

Good choice!

I think the slider in the front page can be configured to have different 
background images for each slide.


That photo (dimmed, darkened, properly scaled) would do a great 
background for the Duke Award's 2018 slide.


For other slides we may want to add some NetBeans screenshots (scaled, 
darkened, rotated, blurred, etc.).


Background images for those slides should be fast to download (e.g. jpg 
files, otherwise the slide will appear black while the image loads).


Cheers,
Antonio

El 20/01/2019 a las 12:05, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I must say that those two photos I would not recommend.

Instead, use the one in the header of the @NetBeans twitter account.

Gj

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 12:04 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Good question and also great plan.

I'm not sure if anyone specifically owns these kinds of photos -- they've
been tweeted around, referenced everywhere, i.e., they're treated as public
domain and so long as we don't claim we own them, there's no reason (I
believe) why we can't use them.

Gj


On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 8:07 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

It would be great if we could use the photos at [1] and [2] (Duke Award
2018 Photos) in our website. Does anybody know who owns those photos?

Also, does anybody have some other photos of that event (or any other)
that they want to donate to NetBeans?

Thanks,
Antonio


[1]

https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/9f78fc09-faec-4068-82bd-09e7cc8bbf34/Image/0b82e38a514c8f0b8db0987f3bfa9799/181021_oow18_duke_choice_awards_8421.jpg

[2]

https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/9f78fc09-faec-4068-82bd-09e7cc8bbf34/File/e9aabb890443230873b4f7278b738477/181021_oow18_duke_choice_awards_8465__1_.jpg

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Re: Javadoc for 9 and 10

[Antonio]

Let's encrypt certificates are now set up.

These are "chain certificates" for both netbeans-vm.apache.org and 
bits.netbeans.org. Firefox doesn't like it, but Chrome doesn't mind.


bits.netbeans.org virtual hosts & let's encrypt certs are now configured 
with Apache Infra puppet. See 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/bits.netbeans.org 
for details.


Also note that the configuration has a bug [1] (solved manually now) 
that will be addressed in the comming days.


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1958

El 19/01/2019 a las 22:10, Antonio escribió:

Hi all,

DNS changes being propagated (thanks, Daniel!).

Please test & jira as appropriate.

Cheers,
Antonio

P.S.: HTTPS version within a few days.

El 19/01/2019 a las 8:35, Antonio escribió:

Hi,

We're almost there:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176


We've asked Apache Infra to modify the DNS settings of 
bits.netbeans.org to point to netbeans-vm.apache.org, this will take a 
little bit.


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17692

After that the Apache NetBeans official javadoc will be at:

http://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/

Note that https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html will be 
deprecated (we may redirect it to bits.netbeans.org instead).


https URLs will take a bit longer, as we'll have to request and set up 
Let's Encrypt certificates.


For details on how this is set up please see

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities 



Cheers,
Antonio

El 19/01/2019 a las 6:41, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:

Hi webmasters and release coordinators!

I can see our latest Javadoc at

https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html

but we don't seem to have pages for Javadoc 9 and Javadoc 10. E.g. I 
cannot

link to those versions from the above index page. The last version with
Javadoc that I found is:

http://bits.netbeans.org/8.2/javadoc/

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Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

[Antonio]

Hi,

We now say, at the bottom of each web page, that

"Apache Incubator, Apache, Apache NetBeans, NetBeans, the Apache feather 
logo, the Apache NetBeans logo, and the Apache Incubator project logo 
are trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation."


Any comments/enhancements welcome.

El 18/01/2019 a las 12:02, Jan Lahoda escribió:

FWIW, there's a discussion on legal-discuss that is, I think, related to
this thread:
https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201901.mbox/%3CCAK1xzDeKTOEpKED3PzTLuKkbtRi5ubv5AijcB%3DDvzo8PO0jU4w%40mail.gmail.com%3E

And there's a link in that thread that may be somewhat relevant as well:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-427?focusedCommentId=16722198&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16722198

Jan


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:54 PM Emilian Bold  wrote:


Note that the Apache link is about trademarks. It makes no difference if
it's a convenience binary if the trademark is being (mis)used. It could
just be the name or logo.

--emi

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:32, Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:


Hi,

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:44 PM Jan Lahoda  wrote:

...Frankly, I wonder if there's a chance to allow some "good" uses,

like

"X

with Apache NetBeans N" or a "Bundle of X and Apache NetBeans N",

provided

some basic conditions are met,...


Of course that's possible, as Geertjan says the NetBeans (P)PMC just

needs

to clarify how things have to be named, to avoid confusion and especially
as you say make it crystal clear what comes from Apache NetBeans and what
does not.


...this would
be distributing an official release of NetBeans, just packed together

with

something else


If it's binaries then no, it is not distributing an official release
because releases consist only of source code.

It's redistributing a convenience binary...I think we need to clarify at
the Apache level this difference, I recently proposed a two-level view on
releases and convenience binaries [1] which has not made its way to our
official docs yet but should help understand.

-Bertrand

[1]



https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/01a64394c3996406d98904256ebdd46667bf73947983722e7ab57f50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E



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NetBeans Team Photos, anyone?

[Antonio]

Hi all,

It would be great if we could use the photos at [1] and [2] (Duke Award 
2018 Photos) in our website. Does anybody know who owns those photos?


Also, does anybody have some other photos of that event (or any other) 
that they want to donate to NetBeans?


Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/9f78fc09-faec-4068-82bd-09e7cc8bbf34/Image/0b82e38a514c8f0b8db0987f3bfa9799/181021_oow18_duke_choice_awards_8421.jpg

[2]
https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/9f78fc09-faec-4068-82bd-09e7cc8bbf34/File/e9aabb890443230873b4f7278b738477/181021_oow18_duke_choice_awards_8465__1_.jpg

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Re: Javadoc for 9 and 10

[Antonio]

Hi all,

DNS changes being propagated (thanks, Daniel!).

Please test & jira as appropriate.

Cheers,
Antonio

P.S.: HTTPS version within a few days.

El 19/01/2019 a las 8:35, Antonio escribió:

Hi,

We're almost there:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176


We've asked Apache Infra to modify the DNS settings of bits.netbeans.org 
to point to netbeans-vm.apache.org, this will take a little bit.


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17692

After that the Apache NetBeans official javadoc will be at:

http://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/

Note that https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html will be 
deprecated (we may redirect it to bits.netbeans.org instead).


https URLs will take a bit longer, as we'll have to request and set up 
Let's Encrypt certificates.


For details on how this is set up please see

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities 



Cheers,
Antonio

El 19/01/2019 a las 6:41, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:

Hi webmasters and release coordinators!

I can see our latest Javadoc at

https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html

but we don't seem to have pages for Javadoc 9 and Javadoc 10. E.g. I 
cannot

link to those versions from the above index page. The last version with
Javadoc that I found is:

http://bits.netbeans.org/8.2/javadoc/

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Re: Javadoc for 9 and 10

[Antonio]

Hi,

We're almost there:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176


We've asked Apache Infra to modify the DNS settings of bits.netbeans.org 
to point to netbeans-vm.apache.org, this will take a little bit.


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17692

After that the Apache NetBeans official javadoc will be at:

http://bits.netbeans.org/9.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/10.0/javadoc/
http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/

Note that https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html will be 
deprecated (we may redirect it to bits.netbeans.org instead).


https URLs will take a bit longer, as we'll have to request and set up 
Let's Encrypt certificates.


For details on how this is set up please see

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities

Cheers,
Antonio

El 19/01/2019 a las 6:41, Jaroslav Tulach escribió:

Hi webmasters and release coordinators!

I can see our latest Javadoc at

https://netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/dev/index.html

but we don't seem to have pages for Javadoc 9 and Javadoc 10. E.g. I cannot
link to those versions from the above index page. The last version with
Javadoc that I found is:

http://bits.netbeans.org/8.2/javadoc/

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History

[Antonio]

Hi all,

I think we should ask Oracle to donate the "NetBeans history page" at 
https://netbeans.org/about/history.html, including that photo (any 
others would be welcome).


We can then append the Apache history at the end.

Thanks,
Antonio

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Re: [bits.netbeans.org] javadoc/mavenutilities, what else?

[Antonio]

Hi Eric,

We are not supposed to host binaries at bits.netbeans.org (nor elsewhere 
but for the Apache Mirror System or Maven Central & friends).


So I agree: these should _not_ be redirected.

In fact all binaries currently at bits.netbeans.org will be gone in the 
future, and only the directories we mention will be kept (redirection is 
a temporary things aimed to ease transition to Apache).


Kind regards,
Antonio

El 17/01/2019 a las 10:21, Eric Barboni escribió:

Hi,
   I'm not sure it's a good idea to allow
 dev/new-maven-snapshot/
 dev/maven-snapshot/

  to be redirected, it contains development version of 2017 artefacts that are 
from NetBeans Oracle post 8.2
  
Regards

Eric

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Envoyé : jeudi 17 janvier 2019 07:42
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Objet : [bits.netbeans.org] javadoc/mavenutilities, what else?

Hi all,

Eric Barboni and I have been pushing the javadoc for 9.0, 10.0 and dev and also 
some maven utilities web pages to the netbeans-vm.apache.org (technical details 
at [1]).

We now have 9.0/javadoc, 10.0/javadoc, dev/javadoc and /mavenutilities 
directories set up in a web server in netbeans-vm.apache.org, to replace the 
old bits.netbeans.org site.

You can try it by hacking your etc/hosts file
(C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts) and adding an entry like this:

52.6.211.55 bits.netbeans.org

Missing pages are being redirected (302) to the old bits.netbeans.org 
(137.254.56.27).

Question is: Are we missing any other content on the Apache bits.netbeans.org 
site before asking for a permanent DNS change?

Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities

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[bits.netbeans.org] javadoc/mavenutilities, what else?

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Eric Barboni and I have been pushing the javadoc for 9.0, 10.0 and dev 
and also some maven utilities web pages to the netbeans-vm.apache.org 
(technical details at [1]).


We now have 9.0/javadoc, 10.0/javadoc, dev/javadoc and /mavenutilities 
directories set up in a web server in netbeans-vm.apache.org, to replace 
the old bits.netbeans.org site.


You can try it by hacking your etc/hosts file 
(C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts) and adding an entry like this:


52.6.211.55 bits.netbeans.org

Missing pages are being redirected (302) to the old bits.netbeans.org 
(137.254.56.27).


Question is: Are we missing any other content on the Apache 
bits.netbeans.org site before asking for a permanent DNS change?


Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans-javadoc+and+maven+utilities

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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi Geertjan,

I updated https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867 with some 
basic instructions. Feel free to enhance.


Kind regards,
Antonio

El 15/01/2019 a las 11:16, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

What are the steps to correctly create an issue to assign to myself for
reviewing a tutorial?

Gj

On Monday, January 14, 2019, Antonio  wrote:


Oh, I think I replied to the wrong mail in the thread a minute ago :-(

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/101 is the PR
you're looking for! :-)

It's important to keep track of which tutorials have been reviewed. We can
use https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867 for that.

Kind regards,
Antonio

El 13/01/2019 a las 21:20, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:


I'd like to be able to go directly into GitHub and make changes to
tutorials and then to push them as PR's into the repo.

Is this possible, that would simplify things, I would make a YouTube clip
about this scenario if it were to be possible and tweet it, etc.

Gj


On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 6:21 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

But my additional idea is to simply link all java, php, and platform

tutorials into the site so that everyone can easily see and access them
and
then everyone can make changes live on GitHub and then provide PRs from
there. What’s the objection to this approach?

Gj

On Sunday, January 13, 2019, Antonio  wrote:

Hi Geertjan,


We're creating subtasks at [1] , specifying which tutorials we're
working
on. Then we submit PRs against the website, and mark the subtask as
completed.

[1] also has some rough instructions and some links to help with
AsciiDoc.

Hope this helps,
Antonio


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

El 13/01/2019 a las 14:56, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I'd like to review the 'platform' tutorials, what do I need to do to

assign
these to myself and get started with this?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:05 PM Brad Walker 
wrote:

Understand..



Being new to the project, I'm not always sure how all the pieces fit
together.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:38 PM Antonio  wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1875



Note that cnd is not currently available in Apache NetBeans (has not
been donated as of yet).

Thanks!
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 20:58, Brad Walker escribió:

I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.


I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running
list

of




places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the

tutorials



and


they need some attention.


-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:

Hi all,



I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for
cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper

tutorials.







Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review

we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java",
"ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.






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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Oh, I think I replied to the wrong mail in the thread a minute ago :-(

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/101 is the PR 
you're looking for! :-)


It's important to keep track of which tutorials have been reviewed. We 
can use https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867 for that.


Kind regards,
Antonio

El 13/01/2019 a las 21:20, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I'd like to be able to go directly into GitHub and make changes to
tutorials and then to push them as PR's into the repo.

Is this possible, that would simplify things, I would make a YouTube clip
about this scenario if it were to be possible and tweet it, etc.

Gj


On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 6:21 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


But my additional idea is to simply link all java, php, and platform
tutorials into the site so that everyone can easily see and access them and
then everyone can make changes live on GitHub and then provide PRs from
there. What’s the objection to this approach?

Gj

On Sunday, January 13, 2019, Antonio  wrote:


Hi Geertjan,

We're creating subtasks at [1] , specifying which tutorials we're working
on. Then we submit PRs against the website, and mark the subtask as
completed.

[1] also has some rough instructions and some links to help with AsciiDoc.

Hope this helps,
Antonio


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

El 13/01/2019 a las 14:56, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:


I'd like to review the 'platform' tutorials, what do I need to do to
assign
these to myself and get started with this?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:05 PM Brad Walker  wrote:

Understand..


Being new to the project, I'm not always sure how all the pieces fit
together.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:38 PM Antonio  wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1875


Note that cnd is not currently available in Apache NetBeans (has not
been donated as of yet).

Thanks!
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 20:58, Brad Walker escribió:


I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.

I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running list


of



places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the tutorials



and


they need some attention.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:

Hi all,


I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for
cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper


tutorials.





Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review
we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.





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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi Geertjan,

So let's go! See PR-101 [1] that adds all java/ide/php tutorials to 
/help/index.html.


We will still be using NETBEANS-1867 [2] to keep track of which 
tutorials have been reviewed.


Kind regards,
Antonio

[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/101

[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

El 13/01/2019 a las 15:22, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I recommend linking all the java, php, and platform tutorials ASAP into
this page, reviewed and updated or not, and then to review and update them
once they are there, i.e., we need to see them and have them visible,
they're good enough as they are and we can work on them live:

https://netbeans.apache.org/help/index.html

Gj

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 2:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


I'd like to review the 'platform' tutorials, what do I need to do to
assign these to myself and get started with this?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:05 PM Brad Walker  wrote:


Understand..

Being new to the project, I'm not always sure how all the pieces fit
together.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:38 PM Antonio  wrote:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1875

Note that cnd is not currently available in Apache NetBeans (has not
been donated as of yet).

Thanks!
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 20:58, Brad Walker escribió:

I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.

I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running list

of

places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the

tutorials

and

they need some attention.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for

cnd

(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper

tutorials.


Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review

we

may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.





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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi Geertjan,

We're creating subtasks at [1] , specifying which tutorials we're 
working on. Then we submit PRs against the website, and mark the subtask 
as completed.


[1] also has some rough instructions and some links to help with AsciiDoc.

Hope this helps,
Antonio


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

El 13/01/2019 a las 14:56, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I'd like to review the 'platform' tutorials, what do I need to do to assign
these to myself and get started with this?

Gj

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:05 PM Brad Walker  wrote:


Understand..

Being new to the project, I'm not always sure how all the pieces fit
together.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:38 PM Antonio  wrote:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1875

Note that cnd is not currently available in Apache NetBeans (has not
been donated as of yet).

Thanks!
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 20:58, Brad Walker escribió:

I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.

I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running list

of

places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the tutorials

and

they need some attention.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper

tutorials.


Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.





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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

El 07/01/2019 a las 21:54, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

I think in general we should make the tutorials be less wordy, less long
paragraphs.


Geertjan, I think you should be adding those pieces of advice to the 
website tips & tricks [1].


After all, you're one our favourite bloggers! ;-)

Thanks,
Antonio


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100827339


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[tutorials] NetBeans AsciiDoc Tips & Tricks

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Here are some "tips&tricks"/best practices we're using in the website, 
that can be useful when reviewing the tutorials.


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100827339

Feel free to enhance or ask for more stuff.

Cheers,
Antonio

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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi John,

That's greatly appreciated. Please "git fetch upstream" and "git merge 
upstream/master" before proceeding further (so you receive the clickable 
image fix).


You may want to assign the task/subtasks to yourself, to avoid 
duplicating work.


Thanks,
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 21:39, John McDonnell escribió:

Hi,

For the IDE portion, I might create a sub task for each page, as I wont get
through all of them today, but can use the sub tasks to track my progress...

Regards

John

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 19:59, Brad Walker  wrote:


I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.

I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running list of
places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the tutorials and
they need some attention.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.







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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi all,

I solved a small bug with clickable images that were wrongly 
constructed. We should be able to see more images now at 
http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/quickstart.html (some of them 
clickable with the colorbox plugin).


That'd make the review easier, I think.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 9:00, Antonio escribió:

Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation 
tutorials at


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create 
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd 
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.


Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong 
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not 
donated) and create alternatives.

- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we 
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.


I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide" 
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.


Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: I (can't/don't know how to) create Kanban boards in JIRA. Maybe 
it's a good idea to create a board with all these tasks? Anyone?




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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1875

Note that cnd is not currently available in Apache NetBeans (has not 
been donated as of yet).


Thanks!
Antonio

El 07/01/2019 a las 20:58, Brad Walker escribió:

I would suggest to create a CND C/C++ subtask and I'll help with it.

I've actively using CND in my day-to-day work and have a running list of
places that could use some TLC. I've been working through the tutorials and
they need some attention.

-brad w.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:00 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.





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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi,

We also have the _ca suffix for catalán [1].

We can include a bottom footer on all tutorials (we're using 
src/content/templates/tutorial.gsp as the template for tutorials) 
linking to the different versions. If a translation exists then link to 
the translation, otherwise link to a page requesting for a translation.


I think it's a great idea to focus on the english version of the 
tutorials (we have little time for NetBeans 11), and then ask people for 
help with the translations (for NetBeans 11+).


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/web/jsf20-support_ca.asciidoc


El 07/01/2019 a las 16:38, John McDonnell escribió:

Quick question...

Whats the propose approach with translations?

Lets say I review and edit:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/ide/java-db.asciidoc

Theres 4 translations needed to be taken care off:
java-db-ja.asciidoc
java-db-pt_BR.asciidoc
java-db-ru.asciidoc
java-db-zh_CN.asciidoc

Whats the recommended - Focus on the English language version and reach out
asking on the users/dev mailing list for translation help?  Or attempt a
google translate and then again reach out for confirmation on the attempt?

Regards

John



On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 15:33, Antonio  wrote:


Thanks John! Greatly appreciated!

El 07/01/2019 a las 16:30, John McDonnell escribió:

Antonio,



https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=303&view=null


Any sub task raised with the label "third-donation" will appear on this
board. - I've also made you an admin so you should be able to tweak the
flow if required.

Regards

John



On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 08:00, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: I (can't/don't know how to) create Kanban boards in JIRA. Maybe
it's a good idea to create a board with all these tasks? Anyone?


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Re: [tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Thanks John! Greatly appreciated!

El 07/01/2019 a las 16:30, John McDonnell escribió:

Antonio,

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=303&view=null

Any sub task raised with the label "third-donation" will appear on this
board. - I've also made you an admin so you should be able to tweak the
flow if required.

Regards

John



On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 08:00, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation
tutorials at

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.

Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not
donated) and create alternatives.
- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.

I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide"
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.

Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: I (can't/don't know how to) create Kanban boards in JIRA. Maybe
it's a good idea to create a board with all these tasks? Anyone?


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Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans 11.0 Release Schedule

[Antonio]

Hi,

It would be great if we could have at least the "java", "ide" and "php" 
sections of the tutorials ready for NetBeans 11.


- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1868
- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1869
- https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1870

We can then proceed with the rest (javaee, websvc, cnd, etc.) for future 
releases.


Cheers,
Antonio

El 06/01/2019 a las 11:36, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Excellent, thanks for that schedule.

I believe we should see the following as the drivers (i.e., the P1s) of
this release:

1. JDK 12 support
2. Integration of the enterprise cluster

The above is in line with the roadmap proposal:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

Integration of the enterprise cluster should start with including the
enterprise cluster into the build process, I think?

Gj



On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Dear all,

We've made some bold plans, back at November, releasing NetBeans 11.0
(or 11 we really shall decide this BTW) in March 2019


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

If we would like to keep ourselves to that commitment, we had our little
time to celebrate, but we need to move on and prepare for the next round.

Let's assume that we plan with a late March release 28th on week 13th,
I've put together a release schedule to have something to discuss on:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11

I guess we are going to work with a 6 weeks NetCat cycle, so it should
start around the 6th week. I'd be happy if someone who knows NetCat more
could fill out the table.

Thank you in advance!

Laszlo Kishalmi



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[tutorials] JIRA to review the donated tutorials / NetBeans 11

[Antonio]

Hi all,

I've created JIRA 1867 to track the review of the third-donation 
tutorials at


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1867

This has subtasks for different parts of the tutorials. I've create 
subtasks for java, ide and php. We may want to create subtasks for cnd 
(C/C++), web, websvc, javaee, javame later on.


Proposed things to do:

- decide if the tutorial applies to Apache NetBeans or not.
- update the minimum requirements.
- fine-tune the content (remove unwanted parts or substitute wrong 
tables, etc.)
- find which images are missing from the tutorials (that were not 
donated) and create alternatives.

- same for sample code (do we want to create a repo for this?)
- update the minimum requirements.
- create a src/content/kb/trails directory and link to proper tutorials.

Once each section is reviewed and we're comfortable with the review we 
may want to allow users to navigate to each section.


I think it would be great if we could at least have the "java", "ide" 
and "php" sections ready for NetBeans 11.


Enhancements/ideas are most welcome.

Thanks,
Antonio

P.S.: I (can't/don't know how to) create Kanban boards in JIRA. Maybe 
it's a good idea to create a board with all these tasks? Anyone?



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Re: Third Donation - Tutorials (was Re: Website enhancement ideas)

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Let's set up a plan to gradually allow the users to navigate to 
different tutorials. For instance, let's allow them to visit the "java" 
tutorials but not the "C++" tutorials (not at least until we support C++).


We will have to manually review many pages. For instance, this one:

http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/quickstart.html

Has some minor problems with images and at the bottom of the page 
there's some weird table that we may want to remove.


For instance, in the coming weeks we want to review

- Java tutorials.
- PHP tutorials.

And then prepare for the Enterprise donation
- Java EE tutorials.
- Web services tutorials.

And then for the C++ donation:
- C++ tutorials

etc.

Let's think of the order of the tutorials we want to review and let's 
set up a master JIRA issue (Kanban board?) to track all the tutorial 
donations, with subtasks/subissues for each section of the documentation.


I'll try to do that in the coming days (as today I'm busy with the three 
wise men [1]).


Kind regards,
Antonio


[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Spanish_customs
A tradition in Spain where "Los Reyes Magos" give presents to children, 
quite similar to Santa in other parts of the world.



El 06/01/2019 a las 11:33, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Excellent progress!

I have squashed and merged.

I believe this page https://netbeans.apache.org/help/index.html should be
seen as the future version of this page https://netbeans.org/kb/index.html.

Could we have 'kb' (i.e., knowledge base) in the URL where there currently
is 'help'?

Gj


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:16 AM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

Please see https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/97
with the netbeans.org tutorials/trails automatically transformed to
asciidoc. This is still a work in progress.

Main features:

- 3rd donation tutorials automatically converted to Asciidoc with
incubator-netbeans-tools
- This is, we removed netbeans.org specific HTML stuff.
- Copied images automatically in a 'images' subdir near the documents.
- Added syntax highlighting support for different languages (also wiki
pages).
- Files are stored in the same locations as in netbeans.org, to ease
migration (i.e., kb/docs/, kb/docs/java, etc.)

Tutorials are _NOT_ linked from the home page, this is, there's no link
from the website to the tutorials as of yet: users won't be able to
navigate to the tutorials.

When/if merged, we will have to navigate directly to a tutorial or to
http://netbeans.apache.org/kb or to http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/

The idea is to decide which tutorials we're linking from the web. For
instance, we may not want to link to C/C++ tutorials yet (because we
don't support it yet), but we may want to link to PHP tutorials.

So the basic plan is to:

- Decide which subdirectories we'll link from the main web.
- Manual fine-tuning of content (missing images, removing of manual
table of contents, etc.).

I'll be offline most of the day today, but will try to set up a plan in
the coming days as time permits.

Kind regards,
Antonio






El 05/01/2019 a las 10:51, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

It seems they're in your GitHub, right now, i.e., github.com/vieiro:



https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/java/quickstart.asciidoc


Is this correct, right now, or is there a link on the Apache NetBeans
GitHubs somewhere.

Thanks,

Gj

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM Antonio  wrote:


Good plan! Thanks, Geertjan!

El 30/12/2018 a las 12:24, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Great and thanks for all the work!

   From my point of view, it would be simplest if you'd create a list of

tasks

on the Wiki, each task being an issue so that we can track via JIRA.

So far, it seems to me that the best approach is to simply take the

lead

and put those tasks out there as a starting point, and then others will
take it from there. A discussion that is too open is not going to get

too

many responses, it seems so far.

   From my end, I've been working on netbeans.org -- especially the

front

page

where every link AFAIK now point to netbeans.apache.org. Since a few
minutes, the netbeans.org/downloads page redirects to the Apache

NetBeans

download page.

In short, until we have all the documentation that is on netbeans.org
safely housed and structured at Apache, and we have redirects etc in

place,

netbeans.org will as far as possible simply have all/most of its links
redirect to netbeans.apache.org.

Gj


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:35 PM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you know the current https://netbeans.apache.org was launched

about

one year ago and has gone through different enhancements.

During this year we've added some wiki pages, some content, our

download

pages are compliant wit

Third Donation - Tutorials (was Re: Website enhancement ideas)

[Antonio]

Hi all,

Please see https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/97 
with the netbeans.org tutorials/trails automatically transformed to 
asciidoc. This is still a work in progress.


Main features:

- 3rd donation tutorials automatically converted to Asciidoc with 
incubator-netbeans-tools

- This is, we removed netbeans.org specific HTML stuff.
- Copied images automatically in a 'images' subdir near the documents.
- Added syntax highlighting support for different languages (also wiki 
pages).
- Files are stored in the same locations as in netbeans.org, to ease 
migration (i.e., kb/docs/, kb/docs/java, etc.)


Tutorials are _NOT_ linked from the home page, this is, there's no link 
from the website to the tutorials as of yet: users won't be able to 
navigate to the tutorials.


When/if merged, we will have to navigate directly to a tutorial or to 
http://netbeans.apache.org/kb or to http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/


The idea is to decide which tutorials we're linking from the web. For 
instance, we may not want to link to C/C++ tutorials yet (because we 
don't support it yet), but we may want to link to PHP tutorials.


So the basic plan is to:

- Decide which subdirectories we'll link from the main web.
- Manual fine-tuning of content (missing images, removing of manual 
table of contents, etc.).


I'll be offline most of the day today, but will try to set up a plan in 
the coming days as time permits.


Kind regards,
Antonio






El 05/01/2019 a las 10:51, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

It seems they're in your GitHub, right now, i.e., github.com/vieiro:

https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/java/quickstart.asciidoc

Is this correct, right now, or is there a link on the Apache NetBeans
GitHubs somewhere.

Thanks,

Gj

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM Antonio  wrote:


Good plan! Thanks, Geertjan!

El 30/12/2018 a las 12:24, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Great and thanks for all the work!

  From my point of view, it would be simplest if you'd create a list of

tasks

on the Wiki, each task being an issue so that we can track via JIRA.

So far, it seems to me that the best approach is to simply take the lead
and put those tasks out there as a starting point, and then others will
take it from there. A discussion that is too open is not going to get too
many responses, it seems so far.

  From my end, I've been working on netbeans.org -- especially the front

page

where every link AFAIK now point to netbeans.apache.org. Since a few
minutes, the netbeans.org/downloads page redirects to the Apache

NetBeans

download page.

In short, until we have all the documentation that is on netbeans.org
safely housed and structured at Apache, and we have redirects etc in

place,

netbeans.org will as far as possible simply have all/most of its links
redirect to netbeans.apache.org.

Gj


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:35 PM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you know the current https://netbeans.apache.org was launched about
one year ago and has gone through different enhancements.

During this year we've added some wiki pages, some content, our download
pages are compliant with Apache requirements and we're also compliant
with all Apache Whimsy requirements [1].

Before starting integrating the tutorials [2] and before leaving the
incubator we may want to prepare some enhancements. These may range from
look and feel enhancements (banners, images, icons, typography
enhancements, etc.) to content enhancements (sidebars, banners, etc.),
or some repository enhancements (removing the 'bits.netbeans.org'
directory, for instance, as this is now handled elsewhere) or tooling
enhancements.

What do you think could be improved? Are there any volunteers for the
look and feel enhancements? Do we want to start a "web design contest"
much like the "NetBeans Logo Contest" we did for our logo? Do we want to
host a NetBeans blog there as well?

Ideas and request for enhancements would be most welcome. Let's

brainstorm.


Thanks in advance,
Antonio

[1]
https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans

[2]



https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/tree/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs


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Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

[Antonio]

For the records, the License FAQ explicitly clarifies the "Powered by" 
et al vs. TradeMarks:


http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#Name-changes

Cheers,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 16:32, Antonio escribió:

Hi,

"Powered by Spark" may be a good example for us:

https://spark.apache.org/powered-by.html

Quoting:


Names like “Spark BigCoProduct” are not OK, as are names including 
“Spark” in general. The above links, however, describe some exceptions, 
like for names such as “BigCoProduct, powered by Apache Spark” or 
“BigCoProduct for Apache Spark”.



Feliz Año,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 14:09, Emilian Bold escribió:

Apache has a 'Powered by' program which seems a good fit for the NetBeans
Platform.

--emi

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 14:52, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

We should get Apache NetBeans added to the list of ASF Trademarks at
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/ (NetBeans is already a
tracermark of Apache, isn't it?). We should also mention that Apache
NetBeans is a trademark of the ASF at the footer of all web pages in our
site.

As we all there's a great ecosystem of apps built on top of the NetBeans
Platform, and I think it could be good to acknowledge and promote this.

I don't think something like "Built on Top of the Apache NetBeans
Platform" is contrary to the ASF tracemark policies.

Cheers,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 12:04, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:22 AM Emilian Bold 

wrote:


Is it really wise to create a separate FAQ from the Apache trademarks
pages?...


If you keep it minimal I think it's good - you probably just need 2-3
good examples of naming for the types of things that people are doing
with NetBeans.

And of course point to the ASF trademarks pages and avoid duplicating
their information.

But that's a decision for this PPMC to make - whoever does the work
gets to decide, and that's not me ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

[Antonio]

Hi,

"Powered by Spark" may be a good example for us:

https://spark.apache.org/powered-by.html

Quoting:


Names like “Spark BigCoProduct” are not OK, as are names including 
“Spark” in general. The above links, however, describe some exceptions, 
like for names such as “BigCoProduct, powered by Apache Spark” or 
“BigCoProduct for Apache Spark”.



Feliz Año,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 14:09, Emilian Bold escribió:

Apache has a 'Powered by' program which seems a good fit for the NetBeans
Platform.

--emi

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 14:52, Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

We should get Apache NetBeans added to the list of ASF Trademarks at
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/ (NetBeans is already a
tracermark of Apache, isn't it?). We should also mention that Apache
NetBeans is a trademark of the ASF at the footer of all web pages in our
site.

As we all there's a great ecosystem of apps built on top of the NetBeans
Platform, and I think it could be good to acknowledge and promote this.

I don't think something like "Built on Top of the Apache NetBeans
Platform" is contrary to the ASF tracemark policies.

Cheers,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 12:04, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:22 AM Emilian Bold 

wrote:


Is it really wise to create a separate FAQ from the Apache trademarks
pages?...


If you keep it minimal I think it's good - you probably just need 2-3
good examples of naming for the types of things that people are doing
with NetBeans.

And of course point to the ASF trademarks pages and avoid duplicating
their information.

But that's a decision for this PPMC to make - whoever does the work
gets to decide, and that's not me ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

[Antonio]

Hi all,

We should get Apache NetBeans added to the list of ASF Trademarks at 
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/ (NetBeans is already a 
tracermark of Apache, isn't it?). We should also mention that Apache 
NetBeans is a trademark of the ASF at the footer of all web pages in our 
site.


As we all there's a great ecosystem of apps built on top of the NetBeans 
Platform, and I think it could be good to acknowledge and promote this.


I don't think something like "Built on Top of the Apache NetBeans 
Platform" is contrary to the ASF tracemark policies.


Cheers,
Antonio


El 03/01/2019 a las 12:04, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:22 AM Emilian Bold  wrote:


Is it really wise to create a separate FAQ from the Apache trademarks
pages?...


If you keep it minimal I think it's good - you probably just need 2-3
good examples of naming for the types of things that people are doing
with NetBeans.

And of course point to the ASF trademarks pages and avoid duplicating
their information.

But that's a decision for this PPMC to make - whoever does the work
gets to decide, and that's not me ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: Website enhancement ideas

[Antonio]

Good plan! Thanks, Geertjan!

El 30/12/2018 a las 12:24, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

Great and thanks for all the work!

 From my point of view, it would be simplest if you'd create a list of tasks
on the Wiki, each task being an issue so that we can track via JIRA.

So far, it seems to me that the best approach is to simply take the lead
and put those tasks out there as a starting point, and then others will
take it from there. A discussion that is too open is not going to get too
many responses, it seems so far.

 From my end, I've been working on netbeans.org -- especially the front page
where every link AFAIK now point to netbeans.apache.org. Since a few
minutes, the netbeans.org/downloads page redirects to the Apache NetBeans
download page.

In short, until we have all the documentation that is on netbeans.org
safely housed and structured at Apache, and we have redirects etc in place,
netbeans.org will as far as possible simply have all/most of its links
redirect to netbeans.apache.org.

Gj


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:35 PM Antonio  wrote:


Hi all,

As you know the current https://netbeans.apache.org was launched about
one year ago and has gone through different enhancements.

During this year we've added some wiki pages, some content, our download
pages are compliant with Apache requirements and we're also compliant
with all Apache Whimsy requirements [1].

Before starting integrating the tutorials [2] and before leaving the
incubator we may want to prepare some enhancements. These may range from
look and feel enhancements (banners, images, icons, typography
enhancements, etc.) to content enhancements (sidebars, banners, etc.),
or some repository enhancements (removing the 'bits.netbeans.org'
directory, for instance, as this is now handled elsewhere) or tooling
enhancements.

What do you think could be improved? Are there any volunteers for the
look and feel enhancements? Do we want to start a "web design contest"
much like the "NetBeans Logo Contest" we did for our logo? Do we want to
host a NetBeans blog there as well?

Ideas and request for enhancements would be most welcome. Let's brainstorm.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio

[1]
https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans

[2]

https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/tree/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs

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Re: How to migrate German wiki entry to Apache?

[Antonio]

Hi Peter,

Some quick instructions:


1.- Create "DevFaqCodeCompletionJavaAware.asciidoc" using AsciiDoc and 
english.


2.- Create a pull request adding the page to the 
incubator-netbeans-website wiki section (currently 
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/wiki)


3.- Wait and see.

Cheers,
Antonio

El 29/12/2018 a las 12:15, Peter Nabbefeld escribió:


Hello,

I've found a German wiki entry, which does not seem to have an English 
counterpart:

http://wiki.netbeans.org/DevFaqCodeCompletionJavaAware_DE

How is it possible to migrate it into new Apache infrastructure?

Another issue is about blog links in those "old" articles, as they often 
still refer to blogs.sun.com - the new Oracle structure has different 
paths. Would it be possible, to add those blogs to Apache, too, probably 
even using the original headline paths? This would make it easier to 
find those referenced blog entries.


Kind regards

Peter

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Hold tight: we're being slashdotted

[Antonio]

We're being slashdotted

https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/12/28/1417258/apache-netbeans-100-now-available

So hold tight and enjoy Geertjan's NetBeans 10 video, now embedded at 
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb100/nb100.html


Cheers,
Antonio

P.S.: For embedding youtube videos in asciidoc use the video macro like so:

video::the-youtube-video-identifier[youtube, title="The title"]

For instance:

video::O8cwpEY1OAQ[youtube, title="The Rough Guide to Apache NetBeans 10"]

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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0

[Antonio]

Hi Laszlo,

I think we all were honored you being our release manager. This release 
has been specially difficult, with unexpected roadblocks and required 
extra effort. Also thank you for volunteering as a 11.0 release manager.


Regarding voting candidates / release candidates, some other projects do 
have release candidates ([1]). I see the "voting" and "release" just a 
naming convention, something that is useful for us to communicate. I 
think the important stuff is having NetCAT helping us decide if 
something is ready or not. Naming is just a cosmetic thing.


+1 to adding BLOCKER to JIRA issues. In fact we could end up having a 
small dictionary for those. For instance, "BLOCKER" could mean to us 
"any reason (legal, technical or other) that may stop a release being 
published".


Finally I'd add another enhancement: storing all NetBeans releases as a 
simple XML/YAML file somewhere in the website (with links, etc.), and 
have the website-tools generate page for us automatically with proper 
links. Apache is very strict on what a release page can have (proper 
urls, mirrors/archive, links to keys and checksums, not including github 
links, etc.) we may want to automate that in the future.


Thanks again for making 10.0 a great release, and Happy New Year everybody,
Antonio


[1]
https://spark.apache.org/release-process.html


El 29/12/2018 a las 1:11, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

I was honored being your release manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 
10.0.


Thank you all, who contributed to this release and thank you for the 
guidance, correcting me whenever was needed!


When I applied as a volunteer, I thought it would be easier especially 
after Geertjan and Emilian did a really great job releasing and 
documented the process for 9.0. Special thanks for that! It has turned 
out it is not enough to simply replicating the previous process, but we 
needed to improve that.


I needed to learn a lot about the Apache way, and along the road I made 
a few mistakes, sometimes miscommunication, which could have been 
annoying or look unprofessional. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure I was not 
the best release manager for Apache NetBeans so far, I just hope I was 
good enough. As of the future, if the community trusts me I apply as a 
volunteer release manager for the upcoming Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.


I see two major things need some improvement:

I'm still not happy with the vote candidate naming convention. Even if 
we had no public non GA release during the 10.0 cycle, We really had an 
internal Beta 1 (10.0-vc1), Beta 2 (10.0-vc2) which we do not really had 
the intent for offer voting on PPMC. We had an Release Candidate 1 
(10.0-vc3), which almost ended up being released and at the end we had 
an RC3 (10.0 -vc5) which has been finally released as  Apache NetBeans 
(incubating) 10.0. I can live with that, though it is a bit strange to 
assemble a vote candidate, knowing that the best vote you can give on 
that is a -1. So first we need to decide if we would like to have public 
betas and release candidates in the future or not.


After last minute changes: We had a short lived vc4, as of vc3 has been 
voted down on IPMC level having binary files in the source package. 
Suddenly a handful of serious issue has appeared. I do not know how can 
we help on this. There is only one thing I would add here. Please do not 
hesitate mark every legal related concerns as BLOCKER in JIRA, even if 
it is not a BLOCKER at all, we can't really let legal issues flying 
under our radar.


I was overall happy with the responsiveness of the community on the issues.

I think Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 is a great release!

Once again, Thank you for all!

Laszlo Kishalmi

Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0

P.S.: Constructive feedback on the my work and the process are more than 
Welcome!



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Website enhancement ideas

[Antonio]

Hi all,

As you know the current https://netbeans.apache.org was launched about 
one year ago and has gone through different enhancements.


During this year we've added some wiki pages, some content, our download 
pages are compliant with Apache requirements and we're also compliant 
with all Apache Whimsy requirements [1].


Before starting integrating the tutorials [2] and before leaving the 
incubator we may want to prepare some enhancements. These may range from 
look and feel enhancements (banners, images, icons, typography 
enhancements, etc.) to content enhancements (sidebars, banners, etc.), 
or some repository enhancements (removing the 'bits.netbeans.org' 
directory, for instance, as this is now handled elsewhere) or tooling 
enhancements.


What do you think could be improved? Are there any volunteers for the 
look and feel enhancements? Do we want to start a "web design contest" 
much like the "NetBeans Logo Contest" we did for our logo? Do we want to 
host a NetBeans blog there as well?


Ideas and request for enhancements would be most welcome. Let's brainstorm.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio

[1]
https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans

[2]
https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/tree/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs

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Re: Resurrect: Summary of How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

[Antonio]

Gavin McDonald says they'll tell us if there're any traffic problems, 
and that 9.0 is in the archive, and that we should use that.


http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0/

Cheers,
Antonio

El 27/12/2018 a las 14:26, Antonio escribió:

Hi all,

I'm asking at infra.chat if we should use the archive or 
netbeans-vm.apache.org.


Cheers,
Antonio


El 27/12/2018 a las 9:46, Emilian Bold escribió:

That's no questions. My only concern is where to store.


We store on Apache infra and if it's too much for them we ask them for
suggestions or new servers.

I understand how you computed but for older nbms I don't believe we
will have even a fraction of those maximum downloads.

--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:44 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
 wrote:


On 12/26/18 11:23 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:

Considering the are no updates, why would we even serve the nbms? To
older 8.2 installs or what? Won't those older installs request the 10
nbms anyhow? So, I don't see how those nbms would get so many
downloads.


I've just really calculated the worst case scenario for the download
traffic:

  1. Number of request per month on updates.xml.gz is 22 - 25 thousand I
 took 25000
  2. NetBeans 10.0 nbm-s take more space (118Mb) than 9.0, so I
 calculated with 120Mb

So if everyone would download the whole nbm structure whenever it hits
the updates.xml.gz, then we could have 25000 * 120 Mb = 3 Tb per month
download traffic.


We can put the smaller updates.xml.gz anywhere, it won't make any
impact on bandwidth.

I would not use any 3rd party solution unless Apache infra tell us so.
The one thing Apache provides to projects is infrastructure.

Well, Apache provides more than infra, however that infra not necessary
designed for a project like us., that are producing 650+ artifacts,
weighs ~500 Mb with every release.


I say we pick the simplest solution: use archive.apache.org for
everything. It will serve only the updates.xml.gz in reality and if
they do get too much traffic infra will let us know and we figure
something out then.

Well, that's might be the easiest solution, still option 2 or 3 would be
easy to implement as well and clean up our project layout on
dist.apache.org.


BTW, I still believe we have to create, sign and store the nbms, even
if they are only convenience binaries.

That's no questions. My only concern is where to store.


--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and 
more!


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:11 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
 wrote:

Dear all,

I have to bring up this old item again. According to the Apache 
release

processes, I'd need to archive the current 9.0 release from the site.
this means that our 9.0 NBM-s are going to be removed from there as
well. The files are going to be available on archive.apache.org 
which is
not mirrored. Only the most recent release are supposed to be out 
on the

release and their mirrors.

This means we need to find some place to our 9.0 nbms. I also won't 
mind

if we could move away storing our nbms, "officially" (there are no
official binary releases, yet) on some other place than Apache dist
infrastructure. It's a bit weird to sign and upload 650+ binaries with
each and every release. So let's go back to square one.

   1. We can change the redirection to the Apache archive site. 
That is
  not mirrored, and initially we would put a real traffic on 
there.

   2. We can serve the nbm-s from our netbeans-vm.
  Checked the stats we get ~25000 requests a month on 
updates.xml.gz
  if we'd transfer all the update center (~120 Mb, for NetBeans 
10.0)
  all the modules with each request for updates.xml.gz our 
transfer
  would be ~3 Tb. So we would definitely fit into the 3-5 
Tb/per month
  usage limit. That would be actually much less, as this is a 
worst

  case scenario.
   3. Search for a free third party solution.
  I'd try Bintray, we can get 10 Gb space and CDN, so it is pretty
  reliable, the only concern is the 1 Tb of network limit per 
month.
  Unfortunately I only can guess that the 3 Tb is really 
exaggerated.

  All the log files I've found do not include the actual download
  statistics of our nbm-s
   4. Something else?

I can't archive the current 9.0 till this thing is decided.

On 4/10/18 11:39 PM, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

In order to understand this long thread (about NETBEANS-330 [1]) I
tried to summarize it. Please review and send corrections & questions
as appropriate.

Kind regards,
Antonio

== Objectives

Host the NetBeans 9.0 Update Center on Apache infrastructure.

== Constraints/facts/options

- We cannot host it on a website due to bandwidth requirements of 3-5
Tb/month.

- We must use the Apache Mirror system and their "closer

Re: Resurrect: Summary of How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

[Antonio]

Hi all,

I'm asking at infra.chat if we should use the archive or 
netbeans-vm.apache.org.


Cheers,
Antonio


El 27/12/2018 a las 9:46, Emilian Bold escribió:

That's no questions. My only concern is where to store.


We store on Apache infra and if it's too much for them we ask them for
suggestions or new servers.

I understand how you computed but for older nbms I don't believe we
will have even a fraction of those maximum downloads.

--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:44 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
 wrote:


On 12/26/18 11:23 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:

Considering the are no updates, why would we even serve the nbms? To
older 8.2 installs or what? Won't those older installs request the 10
nbms anyhow? So, I don't see how those nbms would get so many
downloads.


I've just really calculated the worst case scenario for the download
traffic:

  1. Number of request per month on updates.xml.gz is 22 - 25 thousand I
 took 25000
  2. NetBeans 10.0 nbm-s take more space (118Mb) than 9.0, so I
 calculated with 120Mb

So if everyone would download the whole nbm structure whenever it hits
the updates.xml.gz, then we could have 25000 * 120 Mb = 3 Tb per month
download traffic.


We can put the smaller updates.xml.gz anywhere, it won't make any
impact on bandwidth.

I would not use any 3rd party solution unless Apache infra tell us so.
The one thing Apache provides to projects is infrastructure.

Well, Apache provides more than infra, however that infra not necessary
designed for a project like us., that are producing 650+ artifacts,
weighs ~500 Mb with every release.


I say we pick the simplest solution: use archive.apache.org for
everything. It will serve only the updates.xml.gz in reality and if
they do get too much traffic infra will let us know and we figure
something out then.

Well, that's might be the easiest solution, still option 2 or 3 would be
easy to implement as well and clean up our project layout on
dist.apache.org.


BTW, I still believe we have to create, sign and store the nbms, even
if they are only convenience binaries.

That's no questions. My only concern is where to store.


--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:11 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
 wrote:

Dear all,

I have to bring up this old item again. According to the Apache release
processes, I'd need to archive the current 9.0 release from the site.
this means that our 9.0 NBM-s are going to be removed from there as
well. The files are going to be available on archive.apache.org which is
not mirrored. Only the most recent release are supposed to be out on the
release and their mirrors.

This means we need to find some place to our 9.0 nbms. I also won't mind
if we could move away storing our nbms, "officially" (there are no
official binary releases, yet) on some other place than Apache dist
infrastructure. It's a bit weird to sign and upload 650+ binaries with
each and every release. So let's go back to square one.

   1. We can change the redirection to the Apache archive site. That is
  not mirrored, and initially we would put a real traffic on there.
   2. We can serve the nbm-s from our netbeans-vm.
  Checked the stats we get ~25000 requests a month on updates.xml.gz
  if we'd transfer all the update center (~120 Mb, for NetBeans 10.0)
  all the modules with each request for updates.xml.gz our transfer
  would be ~3 Tb. So we would definitely fit into the 3-5 Tb/per month
  usage limit. That would be actually much less, as this is a worst
  case scenario.
   3. Search for a free third party solution.
  I'd try Bintray, we can get 10 Gb space and CDN, so it is pretty
  reliable, the only concern is the 1 Tb of network limit per month.
  Unfortunately I only can guess that the 3 Tb is really exaggerated.
  All the log files I've found do not include the actual download
  statistics of our nbm-s
   4. Something else?

I can't archive the current 9.0 till this thing is decided.

On 4/10/18 11:39 PM, Antonio wrote:

Hi all,

In order to understand this long thread (about NETBEANS-330 [1]) I
tried to summarize it. Please review and send corrections & questions
as appropriate.

Kind regards,
Antonio

== Objectives

Host the NetBeans 9.0 Update Center on Apache infrastructure.

== Constraints/facts/options

- We cannot host it on a website due to bandwidth requirements of 3-5
Tb/month.

- We must use the Apache Mirror system and their "closer.cgi,
closer.lua" cgi scripts [2] to select the closest mirror to the user.
This script can either redirect directly to the closest binary file
(ready to download), or return a JSON response with a list of closest
mirrors.

- Distributing through the Apache Mirror system requires a proper
release, with voting, 

Re: WebSite links

[Antonio]

Hi Laszlo,

Please feel free to review & merge 
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/94


Cheers,
Antonio

El 27/12/2018 a las 10:05, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

1. The MacOS bundle for 10.0 might not be available, we may remove the
    link for the time being, in order to reduce confusion.
2. I've just tagged the new release with a tag 10.0 (same as 10.0-vc5
    just looks better)
3. the URL for the KEYS file is:
https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/KEYS




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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 released

[Antonio]

Congratulations everybody!!

El 27/12/2018 a las 6:46, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache
NetBeans (incubating) 10.0.

Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 constitutes all but the enterprise 
cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the 
NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well 
as all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy 
features of Apache NetBeans.


In short, Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 is a full IDE for Java SE, 
PHP and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.


Read more on our download page:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb100/nb100.html

New & Noteworthy features of the 10.0 Release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10.0+New+and+Noteworthy 



See the below for the donation status of features that have not been
donated or included in Apache builds yet, i.e., are not part of Apache
NetBeans (incubating) 10.0, e.g., features for working with Java EE, 
C/C++, and more:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Work is being done on bringing netbeans.org to Apache. In the
meantime, refer to the below for all details related to Apache
NetBeans:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS

Laszlo Kishalmi
on behalf of Apache NetBeans PPMC


Apache NetBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator.
Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further
review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision
making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other
successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a
reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does
indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.




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Re: Preparing release 10.0, final steps

[Antonio]

> 5. Update the website, we have a PR-for that, which needs to be 
finalized.


Hi Laszlo,

For the web anouncement, I've updated the PPMC vote & results links, the 
git tags and the IPMC vote link. Release date is now 2018-12-27 in the 
web pages. A squash&merge would be good enough to upload to the website.


Regarding javadoc publishing please let me know whare the zip files of 
the javadoc are hosted at. If none then let me know as well. I'll got 
those published in the beta version of bits.netbeans.org. More news on 
that after the Xmas season.


Kind regards & Merry Christmas,
Antonio


El 24/12/2018 a las 17:47, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:

Dear all,

So far we are having the necessary 3 +1 votes on IPMC vote thread which 
shall be open for at least 4 hours from now. So if there would be no 
objection there we would be ready for the release.


Please help me to collect the final parts, needs to be done around the 
release.


Right now I'm aware of the following:

1. I need to move the release files from svn staging to the release area.
2. Probably shall wait 1 day till these files get synchronized over the
    mirrors.
3. Update the distribution update center with the new nbm modules.
4. Upload Snap convenience binary to snapcraft.io and make the package
    as public.
5. Update the website, we have a PR-for that, which needs to be finalized.
6. Send out release announcement.
7. I need to archive the old 9.0 release.
8. Update the Release Management Wiki pages
9. Give and request feedback on being Release Manager for Apache
    NetBeans (incubating) 10.0

There are some other things I'm thinking of, but do not know the details 
yet:


  * The JavaDoc generation got ironed out, we shall generate (I guess
    along with the 9.0 as that is missing as well) and upload it to ?
  * Telling the thruth I have not really followed the maven release
    artifact creation and store thread. All I knew that with the
    netbeans.org domain donation happened we can use that as group id
    and probably have the intent to upload our jars to maven central. I
    have no details how, where and when shall we do that.

So, please review this, help me if you find some gaps, or any additional 
info, requests etc!


Thank you for your support!

I really hope, together, we made a really nice Christmas gift this year!


Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of
Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0




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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]

[Antonio]

+1 for VC5.

Congratulations everybody! Thanks, Laszlo! Merry Christmas everybody!

El 18/12/2018 a las 17:18, John Brock escribió:

+1 for vc5 release.  Testing on latest win10 version.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:38 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Dear all,

Please vote on our 5th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache
NetBeans (incubating).

If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started
ongene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
release this version.

Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise
cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the
NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as
all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy
features of Apache NetBeans.

In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, PHP
and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.

Build artifacts available here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/

This voting is on the following artifact:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-source.zip

Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are
the same as these:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/README.md

SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5

KEYS file:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS

Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc5 :
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/10.0-vc5

Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the
rat-exclusions.txt file:


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt

Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:


https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/380/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt

Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
(unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):


https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-bin.zip

Release specific wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10

How (and what) to try out the release:

1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files,
 save the:
platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar
3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file
4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the
build process.






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