Improving OpenOffice's User Experience
Hello OpenOffice Team, My name is Brennan. I am a user experience designer engineer, I am currently building the FOSS crypto-webmail project Mailpile... perhaps you have heard of it :) Here is a link explaining the current user experience flow which I experienced as a major pain point this morning trying to file my first OpenOffice bug report: https://brennannovak.com/notes/432 I believe my initial bug is quite valid and should be fixed. But, I also believe that it is equally valid to improve the user experience of reporting bugs themselves- the 10 step process I found myself in was a quagmire that I almost gave up on, but I resolved when I started working on Mailpile to be better member of the FOSS community and to strive to report UX bugs by giving other FOSS projects more patience, empathy, and effort to help them improve! I realize that making it easier to file bugs will probably increase your volume of bugs filed (certainly a mixed blessing), and that this will require more filtering diligence from your team to weed through them. I am completely unaware of what resources OO has and how feasible this, but it seems fortuitous to improve things a bit from the current state. I have numerous other improvement ideas I have encountered in the setup and updating flows of OpenOffice and would be willing to share them, so long as it is helpful to your team! Sincerely, Brennan Novak Mailpile - taking email back! https://mailpile.is - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
OK, this is looking interesting, but... ...please revert this change as the next real publish is likely to make this live and we probably don't want to do this yet without further review. So, please do the following -- * copy the revised version of brand.mdtext to the /test directory (we can then review this further) * revert your brand.mdtext change at the top level Thanks. On 05/14/2014 01:21 AM, Tal Daniel wrote: On Wed, May 14 I wrote: Following my suggestion, I've changed the brand.html template to show a lanaugage selection dropdown on all sites (currently available on staging sites only - http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/). To see a working example, select עברית (Hebrew) from the dropdown menu. NOTICE: Localized sites has 2 new vars in brand.mdtext: selectedlang: change to your language, which will be selected by default (e.g. ru) language: translation of the word Language Changes synched into content/xx/brand.mdtext, as an example. Can anyone help in moving the inline CSS style from brand.html into ooo.css, or other css file? (div id=languagesdiv style=float: right; padding: 1em; font-size: 0.9em;color:gray;) I can't do it since I didn't want to checkout the whole ooo-site. Next, we need to remove the Native Language link from the menu. -- - MzK Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] - additional text for the Update Notification of installed Mac OS X versions [was: Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release]
Hi Michal, On 06.05.2014 19:34, Michal Hriň wrote: V Utorok, 6. máj 2014 o 13:52 +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann napísal(a): Hi, On 06.05.2014 13:20, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Solo per Mac OS X 10.7 o superiore (the original still looks acceptable anyway) Thanks for the review and the feedback. I will update the text tomorrow - waiting for some more needed updates on other translations. If I understand, you would like translated messsage Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never (newer) .. right ? Yes. I used Google translate to create the initial translations and asked for review/correction. So: Slovak sk Iba pre Mac OS verzie 10.7 a novšie Czech cs Pouze pro Mac OS verze 10.7 a novější Thus, thank you very much for providing these translations. I will correct the Update XML feeds today. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [www] [SUGGEST] Change Native Language to Dropdown/select box
On 05/14/2014 12:20 AM, Tal Daniel wrote: I'm working on language select dropdown, and suggest it on the staging site. Marcus, I find it impossible to override the templates/brand.html in localized sites. Does anyone know how to do it? If not, I'll publish the dropdown on the english staging site. Tal -- You can create a localized brand.mdtext directly in a subdirectory for your purposes, and this will convert to brand.html for a given directory. I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do. see, e.g. the structure of http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/zh/ -- or -- http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/zh-cn/ On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/13/2014 05:56 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: On 13 May Tal Daniel wrote: I'd like to suggest to replace the Native Language link, on www.openoffice.org menu to a more visible dropbox. E.g. Product | Download | ... | Lanauge: [English ] I believe users are more accustomed to select their language from a select box, rather than clicking native language (I remember I had a hard time, as a beginner OpenOffice site visitor to understand what does this link mean). This would also allow faster move to a translated version of the site, for people who prefer to read it in their language. + Another suggestion is to move the suggested dropdown box above the menu bar, somewhere near the search box. +1 On Tue, May 13 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Andrea can probably correct me here but long ago we did in fact want to use the drop down menu. The issue, then, if not now, was that the tools available were thought not generally in use by visitors to the site. The usual rule of thumb for making things easier for users is to see what the more popular sites do (that seems to work, of course) and emulate it. Some examples, to show that a dropdown, or auto redirection ARE common practice nowadays: * Mozilla.com redirects by browser language to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/and has a dropdown box on the bottom of page (that's surprising), just in case [they were wrong]. * Microsoft.com redirects by IP (country) to http://www.microsoft.com/he-il/default.aspx and has a link Israel - Hebrew [Earth icon] on the bottom of the page, just in case [they were wrong]. * Adobe.com stays in English, but opens a popup with an offer to be redirected to a regional website. Oh Marcus, Marcus... where are you when I need your skills the most :) ahm, I'm not here. ;-) Honestly, I would like to get the download feature finished first, before I start another website change as my time for AOO is very limited. However, if you have some HTML/JS/CSS skills you could try yourself: http://www.openoffice.org/test/ Update its content with a current copy of the http://www.openoffice.org/ index.html page(s) and just start. If something gets broken, then only in the test/ area which nobody bothers. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: is it offical? OenOffice Online
Sound like RollApps But very sloow - Mail original - De: DENIS Sylvain sylvain.tech...@gmail.com À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 08:43:06 Objet: is it offical? OenOffice Online Hello, is it official ? http://www.toolinux.com/Open-Office-porte-dans-le-cloud http://crm-pour-pme.fr/spawnoo/spawnapps_openoffice.html sorry, it's in french -- Sylvain DENIS Conseiller Pédagogique TICE /Responsable de projets TICE dans le cadre d'École Numérique/ 0499 219 802 - sylv...@pedago-tic.be mailto:sylv...@pedago-tic.be | cont...@denis-sylvain.be mailto:cont...@denis-sylvain.be École numérique : http://www.ecolenumerique.be | Pedago-TIC : http://www.pedago-tic.be | mENTeOS : http://www.menteos.be - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 30/04/14 09:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place. I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the overall picture and potentially we have to change more ... But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify, improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release. We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible and many different people have many different opinions. I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Hi Samer, now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons where necessary and to do proper testing. Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do minor changes. I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in place. Hi Samer, I was on vacation and potentially you have already answered and it is still queued in the mail backlog who knows (great disaster) but can you give me an update where we are. Do you have plans and time to continue working on this? Kind regards Juergen Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: E-mail outage resolved
The backlog queue is still being emptied, there was 9 million mails in it, so that takes days before all mails are sent (e.g. google throttles our mail sending). good to know, that for this info. Yes, thank you. Meanwhile all/most messages are received. Mathias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: buildbot success in ASF Buildbot on openoffice-linux64-nightly
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 08:42:12AM +, build...@apache.org wrote: Hi! , The openoffice-linux64-nightly builder has just completed a run STATUS: Success Build revision 1587398 on branch openoffice/trunk Snapshot results at: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/ Build using the ASF buildslave: tethys_ubuntu Build results at: http://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux64-nightly/builds/950 Build reason was: The Nightly scheduler named 'openoffice-linux64-nightly' triggered this build Yours Sincerely - The ASF Buildbot (http://ci.apache.org/) -- Join the bui...@apache.org mailing list for help with Buildbot This last mail was from a month ago, aren't the build bots sending this notification any longer? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpPdh184XPys.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Reply in-line. circul...@gmx.com wrote: If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. The icon is already available, just use the customize option. I have sent you a pm illustrating the necessary selections. At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. In the default Format menu there is a Paragraph... option to open the paragraph style dialog. Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] - additional text for the Update Notification of installed Mac OS X versions [was: Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release]
Hi, On 07.05.2014 09:14, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi Michal, On 06.05.2014 19:34, Michal Hriň wrote: V Utorok, 6. máj 2014 o 13:52 +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann napísal(a): Hi, On 06.05.2014 13:20, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Solo per Mac OS X 10.7 o superiore (the original still looks acceptable anyway) Thanks for the review and the feedback. I will update the text tomorrow - waiting for some more needed updates on other translations. If I understand, you would like translated messsage Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never (newer) .. right ? Yes. I used Google translate to create the initial translations and asked for review/correction. So: Slovak sk Iba pre Mac OS verzie 10.7 a novšie Czech cs Pouze pro Mac OS verze 10.7 a novější Thus, thank you very much for providing these translations. I will correct the Update XML feeds today. Corrections to the translations of Only for Mac OS X versions 10.7 or newer for cz, it and sk are live now. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New Volunteer Note
Hello! My name is Tom, and I'm pleased to be a new volunteer QA analyst! I recently (April of 2014) received my certification in Software Quality Assurance and Testing, but am looking forward to honing my skills with hands-on work, My background has most recently been in paper Records management, but before that I worked in Customer Service, and before that I worked in a College library. Thank You for this opportunity, Tom E
