Re: Revert Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917 (was: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!)

2019-03-01 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Anton,

thank you for taking this on and getting it resolved. It is
appreciated.

Greetings

Matthias

Am Freitag, den 22.02.2019, 11:33 +0100 schrieb Anton Epple:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I'm sorry for the long silence, I simply completely missed the whole
> communication due to my Email settings. Jarda has contacted me and
> I'll try to catchup this weekend.
> 
> --Toni
> 
> 
> Am 22.02.19, 09:56 schrieb "Jaroslav Tulach" <
> jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Thanks for the mailing list heads-up! I talked to Toni and
> explained that
> 20 days silence in an issue resolution is undesirable. Hopefully
> a way to
> avoid that in the future has been agreed upon.
> 
> PR-1143 seems to resolve the licensing problem, so I've just
> merged it.
> -jt
> 
> st 20. 2. 2019 v 4:46 odesílatel Jaroslav Tulach <
> jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com>
> napsal:
> 
> > -1 (e.g. veto) to the revert proposal.
> >
> > Dne středa 20. února 2019 1:03:36 CET, Matthias Bläsing
> napsal(a):
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 20:01 +0100 schrieb Matthias
> Bläsing:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 10:44 -0800 schrieb Laszlo
> Kishalmi:
> > > > > BTW, as we are not really going to release this build and
> that would
> > be
> > > > > true for the next one.
> > > > > Shall we play the release dance and upload everything to
> the staging
> > > > > area and create vote threads?
> > > >
> > > > we can skip this. We have a release blocker right in the
> LICENSE file:
> > > >
> > > > [JavaFX binaries are packaged with Apache NetBeans]
> > > >
> > > > @Toni, could you please have a look at the comments in the
> JavaFX PR:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/917
> > > >
> > > > and the corresponding issue:
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1995
> > >
> > > I intent to revert the changes that were committed as the PR
> titled
> > > "Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation
> #917".
> > >
> > > The primary reason: the PR messes with the build process
> >
> > OK, as far as I can see build is slightly complicated. That is
> not a
> > reason
> > for revert.
> >
> > > and let it
> > > look like GPLv2-CP runtime libraries are pulled into the
> build.
> >
> > "look like" isn't reason for revert.
> >
> > > Secondary reasons:
> > >
> > > - the local maven repository is hardcoded to $HOME/.m2
> >
> > OK, feel free to propose a fix. Not a revert.
> >
> >
> > > => Anyone using a windows installation with roaming profiles
> and a not
> > > so fast network will know, that having .m2 at the default
> location is a
> > > bad idea
> > >
> > > - the m2 url handler will not handle non Maven-Central URLs
> >
> > As far as I can tell, that is not a bug, but feature.
> >
> > > => There are other popular maven repositories (bintray), that
> might be
> > > relevant for us.
> >
> > "might be" isn't reason for revert.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > -jt
> >
> >
> > > While looking into this, I noticed, that the generation of
> license file
> > > needs rereview, as the per-nbm files also contain per-file
> licenses for
> > > files not included in that nbm. Maybe both problems can be
> tackled
> > > togehter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > >
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Re: Revert Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917 (was: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!)

2019-02-22 Thread Anton Epple
Hi Guys,

I'm sorry for the long silence, I simply completely missed the whole 
communication due to my Email settings. Jarda has contacted me and I'll try to 
catchup this weekend.

--Toni


Am 22.02.19, 09:56 schrieb "Jaroslav Tulach" :

Thanks for the mailing list heads-up! I talked to Toni and explained that
20 days silence in an issue resolution is undesirable. Hopefully a way to
avoid that in the future has been agreed upon.

PR-1143 seems to resolve the licensing problem, so I've just merged it.
-jt

st 20. 2. 2019 v 4:46 odesílatel Jaroslav Tulach 
napsal:

> -1 (e.g. veto) to the revert proposal.
>
> Dne středa 20. února 2019 1:03:36 CET, Matthias Bläsing napsal(a):
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 20:01 +0100 schrieb Matthias Bläsing:
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 10:44 -0800 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi:
> > > > BTW, as we are not really going to release this build and that would
> be
> > > > true for the next one.
> > > > Shall we play the release dance and upload everything to the staging
> > > > area and create vote threads?
> > >
> > > we can skip this. We have a release blocker right in the LICENSE file:
> > >
> > > [JavaFX binaries are packaged with Apache NetBeans]
> > >
> > > @Toni, could you please have a look at the comments in the JavaFX PR:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/917
> > >
> > > and the corresponding issue:
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1995
> >
> > I intent to revert the changes that were committed as the PR titled
> > "Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917".
> >
> > The primary reason: the PR messes with the build process
>
> OK, as far as I can see build is slightly complicated. That is not a
> reason
> for revert.
>
> > and let it
> > look like GPLv2-CP runtime libraries are pulled into the build.
>
> "look like" isn't reason for revert.
>
> > Secondary reasons:
> >
> > - the local maven repository is hardcoded to $HOME/.m2
>
> OK, feel free to propose a fix. Not a revert.
>
>
> > => Anyone using a windows installation with roaming profiles and a not
> > so fast network will know, that having .m2 at the default location is a
> > bad idea
> >
> > - the m2 url handler will not handle non Maven-Central URLs
>
> As far as I can tell, that is not a bug, but feature.
>
> > => There are other popular maven repositories (bintray), that might be
> > relevant for us.
>
> "might be" isn't reason for revert.
>
> Best regards.
> -jt
>
>
> > While looking into this, I noticed, that the generation of license file
> > needs rereview, as the per-nbm files also contain per-file licenses for
> > files not included in that nbm. Maybe both problems can be tackled
> > togehter.
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> > -
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Re: Revert Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917 (was: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!)

2019-02-22 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Thanks for the mailing list heads-up! I talked to Toni and explained that
20 days silence in an issue resolution is undesirable. Hopefully a way to
avoid that in the future has been agreed upon.

PR-1143 seems to resolve the licensing problem, so I've just merged it.
-jt

st 20. 2. 2019 v 4:46 odesílatel Jaroslav Tulach 
napsal:

> -1 (e.g. veto) to the revert proposal.
>
> Dne středa 20. února 2019 1:03:36 CET, Matthias Bläsing napsal(a):
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 20:01 +0100 schrieb Matthias Bläsing:
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 10:44 -0800 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi:
> > > > BTW, as we are not really going to release this build and that would
> be
> > > > true for the next one.
> > > > Shall we play the release dance and upload everything to the staging
> > > > area and create vote threads?
> > >
> > > we can skip this. We have a release blocker right in the LICENSE file:
> > >
> > > [JavaFX binaries are packaged with Apache NetBeans]
> > >
> > > @Toni, could you please have a look at the comments in the JavaFX PR:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/917
> > >
> > > and the corresponding issue:
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1995
> >
> > I intent to revert the changes that were committed as the PR titled
> > "Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917".
> >
> > The primary reason: the PR messes with the build process
>
> OK, as far as I can see build is slightly complicated. That is not a
> reason
> for revert.
>
> > and let it
> > look like GPLv2-CP runtime libraries are pulled into the build.
>
> "look like" isn't reason for revert.
>
> > Secondary reasons:
> >
> > - the local maven repository is hardcoded to $HOME/.m2
>
> OK, feel free to propose a fix. Not a revert.
>
>
> > => Anyone using a windows installation with roaming profiles and a not
> > so fast network will know, that having .m2 at the default location is a
> > bad idea
> >
> > - the m2 url handler will not handle non Maven-Central URLs
>
> As far as I can tell, that is not a bug, but feature.
>
> > => There are other popular maven repositories (bintray), that might be
> > relevant for us.
>
> "might be" isn't reason for revert.
>
> Best regards.
> -jt
>
>
> > While looking into this, I noticed, that the generation of license file
> > needs rereview, as the per-nbm files also contain per-file licenses for
> > files not included in that nbm. Maybe both problems can be tackled
> > togehter.
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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Re: Revert Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917 (was: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!)

2019-02-19 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
-1 (e.g. veto) to the revert proposal.

Dne středa 20. února 2019 1:03:36 CET, Matthias Bläsing napsal(a):
> Hello all,
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 20:01 +0100 schrieb Matthias Bläsing:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 10:44 -0800 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi:
> > > BTW, as we are not really going to release this build and that would be
> > > true for the next one.
> > > Shall we play the release dance and upload everything to the staging
> > > area and create vote threads?
> > 
> > we can skip this. We have a release blocker right in the LICENSE file:
> > 
> > [JavaFX binaries are packaged with Apache NetBeans]
> > 
> > @Toni, could you please have a look at the comments in the JavaFX PR:
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/917
> > 
> > and the corresponding issue:
> > 
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1995
> 
> I intent to revert the changes that were committed as the PR titled
> "Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917".
> 
> The primary reason: the PR messes with the build process 

OK, as far as I can see build is slightly complicated. That is not a reason 
for revert.

> and let it
> look like GPLv2-CP runtime libraries are pulled into the build.

"look like" isn't reason for revert.

> Secondary reasons:
> 
> - the local maven repository is hardcoded to $HOME/.m2

OK, feel free to propose a fix. Not a revert.

 
> => Anyone using a windows installation with roaming profiles and a not
> so fast network will know, that having .m2 at the default location is a
> bad idea
> 
> - the m2 url handler will not handle non Maven-Central URLs

As far as I can tell, that is not a bug, but feature.

> => There are other popular maven repositories (bintray), that might be
> relevant for us.

"might be" isn't reason for revert.

Best regards.
-jt


> While looking into this, I noticed, that the generation of license file
> needs rereview, as the per-nbm files also contain per-file licenses for
> files not included in that nbm. Maybe both problems can be tackled
> togehter.
> 
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
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Revert Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917 (was: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!)

2019-02-19 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hello all,

Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 20:01 +0100 schrieb Matthias Bläsing:
> Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2019, 10:44 -0800 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi:
> > BTW, as we are not really going to release this build and that would be 
> > true for the next one.
> > Shall we play the release dance and upload everything to the staging 
> > area and create vote threads?
> 
> we can skip this. We have a release blocker right in the LICENSE file:
> 
> [JavaFX binaries are packaged with Apache NetBeans]
> 
> @Toni, could you please have a look at the comments in the JavaFX PR:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/917
> 
> and the corresponding issue:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1995
> 

I intent to revert the changes that were committed as the PR titled
"Fragments for libs.javafx with JavaFX 11 implementation #917".

The primary reason: the PR messes with the build process and let it
look like GPLv2-CP runtime libraries are pulled into the build.

Secondary reasons:

- the local maven repository is hardcoded to $HOME/.m2

=> Anyone using a windows installation with roaming profiles and a not
so fast network will know, that having .m2 at the default location is a
bad idea

- the m2 url handler will not handle non Maven-Central URLs

=> There are other popular maven repositories (bintray), that might be
relevant for us.


While looking into this, I noticed, that the generation of license file
needs rereview, as the per-nbm files also contain per-file licenses for
files not included in that nbm. Maybe both problems can be tackled
togehter.


Greetings

Matthias


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