problems with office
Good morning. In just the past couple of days, problems have developed when I open office. A notification comes up on screen which says: The last time you opened Openoffice, it unexpectedly quit while opening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again? If you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the window yourself. It then gives the choice of Don’t reopen or Reopen. Regardless of which choice I make, the notification does not disappear from screen. I also can no longer give commands to edit, save, print etc. on any page I am working on, and have to physically drag the item into printer to get it printed. Also I can no longer quite Openoffice, and have to Force Quit it every time. I cannot shut down the computer until I have forced quit as it cancels shutdown each time. Any ideas please?! I have already reinstalled Openoffice, replacing it with what was already on my computer, but this has made no difference. Many thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have. Susan McCrum - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: problems with office
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:22:33 + Susan McCrum sukiemcc...@hotmail.com wrote: Good morning. In just the past couple of days, problems have developed when I open office. A notification comes up on screen which says: The last time you opened Openoffice, it unexpectedly quit while opening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again? If you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the window yourself. It then gives the choice of Don’t reopen or Reopen. Regardless of which choice I make, the notification does not disappear from screen. I also can no longer give commands to edit, save, print etc. on any page I am working on, and have to physically drag the item into printer to get it printed. Also I can no longer quite Openoffice, and have to Force Quit it every time. I cannot shut down the computer until I have forced quit as it cancels shutdown each time. Any ideas please?! I have already reinstalled Openoffice, replacing it with what was already on my computer, but this has made no difference. Many thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have. Susan McCrum If you are using a Mac look at this thread https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755 In particular, the postings of lgusaas are the important ones. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: problems with office
On 2014-01-18, 2:22 AM Susan McCrum wrote concerning problems with office: Good morning. In just the past couple of days, problems have developed when I open office. A notification comes up on screen which says: The last time you opened Openoffice, it unexpectedly quit while opening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again? If you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the window yourself. It then gives the choice of Don’t reopen or Reopen. Regardless of which choice I make, the notification does not disappear from screen. I also can no longer give commands to edit, save, print etc. on any page I am working on, and have to physically drag the item into printer to get it printed. Also I can no longer quite Openoffice, and have to Force Quit it every time. I cannot shut down the computer until I have forced quit as it cancels shutdown each time. You need to delete the folder org.openoffice.script.savedState. It is in the Saved Application State folder in your User/Library. See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755#p244931 -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list – replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggested modifications to Open Office Draw
Forwarding Armin's answer (below) to Ian who is not subscribed. Andrea On 16/01/2014 Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Ian, thanks for your suggestions, much appreciated. Some are pretty interesting. Comments inline... On 15.01.2014 20:27, Ian Symons wrote: Ian Symons ian.sym...@yahoo.com.au 15 Jan 2014 dev@openoffice.apache.org RE: Suggested modifications to Open Office Draw Hello, The following suggestions generally have work around solutions, however performing such is a real pain when these are common actions. 1. Re the ruler on the left side, please orientate the numbers horizontally. The vertical numbering blends together and is unreadable. I have not seen it blend togethter, but I agree that these would be less irritating when done horizontally. 2. Re Snap Lines, Snap Points and Grid a. It is a common error that when positioning lines and shapes that the Snap Line or Snap Point is accidentally moved slightly. This is often not noticed immediately. Please provide an option to lock these Snaps into their set position. Doy you talk about - objects that get placed or - objects which help positioning (HelpLines, Grid, edges of existing objects, ...) here? If you have cases where there is a misplacement in snapping, please provide a reproducable example, this would be an error. Please note that snapping can be influenced while in action by pressing qualifiers (shift, ctrl, tab) and by changing snap features (see view/toolbars/options in draw). Note that you can create helplines with start to drag on the rulers, they even have an UI for setting them to precise positions. b. It would also be nice when dragging such Snaps that the X-Y co-ordinates are displayed during the dragging, This is in the last line of the app at the left; a text and measurements dependent of the type of action is displayed. The idea to keep this after MouseUp for a defined time is nice, especially since the reason is very good. and displayed for say 1 second after the mouse button is released. It provides confirmation to the user that the setting was not altered upon releasing the mouse button. c. It would be very good if the Snaps could be grouped with an object and: I do not understand if Snaps are the graphic objects or snap helper pobjects; of course graphic objects can be grouped. d. that upon copying and pasting onto another page that those Snaps are also retained (the position would be relative to where you placed the group on the page). Also not clear. The grid on the destinatopnmay be defined dofferent, do you want that to be changed when pasting? e. I do not know if there is already a way to do this, but it would be a big help if when dragging Snaps that they would snap to the selected grid. They do depending on the settings f. And I do not see any way to specify the grid divisions. Again, this would be a help. See tools/options/draw/grid 3. Please provide a line circular arc tool that lets you: a. Specify the origin (point of rotation) b. Specify the radius c. Specify the arc begin angle d. Specify the arc end angle e. Allows an option to close the curve at the origin to create a segment In the drawing toolbar, use the rightmost dropdown from the toolbar itself, choose customize. Use add, Seelct drawing left, add what you need. Best is to add Ellipse, there are two, use the general one which adds another drop-down toolbox to the menu. 4. Please provide a line arc tool that lets you click on a line and convert it to a circular arc – the point would appear at the centre of the line and be dragged at a normal to the line So instead of Modify – To Curve you would also have Modify – To Circular Curve You should be able to do that using the Points mode (see icon or press F8 in draw/impress) and using the bezier stuff. 5. Please provide an option to allow a line to be specified in two ways, shown on the one dialog box a. Origin, length and angle b. Begin point and end point This is missing, only pos/size is available for the object, so if it's a line you can define the start/end point exactly. 6. It is a real major pain that intersecting lines cannot be selected and fragmented at their intersecting point(s). Please fix this. Not possible with lines; would need to constuct filled objects including the lines, using substract and extract the results. Good suggestion to offer that with lines directly. 7. Please make it easy to add onto a line by clicking onto a line, selecting an end point, then selecting a line tool (line, arc, polygon) and then just use that line tool to extend the original line. You can add/remove/edit points using the edit points toolbar 8. Lastly, I know this is not intended to be a 3D Cad program. But a few features would help. a. Have the ability to group several shapes before rotation. This is possible, group or just multi-select what you need b. When the 3D view comes up, have buttons to select the front, top, bottom and side views (a total
Re: loadComponentFromURL - Solaris 11 OO 3.3
On 17/01/2014 18:51, Απόστολος Συρόπουλος wrote: What compiler are you using? I used gcc 4.7.2 and now I have switched to gcc 4.8.2. Sun Studio 12.3 [aka 5.12]. I think in failed in some awful C++ template mismatch in boost. I thought gcc was rejected by the configuration but I must try again - it really should not matter which compiler or OS is used! James. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Dictionary - en_GB - release it?
I think is safe to publish it. +1 I've test it and seems that is working correctly. Would have been better to provide at testcase since most of the enhancements can be tested. But I don't really see a reason to hold this back. On 1/16/14, Marco A.G.Pinto marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hello! One week has gone by and only one person replied to the testing e-mail, with a +1. Does this mean I can press the Publish button? Also, every month I update the dictionary with around 200-300 new unique words (we are only in half of January and the planned February release already has near 300 new unique words, which means that this month I worked harder). Should I update Apache's dictionary every month or only at a certain pace? I update Mozilla's version every month. Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto --- -- -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ask help
On 13/01/2014 jianren huang wrote: I export a open office file to PDF file, following symbols Copyright Ⓒ 2014 by Jian Ren Huang in open office file become Copyright □ 2014 by Jian Ren Huang in PDF file. As you describe it (the problem does not appear if you are on the same machine, but appears when you copy the PDF file to another machine) the issue seems related to fonts and not to OpenOffice. Note that we also have a users mailing list available for user support: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: wiki upgrade warning.
On 14/01/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote: jan i wrote: wiki.openoffice.org will be upgraded over the next days, starting 15january 8:00 UTC and ending 17january 23:00 UTC. Thanks! https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice updated accordingly. A notice is now shown on all wiki pages, so people can see it today. http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html (the line For problems with the Wiki) should be updated too. I've actually seen the wiki quite regularly online during the last days... Just for confirmation, is maintenance concluded? Can I remove the notices? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
English Dictionaries 2014-01-01
Hello! I pressed the "PUBLISH" button in the "English Dictionaries" but the new version, 2014-01-01, doesn't appear in replacement of the old one. I saw written somewhere in the site: " This extension is currently not published, please contact the system administrator at aooad...@users.sourceforge.net to have it published. This extension is currently not published, please contact the system administrator at aooad...@users.sourceforge.net to have it published." What shall I do? I am sending an e-mail anyway. Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto - --
MacOSX: How to get rid of the dialog The last time you opened ... ?
Hi there, experimenting different versions of AOO on MacOSX (10.9.1) I ended up getting an AOO popup reading: The last time you opened OpenOffice, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again?. No matter which button (Don't Reopen, Reopen) I press the dialog remains and in another window AOO starts. Chosing the menu Tools - Customize... yields no reaction. Choosing the menu OpenOffice - Preferences is grayed out (maybe the Java settings need adjustment as I have installed Apple's Java after receiving the new Mac). When closing all instances of AOO the dialog window remains on screen. I need to forcefully kill the soffice process, either interactively or using kill -9 on the command line. --- The next time I remove, install any version of AOO (in my case 4.0.0 and 4.0.1) the above repeats. Is there anything I could do to stop AOO from thinking to reopen the windows again? If it is stored with the user's profile, where is that user profile located on the Mac such that I can delete it (assuming that the Customize... and Preferences... menu items will become active again)? TIA for any pointers! ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MacOSX: How to get rid of the dialog The last time you opened ... ?
You need to delete the folder org.openoffice.script.savedState. It is in the Saved Application State folder in your User/Library. See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755#p244931 On 2014-01-18, 10:51 AM Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: Hi there, experimenting different versions of AOO on MacOSX (10.9.1) I ended up getting an AOO popup reading: The last time you opened OpenOffice, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again?. No matter which button (Don't Reopen, Reopen) I press the dialog remains and in another window AOO starts. Chosing the menu Tools - Customize... yields no reaction. Choosing the menu OpenOffice - Preferences is grayed out (maybe the Java settings need adjustment as I have installed Apple's Java after receiving the new Mac). When closing all instances of AOO the dialog window remains on screen. I need to forcefully kill the soffice process, either interactively or using kill -9 on the command line. --- The next time I remove, install any version of AOO (in my case 4.0.0 and 4.0.1) the above repeats. Is there anything I could do to stop AOO from thinking to reopen the windows again? If it is stored with the user's profile, where is that user profile located on the Mac such that I can delete it (assuming that the Customize... and Preferences... menu items will become active again)? TIA for any pointers! ---rony -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MacOSX: How to get rid of the dialog The last time you opened ... ?
Larry, will do it at home: thanks an awful lot for your fast reponse, kudos to you! ---rony On 18.01.2014 17:56, Larry Gusaas wrote: You need to delete the folder org.openoffice.script.savedState. It is in the Saved Application State folder in your User/Library. See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=55755#p244931 On 2014-01-18, 10:51 AM Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: Hi there, experimenting different versions of AOO on MacOSX (10.9.1) I ended up getting an AOO popup reading: The last time you opened OpenOffice, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to try to reopen its windows again?. No matter which button (Don't Reopen, Reopen) I press the dialog remains and in another window AOO starts. Chosing the menu Tools - Customize... yields no reaction. Choosing the menu OpenOffice - Preferences is grayed out (maybe the Java settings need adjustment as I have installed Apple's Java after receiving the new Mac). When closing all instances of AOO the dialog window remains on screen. I need to forcefully kill the soffice process, either interactively or using kill -9 on the command line. --- The next time I remove, install any version of AOO (in my case 4.0.0 and 4.0.1) the above repeats. Is there anything I could do to stop AOO from thinking to reopen the windows again? If it is stored with the user's profile, where is that user profile located on the Mac such that I can delete it (assuming that the Customize... and Preferences... menu items will become active again)? TIA for any pointers! ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fwd: ApacheCon NA 2014 Travel Assistance Applications now open!
AOO community -- here is information on travel assistance to ApacheCon in Denver in April. Please forward to other areas you feel might be interested. -- Forwarded message -- From: lewis john mcgibbney lewi...@apache.org Date: Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM Subject: ApacheCon NA 2014 Travel Assistance Applications now open! To: p...@apache.org Cc: travel-assista...@apache.org To: p...@apache.org Reply-To: travel-assista...@apache.org Hi pmcs@, The Travel Assistance Committee (TAC) are pleased to announce that travel assistance applications for ApacheCon North America 2014 are now open! This announcement serves as a purpose for you (pmcs@) to let members of your community know about both ApacheConNA 2014 and about the TAC assistance to attend. Could you please forward this announcement to your community, along if possible with information on how your project is involved in ApacheCon this year? ApacheConNA will be held in Denver, Colorado, April 7-9, 2014. TAC exists to help those that would like to attend ApacheCon events, but are unable to do so for financial reasons. For more info on this years applications and qualifying criteria please visit the TAC website at http://www.apache.org/travel/ . Applications are already open, so don't delay! *The important date*... - Friday February 7th 2014 - TAC applications close. Applicants have until the the closing date above to submit their applications (which should contain as much supporting material as required to efficiently and accurately process your request), this will enable TAC to announce successful awards shortly afterwards. As usual TAC expects to deal with a range of applications from a diverse range of backgrounds. We therefore encourage (as always) anyone thinking about sending in an application to do so ASAP. We look forward to greeting everyone in Denver, Colorado in April. Kind Regards Lewis (On behalf of the Travel Assistance Committee) -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason
Someone forgot to change the tip openoffice.org to openoffice
Hello! In the main site, when one hovers with the mouse over the "download" link at the top, it says "download openoffice.org" when the ".org" should be removed. Here is a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/f2TCXn6.png Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto --- --
Re: English Dictionaries 2014-01-01
Marco A.G.Pinto wrote: I pressed the PUBLISH button in the English Dictionaries but the new version, 2014-01-01, doesn't appear in replacement of the old one. Good! I'm happy that we have a new maintainer for it. As for the Unpublished status, I think it's unrelated. Probably you edited the extension description (not the release; the main extension description) and this triggered an anti-spam filter. *This extension is currently not published, please contact the system administrator at aooad...@users.sourceforge.net to have it published.* What shall I do? I am sending an e-mail anyway. If you already did what you were instructed to do, it's OK and you just need to wait. Then, when the extension is republished, you will still have to wait a few days (so it's normal that you see no updates available), then OpenOffice users will get notified of the new version. Should I update Apache's dictionary every month or only at a certain pace? I recommend that you check that everything works this time, and make the next update shortly before it can be integrated into OpenOffice 4.1.0 and publish it a few days after OpenOffice 4.1.0. This is what I did with 4.0.1. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MacOSX: How to get rid of the dialog The last time you opened ... ?
Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: Larry, will do it at home: thanks an awful lot for your fast reponse, kudos to you! Rony, please keep a copy of the wrong state. We were rather sure to have fixed this with https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119006 but apparently 4.0.1 still suffers from a similar problem, so the bug has been reopened and any feedback from a user who knows what he is doing is welcome. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Howto: Change the file association on Windows 7
On 14/01/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaJSTjG2rkQ Thanks, Raphael -- your videos are always helpful and welcome! Another one to link from the Installation instructions. Added to http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#fileassoc Thanks Raphael! Andrea - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone forgot to change the tip openoffice.org to openoffice
Fixed, thanks for the hint. Marcus Am 01/18/2014 09:06 PM, schrieb Marco A.G.Pinto: Hello! In the main site, when one hovers with the mouse over the download link at the top, it says download openoffice.org when the .org should be removed. Here is a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/f2TCXn6.png Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Am 01/17/2014 10:21 AM, schrieb Lex Ridley: Hi Dev Problem when trying to download legacy version. So when I click download nothing happens, just go to the Please contribute! page. The I went to select a mirror close to you but when i cant download from any, just shows http or ftp or rsynce but when you click it just goes into a directory It seems this area needs a deeper inspection and fix. However, it's the download webpage to get old and pre-AOO versions. The alternative that was created is this archive webpage [1]. I don't see any advantages to fix links and scripting to get it to work again. But it is still the #1 hint in Google [2]. Therefore I would suggest to just redirect the download link in the green box to the new archive webpage. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html [2] https://www.google.de/search?q=openoffice+legacy What do you think? Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Thanks for this hint to the broken links. We have created an alternative webpage to get old versions of OpenOffice (from Apache and pre-Apache times): http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html However, the usual disclaimer is still valid: Archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues (likey especially in the import filters for MS Office and graphics file formats). It is highly recommended *not* to use them except when there is no better choice. We recommend to always use the latest version that you can get from here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ Marcus Am 01/17/2014 10:21 AM, schrieb Lex Ridley: Hi Dev Problem when trying to download legacy version. So when I click download nothing happens, just go to the Please contribute! page. The I went to select a mirror close to you but when i cant download from any, just shows http or ftp or rsynce but when you click it just goes into a directory And most mirrors either don't have the files or the page doesn't exist! And the wiki and redirector both say object not found. Please assist. -- Best Regards Lex Ridley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility
Am 01/16/2014 04:22 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
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This can be done by updating the ssi setup
Add to all ssi.mdtext files a language property
Here is /fr/ssi.mdtext
language: fr
doctype: /doctype.html
brand: /fr/brand.html
footer: /footer.html
topnav: /fr/topnav.html
home: home
Edit template/skeleton.html
Changehtml tohtml xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; lang={{ ssi.headers.language }}
xml:lang={{ ssi.headers.language }}
Rebuild ooo-site.
Warning this is a sledgehammer change. All pages are changed.
Any other skeleton changes for accessibility?
The other change -- which probably needs more discussion -- is to
implement some form of skiplinks. The current problem is a user
needs to tab over the navigation links on every page they load before
they get to the actual page contents. Best practice is to have some
short cut to go directly to navigation, to content, to footer. The
tricky thing is to do this in a way that works well with the page
design as well.
This page implements it in a clever way:
http://accessites.org/site/2006/05/skip-link-pros-and-cons/
Nice way to present the user a shortcut to some common link groups.
Hit tab a couple times in your browser and you'll see the links show
up in the upper right. This is done with CSS tricks to position the
ul off screen except when it has the focus.
So they have this meta-navigation:
ul class=offset
lia href=#contentJump to Content/a/li
lia href=#navJump to Navigation/a/li
lia href=#footerJump to Footer/a/li
/ul
And from http://accessites.org/site/wp-content/themes/beastblog-v2/style.css:
ul.offset, .offset {
position : absolute;
top : -9000px;
left : -9000px;
z-index : 9;
}
ul.offset a:focus, ul.offset a:active {
position : absolute;
top : 9010px;
left : 9010px;
background-color : #33;
color : #fff;
padding : 5px;
font-weight : bold;
border : 2px solid #000;
width : 6em;
z-index : 9;
}
So navigation menu is 9000 pixels off the screen, except when it has
the focus, in which case it is brought in net 10 pixels.
But I wonder what happens if you try to print a page like that.
Hopefully the browsers are smart enough not to print many blank pages
followed by the off-screen menu...
My Firefox want to print 6 pages with only the expected content.
The complication with our website is that we have side menu navigation
on some (but not all pages). But we have top nav, and footer, on all
pages.
Regards,
-Rob
Marcus
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Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility
Am 01/16/2014 12:17 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/14/2014 06:53 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/13/2014 07:52 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: I've been scanning pages on our website to see what kinds of A11Y issues we should take care off. I'm concentrated initially on issues on our most popular pages as well as issues on the template, since the template generates the repeated headers/footers nad navigation on every page. We'll get more 'bang for the buck' if we can get the template perfect. Some of the kinds of issues I'm seeing: 1) The site-search button and input field in the upper right of the template. These were not coordinated in the best way. Since there is no associated label for the input field, I added a title attribute, so what we have now looks like this: div class=topsrchbox input name=resultsPerPage value=40 type=hidden/ input name=q id=query type=text title=search query/ input name=Button value=search type=submit class=topsrchbutton/ /div That means now the screen reader reads the title and converts it as voice output, right? Yes, that's my understanding. When we view the page this is clear from the visual context: a text input next to a button labeled search is for the search query. But the context is not always clear with a screen reader so we need to make it explicit. 2) The home page usesh2headers to mark the main options on the page, e.g., I want to download OpenOffice. But there is noh1. The doc I read said this inconsistency can confuse navigation via a screen reader. One option might be to make these all beh1and then adjust the CSS accordingly.Or maybe they should be anullist? I have no made any fix here yet. Simply insert a h1 headline, like: h1How can OpenOffice help you?/h1 However, if there is no need for one, then a hidden h1 could help to solve the confusion but also keep the current webpage conent and style. The hidden attribute seems to look like the best option but maybe not as it seems not to work in MS IE. Could someone test this? h1 hiddenHow can OpenOffice help you/h1 Theh1 would be the parent of all theh2's, including Recent blog posts. So not just the left column. A hiddenh1 might stop the warning message, but I'm to sure it really fixes the problem. But this might be the lesser of the problems. At least we're not inconsistent in our headers, e.g., having anh2 under anh3 or something like that. Or maybe just an empty h1 if this doesn't destroy the layout, like: h1/h1 A h1 tag would create a headline with CSS blue box styling - like you can see here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html Even with an empty h1 tag the blue box would be visible. So, if we decide to insert a h1 tag, then with text. You could turn off style with a tag in the h1. Sure, of course. I just hadn't the mood and time to dig into the code what it is. I've added a h1 tag with no text and disabled styles 3) For each of the choices we seem to have two hyperlinks going to the same place: div class=action-help div class=action-text action-link h2a href=/support/I need help with my OpenOffice/a/h2 pa href=/support/Help is at hand whenever you need it./a/p /div /div This repetition makes navigation via screen readers unnecessarily chatty. Is there some way we can eliminate the redundant links? I don't think so. Otherwise we would give up the link in the headline or the text. And the headline and text should have different text formatting, right? Could this help to get enough differentiation? h2a href=/support/I need help with my OpenOffice/a/h2 pa href=support/index.htmlHelp is at hand whenever you need it./a/p That might silence the warning message, but the problem is still there. The issue is someone navigating by keyboard will see every link twice in a row. So it is a matter of excess noise on the page. I wonder if it would be better to have the image and theh2 be the live links, and not link the smaller long description? Then we might be able to put the image and the text all in onea? This seems to help and also produces no HTML error (verified via W3C HTML validator): div class=action-info div class=action-text action-link a href=/why/h2I want to learn more about OpenOffice/h2 pWhat is Apache OpenOffice? And why should I use it?/p/a /div /div However, the text is now displayed in light-grey and doesn't change anymore when moving the mouse over it (compare with the other texts). So, some further CSS hacks are necessary. Up to now I haven't found the root cause. css needs to follow order so h2.a and p.a styles need to be copied into a.h2 and a.p styles - this may be tedious. That depends on the cascade. The order is important? Really? Didn't know
Little improvements from the first Web Satisfaction Survey (sent to @dev)
I've read through the results of the Web Satisfaction Survey that Rob has started (the first one went only to the subscribers of dev@, as kind of beta test, right?). From this I made some improvements: - www.openoffice.org: - Added the current version into the download link. - www.openoffice.org/download: - Added the release date into the green download box (link and title text). - Made some links bold to increase their visibility. - www.openoffice.org/download/other.html: - Changed Mac OS X into OS X. It seems Apple has renamed its product already ~2 years ago (see [1]). - Added a link in TOC to porting for, e.g., Solaris builds. BTW: One comment was to add links for Beta and RC versions to the download webpage. This will indeed happen when we release AOO 4.1.0 Beta. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/16/2802281/apple-officially-renames-mac-os-x-to-os-x-drops-the-mac Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
