Re: Status bar
Yes, i want to modify text of an actual status bar control. Draw application. 2013/3/24 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Антон, On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 02:27:35AM +0400, Антон Борисов wrote: Hello, how can i change Text in status bar by extension's code? Do you want to modify the text of an actual status bar control, or create a new one? If the first, which control in which application? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Борисов Антон
Download page: add Official Site to the title
I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (and to the test pages that may replace it for future releases) in the hope that this will make it easier to identify the official site for people who use search engines. If you believe that this change won't have the intended effect, or on the contrary that Official Site should also be added to other sections of our website, feel free to modify the pages accordingly. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On 22/03/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? Good news! So this will also mean that we get rid of the following layout, right? /opt/openoffice-341/ |-- openoffice.org `-- openoffice.org3 and that the example layout you sent is the full OpenOffice directory layout. On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. Sure. If you don't build it on a very recent system, I can test them on a variety of Linux-based systems (also using older glibc versions). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Status bar
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:55:19PM +0400, Антон Борисов wrote: Yes, i want to modify text of an actual status bar control. Draw application. Which control do you want to modify? The status bar is made of status bar controls, each control is identified by a UNO command, you can look at the XML definition of the status bar in Draw: http://localhost:8080/opengrok/xref/trunk-main/sd/uiconfig/sdraw/statusbar/statusbar.xml The definition follows the same order as the user interface. Once you identify the control by its UNO command, you have to develop a dispatch interceptor, in order to intercept this command. In the simplest case, the original dispatch provides status updates in the form of a string. So you replace this original dispatch with your own implementation, and provide your own string. See the demo at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/api/StatusbarDispatchInterceptorDemo.oxt (in the same folder there is another demo, for pictures in Writer, IIRC). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpoHE5QqVsMF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[QA Report]Weekly Defect Analysis
Hi, all: Here is this week(20130317~20130324) report http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130325 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130325
Re: Status bar
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 08:30:01AM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:55:19PM +0400, Антон Борисов wrote: Yes, i want to modify text of an actual status bar control. Draw application. Which control do you want to modify? The status bar is made of status bar controls, each control is identified by a UNO command, you can look at the XML definition of the status bar in Draw: http://localhost:8080/opengrok/xref/trunk-main/sd/uiconfig/sdraw/statusbar/statusbar.xml this should have been http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/sd/uiconfig/sdraw/statusbar/statusbar.xml Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpwqO_7NhFvu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (and to the test pages that may replace it for future releases) in the hope that this will make it easier to identify the official site for people who use search engines. That might help some, but I'd recommend going even further and adding a meta name=description content=foo to the header as well. If you look at the synopsis that Google currently returns for the page, it is not very informative. But if you add a good sentence or two to a meta description, Google sometimes will use that in its search results instead. -Rob If you believe that this change won't have the intended effect, or on the contrary that Official Site should also be added to other sections of our website, feel free to modify the pages accordingly. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [UX] Design Exploration - AOO 4.0 Sidebar Specific Content Panel Design
On 22/03/2013 Xin Li wrote: 1. Icon style of sidebar in AOO 4.0. From UX point of view, to avoid the usability issues, we need to make sure the same icon for the same function in AOO and all the icons have the same visual style. So we need to use AOO icons in sidebar. For the buttons which did not have AOO icons, we will use Symphony icons. ... http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Sidebar_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals I think everything is quite nice, except the contrast between the OpenOffice and the Symphony icons when used side-to-side. Example: in row 1 of http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/e/ed/4.0_sidebar_panel_list.jpg the B, I and U icons (bold, italic, underlined) are gray, while the S (strikethrough) is blue. Maybe some color tweaking would give better consistency here. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title
Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ ... That might help some, but I'd recommend going even further and adding ameta name=description content=foo to the header as well. OK. I've now added a line to the HEAD section too, copying it from other existing meta information. Again, feel free to fix/improve. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: What I like about the sidebar: ... - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users! Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that the sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement new features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count (not the button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar. Is this technically feasible? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title
Am 03/24/2013 11:23 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (and to the test pages that may replace it for future releases) in the Ah, right, there is still some work to do. Thanks for this little reminder. ;-) I think Eastern is quite nice to make some changes. hope that this will make it easier to identify the official site for people who use search engines. If you believe that this change won't have the intended effect, or on the contrary that Official Site should also be added to other sections of our website, feel free to modify the pages accordingly. It's good to point this out in the webpages to make it clear in the Google serach results. However, when searching now it's already very good - even when Google has not yet optimized the search results: http://www.google.de/search?q=openoffice+download+official The first result is already our download page. The next 3 results point to www.openoffice.org webpages and the sixth is the blog post with How to Safely Download Apache OpenOffice. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office
Hello Reina, I trust you are well. It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your install of Symphony fails to open. Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users. I have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of Do It Blind is tied to 508 Compliance. Regards, - Dennis My name is Jennifer McKinley. I am the co-founder of Do It Blind. My business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office to make it blind accessible. We have already developed scripts for other very popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify. Please visit doitblind.com for more information on them. Who can we speak with in regards to making Open Office blind accessible? Please email me or call me. We appreciate your time. Thank you! Jennifer McKinley Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC doitblind.com 505-382-2641 -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: 'Waldorf PC' Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2. I also have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting. B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of. There is a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety of dialogs and a way to select among them. This is also a feature that is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x. [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Am 03/22/2013 05:15 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: [...] Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? You are absolutely right with cleaning up the old 3-layer-office. A big +1 to get rid of it. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/24/2013 11:23 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (and to the test pages that may replace it for future releases) in the Ah, right, there is still some work to do. Thanks for this little reminder. ;-) I think Eastern is quite nice to make some changes. hope that this will make it easier to identify the official site for people who use search engines. If you believe that this change won't have the intended effect, or on the contrary that Official Site should also be added to other sections of our website, feel free to modify the pages accordingly. It's good to point this out in the webpages to make it clear in the Google serach results. However, when searching now it's already very good - even when Google has not yet optimized the search results: http://www.google.de/search?q=openoffice+download+official The first result is already our download page. But no one queries for openoffice download official. They search for openoffice or openoffice download For those queries we do see the wrong sites showing up via sponsored placements. By putting official' in our title and description we help the user notice the right site in the listings, even if there is a sponsored ad on the page as well. -Rob The next 3 results point to www.openoffice.org webpages and the sixth is the blog post with How to Safely Download Apache OpenOffice. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
2013/3/24 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: What I like about the sidebar: ... - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users! Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that the sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement new features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count (not the button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar. Is this technically feasible? Real time word count? Yes, this will make lots of users happy! Regards Ricardo Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 05:56:58PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: What I like about the sidebar: ... - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users! Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that the sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement new features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count (not the button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar. Is this technically feasible? The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpGrI1wNhJUJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Le 24/03/2013 18:34, Rob Weir a écrit : What is the advantage to the user? I don't think users care about the directory structure. This is an internal implementation detail. So It doesn't change much for the user but it does bring more consistency for the GNU/Linux platform as said at the beginning of the topic. I've always found this additional openoffice.org folder in /opt rather confusing. And it can lead to problems if you want to run in parallel 2 versions of OO. So a big +1 for this change. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ +1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something else in the sidebar. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[question] build structure, how is l10n handled.
Hi all. I have started to integrate genLang into the build structure replacing the currenct l10n part, or more correctly I have strugled to understand head and tail. I thought (as written in my document earlier and corrected by none) that somewhere localize_sl was called to do the extract/merge, but I cannot find a single file that contains a call to localize_sl. I then removed all unxlangx6.pro (I use ubuntu) and did a build --all where I recorded all output. Now I could see that transex3, helpex, ulfex, cfgex and xrmex was called directly. Having seen that I thought it is in the local makefiles, but no luck. The following files have a reference to transex3: ./toolkit/src2xml/source/src2xml.py ./solenv/gbuild/AllLangResTarget.mk ./solenv/inc/os2gcci.mk ./solenv/inc/libs.mk ./solenv/inc/unitools.mk But I cannot see how that connects into the build system. In order to integrate genLang I need to understand to things: a) where the current system builds l10n parts b) where I could attach genLang (it should only be called once for every module, with a list of files to extract/merge). I hope someone can give me a hint on where to get more information, at the moment I am pretty lost. Once I get this working, I can do the final testing, and we can get rid of the sdf files, coding is so far completed. thx in advance for any serious help. Jan I.
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
Hagar Delest wrote: Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ +1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something else in the sidebar. Sure. If there is an extension already available and all the needed API work as described in https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121442 has been done by Ariel in the last months (thanks!), then let's just integrate and enable this extension by default and not use the sidebar for that. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
There are two parts to the extensions for writing aids. I think there is some serious low-hanging fruit for improving how this works. MATERIAL INSTALLED IN THE PROGRAM SPACE. The last time I checked, some writing aids and extensions that are bundled and considered part of a distro are installed with the binaries (e.g., under the Program Files location on Windows). It matters whether those are installed as .oxt files or they are installed as folders (with the same names) that are the extracted files from the .oxt. With Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (en-US) installed on Microsoft Windows XP SP3 there are the following in an installation of mine: * dict-fr.oxt\ is a folder (6.3 MB on disk). It is stashed under C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\share\uno_ packages\IF2_tmp_\ (I'm not quite sure why I have it, but there it is.) * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.2 MB), another folder, not the .oxt package. This is under ... share\prereg\bundled\ * presenter-screen.oxt\ (3.2 MB), another folder, same place as the preceding one * dict-en.oxt (6.2MB) an actual .oxt package, not one that has been unpacked. This is under ... share\extensions\install\ If this were extracted, it would occupy 24,788kB. In addition, it appears to have, in one package, a mix of aids for en_US, en_AU, en_CA, en_GB, and en_ZA. An .oxt is a Zip package with a structure that preceded what is done with ODF packages. (There is significant advantage to moving to an ODF-package form.) MATERIAL INSTALLED IN USER SPACE This is in a place where applications can put data (such as profiles) that is dynamic and is not locked-down the same as the material in the Program Space. Here is what is there in the same configuration as the above. These are all under C:\Documents and Settings\orcmid\Application Data\ OpenOffice.org\3\user\uno_packages\cache\uno_packages\ a folder occupying 91.3MB on Disk. There are six subdirectory directories each containing another directory which is an expanded .oxt. These expanded .oxt folders are: * dict-en-au-2008-12-15.oxt\ (21.4MB on disk) * dict-en-nz-2008-12-03.oxt\ (21.3MB) * dict-en.oxt\ (24.2 MB) * en_CA_2_0_0.oxt\ (21.4MB) * en_US.oxt\ (704 kB!) * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.17 MB) I can understand .oxt *files* being part of the installed set in the Program Files area. I don't understand why all caching is not in the Application Data space, but I also wonder whether keeping more data inside of the .oxt package might also be productive. I think the point is that there are some odd dependencies and redundancies here. I don't profess to understand them. I am only observing their presence in the code and user profile footprints. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:35 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1 [ ... ] The one directory structure issue that we do get complaints about is our placement of dictionaries. We've heard from admins some concern about the size of our per-user profile, with the argument that immutable files like dictionaries should not be in the profile. For example, one admin was managing a training lab where he needed to reset the profiles for each training machine via a script. He did this by copying from a master profile over the network. But each profile directory was something like 40MB, due to inclusion of the dictionaries. [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [question] build structure, how is l10n handled.
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013 um 21:19 schrieb janI: Hi all. I have started to integrate genLang into the build structure replacing the currenct l10n part, or more correctly I have strugled to understand head and tail. I thought (as written in my document earlier and corrected by none) that somewhere localize_sl was called to do the extract/merge, but I cannot find a single file that contains a call to localize_sl. I then removed all unxlangx6.pro (I use ubuntu) and did a build --all where I recorded all output. Now I could see that transex3, helpex, ulfex, cfgex and xrmex was called directly. Having seen that I thought it is in the local makefiles, but no luck. The following files have a reference to transex3: ./toolkit/src2xml/source/src2xml.py ./solenv/gbuild/AllLangResTarget.mk ./solenv/inc/os2gcci.mk ./solenv/inc/libs.mk ./solenv/inc/unitools.mk But I cannot see how that connects into the build system. In order to integrate genLang I need to understand to things: a) where the current system builds l10n parts b) where I could attach genLang (it should only be called once for every module, with a list of files to extract/merge). I hope someone can give me a hint on where to get more information, at the moment I am pretty lost. Once I get this working, I can do the final testing, and we can get rid of the sdf files, coding is so far completed. thx in advance for any serious help. Jan I. i will take a look in the code tomorrow... I assume it is triggered indirectly via the various build targets. solenv is the correct place to start looking and the makefiles in one module where resources gets generated/build. Juergen
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:58:00 +0100 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ +1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something else in the sidebar. Hagar Agreed that Word Count would be better in the Status bar, rather than in the Sidebar. My reasons: if Sidebar is turned off by a User and they continue to use the classic OpenOffice interface, then they still have the Word Count. I haven't yet had time to try the Sidebar (apart from looking at the visuals), as my current systems are all 32 bit Ubuntu; in the next few weeks I hope to migrate one or more to 64 bit Ubuntu so I can try the Sidebar -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013 um 21:59 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: There are two parts to the extensions for writing aids. I think there is some serious low-hanging fruit for improving how this works. MATERIAL INSTALLED IN THE PROGRAM SPACE. The last time I checked, some writing aids and extensions that are bundled and considered part of a distro are installed with the binaries (e.g., under the Program Files location on Windows). It matters whether those are installed as .oxt files or they are installed as folders (with the same names) that are the extracted files from the .oxt. With Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (en-US) installed on Microsoft Windows XP SP3 there are the following in an installation of mine: * dict-fr.oxt\ is a folder (6.3 MB on disk). It is stashed under C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\share\uno_ packages\IF2_tmp_\ (I'm not quite sure why I have it, but there it is.) * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.2 MB), another folder, not the .oxt package. This is under ... share\prereg\bundled\ * presenter-screen.oxt\ (3.2 MB), another folder, same place as the preceding one * dict-en.oxt (6.2MB) an actual .oxt package, not one that has been unpacked. This is under ... share\extensions\install\ If this were extracted, it would occupy 24,788kB. In addition, it appears to have, in one package, a mix of aids for en_US, en_AU, en_CA, en_GB, and en_ZA. An .oxt is a Zip package with a structure that preceded what is done with ODF packages. (There is significant advantage to moving to an ODF-package form.) MATERIAL INSTALLED IN USER SPACE This is in a place where applications can put data (such as profiles) that is dynamic and is not locked-down the same as the material in the Program Space. Here is what is there in the same configuration as the above. These are all under C:\Documents and Settings\orcmid\Application Data\ OpenOffice.org\3\user\uno_packages\cache\uno_packages\ a folder occupying 91.3MB on Disk. There are six subdirectory directories each containing another directory which is an expanded .oxt. These expanded .oxt folders are: * dict-en-au-2008-12-15.oxt\ (21.4MB on disk) * dict-en-nz-2008-12-03.oxt\ (21.3MB) * dict-en.oxt\ (24.2 MB) * en_CA_2_0_0.oxt\ (21.4MB) * en_US.oxt\ (704 kB!) * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.17 MB) I can understand .oxt *files* being part of the installed set in the Program Files area. I don't understand why all caching is not in the Application Data space, but I also wonder whether keeping more data inside of the .oxt package might also be productive. I think the point is that there are some odd dependencies and redundancies here. I don't profess to understand them. I am only observing their presence in the code and user profile footprints. observing is the trivial part here, we are aware of this far not optimal situation. The point is that we had to change pre-packaged extensions to bundled ones because of the license of dictionaries. And the whole extension management is of course very complex, too complex and fragile. We have definitely to do some redesign/ cleanup here. But as always the work has to be done Volunteers are welcome. Juergen - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:35 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1 [ ... ] The one directory structure issue that we do get complaints about is our placement of dictionaries. We've heard from admins some concern about the size of our per-user profile, with the argument that immutable files like dictionaries should not be in the profile. For example, one admin was managing a training lab where he needed to reset the profiles for each training machine via a script. He did this by copying from a master profile over the network. But each profile directory was something like 40MB, due to inclusion of the dictionaries. [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/24/2013 11:23 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (and to the test pages that may replace it for future releases) in the Ah, right, there is still some work to do. Thanks for this little reminder. ;-) I think Eastern is quite nice to make some changes. hope that this will make it easier to identify the official site for people who use search engines. If you believe that this change won't have the intended effect, or on the contrary that Official Site should also be added to other sections of our website, feel free to modify the pages accordingly. It's good to point this out in the webpages to make it clear in the Google serach results. However, when searching now it's already very good - even when Google has not yet optimized the search results: http://www.google.de/search?q=openoffice+download+official The first result is already our download page. But no one queries for openoffice download official. They search for openoffice or openoffice download For those queries we do see the wrong sites showing up via sponsored placements. By putting official' in our title and description we help the user notice the right site in the listings, even if there is a sponsored ad on the page as well. -Rob hopefully yes... The next 3 results point to www.openoffice.org webpages and the sixth is the blog post with How to Safely Download Apache OpenOffice. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.
Apple's Mac App Store Page
[In Apple's World, there are consumers and then there are developers, and geez, but they make it hard for the two to meet. Finding even this preliminary information was not obvious, and I even have developer accounts.] Apple has guidelines for submitting apps to their Mac App Store. (Note, the Mac App Store is not the same as the iOS App Store, though I suppose they'll eventually converge.) The portal page for the Mac App Store: * https://developer.apple.com/appstore/index.html Clicking on the Mac App Store Guidelines link puts you on page demanding your Apple ID login/pwd to proceed. (This is normal for Apple, and I did this the last time we promoted OpenOffice.org on the Apple applications list, back in 2010 or so; and, embarrassingly enough, what eventuated, at least for a while, was that my name was listed as the applications. Sigh.) So, I have a developer membership, however, it's lapsed… and costs 99 US big ones to renew it per annum. Sucks. So, unless someone gets the très important guidelines for applications, and it seems that one can get them only as an Apple dev. member, then…. Best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:59:07PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.2 MB), another folder, not the .oxt package. This is under ... share\prereg\bundled\ * presenter-screen.oxt\ (3.2 MB), another folder, same place as the preceding one These two are now part of the normal installation, no longer extensions. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpA0KW1KEK6K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apple's Mac App Store Page
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: [In Apple's World, there are consumers and then there are developers, and geez, but they make it hard for the two to meet. Finding even this preliminary information was not obvious, and I even have developer accounts.] Apple has guidelines for submitting apps to their Mac App Store. (Note, the Mac App Store is not the same as the iOS App Store, though I suppose they'll eventually converge.) The portal page for the Mac App Store: * https://developer.apple.com/appstore/index.html Clicking on the Mac App Store Guidelines link puts you on page demanding your Apple ID login/pwd to proceed. (This is normal for Apple, and I did this the last time we promoted OpenOffice.org on the Apple applications list, back in 2010 or so; and, embarrassingly enough, what eventuated, at least for a while, was that my name was listed as the applications. Sigh.) So, I have a developer membership, however, it's lapsed… and costs 99 US big ones to renew it per annum. Sucks. So, unless someone gets the très important guidelines for applications, and it seems that one can get them only as an Apple dev. member, then…. Hmm so you can't even see the requirements unless you pay them $99. It's good to be the king... There is some info on Wikipedia that may or may not be correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_App_Store There are a couple anti-competitive clauses there that could cause us to be disallowed, particularly these two prohibitions: -- Software that is similar in look or function to current Apple products (e.g. Mac App Store, Finder, iTunes, iChat, etc.). -- Software similar to other software that is already released in the Mac App Store. Examples given: Adobe Illustrator and CorelDraw, Photoshop Lightroom Apple Aperture, Cinema 4D and 3D Max, etc.. -Rob Best louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
@Ariel, This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change for 4.0 or something else? The ones quoted below were installed with the normal installation (which is why they are under C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\). I did nothing to obtain them as extensions. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ariel Constenla-Haile [mailto:arie...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 16:27 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1 On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:59:07PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.2 MB), another folder, not the .oxt package. This is under ... share\prereg\bundled\ * presenter-screen.oxt\ (3.2 MB), another folder, same place as the preceding one These two are now part of the normal installation, no longer extensions. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
updating Splashscreen
The new-ish splashcreen improves on the old, which had the charm of being written in not-quite-colloquial English. But now its as charming as a gap toothed smile. Things are missing. So: NOW: Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. This product was created by Apache Software Foundation, based on Apache OpenOffice. Apache OpenOffice acknowledges all community members, especially those mentioned at credits url. — IMPROVED: Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. This product, Apache OpenOffice, was created by The Apache Software Foundation and is based on code hosted by the ASF. We recognize the contributions of the members constituting the Apache OpenOffice Project and in particular credit those mentioned at -- -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: @Ariel, This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change for 4.0 or something else? Yes, by now I meant right-now, on trunk (it would be helpful if people -reading this mailing list, not normal users- use the builds from the build bots; it would help finding bugs/regressions early, not one week before voting the release). The ones quoted below were installed with the normal installation (which is why they are under C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\). I did nothing to obtain them as extensions. You are right, these extensions were bundled with the installation; IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to develop these as extensions (at least the presentation minimizer and the presenter screen, that have no external dependencies). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpQ82Ob82jTe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:34:52PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: The one directory structure issue that we do get complaints about is our placement of dictionaries. We've heard from admins some concern about the size of our per-user profile, with the argument that immutable files like dictionaries should not be in the profile. There is an old set of configure switches that allows pointing to directories for the spelling/thesaurus/hyphenation dictionaries. It still works on Linux, where it is more useful: most free software use the same dictionaries, so Linux distributions configure them to share all the same dictionaries in a single, shared location: /usr/share/myspell/ /usr/share/mythes/ /usr/share/hyphen/ It might be useful to turn this into a runtime configuration option, instead of setting it at build-time; system administrators could change this with simple xcu configuration files. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpvwuPrcIFiI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: updating Splashscreen
On 13-03-24, at 22:53 , Marco A.G.Pinto marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hi! Remember that the year should be 2013 and not 2012? yes, there's that, too. And if all goes according to no plan at all, next year will likely be 2014. Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto On 25-03-2013 02:08, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: The new-ish splashcreen improves on the old, which had the charm of being written in not-quite-colloquial English. But now its as charming as a gap toothed smile. Things are missing. So: NOW: Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. This product was created by Apache Software Foundation, based on Apache OpenOffice. Apache OpenOffice acknowledges all community members, especially those mentioned at credits url. — IMPROVED: Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. This product, Apache OpenOffice, was created by The Apache Software Foundation and is based on code hosted by the ASF. We recognize the contributions of the members constituting the Apache OpenOffice Project and in particular credit those mentioned at -- -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- emails_signature2012d.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office
Hi Reina, Did you install the Symphony successfully? If not, please try to remove the Symphony work space firstly. The path of it is like this: C:\Documents and Settings\username\IBM\Lotus\Symphony. Thanks. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.orgwrote: Hello Reina, I trust you are well. It would be useful to have the rplauncher.og that is left when your install of Symphony fails to open. Another person has expressed interest in accessibility for blind users. I have included Jennifer on this note. I don't know how much the work of Do It Blind is tied to 508 Compliance. Regards, - Dennis My name is Jennifer McKinley. I am the co-founder of Do It Blind. My business partner, John Martyn, and I would like to work with Open Office to make it blind accessible. We have already developed scripts for other very popular programs like iTunes, Rhapsody, and Spotify. Please visit doitblind.com for more information on them. Who can we speak with in regards to making Open Office blind accessible? Please email me or call me. We appreciate your time. Thank you! Jennifer McKinley Co-Founder, Do It Blind, LLC doitblind.com 505-382-2641 -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 13:09 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: 'Waldorf PC' Subject: RE: Problems with Accessibility in Open Office A. I was able to install Symphony 3.0.1 and the Fix Pack 2. I also have obtained the rcplauncher.log, which is rather interesting. B. When you are able to get Symphony operating, there is a feature that will be interesting to understand the accessibility of. There is a sidebar on the right of the Symphony window that includes a variety of dialogs and a way to select among them. This is also a feature that is being worked up for Apache OpenOffice 4.x. [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
