Re: final look at website test page...and slightly smaller logo
On Jul 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/21/2013 10:01 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Well I thought the VERY BIG logo didn't look so good after all -- here's a slightly smaller version http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/test/http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/ Looks also good. However, it's the main entry page for users. IMHO it is OK to use the bigger one. Thanks. maybe for now, we use the same logo on both websites -- this new one. I like your slightly smaller version. It looks great! Regards, Dave Committed, but not published since LOTS of DL stuff pending. So, we will go with this one I think. Another odd thing -- the LARGE earlier logo I rendered: http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/AOO4_logo_**cropped.pnghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_logo_cropped.png I was able to render with transparent background -- this was from Chris R's original svg. The new ones in: http://www.openoffice.org/**marketing/art/galleries/logos/**aoo-working/http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ After the release we should definitely clean-up the logos in the different locations. That and more... ;} Marcus I don't seem to be able to render new svgs as transparent. So??? Either svg has changed or Gimp (new version) is broken. So, for right now -- logo has white background. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: availability of uploads and synchronize SF mirrors
Am 07/20/2013 07:40 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: Il giorno sabato 20 luglio 2013, Kay Schenk ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dejavascript:; wrote: Here a little update what I can see: 1. https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ The builds seem to be completely received on SourceForge. So, for me it's done. We used 'staged' directories, as discussed before, Think we are ready to turn them on when it's time. I've now deleted the staged status from the new 4.0.0 directory. I expect that this attribute change has to be distributed to all mirrors. So, we should have enough time until tomorrow. Marcus 2. http://www.apache.org/dist/ yeah, I saw this also just nowh this one, where SF pulls from -- http://www.apache.org/dist/externaldist/ is in good shape. No openoffice directory and therefore no binary and source builds. Maybe Juergen and Infra are still working on this. I'll look again today evening/tomorrow morning (European timezone). Marcus Am 07/19/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: The vote closed successful and I have once again uploaded the files in the dist are on the people server. /www/www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/4.0.0 http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0 The relevant files for SF are under /www/www.apache.org/dist/**extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 http://www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 I hope the rsync url works now, if not please contact the infra people directly. rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external A complete file list can you find here http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-**4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-** externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.**txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt As I mentioned earlier I will be not available until next week Thursday. But I hope I can follow the release a little bit to have some fun with you all together ;-) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. rgds jan i - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: User Guides
2013/7/18 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I just noticed that the latest user guides we have is for OpenOffice.org 3.3, as below: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides I wonder if any one is willing to help to update the user guides for AOO 4.0? We have a separate doc mailing list and volunteers who have been working on the wiki here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide -Rob Thanks for the information, Rob! - Shenfeng (Simon) Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module
Hi, my name is Prince Soni, 3rd Year CSE from India. I know J2se and J2EE. I want to strong my grip in both these fields. Since this one would be my 1st open source project I have no Idea how to take part or contribute in open source. I am looking for a simple and popular project in these two field for now. Once I became comfortable I may take difficult one Thanx for your time
Re: release media files
On 21.07.2013 23:21, Drew Jensen wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing The new logo with the transparent background really improves the video a lot, very well done! ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
On 22 July 2013 10:55, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org wrote: On 21.07.2013 23:21, Drew Jensen wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing The new logo with the transparent background really improves the video a lot, very well done! Impressive work, well done. rgds jan I. ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Pasting HTML not possible in AOO 4.0?
Just preparing to update the Wikipedia article, and tried pasting from a web page into AOO 4.0.0 Writer. It gives Requested clipboard format not available. (The paste works fine in LO 4.0 and is formatted as one would expect it to just work.) Is this actually supposed to happen - no ability to c'n'p from a web page - or will it be a weirdness of my setup? Admittedly I'm running the Windows binary under Wine ... - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? Thanks. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
l10n branch.
HI. I have deleted branches/l10n and created branches/l10n40 This was done to secure, that I work with a copy of our trunk at the time of release. Merging the trunk to the old l10n looked too error prone. Work will now commence on l10n40. As suggested by jsc, I will test and integrate genLang in the branch only, and then release it for general testing. Plan is to have genLang available at the time where translation for 4.1 starts. any thoughts ? rgds jan I.
Re: New Extensions website goes live!
2013/7/19 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:01:12PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: The download buttons for externally hosted extensions (or at least for this one: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql-driver-apache-openoffice ) give an Access denied error page. Confirmed also with http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/eurooffice-nonlinear-solver We are fixing a number of issues like that. I can tell we didn't loose any download information in the process, but some projects were using the 'thank you link' to actually serve downloads and we are working to recover those as well. Roberto -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: final look at website test page...and slightly smaller logo
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/21/2013 10:01 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Well I thought the VERY BIG logo didn't look so good after all -- here's a slightly smaller version http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/test/ http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/ Looks also good. However, it's the main entry page for users. IMHO it is OK to use the bigger one. Thanks. maybe for now, we use the same logo on both websites -- this new one. I like your slightly smaller version. It looks great! Regards, Dave Thanks... :) Committed, but not published since LOTS of DL stuff pending. So, we will go with this one I think. Another odd thing -- the LARGE earlier logo I rendered: http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/AOO4_logo_**cropped.png http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_logo_cropped.png I was able to render with transparent background -- this was from Chris R's original svg. The new ones in: http://www.openoffice.org/**marketing/art/galleries/logos/**aoo-working/ http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ After the release we should definitely clean-up the logos in the different locations. That and more... ;} Marcus I don't seem to be able to render new svgs as transparent. So??? Either svg has changed or Gimp (new version) is broken. So, for right now -- logo has white background. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: New Extensions website goes live!
2013/7/13 Tsutomu Uchino hanya.r...@gmail.com Hi, Thank you for gread features. When I added new release as Host on this site, it got wrong version number of the package [1]. The package contains version value=0.2.4/ but 4.0 is shown. It seems minimal-version was used for the package version. This bug has been fixed, thanks for heads up. Roberto [1] http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/projectrelease/mersenne-twister-random-number-generator-add-40 Regards - Tsutomu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing Second note - the license CC-BY-NC-SA - that's just because of the little 7 second blurb of music, I must use the NC license for that, if that is a problem with anyone I don't mind avoiding that. Otherwise, I'll follow up with mail about a second video (with features highlights) in a separate mail thread. As I said earlier, I'm not connected to the internet regularly, so I've not (and wouldn't able to again before Wed.) posted to any media sites, if this looks acceptable and you folks can make use of it, in any way, please do. Thanks, //drew nice! I really like the way you did the fade-in... On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Building the PDF Import extension
Hello, when I wrote about the pdf import addon not working on AOO4 / Win 8 I overlooked Regina's mail. The new extension works perfectly well on AOO4 running on Windows 8. Sorry for my complaint! Max Am 21.07.2013 15:43, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: OpenOffice 4 (like all previous versions) does not include the PDF Import extension. But, while in OpenOffice 3.4.x it was enough to download it from the Extensions site, Ariel wrote that he expects that a PDF Import Extension built for OpenOffice 3.x won't work except on 64-bit Linux, due to the stlport changes. PDF Import is by far the most popular extension, so I'd like that we are prepared if we receive questions. Due to a GPL dependency, it's not shipped with OpenOffice, but questions will come here so... I tried downloading the extension from http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/874/ and it works nicely, but I'm in the exceptional case (I tested on 64-bit Linux, the only platform where the old extension is expected to work). Do people who use other operating systems have problems? This is tracked in issue 122733. Ariel has build the extension newly. Find it in http://people.apache.org/~arielch/extensions/aoo-pdf-import/ I have tested the version aoo-pdf-import-0.0.1-windows-x86.oxt on Windows7. It works fine. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: mwiki contact page.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. Regards, -Rob rgds jan i - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
Am 07/22/2013 04:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? Thanks. Hm, I cannot login. Maybe it's because of the current LDAP issue (see the today's mail to all committers) but I cannot login. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? Thanks. Hm, I cannot login. Maybe it's because of the current LDAP issue (see the today's mail to all committers) but I cannot login. Same happened to me. But I was able to reset my id via http://id.apache.org using the Forgot your password? link. -Rob Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
Am 07/22/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb janI: On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janIj...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. which I why I wrote sounds good to me. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. +1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual mail adresses (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool) Yes, with this formatting it's OK. However, we should extend the contact_us.html were needed to point to this site from, e.g., Wiki or Forum. No need to create a new page for such purpose - ahm, if this was planned. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. which I why I wrote sounds good to me. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. +1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual mail adresses (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool) rgds jan I. Regards, -Rob rgds jan i - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Release coordination proposal
Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
Am 07/22/2013 06:38 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? IMHO yes. The very most is from me. I've tried to fix many HTML errors from the view point of the W3C Validator. I've verified the commits on the staged webpages and they look still OK. Hm, I cannot login. Maybe it's because of the current LDAP issue (see the today's mail to all committers) but I cannot login. Same happened to me. But I was able to reset my id via http://id.apache.org using the Forgot your password? link. Wow, great. Now I can access Kay's link and do commits again. Thanks a lot! Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. That sounds good. I'll set my alarm so I am up for 6am, but if someone in Europe pushes this first then I'll just enjoy my coffee. -Rob -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 06:38 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-**site/publish?diff=1https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? IMHO yes. The very most is from me. I've tried to fix many HTML errors from the view point of the W3C Validator. I've verified the commits on the staged webpages and they look still OK. Hm, I cannot login. Maybe it's because of the current LDAP issue (see the today's mail to all committers) but I cannot login. Same happened to me. But I was able to reset my id via http://id.apache.org using the Forgot your password? link. Wow, great. Now I can access Kay's link and do commits again. Thanks a lot! Marcus --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org ok -- done! a backlog of stuff some of which are needed to do anything further... @Marcus -- I won't be doing anything else until the main DL stuff is in. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Pasting HTML not possible in AOO 4.0?
On 22 July 2013 15:10, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/22 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Is this actually supposed to happen - no ability to c'n'p from a web page - or will it be a weirdness of my setup? Admittedly I'm running the Windows binary under Wine ... That's the answer... ;) Copy-paste from web work without problems on native Linux binaries. Note that Linux clipboard works different from windows clipboard: I think that if you copy from a win firefox running on wine to the win AOO running on wine you'll have no problem, but copying from a Linux app and pasting to a win app running atop of wine... well, that's wine's problem/bug. Yeah, I just got Windows LO to do the same :-) Sorry to trouble the list! - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Well, I did send that note an hour ago ;-) -Rob For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: staged web server -- can we publish what's there now?
Am 07/22/2013 07:05 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 06:38 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:52 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: Please see: https://cms.apache.org/ooo-**site/publish?diff=1https://cms.apache.org/ooo-site/publish?diff=1 Can we publish what is here? IMHO yes. The very most is from me. I've tried to fix many HTML errors from the view point of the W3C Validator. I've verified the commits on the staged webpages and they look still OK. Hm, I cannot login. Maybe it's because of the current LDAP issue (see the today's mail to all committers) but I cannot login. Same happened to me. But I was able to reset my id via http://id.apache.org using the Forgot your password? link. Wow, great. Now I can access Kay's link and do commits again. Thanks a lot! Marcus --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org ok -- done! a backlog of stuff some of which are needed to do anything further... @Marcus -- I won't be doing anything else until the main DL stuff is in. OK, I will then go on in the other mail thread. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Extension toolbar compatibility and 4.0, again
Hi, I'm a developer with Zotero. We currently distribute a LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org plugin for our software that provides rich citation functionality in OpenOffice/LibreOffice/NeoOffice, as well as plugins for Word for Mac and Word for Windows. I've read through the previous thread on changes to the toolbar in 4.0 (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201302.mbox/%3C51195E5E.304%40laposte.net%3E), but I'd like to emphasize that the changes to toolbar functionality in AOO 4 are quite problematic for us, not because the change to Addons.xcu is hard, but because having a separate extension for AOO 4 is somewhat of a nightmare from a support and distribution perspective. To give some background, users don't install our extension manually. Instead, it is installed either by an optional Firefox extension (in Zotero for Firefox) or automatically when our software is opened (in Zotero Standalone). At the moment, the same extension works with NeoOffice 3.0+, OpenOffice.org 3.0-3.3, AOO 3.4, LibreOffice 3.4-4.1. Unless there's a way to create a single extension that works with AOO 4 and LibreOffice or earlier versions of OOo, supporting AOO 4 would appear to require the following changes: 1. Adapt the extension to work with Apache OpenOffice. This is actually the easiest part. 2. Bundle two extensions with the LibreOffice plugin and Zotero Standalone (2MB more download size) or modify the extension locally on install to use a separate Addons.xcu file for AOO 4. 3. Detect AOO 4 and install a different extension there than we do in LibreOffice, AOO 3.4, and OOo. 4. Find a way to make the extension fix itself when AOO is upgraded (is this possible?), or at least present a dialog telling the user to reinstall the extension from within Zotero. While I realize that this is somewhat late in your release process, it would make us much happier if AOO 4 could use an alternative Addons.xcu file (Addons4.xcu?) if it exists. That way we wouldn't have to distribute multiple extensions, and our toolbar wouldn't break for our users when they upgrade to AOO 4. If this isn't a possibility, perhaps someone has a better suggestion for how we should handle this? Thanks, Simon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases
On 7/20/2013 1:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 15/07/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote: Currently the Windows buildbot of the SNAPSHOT tag does a weekly full build of all languages: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap Is any fully translated language missing from that list? Yes, ast. Should semi-translated languages be built too? The following have less than 20.000 words left (means, 75%+ done, more or less) and should ideally be built too: ca eu he hi id lt pl sv th tr ok - I committed this change. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Release coordination proposal
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:00:21 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Release coordination proposal OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus I noticed just two little details: - When I hover over the Download Apache Open Office 4.0.0 string, I get a caption Version - Milestone - Build - SVN rNº When I hover over the Click here [...] Windows (EXE) and Español string, I get a caption http://sourceforge.net; Is that difference intended? - The Release Notes link links (yes, that's what it does;) to the editable version of the cwiki Release Notes, instead of the fixed HTML. Is that correct? HTH Cheers! Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus So far, all I found was the checksums link in the right hand column goes to checksums for 3.4.1. Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Manuel del Valle m...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:00:21 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Release coordination proposal OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus I noticed just two little details: - When I hover over the Download Apache Open Office 4.0.0 string, I get a caption Version - Milestone - Build - SVN rNº When I hover over the Click here [...] Windows (EXE) and Español string, I get a caption http://sourceforge.net; Is that difference intended? I think these may be new features! :) I like this! - The Release Notes link links (yes, that's what it does;) to the editable version of the cwiki Release Notes, instead of the fixed HTML. Is that correct? Yes, this is correct. HTH Cheers! Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
On 2013/07/20 06:26, Juergen Schmidt said: Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 um 19:46 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:09 AM, janI wrote: It is in principle no good, that a single person decides if a vote is valid or not, it sort of invalidates the idea of voting. Hmm... ^^; I did not notice this following discussion. I suppose we are counting the votes, not the comments after the votes. That is, whether I comment as for the release blocker # or for missing the Traditional Chinese version or bc'z I'm krazzzy is irrelevant to my vote. The interpretation of the comments belong to the [DISCUSS] thread, not to this [VOTE] thread. So please still count me as -1, although this does not affect the result of the votes. I have to present my position as a member of our local community. Nevertheless, this release is great! It's really pity for me not able to involve in the process of this release. Thanks to Juergen and everybody on your hard work on this release. imacat's VOTE was not a Veto as you cannot veto a release. Enough misunderstandings here (I think that Jan was saying: Juergen cannot decide by himself whether a -1 is valid...). Anyway, let's update the tally to 24 +1 votes (14 binding) and 1 -1 vote (imacat, binding) and move on. As Juergen already wrote, we remain committed to make the traditional Chinese version available at the earliest occasion, it is already at 100% but it simply came too late to build/include it. In the meantime, it will be available as snapshot build. do whatever you want, from my point of view imacat voted on something that wasn't part of the vote. It remains an invalid vote for me. Juergen Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 08:30 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Manuel del Vallem...@outlook.com wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:00:21 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Release coordination proposal OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus I noticed just two little details: - When I hover over the Download Apache Open Office 4.0.0 string, I get a caption Version - Milestone - Build - SVN rNº When I hover over the Click here [...] Windows (EXE) and Español string, I get a caption http://sourceforge.net; Is that difference intended? I think these may be new features! :) I like this! Yes, I thought it would be more infomative to show some version information about the downloadable installation file instead of showing the download link to SourceForge as it is shown anyway when finally clicking. Marcus - The Release Notes link links (yes, that's what it does;) to the editable version of the cwiki Release Notes, instead of the fixed HTML. Is that correct? Yes, this is correct. HTH Cheers! Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 08:28 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus So far, all I found was the checksums link in the right hand column goes to checksums for 3.4.1. Yes, I've commented it out for the moment. @All: I've re-designed the other.html, so that all checksums are offered together with the binary in a single table cell (depending for the respective OS and language). See here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html With this we a) don't need a separate webpage just for checksums and b) have all links in a single place. PS: The URLs do not work yet but you can see the design and the intented way how it should work. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.orgwrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 08:24 PM, schrieb Manuel del Valle: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:00:21 +0200 From: marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Release coordination proposal OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus I noticed just two little details: - When I hover over the Download Apache Open Office 4.0.0 string, I get a caption Version - Milestone - Build - SVN rNº When I hover over the Click here [...] Windows (EXE) and Español string, I get a caption http://sourceforge.net; Is that difference intended? Ah, good catch. I've fixed it. - The Release Notes link links (yes, that's what it does;) to the editable version of the cwiki Release Notes, instead of the fixed HTML. Is that correct? Hm, I like it as it is better formatted. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.orgwrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 08:28 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apac**he.org/download/index.htmlhttp://apache.org/download/index.html htt**p://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus So far, all I found was the checksums link in the right hand column goes to checksums for 3.4.1. Yes, I've commented it out for the moment. @All: I've re-designed the other.html, so that all checksums are offered together with the binary in a single table cell (depending for the respective OS and language). See here: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**other_tables.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html With this we a) don't need a separate webpage just for checksums and b) have all links in a single place. PS: The URLs do not work yet but you can see the design and the intented way how it should work. Marcus Assuming a link can be found for the user, they can use the links at the bottom of the green DL box to get the checksum appropriate to their selection. So the problem is for folks who can NOT find an acceptable DL. I would say if you can get the incorrect URL situation fixed quickly, we should go with the new other page. Or, leave things as they are now, and maybe wait until after main release to work on this. Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 09:17 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 08:28 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apac**he.org/download/index.htmlhttp://apache.org/download/index.html htt**p://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Marcus So far, all I found was the checksums link in the right hand column goes to checksums for 3.4.1. Yes, I've commented it out for the moment. @All: I've re-designed the other.html, so that all checksums are offered together with the binary in a single table cell (depending for the respective OS and language). See here: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**other_tables.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html With this we a) don't need a separate webpage just for checksums and b) have all links in a single place. PS: The URLs do not work yet but you can see the design and the intented way how it should work. Marcus Assuming a link can be found for the user, they can use the links at the bottom of the green DL box to get the checksum appropriate to their selection. So the problem is for folks who can NOT find an acceptable DL. I would say if you can get the incorrect URL situation fixed quickly, we should go with the new other page. Or, leave things as they are now, and maybe wait until after main release to work on this. I think I can finalize this until next weekend. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[SourceForge] New defaults for AOO 4.0.0 release
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/ SourceForge has a nice feature that the green download button provides you with the respective build for your (or better: recognized) OS. Up to now it's AOO 3.4.1. I'll update this for AOO 4.0.0. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The small print under the download box has two lines for me: Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and SDK | and Signatures and Hashes: ASC , MD5 , SHA256 | Release Notes | Legacy Version 1) Is the first line supposed to end with a '|' character? 2) What should the legacy link go to now? Is 3.3.0 still legacy? If so, what is 3.4.1? We might need to reword and restructure that destination page, but I think it is OK for now. Only then I will publish to the live server. I verified download of the binaries, source and hash files, from a Windows 7 machine running Firefox. It looks good, Marcus! -Rob Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 08:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The last hints are fixed. So, when nothing else comes in we should be ready to go live with the new DL webages. Furthermore, the project's download webpage is also updated, of course until now just staged: http://openoffice.staging.**apache.org/downloads4test.htmlhttp://openoffice.staging.apache.org/downloads4test.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Before the night is coming I can finalize and publish the project's download webpage. sounds good to me! The main download webpage can be published at any time when you see fit. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
Il 22/07/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/22/2013 08:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The last hints are fixed. So, when nothing else comes in we should be ready to go live with the new DL webages. Everything looks nice, thanks! (just, maybe in other_tables.html the checksum links could be made in a smaller font size than exe). There is still one small issue to correct, but I'm not sure whether this is something Marcus can modify, so CCing Roberto. After I start the download (so, I am already on the SF page) I see: Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open productivity suite. We invite you to learn more about how to enhance your experience with OpenOffice; sign up to receive important notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next version of OpenOffice even better. This text is OK, but it has two links that should be updated: ooo-announce-subscr...@incubator.apache.org - announce-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html - http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 10:03 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Il 22/07/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/22/2013 08:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The last hints are fixed. So, when nothing else comes in we should be ready to go live with the new DL webages. Everything looks nice, thanks! (just, maybe in other_tables.html the checksum links could be made in a smaller font size than exe). OK, will keep in mind. There is still one small issue to correct, but I'm not sure whether this is something Marcus can modify, so CCing Roberto. I don't see a section to edit the links in the Please contribute! box. So yes, this is for Roberto. After I start the download (so, I am already on the SF page) I see: Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open productivity suite. We invite you to learn more about how to enhance your experience with OpenOffice; sign up to receive important notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next version of OpenOffice even better. This text is OK, but it has two links that should be updated: ooo-announce-subscr...@incubator.apache.org - announce-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html - http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
wiki sysops link not working...
I don't know if this is related to previous discussions on the removal of contact items from MWiki-- I'm at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Administration the link to sysops is no longer working. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: [WWW]Forum landing page
Le 21/07/2013 20:00, janI a écrit : I am not sure who is actively administrating phpBB. The phpBB group only contains imacat and terrye. Terry left so imacat is the only one. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: wiki sysops link not working...
On 22 July 2013 22:59, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is related to previous discussions on the removal of contact items from MWiki-- I'm at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Administration the link to sysops is no longer working. no this cannot have worked since the upgrade. it was just a matter of editing the page and adding the correct link. Its corrected now. have a nice evening (if that fits with your TZ), rgds jan I. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: [WWW]Forum landing page
On 22 July 2013 22:59, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 21/07/2013 20:00, janI a écrit : I am not sure who is actively administrating phpBB. The phpBB group only contains imacat and terrye. Terry left so imacat is the only one. I suspected that, but was not sure if andrea also had access. imacat told me earlier that she is busy until end of this month, so I take it will have to wait. We should however have a discussion again, about server support, the team we setup does not really work (at least seen from my POW). rgds jan I. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: wiki sysops link not working...
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 22 July 2013 22:59, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is related to previous discussions on the removal of contact items from MWiki-- I'm at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Administration the link to sysops is no longer working. no this cannot have worked since the upgrade. it was just a matter of editing the page and adding the correct link. Its corrected now. have a nice evening (if that fits with your TZ), rgds jan I. thank you! all good now... -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: [WWW]Forum landing page
janI wrote: On 22 July 2013 22:59, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 21/07/2013 20:00, janI a écrit : I am not sure who is actively administrating phpBB. The phpBB group only contains imacat and terrye. Terry left so imacat is the only one. I suspected that, but was not sure if andrea also had access. I have access to both the forum (meaning that I have an account for web login there) and the machine hosting it (SSH access), but in both cases I have normal user privileges, so I cannot administer either the forum or the machine hosting it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: 2) What should the legacy link go to now? Is 3.3.0 still legacy? If so, what is 3.4.1? We might need to reword and restructure that destination page, but I think it is OK for now. In this context I understand legacy release as a release from a former instance - here Sun/Oracle. With the planned EOL for 3.4 this can be cleaned-up, too. Thought the planned EOL was for 3.3. Not that an EOL for 3.4 doesn't make sense, given 3.4.1... Don
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: 2) What should the legacy link go to now? Is 3.3.0 still legacy? If so, what is 3.4.1? We might need to reword and restructure that destination page, but I think it is OK for now. In this context I understand legacy release as a release from a former instance - here Sun/Oracle. With the planned EOL for 3.4 this can be cleaned-up, too. Thought the planned EOL was for 3.3. Not that an EOL for 3.4 doesn't make sense, given 3.4.1... Ups, you are right. I meant of course the planned EOL of 3.3.0. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
Am 07/22/2013 06:12 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/22/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb janI: On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janIj...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. which I why I wrote sounds good to me. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. +1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual mail adresses (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool) Yes, with this formatting it's OK. However, we should extend the contact_us.html were needed to point to this site from, e.g., Wiki or Forum. No need to create a new page for such purpose - ahm, if this was planned. ;-) I updated the webpage and added some text and links at the end: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/contact_us.html Feel free to improve. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [WWW]Forum landing page
On Jul 22, 2013 11:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: janI wrote: On 22 July 2013 22:59, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 21/07/2013 20:00, janI a écrit : I am not sure who is actively administrating phpBB. The phpBB group only contains imacat and terrye. Terry left so imacat is the only one. I suspected that, but was not sure if andrea also had access. I have access to both the forum (meaning that I have an account for web login there) and the machine hosting it (SSH access), but in both cases I have normal user privileges, so I cannot administer either the forum or the machine hosting it. you should also have karma to reboot and/or restart the form, which is all you need for a quick problem solving. when the vm_team was started we got a mail with allowed commands from gncdonald (I might have copied the commands). I dont have access to my old mails. so we are down to imacat (at least for the moment) for changing backup strategy. rgds jan i. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
On Jul 22, 2013 11:50 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 06:12 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/22/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb janI: On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janIj...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. which I why I wrote sounds good to me. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. +1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual mail adresses (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool) Yes, with this formatting it's OK. However, we should extend the contact_us.html were needed to point to this site from, e.g., Wiki or Forum. No need to create a new page for such purpose - ahm, if this was planned. ;-) I updated the webpage and added some text and links at the end: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/contact_us.html Feel free to improve. Does a user really need to subscribe to dev@ to get e.g. help with wiki login ? I dont think that is very user friendly. rgds jan I Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: availability of uploads and synchronize SF mirrors
2013/7/22 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 07/20/2013 07:40 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: Il giorno sabato 20 luglio 2013, Kay Schenk ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de** javascript:; wrote: Here a little update what I can see: 1. https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/ https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ The builds seem to be completely received on SourceForge. So, for me it's done. We used 'staged' directories, as discussed before, Think we are ready to turn them on when it's time. I've now deleted the staged status from the new 4.0.0 directory. I expect that this attribute change has to be distributed to all mirrors. So, we should have enough time until tomorrow. The files are all already propagated, unstaging happens exactly when you delete the status. Roberto Marcus 2. http://www.apache.org/dist/ yeah, I saw this also just nowh this one, where SF pulls from -- http://www.apache.org/dist/**externaldist/http://www.apache.org/dist/externaldist/ is in good shape. No openoffice directory and therefore no binary and source builds. Maybe Juergen and Infra are still working on this. I'll look again today evening/tomorrow morning (European timezone). Marcus Am 07/19/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: The vote closed successful and I have once again uploaded the files in the dist are on the people server. /www/www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/4.0.0 http://www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0 The relevant files for SF are under /www/www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/**extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 ** http://www.apache.org/dist/**extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 ** I hope the rsync url works now, if not please contact the infra people directly. rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external A complete file list can you find here http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-** openoffice-**4.0.0.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-**4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-**4.0.0.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-**http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-** externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-** externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt As I mentioned earlier I will be not available until next week Thursday. But I hope I can follow the release a little bit to have some fun with you all together ;-) Juergen --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: availability of uploads and synchronize SF mirrors
Am 07/23/2013 12:02 AM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2013/7/22 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 07/20/2013 07:40 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: Il giorno sabato 20 luglio 2013, Kay Schenk ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de** javascript:; wrote: Here a little update what I can see: 1. https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/ https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ The builds seem to be completely received on SourceForge. So, for me it's done. We used 'staged' directories, as discussed before, Think we are ready to turn them on when it's time. I've now deleted the staged status from the new 4.0.0 directory. I expect that this attribute change has to be distributed to all mirrors. So, we should have enough time until tomorrow. The files are all already propagated, unstaging happens exactly when you delete the status. OK, good to know. Maybe a general problem, a little hint for fixing: ;-) I've unchecked the box and hit on [Save] several times. But the hint staged remained behind the folder name. Then I have reloaded the complete webpage and now it was removed. Marcus 2. http://www.apache.org/dist/ yeah, I saw this also just nowh this one, where SF pulls from -- http://www.apache.org/dist/**externaldist/http://www.apache.org/dist/externaldist/ is in good shape. No openoffice directory and therefore no binary and source builds. Maybe Juergen and Infra are still working on this. I'll look again today evening/tomorrow morning (European timezone). Marcus Am 07/19/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: The vote closed successful and I have once again uploaded the files in the dist are on the people server. /www/www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/4.0.0 http://www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0 The relevant files for SF are under /www/www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/**extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 ** http://www.apache.org/dist/**extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0http://www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0 ** I hope the rsync url works now, if not please contact the infra people directly. rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external A complete file list can you find here http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-** openoffice-**4.0.0.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-**4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-**4.0.0.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-**http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-** externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo4.0_files_dist-** externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt As I mentioned earlier I will be not available until next week Thursday. But I hope I can follow the release a little bit to have some fun with you all together ;-) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mwiki contact page.
2013/7/22 janI j...@apache.org On Jul 22, 2013 11:50 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 06:12 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/22/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb janI: On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janIj...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about the wiki are very, very, very few in number. They will be best served by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on the main website: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a section to http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html like the following: * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice websites... - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Website] in the subject - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Mwiki] in the subject - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert [Pootle] in the subject Regards, Andrea. This suggestion looks very reasonable to me. In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would use some aliases to see where the mail come from. web-admin@ -- dev@ wiki-admin@ -- dev@ Marcus sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge difference' having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr defitinition choose the easy road. Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want. They only write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer to what they were looking for. So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these appropriately on the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK. The idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page that already has these other options. So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they have a question, will have a product support question. Some, but very few, will have an admin-related question. It is OK to tell how to get admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place, how to get product support, and make the product support more prominent by listing it first. That explains the ordering of information on the contact page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be. which I why I wrote sounds good to me. Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is to use URL's of the form: mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle]. +1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual mail adresses (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool) Yes, with this formatting it's OK. However, we should extend the contact_us.html were needed to point to this site from, e.g., Wiki or Forum. No need to create a new page for such purpose - ahm, if this was planned. ;-) I updated the webpage and added some text and links at the end: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/contact_us.html Feel free to improve. Does a user really need to subscribe to dev@ to get e.g. help with wiki login ? I dont think that is very user friendly. Indeed. Asking users that only need to resolve one problem to expose their private email addresses on a public list is not good, but asking them to also subscribe to a list with a hundred email/day is really bad. Just think about the number of please unsubscribe emails that will come later... Regards Ricardo rgds jan I Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
Am 07/22/2013 09:35 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/22/2013 08:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The last hints are fixed. So, when nothing else comes in we should be ready to go live with the new DL webages. Furthermore, the project's download webpage is also updated, of course until now just staged: http://openoffice.staging.apache.org/downloads4test.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Before the night is coming I can finalize and publish the project's download webpage. Done. The main download webpage can be published at any time when you see fit. The main download webpages are now up-to-date and just need to be put on the Live server. So, you can do this when you see the time has come. Go, Apache OpenOffice 4, go! :-) Nighty night everyone. Marcus Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 09:35 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/22/2013 08:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, I've updated the DL webpages. After fixing some broken links, I think it's OK and ready for a review: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html The last hints are fixed. So, when nothing else comes in we should be ready to go live with the new DL webages. Furthermore, the project's download webpage is also updated, of course until now just staged: http://openoffice.staging.**apache.org/downloads4test.htmlhttp://openoffice.staging.apache.org/downloads4test.html Only then I will publish to the live server. Before the night is coming I can finalize and publish the project's download webpage. Done. The main download webpage can be published at any time when you see fit. The main download webpages are now up-to-date and just need to be put on the Live server. So, you can do this when you see the time has come. Go, Apache OpenOffice 4, go! :-) Nighty night everyone. Marcus Sleep well knowing you did a great job! :) Am 07/22/2013 07:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 05:49 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. This was already planned to do. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? Hm, in a couple of hours it's bed time in Hamburg, So, I need to publish the new things earlier. I think in 1 or 2 hours, then I have some time to correct faulty things. Yep! Do it! I think this is what Rob meant. We do the bulk of the DL stuff WITHOUT the rebranding until tomorrow. For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. Marcus A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. Branding changes are now in staging for www.openoffice.org: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ So, this one is available for publishing, along with all the download changes, etc that went in today. A surprisingly quick refresh. Any problems? I'm getting error messages on project site that I can only do CHECKOUTs. Not sure what the problem is. :( I'll try again in an hour or so and see if I can get them committed. If I can't, I'll file an issue with the files attached and post the issue number here. later... -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Can we do something like this? Two stage: release and announce. Release == put the 4.0 files into production on SourceForge, update our download web page to serve 4.0 files by default. Announce == go live with news on front page, header announcement on every page (branding.mdtext), announcement email, blog post, social media, new logo on website, etc. For the Release part, can we do that end-of-day today, say in a couple of hours? For the announcement part, this waits for the ASF press release to go out tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6am New York time. This will give us some time today to: 1) verify the downloads are working 2) add the correct download links to the NL pages. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org A sterling idea! and one I was thinking about also! +1 I was just about to suggest holding off on the web site branding changes until much later today. But, this idea is better. Re site branding updates -- later today (1700 PDT? or suggest something an alternate time) after 'Release' stage, I will commit/port branding/site changes to staging -- they're not there yet -- so someone else can publish this if need be. I will NOT be available at 0600 EDT -- later like 1100 EDT probably. Branding changes are now in staging for www.openoffice.org: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ So, this one is available for publishing, along with all the download changes, etc that went in today. A surprisingly quick refresh. Any problems? I'm getting error messages on project site that I can only do CHECKOUTs. Not sure what the problem is. :( I'll try again in an hour or so and see if I can get them committed. If I can't, I'll file an issue with the files attached and post the issue number here. later... Ok, all good...both sides updated with new branding... http://openoffice.staging.apache.org/ Hopefully, good to be published... Sweet dreams, people! :) -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
