Re: New address book

2013-02-27 Thread Alexei Fedotov
No iframes, I promise! :-)

Thanks for looking into it.
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik solomax...@gmail.com wrote:
 nobody likes iframes :))


 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
 seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay,

 I just have seen you want to put it into an iFrame.
 Can an application running in an iFrame communicate with another SWF that
 runs in another iFrame ?
 It is essential that the communication between the app in the iFrame and
 the main SWF(s) and vice versa works.

 From my point of view having the address book loaded into a div as overlay
 has some advantages.
 An iFrame solution is very static, the iFrame would be situated always on
 the left, right, bottom or top. And it would always need the entire side,
 so splitting it up like for example the user list + the activity window on
 the left side will not be possible.
 A div-overlay object could potentially anywhere be.

 Sebastian


 2013/2/27 Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.com

  The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
  27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь Irina Arkhipets 
 irina.arkhip...@gmail.com
  написал:
 
   Hi Sebastian,
  
   Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be
  useful
   sometime...
  
   Regards,
   Irina.
  
   On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
   seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay
  over
Flash a part / a research to realize this?
   
Sebastian
   
   
2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.com
   
 Hello Maxim, thanks for support.

 My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new
 book.
   The
 video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object
 tag
 without iframe

 One more note - when I say ¨android address  book I mean search
utilities
 at the first place.

 Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
server
 (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server
  also
 provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
   smaller
 one, we can use openfire server.
 I like the idea of common address book

 but it will NOT work in iframe
 so it can be resolved in 3.0 only


 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov 
alexei.fedo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello folks, Sebastian,
 
  I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
 innovation,
  just a copy of a newer thing than before.
 
  We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which
  looks
   like
  android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
   before
we
  start coding.
 
  Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
   participates
in
  the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the
  board
the
  invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
 including
  mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on
 the
 contact
  does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
adopting
  the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad
 working
  as
  well).
 
  All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the
 default
look
  resembles the one we have now.
 
  The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
  Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of
  jquery
 (and
  maybe  some other lib in the middle).
 
  Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
   flash
 to
  html5 transition.
 
  After we  do basics, further ideas include the following
   improvements.
 
  It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
  implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
   developed
  apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level
  will
help
  better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address
 book
  invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
  openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The
  whole
 thing
  would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
distribute
  invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
 
  Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google
  and
 social
  networks, managing duplicates.
  Some special users do more on receiving invitation. They
automatically
  turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
openmeetings
  into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take
  

Re: New address book

2013-02-26 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
I like the idea of common address book

but it will NOT work in iframe
so it can be resolved in 3.0 only


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello folks, Sebastian,

 I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
 just a copy of a newer thing than before.

 We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which  looks like
 android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
 start coding.

 Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
 the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
 invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
 mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
 does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
 the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
 well).

 All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
 resembles the one we have now.

 The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
 Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
 maybe  some other lib in the middle).

 Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
 html5 transition.

 After we  do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.

 It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
 implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
 apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
 better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
 invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
 openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
 would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
 invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.

 Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and social
 networks, managing duplicates.
 Some special users do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
 turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
 into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
 placing cameras in a cafeteria.




-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Re: New address book

2013-02-26 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Peter,

Each user will have its own address book. If server administrator has
configured ldap import, a user gets some corporate contacts by default. His
personal contacts and social network contacts do not transfer to other user
books automatically.

One more thing to add: offline users are sorted by default using last
contacted field-this means favorites are on the top.
26.02.2013 11:58 пользователь Peter Dähn da...@vcrp.de написал:

 Hello everybody,

 we discuss about privacy issues.

 One can search across all users by default. There should by an option for
 the users to configure whether they are in that list or not. And it should
 be set to keep privacy by default.

 Greetings
 Peter Dähn

 Am 26.02.2013 08:48, schrieb Alexei Fedotov:

 Hello folks, Sebastian,

 I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
 just a copy of a newer thing than before.

 We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which  looks like
 android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
 start coding.

 Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
 the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
 invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
 mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
 does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
 the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
 well).

 All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
 resembles the one we have now.

 The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
 Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
 maybe  some other lib in the middle).

 Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
 html5 transition.

 After we  do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.

 It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
 implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
 apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
 better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
 invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
 openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
 would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
 invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.

 Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
 social
 networks, managing duplicates.
 Some special users do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
 turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
 into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
 placing cameras in a cafeteria.





Re: New address book

2013-02-26 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Maxim, thanks for support.

My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book. The
video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
without iframe

One more note - when I say ¨android address  book I mean search utilities
at the first place.

Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber server
(or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a smaller
one, we can use openfire server.
I like the idea of common address book

but it will NOT work in iframe
so it can be resolved in 3.0 only


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello folks, Sebastian,

 I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
 just a copy of a newer thing than before.

 We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which  looks like
 android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
 start coding.

 Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
 the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
 invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
 mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
 does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
 the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
 well).

 All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
 resembles the one we have now.

 The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
 Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
 maybe  some other lib in the middle).

 Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
 html5 transition.

 After we  do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.

 It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
 implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
 apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
 better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
 invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
 openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
 would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
 invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.

 Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
social
 networks, managing duplicates.
 Some special users do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
 turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
 into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
 placing cameras in a cafeteria.




--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Re: New address book

2013-02-26 Thread Alexei Fedotov
The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь Irina Arkhipets irina.arkhip...@gmail.com
написал:

 Hi Sebastian,

 Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be useful
 sometime...

 Regards,
 Irina.

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
 seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay over
  Flash a part / a research to realize this?
 
  Sebastian
 
 
  2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.com
 
   Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
  
   My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book.
 The
   video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
   without iframe
  
   One more note - when I say ¨android address  book I mean search
  utilities
   at the first place.
  
   Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
  server
   (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
   provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
 smaller
   one, we can use openfire server.
   I like the idea of common address book
  
   but it will NOT work in iframe
   so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
  
  
   On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov 
  alexei.fedo...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Hello folks, Sebastian,
   
I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
   innovation,
just a copy of a newer thing than before.
   
We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which  looks
 like
android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
 before
  we
start coding.
   
Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
 participates
  in
the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board
  the
invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
   including
mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the
   contact
does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
  adopting
the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
well).
   
All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default
  look
resembles the one we have now.
   
The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery
   (and
maybe  some other lib in the middle).
   
Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
 flash
   to
html5 transition.
   
After we  do basics, further ideas include the following
 improvements.
   
It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
 developed
apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will
  help
better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole
   thing
would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
  distribute
invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
   
Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
   social
networks, managing duplicates.
Some special users do more on receiving invitation. They
  automatically
turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
  openmeetings
into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance
 of
placing cameras in a cafeteria.
   
  
  
  
   --
   WBR
   Maxim aka solomax
  
 
 
 
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