Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
On 4/12/19 11:15 AM, pe...@webparity.net wrote: > NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting Is there a good reason for this entire thread to be cross-posted? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: JavaFX debug
On 4/11/19 3:30 AM, Luff,Chris wrote: > Works for me… > > > debug > > jar > > > process-classes > org.codehaus.mojo:exec-maven-plugin:1.5.0:exec > > > > -agentlib:jdwp=transport=dt_socket,server=n,address=${jpda.address} > -classpath %classpath com.mypackage.MainApp > java > true > > > > You’re going to need to share some additional information - JDK, NetBeans > version etc. Doesn't work for me. JDK 11.0.2 NetBeans 11.0 Debian "buster" Linux Sample project: https://gitlab.com/Cenbe/fxmaven symptoms: Ignores "suspend=y" and "jpda.address" in jdwp settings, breakpoints not hit. Trying to attach debugger at address shown in debugger output results in a hang requiring NetBeans restart. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?
On 4/5/19 6:02 PM, Eirik Bakke wrote: > There are over 3000 bitmap icon images in the NetBeans codebase. > htps://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/icons.html > > THE QUESTION: Does anyone know who actually designed and drew these icons? I remember a mailing list discussion back in "the old days" stating that the color scheme had to do with the likelihood of color blindness (which is higher than one might think, especially among males). -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans UserDir vs. Releases
On 4/4/19 6:39 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > I would like to ask your opinion about changing the user and cache-dir > with every release. > I'm bringing this up for two + one reasons: > > 1. The user experience of the upgrades would be more seamless. > > 2. Avoid code change required to check the previous release folder. > > +1 Abandoned older user and cache dirs are just kept floating around. 3. Multiple cache dirs == multiple Maven indexes: 2.0G/home/cenbe/.cache/netbeans/11.0/mavenindex -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Apache Roadshow Chicago
Are there any plans for NetBeans-related talks at the Apache Roadshow in Chicago on 13-14 May? https://www.apachecon.com/chiroadshow19/index.html -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]
On 3/21/19 2:41 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > This is our 4th voting candidate for the 11.0 release of Apache > NetBeans. This time everything went through my smoke tests, so let's > vote on it. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project
On 3/11/19 5:47 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache NetBeans should > graduate to a Top Level Project +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
[RESULT ] [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
After being open for six days, this vote is complete. I count 44 +1 votes (25 binding), no 0 and no -1. By unanimous vote, Geertjan Wielenga will be the PMC chair of NetBeans upon our graduation to a top-level Apache project. > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the > best choice to complete that process. > > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair > > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
On 3/4/19 9:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:29 PM Glenn Holmer > wrote: >> >> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC >> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation... > > I was initially surprised to see this appear out of the blue but there > was a prior discussion here a few days ago indeed [1]. Yes, the question was whether it would be unseemly to have an Oracle employee as PMC chair. I think there's clear agreement that that's not the case. > In that thread both Glenn and Geertjan were nominated and I understand > Glenn's +1 for Geertjan in this thread as him agreeing to step down > for now. Yes, that's correct. > (sorry if this sounds pedantic, I just wanted to avoid the impression > that people can just be proposed without a prior "democratic debate" > ;-) And speaking of pedantism :) how long should a vote like this stay open? It's my first time proposing a vote. Is it 72 hours? Then what happens, must we notify mentors somehow, or is posting of the vote results enough? Should I make a voting results post with count of the votes (and must only IPMC votes be counted, or all of them)? http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=netbeans -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
On 3/1/19 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the > best choice to complete that process. > > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair > > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
[VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the best choice to complete that process. As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
javadoc URL
When I ctrl-space to get Javadoc and click "Show documentation in external web browser" from the popup, the URL is wrong. For example, for the Position class, the URL it tries to use is: https://download.java.net/java/GA/jdk12/docs/api/javax/swing/text/Position.html whereas the correct URL is: https://download.java.net/java/GA/jdk12/docs/api/java.desktop/javax/swing/text/Position.html (note tne module name). Is this a known issue? I'm seeing it with both JDK11 and JDK12. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
useSystemAAFontSettings
What's the reasoning behind not having this on by default in etc/netbeans.conf? Does it work well on some OS and not on others? In Linux (Debian testing/KDE Plasma), NetBeans looks just awful without it. -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair. I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of the responsibilities can be found here: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
On 1/25/19 9:51 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0 -1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03
On 1/25/19 9:51 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03 +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
On 1/25/19 9:50 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11 -1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: JavaDB?
On 10/24/2018 12:44 PM, John Kostaras wrote: > The reason I posed this question is because I 'm to modify (rather create) > the SQL Query Profiling test case > <http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/suite/2254/v/1> which > is empty! I thought to use a JavaDB for the test case like it is done in > the Database Test Specification > <http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/specification/389/v/2>. > This would avoid download a driver for a db etc. But now that JavaDB is > gone, need to see what to do. > > I notice that drivers for MySQL, Oracle OCI & Thin client and Postgresql > are included by default, but what about drivers of other DBs (SQLite, > HSQLDB, MariaDB, Apace Derby)? License issues? MySQL and Oracle aren't included, you get prompted to download them. Here are some references: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/294 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-170 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NETCAT 10.0
On 10/27/2018 09:51 AM, John Kostaras wrote: > I know that the schedule > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+10.0+Schedule> > is tight, but I have two questions: > >1. Why "[API Support] Ant-based NetBeans Suite and Module Projects >Operations ><http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/specification/19/v/2>" >Test Suite is not part of full testing I don't know, I see there's a test spec for it but it's not included in the test run. If you'd like to go through the spec anyway and report your findings, that would be great. ><http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/run/29/v/2>? >2. Need to update SQL Query Profiling ><http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/suite/2254/v/1> Test >Case but it is "Closed for Editing". Who can open it? I wasn't even aware that anyone had written a test spec for this (I added an empty placeholder for it during the last NetCAT, as I recall). Since that's part of a larger spec and someone is testing a different part, it's closed for edits. The sections still being tested are IDE profiling and Heapwalker, both by Michal Owsiak. Michal, can you complete these tests to open the spec for John's edits? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Fwd: project files (Netbeans!) for netbeans dev
On 10/20/2018 06:25 AM, Jonathan Bergh wrote: > 2) whats the easiest / recommended way to open the cloned repository in for > dev of NB in NB itself? i'd rather set it up the same way everyone else has > it set up. http://netbeans.apache.org/participate/submit-pr.html (scroll down to "Contributing to Apache NetBeans in github") Then just open the various modules that make up NetBeans. See also: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment (and note that it has to be built under JDK8). -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Possible to add smooths scrolling to NB 10.0?
Hello NetCATters, If you haven't seen it, this came up on the dev list: On 10/15/2018 11:17 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > The real question is how it is affect the current NetCat process. If the > NetCat people fine with this cherry pick, then I'm good to go with this. Can the people who've completed some editor testing have a look and make sure this doesn't introduce any regressions? And those who reviewed the test spec, does this need any additional wording to verify that the feature works properly? The JIRA link below explains what's being changed. > On 10/15/2018 03:12 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: >> in General I thought, that this feature: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-49 went into the NB >> 10.0 branch but it didn’t. Is it possible to cherry pick it anyway to >> bring it up into NB 10.0 or not? Here is the PR for it: >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/881 it was still >> merged so it Needs a Cherry Pick. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: JIRA question
On 10/07/2018 06:54 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > What does it mean when you try to attach a file (e.g. a stack trace) to > an issue and get the message "JIRA could not attach the file as there > was a missing token. Please try attaching the file again"? I was logged > in to JIRA when I saw this. Never mind, it worked just now. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
NETBEANS-1359
I filed issue 1359 (self-profiling hangs when stopped under JDK 11): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1359 and I wonder if someone could help me figure it out. I traced it by running NetBeans under the debugger: SelfSamplerAction.actionPerformed() creates an org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler when self-profiling is started, which creates a SamplesOutputStream. When self-profiling is stopped, Sampler.stop() gets called (superclass method), which calls SamplesOutputStream.close(). This calls writeToStream() on each sample, which fails as soon as toCompositeData() is called (line 178 in SamplesOutputStream). Sampler.java doesn't catch the resulting exception (line 239), so the snapshot save hangs. Some googling brought me to this issue, which has a similar stacktrace: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-882 but I'm over my head at this point. Does anyone understand what's going on with toCompositeData()? 1359 has a repro case, does that help? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
another JIRA question (for NetCAT)
What guidelines should NetCAT users have for creating issues in JIRA during testing? Do we still have pages showing what the priority should be, which component to use, etc.? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
JIRA question
What does it mean when you try to attach a file (e.g. a stack trace) to an issue and get the message "JIRA could not attach the file as there was a missing token. Please try attaching the file again"? I was logged in to JIRA when I saw this. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
[profiler] Profile the IDE
Does anybody know how to get this to work? It looks like you're supposed to be able to click on the "Profile the IDE" button (in the Performance toolbar), do some work in the IDE, then click it again to "Stop IDE Profiling and Take a Snapshot". But what I'm seeing is a "Saving snapshot" progress bar in the NetBeans status area on the bottom that never goes anywhere and has its "show output" and "Cancel" context items greyed out. If that's supposed to work, I'll just file an issue. Or is that not the way to use it...? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: AW: NetBeans 10.0 has been branched!
On 10/01/2018 08:25 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: > Yes we Need such page. We had it for all other Releases under Oracle > and we Need it here too. We had it for NB 9.0 too. Do we need both New and Noteworthy and also "Dedicated Wiki for Apache NetBeans 10 features" with separate pages linked from here? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > Von: Glenn Holmer > Shall we do a New and Noteworthy page for NetBeans 10? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans 10.0 has been branched!
On 10/01/2018 08:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Absolutely agree. Here it is, fill it out with all the relevant features > and fixes: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:08 PM Christian Lenz > wrote: >> I don’t know whether we had a proper list of resolved Bugs, added >> new Features for NB 9, but the users are want to know what is all >> inside of NB 10. I know the page of the new PHP Features, I already >> read it, but for those Bugs and Features, that are added, except >> from JDK 10/11 and PHP 7.*, we Need a list of all those Things. So >> IMHO, all of the Features/Bug fixes, that are coming with NB 10, >> the Tickets Need a fixed Version for that to make a list later to >> Show the users what is inside of it. Shall we do a New and Noteworthy page for NetBeans 10? And btw, is it NetBeans 10 or NetBeans 10.0? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Invitation to join the Apache NetBeans 10 Community Acceptance Testing program
Hello NetBeans users, We hope to release NetBeans 10 in November: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 and that means... it's NetCAT time! https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+10.0+Schedule Anyone to would like to help test the next release is invited to join the NetCAT program for our next release. Instructions for how to join can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+10.0+Participants and if you experience any difficulties joining us, you can post on the NetCAT mailing list for help. Everyone should join a "tribe", which focuses on testing a specific part of NetBeans, using test specifications that can be found here: http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/specifications We'll be adding test runs for the next release shortly. Please have a look at the test specs as soon as you join, as an important part of testing is keeping these specifications up to date. We look forward to seeing lots of participation in NetCAT again. Please join us to help make this the best NetBeans release ever! -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal
On 09/25/2018 08:34 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > Hello NetBeans community, > > the November release of Apache NetBeans is quickly approaching so I > would like to propose a schedule for the NetCAT 10.0 program [1]. > Release drivers for version 10.0 are JDK 11 features and PHP support. > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+10.0+Schedule > > Please take a look at this plan and share any concerns you might > have. I am specifically interested in opinion of Laszlo Kishalmi - our > Apache NetBeans 10.0 release manager. If no major objections arise, I > will officially start NetCAT 10.0 program on Thursday - 9/27. Looks good! Let's make sure we spend enough effort on updating the test specs. I think it would be helpful if active developers had a look at them too (even if they're not taking part in NetCAT), so we can make sure that they reflect NetBeans' current functionality. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=93325174 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NETBEANS-870
On 09/24/2018 12:29 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > you can continue pushing changes to your local branch, and GitHub will > continue to include those changes into the PR. > > So no need to delete the existing PR. Thanks, good to know. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
NETBEANS-870
On 09/24/2018 09:12 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > I've submitted a PR to update the PostgreSQL driver: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/900 > > Since this is my first PR, would someone please review it to ensure that > I've submitted it properly? I see the Travis build failed because "ide/db.drivers/external/postgresql-42.2.5-license.txt contains a license body which does not match that in nbbuild/licenses/BSD-postgresql". Looks like I missed something in VerifyLibsAndLicenses.java. What is the correct way to fix this? I copied the license straight from the Postgres JDBC driver site. Must the one in nbbuild be replaced as well? What is the reason for having another copy there, is it to do with Rat? When it's fixed, what's the proper way to correct the PR? Delete it and create a new one? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
NETBEANS-870
I've submitted a PR to update the PostgreSQL driver: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/900 Since this is my first PR, would someone please review it to ensure that I've submitted it properly? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
downloaded binaries questions
Some questions about downloading external binaries at build time: 1) Where is the format of the external/*-license.txt file documented (e.g. ide/db.drivers/external/postgresql-9.4.1209-license.txt)? 2) Do I understand correctly that whether a binary is downloaded from Maven or from hg.netbeans.org (Ant property "binaries.server") depends on whether the entry in external/binaries-list can be parsed as a Maven coordinate by org.netbeans.nbbuild.extlibs.DownloadBinaries.java? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
build error
I'm trying to build the current NetBeans sources from scratch, but get this error: Could not download D6330851B59C33A3A8D98C86FF438F23DD3B4267-ant-misc-1.10.4.zip from http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries/ ... Connection reset Is it just me? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
"Other channels"
On 08/05/2018 08:25 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Click the bottom of the page on the link to the source. Thanks, I made a one-line PR. First time doing this, so somebody please let me know if it's not done right. >>> On Sunday, August 5, 2018, Glenn Holmer >> wrote: >>> >>>> On this page: >>>> >>>> http://netbeans.apache.org/community/mailing-lists.html >>>> >>>> we have lists of ways for NetBeans users to communicate. Under "Other >>>> Channels" is listed Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Slack, GitHub, and JIRA. >>>> I'd like to see the Freenode IRC channel added there, what's the process >>>> for that? Do I submit a PR for that web page? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
"Other channels"
On 08/05/2018 08:13 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Yup, exactly. Where can I find the source? > On Sunday, August 5, 2018, Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> On this page: >> >> http://netbeans.apache.org/community/mailing-lists.html >> >> we have lists of ways for NetBeans users to communicate. Under "Other >> Channels" is listed Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Slack, GitHub, and JIRA. >> I'd like to see the Freenode IRC channel added there, what's the process >> for that? Do I submit a PR for that web page? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
"Other channels"
On this page: http://netbeans.apache.org/community/mailing-lists.html we have lists of ways for NetBeans users to communicate. Under "Other Channels" is listed Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Slack, GitHub, and JIRA. I'd like to see the Freenode IRC channel added there, what's the process for that? Do I submit a PR for that web page? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Interested in virtual meetups to discuss and synchronize?
On 07/31/2018 07:18 AM, Paul Franz wrote: > Actually, I would recommend creating a separate channel like ansible. > They created a channel called #ansible-meeting . Sure, that's what we did for the profiler tribe in NetCAT. Just pointing out that NetBeans has a presence in the old-school world of IRC :) -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Interested in virtual meetups to discuss and synchronize?
On 07/31/2018 06:58 AM, Paul Franz wrote: > Of course, we could go old school like Ansible and use an IRC channel > on Freenode. +1, there's already a #netbeans channel on freenode :) -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]
On 07/08/2018 04:40 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)! +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
NetBeans 9.0 VC2 build artefacts uploaded to dist.apache.org for NetCAT
On 07/05/2018 07:34 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Build artefacts for NetCAT are available here: Imported 8.2 settings, installed nb-javac, everything seems very smooth. Worked on a Swing program under JDK10 for about an hour, debugged, profiled, gitted, , no problems. The only thing that really stuck out is the splash during updates ("updating... turning on modules..."); the font that shows those messages is infinitesimally small. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list
On 06/26/2018 06:47 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: >> I think this discussion should take place on the NetCAT mailing >> list only -- and personally I'm not sure that it is the most urgent >> discussion at this point. > > I think this further proves it's a bad idea to have multiple mailing > lists. We aren't even capable of having a discussion involving the > whole community! It seems very odd that there isn't traffic about this on the NetCAT list... I guess that strengthens the argument for merging the two lists. NetCATters, if you aren't subscribed to the dev mailing list, at least have a look at some of the threads re. NetCAT (best to click "view as flat thread, sort by date"): https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/afa296b2564f811f872501d1729626eab54be56295d944a906257499@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f64411c5882c299a98e242a5505fc926e1e078f32e00f2761c2d571a@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Release Criteria: WAIVER bugs
On 06/24/2018 02:38 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Also, the NetCAT team seems to be split into sub-groups called > 'tribes' and they have a 'leader' which seems to be the only one that > 'can label a bug with WAIVER tag'. > > This seems rather against the Apache way, as you either are a > committer or not (or part of the PMC or not). Although 'after > reaching consensus within his/her tribe' makes it sound like there's > a vote going on, we cannot restrict voting to a subgroup under > Apache, afaik; everybody is allowed to vote. In practice, it is (or should be) a discussion within the tribe to see which issues should be *proposed* as blockers. Tribe leaders are mainly responsible for dividing up the work of going through the test specs and making sure tribe members are on schedule. > The 'Community Acceptance survey' is interesting as it seems to allow > non-binding votes to block a release. This sounds interesting, but > it's also not the Apache way. Of course, if many non-binding votes > point toward something bad, we can decide to take that into account, > but it's not automatic. I agree with what you're saying here; we're in a new world now. The PMC is the body that must make decisions about whether to release; NetCAT should be seen as an advisory body. Just as in the past, when NetCAT reports a bug, committers may clarify or override the severity. As a long-time NetCAT team member, I'm certainly not trying to minimize its importance. If NetBeans users feel strongly enough to participate in NetCAT (it's a lot of work to go through those test specs!) and make a point about an issue, it should be taken very seriously, and the role of NetCAT in the release process should be clearly defined. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
How to participate in Apache NetBeans without a GitHub account?
On 06/13/2018 12:01 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > This works, it seems: > git clone https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-netbeans.git Thanks, I was able to use that to clone the Apache git sources into my local instance of GitLab Community Edition: https://www.lyonlabs.org/netbeans-gitlab-1.png https://www.lyonlabs.org/netbeans-gitlab-2.png -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: reviews.apache.org - git integration?
On 06/13/2018 01:04 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > Interesting to notice (via GStreamer list) that GNOME and FreeDesktop are > moving to providing their own GitLab instances. I wonder if Apache will > take that route at some point? https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/ "GitLab Ultimate is self-hosted, whereas GitLab Gold is our SaaS offering hosted on GitLab.com." Of course, the question remains: what if some people want to use GitLab, some GitHub, and some the command line? And what if something happens to GitLab or GitHub? Those are not easy questions. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
How to participate in Apache NetBeans without a GitHub account?
On 06/13/2018 08:34 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Review Board for code reviews is working for NetBeans! > > I've just created the first review: > https://reviews.apache.org/r/67570/ > > I invite everyone to give this a try and join the 'netbeans' group on > reviews.apache.org Excellent. >> On 7 June 2018 11:59 AM, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch wrote: >> >>>>> I think we need to plan a separate contribution workflow >>>>> without GitHub (see my other thread 'How to participate in >>>>> Apache NetBeans without a GitHub account?'). >>>>> >>>>> Right now we are tied to GitHub and it's impossible to be >>>>> involved in anything without jumping onto GitHub. >>>> >>>> Not sure if (or why) it is impossible to be involved without >>>> GitHub. AFAIK anyone can subscribe to this mailing list, >>>> checkout from the Git repo on Apache: >>> >>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git >>> >>>> and send patches to this mailing list. What's the correct way to clone that? cenbe@greyhand:/mnt/common/temp > git clone https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git ./incubator-netbeans Cloning into './incubator-netbeans'... fatal: repository 'https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git/' not found -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: How to participate in Apache NetBeans without a GitHub account?
On 06/06/2018 08:13 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > GitHub should just be one venue where we engage with the community > and contributors but we should have other workflows in place, > preferably that depend on Apache infrastructure only. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
On 06/05/2018 06:45 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > Have to say I'm a little perplexed at all the negativity surrounding the > news on this. > Yes, there will obviously be some MS tie-ins, be it Azure or Visual Studio > (Code), etc. That's exactly what people are concerned about. As Thomas Wuerthinger of Oracle Labs tweeted, "After this acquisition GitHub could lose its status as a neutral open source collaboration platform." -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Postgres JDBC driver
On 05/29/2018 02:33 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2018, 08:16 -0500 schrieb Glenn Holmer: >> >> I'd like to work on this. I'll have lots of questions, but I want to >> learn the NetBeans internals. I'm studying "NetBeans Platform for >> Beginners" and the API docs on netbeans.org. >> >> I had a look at NETBEANS-170 (referenced by 870): >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-170 >> >> If Postgres is the last driver still bundled with NetBeans, are the >> above steps even worth the effort? >> > > Eirik already pointed out other drivers we might consider to bundle. > Apache Derby would be another one. > > For the "add drivers" part it might be worth looking at the PR, that > removed MySQL: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/294 > > The changes that were done in db.drivers would need to be reversed for > adding drivers. OK, I'll attack it from that direction, then. I'd already had a look at that PR. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Postgres JDBC driver
On 05/27/2018 02:21 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hey Glenn, > > Am Montag, den 23.04.2018, 06:22 -0500 schrieb Glenn Holmer: >> The Postgres driver shipped with NetBeans is several years old. Any >> chance that could be updated for 9.0? > > I'm not sure when I'll have time to look at this. I doubt, that it will > make it into Netbeans 9.0. I opened NETBEANS-870 to track this: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-870 > > From my POV this might be a good issue to work on as an outsider. What > needs to be done: > > - get an updated driver > - check the license > - update the db.drivers module with the new binary and updated license > - get it reviewed and merged > > If anyone wants to do it, I'll review. I'd like to work on this. I'll have lots of questions, but I want to learn the NetBeans internals. I'm studying "NetBeans Platform for Beginners" and the API docs on netbeans.org. I had a look at NETBEANS-170 (referenced by 870): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-170 If Postgres is the last driver still bundled with NetBeans, are the above steps even worth the effort? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Vote for Apache NetBeans RC1 on the incubator mailing list
On 05/26/2018 04:19 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > We have insufficient votes on the Apache NetBeans (incubating) RC1 > release. > > So, I encourage everyone to join the gene...@incubator.netbeans.org > mailing list and add their non-binding vote to our thread Done. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Vote for Apache NetBeans RC1 on the incubator mailing list
On 05/26/2018 04:19 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > We have insufficient votes on the Apache NetBeans (incubating) RC1 release. > > So, I encourage everyone to join the gene...@incubator.netbeans.org mailing > list and add their non-binding vote to our thread: > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/13af566fb266308d0a91c3e860d22fb1766464df9fe94126d74084fb@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E First of all, it's "gene...@incubator.apache.org", yes? I'm confused by what's going on here. Have the mentors voted against the release, or have not enough mentors voted in favor? Is there consensus among them on what is keeping us from getting a positive result? And why is there so much shilly-shallying about over build systems here when we have bigger fish to fry? How can the average non-committer help to get a release out the door? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NB 9.0 Splash Screen
On 05/21/2018 06:58 AM, Josh Juneau wrote: > Love the new splash screen...great work! +1 Personal preference aside, I'm concerned that there aren't more choices. We've got the coders, we've got the infrastructure experts, we've got the testers... but do we have enough artists? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1
On 05/17/2018 09:35 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1! +1 (non-binding) Built from source and sanity-tested. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans 2018W19 Weekly Report
On 05/14/2018 01:56 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Let's see this week in numbers! This is really nice to see. > Non WEAVED Critical Bugs: 16 (-2) > > Some of the criticals I'm sure can be WEAVED Did you mean: WAIVED -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans Day UK and podcast idea
On 04/28/2018 11:36 AM, Efrem Mc wrote: > Thanks for sharing. I am in the USA and this was great to watch some > of the casting from Twitter. +1, you could just feel the enthusiasm. NetBeans has a bright future! -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
which build?
What's the difference between the builds from incubator-netbeans-linux and those from incubator-netbeans-release? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Postgres JDBC driver
The Postgres driver shipped with NetBeans is several years old. Any chance that could be updated for 9.0? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
latest build download
This page: http://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html has a link "Jenkins is quite busy creating our latest builds", but when you click it, it shows build #268. The URL is: https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/ Shouldn't it be something like this? https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/ or even: https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastBuild/artifact/nbbuild/ -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: AW: NetBeans splash screen discussion on Twitter
On 04/10/2018 08:57 AM, Antonio wrote: > Now, how do we close this unofficial contest? By the end of the month? > Should we announce it somewhere to avoid late entries? Well, we could certainly use more entries... -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
profiler doesn't start on JDK10
Just wanted to make sure the devs are aware that the NetCAT testers have been unable to get the profiler to start at all under JDK10: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-539 Seems to work fine on JDK9. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: NetBeans splash screen discussion on Twitter
On 03/27/2018 06:41 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > https://twitter.com/David_Schulz86/status/978297102525706241 > > Looks good, what do people think? Too garish! -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK
On 03/13/2018 12:13 AM, cowwoc wrote: > Web-based development is cool because everyone is jumping on board. It > isn't cool because it's better. Every week there is a new framework. The > level of cross-platform compatibility doesn't begin to compare to Java. > You have portability problems across different browsers on the same > operating system, not to mention different operating systems. Very well said, totally agree. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: AW: Possible Removal of SVN
On 03/11/2018 01:45 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and > everyone is thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now. One person in particular on the users list is making a fuss over it (saying re. Subversion that we should "discourage its use"), and is even claiming that the CVS plugin isn't available any more (which has been disproved with screenshots). Much ado about nothing, IMHO. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Possible Removal of SVN
On 03/08/2018 09:44 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I agree completely Subversion should stay as a standard part of NetBeans. > CVS, on the other hand, which has been a separate module for several years > now, is IMHO not something we should give high priority. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Logo (NETBEANS-145)
On 03/01/2018 06:32 AM, Antonio wrote: > For popular demand let's vote about the NetBeans Logo in the mailing > list, that's easier for everybody, right? This will close NETBEANS-145 [1]. > > The received entries are at [2]. > > Please state the icon identifer you vote for (only icons count, do not > pay attention to typography). #1 ("shades of blue") -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: A NetBeans website proposal
On 02/24/2018 04:43 AM, Antonio wrote: > Before merging with "master" I thought I could add a "feature" component > as an example on how this could be done. > https://netbeans.vieiro.net/download/nb90/ I *love* the old-time NetBeans "swirl" in the header :) To be ruthlessly honest, shouldn't this page tell what's missing (and still expected from Oracle) in 9.0 compared to 8.2? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta released
On 02/16/2018 08:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache > NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta. Shouldn't there be an announcement of this on the front page of netbeans.apache.org? with a download link? What's the status of migrating from netbeans.org and how can people help? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3
On 02/04/2018 08:49 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3! +1 (non-binding) Built from source. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: info requested regarding build fail
On 01/20/2018 08:35 AM, Chuck Davis wrote: > Yeah, I've been thinking about that. Don't understand how SUSE can > screw-up Ant but since it apparently happened Is it possible that SUSE installs Ant with a dependency of OpenJDK and uses that when it's run? Could that make a difference? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2
On 01/15/2018 02:34 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2! > [X] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... Built from source, ran under 1.8.0_152. So happy and proud to see NetBeans reach this milestone! -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Status of Apache NetBeans (incubating)
On 12/19/2017 06:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The 2nd donation, consisting of features for Java EE, PHP, JavaScript, > HTML, and Groovy is wrapping up -- everything has been audited and > final tweaks are being done, e.g., removing files that cannot be > donated. The legal documents should be signed during the beginning of > next year after which the related code will be transferred. Is it planned to merge the second donation for the 9.0 release, or will that be done in a subsequent release? Will it be as much work to change the licenses as it was for the first donation? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: testing footers...
On 12/18/2017 06:19 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > I'd be tempted to add some form of this -1, don't make it too long -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Solved (Re: Setting up the JIRA plugin?)
On 12/11/2017 08:35 AM, Antonio wrote: > I've been experimenting with the plugin and getting random errors, > ranging from NullPointerExceptions to queries getting stuck. On the bright side, I see that I can save a JIRA query and it appears in the Tasks window (ctrl-shift-6). Neat. > It seems this is related to some mylyn eclipse module, so the sources > are not really available for us to hack on. > > I may want to build a small plugin that presents the issues in a table > and allows for basic queries. What kind of funcionality would you > require during the NetCAT? You may want to ping Jirka or Hermien about that, but being able to report a new issue from within NetBeans would be nice. Is this still reasonably up to date? https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-google.html -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: Solved (Re: Setting up the JIRA plugin?)
On 12/11/2017 08:40 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Excellent. Was hoping you'd say that -- and please provide steps and file > an issue for anything you find, in Apache JIRA. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-208 Couldn't file it using the JIRA plugin, kept getting a dialog saying "summary must be set". User error? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: Solved (Re: Setting up the JIRA plugin?)
On 12/11/2017 08:29 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Yes, forget about that report problem dialog for the moment. > > What do you mean by "build 20171209"? Can you provide a link to > specifically where/how/what you're setting up? https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/ Selected "last build", downloaded NetBeans-dev-incubator-netbeans-linux-264-on-20171209-basic.zip and extracted, ran bin/netbeans. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: Solved (Re: Setting up the JIRA plugin?)
On 12/11/2017 12:30 AM, Antonio wrote: > I finally got the JIRA plugin working from the IDE. For instructions see: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Submitting+issues+in+JIRA Thanks, that's fantastic. It could be great for NetCAT. I set it up using build 20171209. But when I double-clicked a task, I got an NPE, which brought up the NetBeans "Report Problem" dialog. Is that still sending data to the netbeans.org bug tracker? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: Clarity on NetBeans mailing lists
On 11/13/2017 06:55 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > While Wade brings his proposal and plans for moving the NetBeans.org > website to Apache, we should I think make a change on this page: > > https://netbeans.org/community/lists/index.html > > I.e., a key aspect we should focus on, I propose, is not having people > write to netbeans.org mailing lists anymore. Yes, it's time. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
On 06/28/2017 04:38 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: > Sure, I forgot it, sry. > Here is the link: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM Hate 'em. The NetBeans splash images have always been artful and inventive. Don't go with the "modern" "flat" look just because designers are telling us it's fashionable. We aren't using 4.77MHz PCs any more, it's OK to use a nice-looking image. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Re: Preserving the existing NetBeans website after the Apache move
On 04/10/2017 06:22 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > It seems essential to me to use the netbeans.org domain and preserve as > much of the site / links as possible. Is Oracle also donating the netbeans.org domain? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."