Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project

[Jens Hofschröer]

+1

Am 12.03.2019 um 16:44 schrieb Michal Hlaváč:

+1

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:48 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:


Hi all,

After a discussion amongst the Apache NetBeans community on the dev mailing
list[1], voting on a PMC chair[2], checking the podling status page[3], and
working through the maturity model[4], I would like to call a vote for
Apache NetBeans graduating to a top level project.

Apache NetBeans entered the incubator on October 1, 2016. Since then, we
have announced 2 releases, nominated several new committers, participated
in conferences and events, have 99 contributors with 2,423 commits, and --
most importantly -- have grown and diversified our community. Apache
NetBeans is a healthy project that is already acting like an Apache top
level project, so we should take the next step.

If we agree that we should graduate to a top level project, the next step
will be to draft a Resolution for the PPMC and IPMC to vote upon.

Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache NetBeans should
graduate to a Top Level Project by responding with one of the following:

[ ] +1 Apache NetBeans should graduate.
[ ] +0 No opinion
[ ] -1 Apache NetBeans should not graduate (please provide the reason)

The VOTE is open for a minimum of 72 hours. Per Apache guidelines[5] I will
also be notifying the incubator mailing list that a community vote is under
way.

Thanks,

Geertjan
on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8724c66eb22c1ceea81160968cb5ae68fdc2180f46fbbfaab16b4ce9@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
[2]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
[3] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans
[4]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
[5]
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote


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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Jens Hofschröer]

Am 01.03.2019 um 15:28 schrieb Glenn Holmer:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.



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different FileChooser behavior with JDK 11.0.1 on Windows than with 11.0.0

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

I wanted to test the current JDK 11.0.1 in our RCP application and found 
a wired behavior when I tried to open a new project. I got spammed with 
error messages that various (Windows-)links on my Desktop are no longer 
valid and if I want to remove them.


These messages are OS-messages and occur normally when you try to open 
an file or application via a .lnk file and the destination does no 
longer exist. A valid message for an invalid file. But these messages 
only occur if you actively click on these abandoned shortcuts, never 
when you just view them in a directory listing.


/!\ This behavior is specific to the NetBeans FileChooser and the 11.0.1 
release. There is no regression in plain Swing applications and the 
default JFileChooser. There were no regressions with the JDK11+23 build 
of OpenJDK.


I tried OpenJDK and OracleJDK since Azul and AdoptJDK do not provide a 
recent build.


Java: 11.0.1; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13
Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS

Also this is not specific to NB10. I tried NB8.2, NB9 and NB10 together 
with our RCP based on NB8.2 and NB9


System: Windows 7 Version 6.1 läuft auf amd64; Cp1252; de_DE

I don't know where to start digging the problem. What does the NetBeans 
FileChooser different than the default Java one? What change was done to 
Java? I could not find a hint on this. Am I the only one with this problem?


Greetings
Jens


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Re: Problems creating Javahelp project

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

JavaHelp itself is GPL, so it can't be included in the Apache Repo.

AFAIR Jarda said that Oracle may relicense the sources to a more Apache 
friendly one. I am looking forward for a solution, too.


Jens

Am 17.09.2018 um 13:58 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:

Sorry, but cannot find such email here.


Am 17.09.18 um 12:48 schrieb Peter Steele:

I believe in some other emails it was mentioned java help couldn't be
included due to license issues.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:41 Peter Nabbefeld,  
wrote:



After some changes (mainly in folder structure) which seemed to be
necessary, help seems even not to be recognized.

- P.


Am 13.09.18 um 10:50 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:

Hello,

I want to create some NetBeans Javahelp providing module, but I cannot
find out, how. It seems, the problem arises from JHIndexer not being
run. Project source code is available here:
https://github.com/pnabbefeld/NBWicketSupportDocs

Kind regards
Peter

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Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache

[Jens Hofschröer]

Am 03.09.2018 um 15:31 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung  wrote:

...Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older artifacts
if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them?...


No, only Apache Releases (and the corresponding convenience binaries)
can be distributed from apache.org, if non-Apache releases need to
stay up a different solution will be required.


An idea: Upload the old artefacts as releases to the history github repo 
by Emilian. So the "old" sources and the "old" releases are on one place 
and we can link to this resource from the website.


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Re: Ready for Vote Candidate 3?

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

If I open the "about" dialog I saw this exception:

 [exec] INFO [org.openide.util.ImageUtilities]: Image
org/netbeans/core/startup/about_nb.png is not PNG
 [exec] javax.imageio.IIOException: Bad PNG signature!

The mentioned file is in deed a GIF. As far as I can remember all files
in Oracle NetBeans were PNG even if the file extension was GIF. As
Jaroslav mentioned in an earlier thread (last year I think) the
filenames are part of the API so we can't change them, but I think we
should either respect the file extension or make them all PNG.

Greetings
Jens


Am 08.07.2018 um 07:29 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> Hello,
> 
> I updated the Start Page in release90 branch and also imported the 
> NETBEANS-781 fix.
> 
> I see no reason to keep the VC2 vote running.
> 
> Ready for VC3?
> 
> --emi
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Re: Ready for Vote Candidate 3?

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

If I open the "about" dialog I saw this exception:

 [exec] INFO [org.openide.util.ImageUtilities]: Image
org/netbeans/core/startup/about_nb.png is not PNG
 [exec] javax.imageio.IIOException: Bad PNG signature!

The mentioned file is in deed a GIF. As far as I can remember all files
in Oracle NetBeans were PNG even if the file extension was GIF. As
Jaroslav mentioned in an earlier thread (last year I think) the
filenames are part of the API so we can't change them, but I think we
should either respect the file extension or make them all PNG.

Greetings
Jens

Am 08.07.2018 um 07:29 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> Hello,
> 
> I updated the Start Page in release90 branch and also imported the 
> NETBEANS-781 fix.
> 
> I see no reason to keep the VC2 vote running.
> 
> Ready for VC3?
> 
> --emi
> 
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Custom Rumtime Image for RCP Applications

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

I am testing a little bit with Custom Runtime Images for our RCP 
Application and want to share my experiences. Our custom image is

created by the following Ant snippet.

${gtbjdk.home} is the used JDK home directory and ${gtbjdk.dir} is the 
destination folder name.




  

  java.desktop,
  java.instrument,
  java.logging,
  java.naming,
  jdk.localedata,
  jdk.management,
  jdk.pack,
  jdk.jdwp.agent,


  


  

  en,
  de,
  pt-BR,

  


failonerror="true" if:set="dojlink">

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

Created JRE in 
${temp.dir.rest}/${gtbjdk.dir}



The tasks are executed as dependecy of the "build-zip" target and after 
"build-launchers". On Success the generated JRE-Path is set directly in 
our app.conf:


property="gtbjre.exist"/>


  
  


The generated Runtime Image is about 64 MB from an Oracle JDK 9.0.4 (win64)

Greetings
Jens

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Re: Plugin development

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

Am 25.05.2018 um 10:21 schrieb sgpa...@mainscreen.com:

I am currently developing a fix for a bug in a NB 8.2 plugin but I am running 
into an issue regarding ProjectClassPathModifier versus 
ProjectClassPathExtender. Can someone please direct me to the correct place to 
ask a question on such an issue? Thanks.


Normally the correct "place" is trying to contact the original author. 
Do you have an email address or website? What is the name of the plugin? 
Maybe the author is reading this mailing list.


Jens

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Re: Netbeans cache and configurations

[Jens Hofschröer]

Am 21.03.2018 um 03:05 schrieb cowwoc:
Windows has a concept of "global" installs vs "user specific" installs. 
The former goes into "c:\program files". The latter goes into 
c:\users\xxx\AppData.


Netbeans is kind of odd in that it installs into the global location, 
but uses user-specific directories for data. It probably makes sense to 
ask users whether they want global vs user-specific installs and then 
keep the data in each respective location (instead of crossing the wires).
This does not work for us. At work we are not allowed to install any 
user-specific Applications, so the IDE is installed into the "global" 
"Program Files" Folder. But the user has no right to write at that 
localtion, so every user-specific data has to be written into a folder 
where the user has write access.


As Emilian pointed out at [1] is an explanation of why these folders are 
where these folders are today. And this is exactly what we need at work, 
exept, that we start with an explicit --userdir outside the userprofile. 
We use "roaming profiles" where the "%LOCALAPPDATA%" is excluded from 
sync so we start with a fresh cache on every login.


But I would like to see the "Cache Control"-Feature build in somehow 
into the IDE.


Greetings
Jens


[1] http://wiki.netbeans.org/UserdirAndCachedirFoldersInSystemSpecificPaths

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Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Logo (NETBEANS-145)

[Jens Hofschröer]

ID 2: +1

Jens

Am 01.03.2018 um 13:32 schrieb Antonio:

Hi all,

For popular demand let's vote about the NetBeans Logo in the mailing 
list, that's easier for everybody, right? This will close NETBEANS-145 [1].


The received entries are at [2].

Please state the icon identifer you vote for (only icons count, do not 
pay attention to typography).


Thanks all,
Antonio


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-145

[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Logo+Contest 



 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: [ANN] Closing the NetBeans Logo Contest
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 12:23:50 +
From: John McDonnell 
Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org

We should create a vote thread here, or on users.  This is consistent with
normal apache votes.  All it needs is a link to the confluence page to show
the images and their option numbers.

It avoids everyone having to have edit writes on the confluence just for a
vote.

Regards

John



On 1 March 2018 at 12:21, John Kostaras  wrote:


It's not clear where do we have to add our vote: in confluence
or
in jira ?

I vote for option 2, too.

Regards,

John.

On 1 March 2018 at 13:16, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 at 12:08 Peter Steele  wrote:
>
> > That means you need to have an account that is approved for editting.
> >
>
> Good catch!  Do we really want to restrict voting to wiki editors?  
Or to

> dev@?  Or to users@?
>
> Personally, I'm in favour of at least having a thread on here
specifically
> for voting, if not one at users@ too.
>
> Best wishes,
>
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Re: [Plugins] How to open archive files by MIME type?

[Jens Hofschröer]

Am 27.01.2018 um 09:46 schrieb Emilian Bold:

There is no plan to release the sources since you can do this with the build in "New 
File Type"-Wizard on your own.


How can this be closed source when the licenses is listed as Apache 2.0 here 
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/55342/office-file-types?

--emi


Mea Culpa! You are right.

I copied the sources from out internal scm to github:
https://github.com/nigjo/OfficeFilesTypes

Jens

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Re: [Plugins] How to open archive files by MIME type?

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

Am 22.01.2018 um 09:37 schrieb Christian Lenz:

There is already a plugin for those file types: 
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/55342/office-file-types unfortunately, there 
is no link to the Code repo. [...] You can try to write the developer.


I am the author of this plugin (and the sources are not mine). It is 
only a collection of registered MIME-Resolver as described in [1], no 
magic. Just call Desktop.open() on the FileObject.


There is no plan to release the sources since you can do this with the 
build in "New File Type"-Wizard on your own.


Greetings
Jens

[1] https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-filetype.html



Von: Peter Nabbefeld
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2018 00:40
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: [Plugins] How to open archive files by MIME type?

Hello,

it seems impossible to open files from LibreOffice, MS Office etc. with
NetBeans, as they're detected as archives, and special handling is assigned.

How can I open such files using DataLoaders?

Kind regards
Peter

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Re: testing footers...

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

Am 18.12.2017 um 12:57 schrieb Daniel Gruno:

should be a footer here below...

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May be adding an extra ""-Line in front to mark this 
as a "signature".


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Re: Preprocessing external binaries

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi

> [...]


All these situations are currently handled by hooking into the 
-javac-init projectized-common ant task, in the build.xml file, like this:





I was wondering if ...

- ... it would be a good idea to create a new ant target in 
projectized-common specifically for this situation, say 
"preprocess-binaries", or "prepare-binaries".
- ... What other things could we do here? For all of you that have 
reviewed modules, would you benefit of such a new target?


I suggest to use extension points [1] for these kind of modification. 
Since Ant 1.8 "Dummy"-Targets are no longer necessary.


Jens
[1] http://ant.apache.org/manual/targets.html#extension-points


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Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Jens Hofschröer]

Hi Chris

Am 28.06.2017 um 11:38 schrieb Christian Lenz:

Sure, I forgot it, sry.
Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM


I have to say, that I don't like any of them. They are looking sterile 
to me without any structure. I like the structured background of the 
current (and former) splash screens.


Greetings
Jens

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