Re: Fwd: June 25th CFP Deadline for ApacheCon and CloudStack Collab Conference EU - Submit Now

2014-06-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 17/06/2014 jan i wrote:

Now we are getting close to deadline for ApacheCon Budapest.
Please submit talks


I fully second Jan's request, and I'm adding the QA list. The conference 
was mainly discussed on the dev list so far, so here's some basic 
information:
- Deadline is June 25 as stated in the subject; ApacheCon is November 
17-21 in Budapest

- ApacheCon site: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/
- Click on Submit talk to submit a talk; you will create an account in 
the process


Don't worry about having something compelling or new to say. Many of you 
can submit a talk, based on their experience in the OpenOffice 
community. If you are involved with the project, at any level, you 
surely had to learn something (using Pootle, using the CMS, using QA 
tools, learning how to give effective support): all these topics are OK 
for submission. See the conference as a community gathering, where you 
speak to other community members in a friendly, informal, environment.


Remember that giving a talk gives you free entrance to the event. And 
one more reason to submit talks is that we need to know how much 
OpenOffice-related content is available in order to see in what form 
OpenOffice is present at the conference (dedicated day, dedicated track...).


So, go submit a talk now! Submissions will be handled by volunteers 
familiar with OpenOffice (you can volunteer yourself if you wish; see 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201406.mbox/%3C53A055AB.9030509%40rcbowen.com%3E 
), so you can keep them brief and to the point.


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Re: Apachecon EU, and a possible AOO event.

2014-06-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/06/2014 jan i wrote:

We have been offered a possibility to have a AOO event just after ApacheCon
EU. ... I think its a great opertunity


Totally agree, and I would be very happy to see it.


Therefore my simple questions:
- Is this something the community at large wants to pursue ?
- Any volunteers to help ?


I'm prepared to help to make it happen, but I hope others will join. 
Jan, what tasks do you anticipate? We don't need an on the field 
presence in Budapest since we can rely on the ApacheCon organizers 
(producers) for it. So it's mainly a matter of remote coordination and 
content selection?


Keep in mind (see other thread) that collecting possible content is 
crucial: http://markmail.org/message/nvn4l2jna54ohoih one week left; 
there can't be an event without content, make sure you (everybody) 
submit ideas now.


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Re: Apachecon EU, and a possible AOO event.

2014-06-18 Thread jan i
On 18 June 2014 08:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 11/06/2014 jan i wrote:

 We have been offered a possibility to have a AOO event just after
 ApacheCon
 EU. ... I think its a great opertunity


 Totally agree, and I would be very happy to see it.


  Therefore my simple questions:
 - Is this something the community at large wants to pursue ?
 - Any volunteers to help ?


 I'm prepared to help to make it happen, but I hope others will join. Jan,
 what tasks do you anticipate? We don't need an on the field presence in
 Budapest since we can rely on the ApacheCon organizers (producers) for
 it. So it's mainly a matter of remote coordination and content selection?


it is wise also to have presence ourself, LF takes care of registration,
banners etc, but we can better e.g. guide people to the right talks.

Is is however no problem, since of course all speakers will be present, and
I will too.

I see the following (but I surely miss many tasks):
- content and more content :-)
- Layout for banners (AOO logo, name etc) to be sent to LF.
- produce a small folder (A4 folded) about AOO/ASF and how to donate/help
- maybe produce AOO stickers (I recommend it).
- find a keynote speaker to kick it off (or maybe 2, 1 user and 1 from the
project)
- organize the talks into a logical sequence
- press contact (sally will surely help here)
- most importantly, spread the word

most of the tasks are simple, but in total its too much for one person to
do.

I will be happy to coordinate and be anchor-man if wanted.

rgds
jan I.



 Keep in mind (see other thread) that collecting possible content is
 crucial: http://markmail.org/message/nvn4l2jna54ohoih one week left;
 there can't be an event without content, make sure you (everybody) submit
 ideas now.

 Regards,
   Andrea.


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4.1.1_release_blocker granted: [Issue 122368] nbintegration: Blanks or Colons in path seem unsupported under windows

2014-06-18 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has granted  4.1.1_release_blocker:
Issue 122368: nbintegration: Blanks or Colons in path seem unsupported under
windows
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122368


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
grant showstopper flag.

The fix will solve a problem with the idlc/ucpp compiler on Windows when the
office/SDK is installed in the default location where the path contains spaces.
It solves a problem that occurs when using the NetBeans plugin and make it
unusable. The fix is minimal and will affect the idlc only.

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why is it so hard to work with ms office files? enhancement

2014-06-18 Thread Jim Michaels
why is it so hard to work with ms office files? it should be easy.

expected: there ought to be a setting that changes the default file types for 
open, save, save as (file ops) so that the user is always easily working with 
his favorite file type (save, save as, and open). but changing the file type 
should always be available. this should be set at installation. during an 
upgrade from a version which did not have this feature (or every time) 
installer should query the user for the file types desired for those 3 file ops 
via a combo box, OR specify a radio button to work with MS Office 
2007/2010(.docx), MS Office 2003 XML, MS Office 97(.doc), Ooen Document 
Format(ODF), default being MS Office 2007/2010(.docx).


actual: opening a file you must specify a file type (should not be necessary, 
should be detectable by file extension - if application gets a file extension 
that targets multiple file types, query the user.

 
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j...@renewalcomputerservices.com
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http://JesusnJim.com (my personal site, has software)
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IEC Units: Computer RAM  SSD measurements, microsoft disk size measurements 
(note: they will say GB or MB or KB or TB when it is IEC Units!):
[KiB] [MiB] [GiB] [TiB]
[2^10B=1,024^1B=1KiB]
[2^20B=1,024^2B=1,048,576B=1MiB]
[2^30B=1,024^3B=1,073,741,824B=1GiB]
[2^40B=1,024^4B=1,099,511,627,776B=1TiB]
[2^50B=1,024^5B=1,125,899,906,842,624B=1PiB]
SI Units: Hard disk industry disk size measurements:

[kB] [MB] [GB] [TB]
[10^3B=1,000B=1kB]
[10^6B=1,000,000B=1MB]
[10^9B=1,000,000,000B=1GB]
[10^12B=1,000,000,000,000B=1TB]
[10^15B=1,000,000,000,000,000B=1PB]

Re: why is it so hard to work with ms office files? enhancement

2014-06-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 03:24:08 -0700
Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com.INVALID wrote:

 why is it so hard to work with ms office files? it should be easy.
 
 expected: there ought to be a setting that changes the default file types for 
 open, save, save as (file ops) so that the user is always easily working with 
 his favorite file type (save, save as, and open). but changing the file type 
 should always be available. this should be set at installation. during an 
 upgrade from a version which did not have this feature (or every time) 
 installer should query the user for the file types desired for those 3 file 
 ops via a combo box, OR specify a radio button to work with MS Office 
 2007/2010(.docx), MS Office 2003 XML, MS Office 97(.doc), Ooen Document 
 Format(ODF), default being MS Office 2007/2010(.docx).
 
 
 actual: opening a file you must specify a file type (should not be necessary, 
 should be detectable by file extension - if application gets a file extension 
 that targets multiple file types, query the user.
 
  
 -
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 jmich...@yahoo.com
 j...@renewalcomputerservices.com
 http://RenewalComputerServices.com
 http://JesusnJim.com (my personal site, has software)

A quick search gave me this article which tells how to set the default save 
types in OpenOffice.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/configure-change-or-set-openofficeorg-to-default-save-files-in-microsoft-office-formats/

However, it is not an MS Office clone: if your main requirement is to use MS 
file formats, you might be best to acquire MS Office.

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[EXTENSION][DEV]: updated OpenOffice NetBeans API plugin

2014-06-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

I have updated the OpenOffice NetBeans API plugin to make it working
with NetBeans 8 and AOO 4.1.

A reworked plugin for testing can be found under [1]. The used
preprocessor ucpp has problems with paths containing spaces (Windows
only). This issue is solved already on trunk and will be fixed in the
AOO 4.1.1 SDK as well. In the meantime a patched idlc for Windows (calls
the ucpp) can be found under [2]. Just copy this patched idlc in your SDK.

[1]
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo_plugin/org-openoffice-extensions-4.0.6.nbm
[2] http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo_plugin/idlc.exe

A further useful information is that the 'jar' target have changed a bit
and existing projects created with the old plugin need a minimal change
as well to work with NB 8.

in the build-uno-impl.xml build script the jar target (line 162) should
be changed to

target name=jar
depends=-uno-project-init,uno-idl-compile,-jar-idl-types,compile,-pre-jar,-do-jar-jar,-do-openoffice-manifest,-post-jar
   jar basedir=${build.classes.dir} compress=true filesonly=true
manifest=${build.dir}/MANIFEST.MF jarfile=${dist.jar}
excludes=**/*.xml,*/*.txt,${idl.file.list},${build.classes.excludes}/
/target

Feedback are welcome

Juergen

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Re: can't install 4.0.1

2014-06-18 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Hi Nathan,

How are you going on with your installation for AOO 4.0.1, is the problem
resolved? I notice that you are likely doing upgrade install from 3.x to
4.x, here is the related information about upgrade for Windows, in case you
need it.

*Upgrading OpenOffice for Windows*

If the current version is 3.x, you can remove it before you upgrade to
version 4.x, or keep it and install 4.x as an additional version.

1. In the Installation Wizard, do one of the following:

- To remove 3.x and install 4.x, select Remove all older product versions.
The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs
list will all refer to 4.x.
- To have both 3.x and 4.x on your computer, deselect Remove all older
product versions.  Each version will have its own startup group item,
desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs list.

2. If the current version is 4.x, but is older than the point version that
you want to install (for example, you have 4.0.0 but want to install
4.0.1), the older version will be removed and the later one will be
installed. The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the
Add/Remove Programs list will all refer to the later version.


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Nathan Price 
 nateprice...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

  I am on a windows 7. I downloaded openoffice(OO) 3.2. I then upgraded to
  3.3  and 3.4. Now I want to install 4.0.1, but I am reviving a message
 that
  OO is still running. I have exited and went in  to task manager and
 killed
  soffice it is not running anywhere.l I checked all users. I tried to
 do a
  repair install, but same thing. I singed up for the forum,but couldn't
 post
  a question. So here I am. Please Help me...
 
  C 717.557.5723
  email nateprice...@yahoo.com


 I'm not a Windows users but I suspect if you're  on 3.4, this might be due
 to the quickstarter enabled. Please see the following forum topics for help
 --


 https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=8161

 https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=65670



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[RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1

2014-06-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and
believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long
the QA work will take?

AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation
update and potentially new languages.

A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates
only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and
a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the
last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads
and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to
release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues
that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of
active Beta users.

Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag.
Most of them are already fixed.

I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist
already please request the showstopper flag asap.

We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of
translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline
for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We
need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run
always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that
don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind.

What does others think about it?

Juergen

PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We
have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev
which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for
upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split
discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the
past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be
communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well.

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4.1.1_release_blocker requested: [Issue 125112] CStringEqual can return true for non-equal c-strings

2014-06-18 Thread bugzilla
h...@apache.org h...@apache.org has asked  for 4.1.1_release_blocker:
Issue 125112: CStringEqual can return true for non-equal c-strings
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125112


--- Additional Comments from h...@apache.org h...@apache.org
Fixed with the commit above.

The fix is safe and should be considered for the next bugfix release too.

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4.1.1_release_blocker granted: [Issue 125112] CStringEqual can return true for non-equal c-strings

2014-06-18 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has granted h...@apache.org h...@apache.org's request for
4.1.1_release_blocker:
Issue 125112: CStringEqual can return true for non-equal c-strings
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125112


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
grant showstopper fix, it is considered as important preventive fix

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Re: [RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1

2014-06-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Issues for potential updates of dictionaries are required as well

Juergen

On 18/06/14 13:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and
 believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long
 the QA work will take?
 
 AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation
 update and potentially new languages.
 
 A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates
 only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and
 a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the
 last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads
 and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to
 release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues
 that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of
 active Beta users.
 
 Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag.
 Most of them are already fixed.
 
 I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist
 already please request the showstopper flag asap.
 
 We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of
 translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline
 for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We
 need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run
 always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that
 don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind.
 
 What does others think about it?
 
 Juergen
 
 PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We
 have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev
 which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for
 upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split
 discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the
 past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be
 communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well.
 


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Question?

2014-06-18 Thread Yvonne Altenderfer
I am a former MAC user and now have a PC.  My spreadsheets are all in 
ClarisWorks.  Is there any way I can transfer my ClarisWorks spreadsheets to 
the openoffice.apache application.


Thank you!  Yvonne   yaltender...@hotmail.com






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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-06-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Sam Rathmann sam.rathm...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 Thanks. Ten four on the reprint ranges. The colors on the cells aren't
 background colors or borders. It is a time stamp like feature with red or
 blue comment outline


OK, I am not familiar with this at all. So, I'm copying your reply and this
one back to the list. Maybe someone else can help.



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 On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
  On 06/17/2014 01:15 PM, Sam Rathmann wrote:
  Cannot figure out why I have blue or red boxes on the individual
  cells in the spreadsheet program. Please advise how to delete. Call
  573-301-1305 CST. Also please advise on print range capabilities.
  Thanks
 
  I don't know if you mean the 1) actual background of the cells or
  perhaps the 2) borders around the cells?
 
  If 1), select the cells and use Format - Background to change
  background color of the cells.
 
  If 2), select the cell(s) and use Format - Borders to change.
 
  re print ranges--
 
  There's a pretty good guide to Print Ranges in Calc in the Calc Guide -
 V3.3
 
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/2/28/0306CG33-PrintingExportingEmailing.pdf
 
  You might find additional help on this topic from either the Apache
  OpenOffice users list (see
 
 http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public)
 
  or the support forum -- https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
 
 
 
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pregunta

2014-06-18 Thread luis miguel gonzalez balda
Hola buena:
Quisiera hacerles una pregunta referente al programa de open office apache 4 
que tengo instalado, no puedo abrir un archivo que esta en rar y no lo puedo 
leer, que puedo hacer. muchas gracias   

Re: pregunta

2014-06-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi this list is english only please reffer to
http://openoffice.org/es/ for spanish based mailing lists. Otherwise
please re-send your emai in english.

Hola esta lista es unicamente en ingles, por favor ve a
http://openoffice.org/es/ para listas en español. De otra forma re
envia tu correo en ingles.

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 Hola buena:
 Quisiera hacerles una pregunta referente al programa de open office apache 4
 que tengo instalado, no puedo abrir un archivo que esta en rar y no lo puedo
 leer, que puedo hacer. muchas gracias 


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Re: pregunta

2014-06-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:52:42 +0200
luis miguel gonzalez balda koldog...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hola buena:
 Quisiera hacerles una pregunta referente al programa de open office apache 4 
 que tengo instalado, no puedo abrir un archivo que esta en rar y no lo puedo 
 leer, que puedo hacer. muchas gracias 

Translation says that the User cannot open (use?) an .avi file. 

I recently ran into this with a user on the Forum; the cure (workaround) was to 
convert the file to MPEG.

An alternate workaround is to insert a Hyperlink to the .av file and let the 
system media player open the file.


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Re: Question ad encoding of unoinfo java return string value

2014-06-18 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Added bugzilla issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125115, 
attached zip file with
three text files containing the result of unoinfo java on OOo 3.4, AOO 4.0.1, 
and AOO 4.0.

---rony


On 17.06.2014 21:10, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 According to some older infos about the encoding returned by unoinfo[.exe] 
 java the resulting
 string starts with an indicator byte, where '0' indicates an ASCII encoding 
 (and the paths are
 delimited with '\0'), whereas '1' indicates UTF-16LE (and the paths are 
 delimited with \0\0).

 On German Windows (AOO 4.1) I see the encoding '1' (UTF-16LE), but the 
 characters are not 16-bit
 (UTF-16LE) encoded, but plain ASCII, however the paths get delimited with 
 \0\0. OOo (e.g. 3.4.1)
 would return encoding '1' (UTF-16LE) where each ASCII character is preceded 
 by '\0'.

 Clearly, an installation routine dealing with the returned string value of 
 AOO gets confused, if it
 was written with UTF-16LE in mind, working correctly on earlier OOo.

 If the current encoding returned by AOO 4.1 on Windows is wrong, I would file 
 a bug. If it is
 correct, where is this particular encoding in AOO stated?

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Re: pregunta

2014-06-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi Rory is not an avi video file but a RAR (compression) file. I think
the OS is routing the ODT files as Zip and opening them with WinRAR.

On 6/18/14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:52:42 +0200
 luis miguel gonzalez balda koldog...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hola buena:
 Quisiera hacerles una pregunta referente al programa de open office apache
 4 que tengo instalado, no puedo abrir un archivo que esta en rar y no lo
 puedo leer, que puedo hacer. muchas gracias  

 Translation says that the User cannot open (use?) an .avi file.

 I recently ran into this with a user on the Forum; the cure (workaround) was
 to convert the file to MPEG.

 An alternate workaround is to insert a Hyperlink to the .av file and let the
 system media player open the file.


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Re: pregunta

2014-06-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:39:19 -0500
Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 Hi Rory is not an avi video file but a RAR (compression) file. I think
 the OS is routing the ODT files as Zip and opening them with WinRAR.
 
 On 6/18/14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
  On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:52:42 +0200
  luis miguel gonzalez balda koldog...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Hola buena:
  Quisiera hacerles una pregunta referente al programa de open office apache
  4 que tengo instalado, no puedo abrir un archivo que esta en rar y no lo
  puedo leer, que puedo hacer. muchas gracias
  
 
  Translation says that the User cannot open (use?) an .avi file.
 
  I recently ran into this with a user on the Forum; the cure (workaround) was
  to convert the file to MPEG.
 
  An alternate workaround is to insert a Hyperlink to the .av file and let the
  system media player open the file.
 
 
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Thanks! That just shows the problems with automatic translation; I don't know 
where the avi file came from, but it was definitely in  the translation I saw. 
Of course, it isn't now, when I recheck the translation.

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Re: RFC ad possible presentation submission for ApacheCon EU

2014-06-18 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Thanks to everyone giving feedback, have submitted a talk proposal:

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/3187/2831


Howto Turn Your Favorite Programming Language into an AOO Macro Language

Event ApacheCon Europe 2014
Submission Type Presentation
Category Developer


  Biography

Rony Flatscher is a member at the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) and 
works as a professor for
Information Systems at the WU Vienna. He is the author of BSF4ooRexx a 
cross-platform package
that bridges the programming language ooRexx and Java. It includes support 
for Apache OpenOffice
(AOO) turning ooRexx into a macro language for AOO.


  Abstract

Apache OpenOffice (AOO) defines a scripting framework that can be exploited 
to add any
programming language to Apache OpenOffice as a macro language. This 
presentation introduces the
necessary overview and knowhow to become able to assess the effort to add 
your own favorite
programming language to AOO. Although the AOO scripting framework is 
implemented in Java it is
possible to add non-Java-implemented programming languages as demonstrated 
with the programming
ooRexx which is itself implemented in C++. In addition all scripting 
languages that support
Java's javax.script framework could be added to AOO using AOO's scripting 
framework.


  Audience

The audience is interested in the Apache OpenOffice (AOO) scripting 
framework and/or adding
programming languages to Apache OpenOffice as macro languages.


  Experience Level

Any


  Benefits to the Ecosystem

AOO may be enhanced by many new programming languages that can be used and 
dispatched as macro
languages.
Status New



Regards,

---rony


On 17.06.2014 22:21, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 The abstract might read something like: Apache Open Office (AOO) defines a 
 scripting framework that
 can be exploited to add any programming language to Apache OpenOffice as a 
 macro language. This
 presentation introduces the necessary overview and knowhow to become able to 
 assess the effort to
 add your own favorite programming language to AOO.

 Sounds really interesting (please fix typo: Open Office - OpenOffice; it 
 helps with search). I
 would be personally interested in the subject too, and happy to discuss it in 
 personal mail if you
 have something ready at he end of July. Anyway, do submit it, sure!

 Regards,
   Andrea.



Re: RFC ad possible presentation submission for ApacheCon EU

2014-06-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Very interesting talk, I remember a while ago a friend wanted to port
Groovy to UNO, since it runs on the JVM it was very possible to have
an engine.

Althought nowadays I think a more relevant feature for AOO is to have
its IDE speak other languages than Basic (think Python, Javascript).
And maybe improve it with instrospection, snippets, bookmarks, and
code folding features.

On 6/18/14, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org wrote:
 Thanks to everyone giving feedback, have submitted a talk proposal:

 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/proposals/3187/2831


 Howto Turn Your Favorite Programming Language into an AOO Macro
 Language

 Event ApacheCon Europe 2014
 Submission Type Presentation
 Category Developer


   Biography

 Rony Flatscher is a member at the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) and
 works as a professor for
 Information Systems at the WU Vienna. He is the author of BSF4ooRexx a
 cross-platform package
 that bridges the programming language ooRexx and Java. It includes
 support for Apache OpenOffice
 (AOO) turning ooRexx into a macro language for AOO.


   Abstract

 Apache OpenOffice (AOO) defines a scripting framework that can be
 exploited to add any
 programming language to Apache OpenOffice as a macro language. This
 presentation introduces the
 necessary overview and knowhow to become able to assess the effort to
 add your own favorite
 programming language to AOO. Although the AOO scripting framework is
 implemented in Java it is
 possible to add non-Java-implemented programming languages as
 demonstrated with the programming
 ooRexx which is itself implemented in C++. In addition all scripting
 languages that support
 Java's javax.script framework could be added to AOO using AOO's
 scripting framework.


   Audience

 The audience is interested in the Apache OpenOffice (AOO) scripting
 framework and/or adding
 programming languages to Apache OpenOffice as macro languages.


   Experience Level

 Any


   Benefits to the Ecosystem

 AOO may be enhanced by many new programming languages that can be used
 and dispatched as macro
 languages.
 Status New



 Regards,

 ---rony


 On 17.06.2014 22:21, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 The abstract might read something like: Apache Open Office (AOO) defines
 a scripting framework that
 can be exploited to add any programming language to Apache OpenOffice as
 a macro language. This
 presentation introduces the necessary overview and knowhow to become able
 to assess the effort to
 add your own favorite programming language to AOO.

 Sounds really interesting (please fix typo: Open Office - OpenOffice; it
 helps with search). I
 would be personally interested in the subject too, and happy to discuss it
 in personal mail if you
 have something ready at he end of July. Anyway, do submit it, sure!

 Regards,
   Andrea.




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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-06-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 06/18/2014 05:28 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Sam Rathmannsam.rathm...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Thanks. Ten four on the reprint ranges. The colors on the cells aren't
background colors or borders. It is a time stamp like feature with red or
blue comment outline



OK, I am not familiar with this at all. So, I'm copying your reply and this
one back to the list. Maybe someone else can help.


for me it sounds like a more special problem than first thought. So, the 
best would be to describe your problem in a forum with much more people 
and therefore better chances to get a solution.


I suggest you post the problem in our support forums [1] that is visited 
by users from all over the world.


Or you can write a mail to us...@openoffice.apache.org. Like 
dev@openoffice.apache.org this is also a mailing list, so make sure 
you have read this first [2].


[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
[2] http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#using-mailing-lists

HTH

Marcus




On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:




On 06/17/2014 01:15 PM, Sam Rathmann wrote:

Cannot figure out why I have blue or red boxes on the individual
cells in the spreadsheet program. Please advise how to delete. Call
573-301-1305 CST. Also please advise on print range capabilities.
Thanks


I don't know if you mean the 1) actual background of the cells or
perhaps the 2) borders around the cells?

If 1), select the cells and use Format -  Background to change
background color of the cells.

If 2), select the cell(s) and use Format -  Borders to change.

re print ranges--

There's a pretty good guide to Print Ranges in Calc in the Calc Guide -

V3.3



https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/2/28/0306CG33-PrintingExportingEmailing.pdf


You might find additional help on this topic from either the Apache
OpenOffice users list (see


http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public)


or the support forum -- https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/


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Re: [RELEASE PLANNING] New release planning template in the Wiki

2014-06-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 06/07/2014 02:32 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 06/07/2014 02:03 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 06/06/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template


As promised some time ago I've now created a schedule plan for a new
release.


This will surely be helpful. I made some changes, but I'm confused about
the three translation phases. For sure this part is not reflecting
reality, we don't have three translation phases. The process is as
follows:
- We set a deadline for new translations to reach 100%
- We set a deadline for existing translations to be fixed in Pootle
- We set a deadline for updating/integrating dictionaries
- We currently don't set deadlines for the Release notes, but we could

The three deadlines can well be the same. And any action requiring code
change must be requested in Bugzilla (so: if fixes are made in the
French translation, volunteers will open an issue to integrate the
fixes; same for any other actions).

A translation never starts: it is always open, and volunteers can ask
for import from Pootle when necessary.

I don't know how to put this process in the current version of the plan.
What did you have in mind with the three translation phases? A full
import at the end of each phase? We are not doing that and we won't so
long as we use the current technology.


The 3 phases came from the reality in the past - at I remeber this way.
We made some last minutes changes into the build, even when it was after
the deadline.

So, IMHO we should count with this. That was the reason for the 3
different entries.

Of course this can be changed. It was just a first try to create a plan.


I've changed this and now there is only 1 translation phase directly 
after feature + string freeze.


I've also added a sentence that translation phase means strings *and* 
dictionaries.


Does it look better now?

Marcus

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Re: need wiki help

2014-06-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 05/01/2014 06:45 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The Alias is a plugin that is not installed in the company's
Confluence instance where I work.


OK, so let's see what Infra says:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7658


I've checked with a work colleague of mine and he agreed that this is 
the macro to go. There seems to be no other way in Confluence that is 
built-in. Too sad there is currently a problem with the license.


Marcus


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Re: Portuguese download broken

2014-06-18 Thread Kay Schenk


On 06/11/2014 10:51 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 06/11/2014 01:23 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 It's easier than thought as only the following has to be done:
 - Add the following 4 files back to the main download area:
 - download.js
 - globalvars.js
 - exceptions.css
 - release_matrix.js
 - Rename the new files with adding something (e.g., download2.js) to
 separate from the old files.

 This will cause some caching issues (for those who have already used the
 new download page) but indeed it seems not so bad.
 
 caching issues shouldn't be a problem. Just reload the browser window.
 Furthermore, the website will browsed again and again in case of new
 download wishes.
 
 - Change the file references in the head part of the index.html in
 the main download webpage, so that the new files will be used.

 OK, unless you wish to rename the old ones (to download_old.js and such)
 if this is still easy, since we may want to actually get rid of the old
 mechanism in favor of the new one.
 
 It is more effort the other way around as I would need to change every
 localized download webpage. Of course this is also a possible way. We
 just need to agree what we want.
 
 - Delete the added Click this temporary link to download
 text box in every localized index.html file.

 For my commits, this means reverting
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1601211
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1601213
 Of course, feel free to revert both when replacing them with a better
 solution.

 Now the golden question: :-)
 Do we want to go on with the temporary way?
 Or change back to the old One-Click-Download behavior?

 Could we go back to the old behavior (whatever the file names) but then
 try and encapsulate all logic differently?
 
 OK but ...
 
 The most difficult part is that one just wants to localize the page, but
 still there's a lot of JavaScript around. From a maintenance point of
 
 ... this is a totally different topic. ;-)
 
 view, I would prefer to have a createDownloadDiv(var strings) function
 that takes an array of all strings needed to build the localized div and
 returns the div markup. This would simplify a translator's work, since
 they would only have to translate a long but understandable function
 call. If this is unclear I can make an example. And this would also
 guarantee that we can adjust it more easily.


After spending a while looking at approach more in depth, I agree with
Andrea here in terms of trying to set this up as simpler js calls
somehow. Conceptually, what's there now (in
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/) provides the utmost in
flexibility, but it comes at the cost of complexity. And, since we have
roughly 35 native language download areas that need attention, I think
we need to look to simplicity to expedite the situation.

I think the tips strings could match the actual parameter strings,
thus eliminating some redundancy there. I'm not sure we need tips for
the selection box items of OS etc, so maybe more eliminations here.

The same approach as suggested by Andrea could be used for the blue boxes.

And, I think the right side of the page -- the additional items should
be just be left intact as a block and let volunteers translate/change
this as they see fit rather than construct it with javascript.

Thoughts?


 
 Yes, I thought about this already a few months ago. A first result was
 this:
 
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/l10n/index_en.html
 
 I've done now an example with the new select boxes. You can look into
 the HTML code of the main or German download webpage. You will find a
 file msg_prop_l10n_en.js resp. msg_prop_l10n_de.js with all strings
 that could be localized. These are assigned in the JS code parts of the
 HTML file.
 
 That means there shouldn't be a need to dive into the HTML+JS code
 sections to find the things to translate. OK, except for the noscript
 parts as I don't know a better way for the moment. So, if someone knows
 a way please tell me.
 
 Furthermore, I don't like the idea of a static webpage of this size. It
 will become bigger with every new released language. I've done the
 current improvements to avoid this piece of effort. ;-)

 If we really want to have a webpage to serve all needs of people who
 disable technologies, we could build other.html with a script that scans
 the files tree and simply outputs a minimal table. But I don't know if
 this is worth the effort.
 
 The users that wanted to have a different install file than offered by
 the previous One-Click-Download was surely higher than now with the new
 select-what-you-want way. Only these users were the target audience
 for the other.html webpage. To build up a relatively easy way to get
 what they want. But the noscript users were not the audience.
 
 The number of users are not very high. It's simply no fun to browse
 nowadays through the Internet with disabled JavaScript. Maybe it's even
 less funny 

Re: [RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1

2014-06-18 Thread Kay Schenk


On 06/18/2014 05:10 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Issues for potential updates of dictionaries are required as well
 
 Juergen
 
 On 18/06/14 13:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,

 I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and
 believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long
 the QA work will take?

 AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation
 update and potentially new languages.

 A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates
 only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and
 a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the
 last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads
 and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to
 release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues
 that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of
 active Beta users.

 Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag.
 Most of them are already fixed.

 I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist
 already please request the showstopper flag asap.

 We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of
 translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline
 for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We
 need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run
 always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that
 don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind.

 What does others think about it?

Currently, this sounds like a reasonable plan. In my opinion, we don't
need a beta for a maintenance release.


 Juergen

 PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We
 have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev
 which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for
 upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split
 discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the
 past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be
 communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well.

 
 
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Re: [RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1

2014-06-18 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Hi, Juergen,


2014-06-18 19:18 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and
 believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long
 the QA work will take?


I think August is a reasonable target date.
I checked the testlink and found Yu Zhen already created AOO 4.1.1 test
plan with test cases added.

One question: when will we (or did we already?) create a 4.1.1 branch? I'm
asking because not only we need to input a build in testlink before we can
assign test cases to QA volunteers to start the test execution, but also it
can not be formally counted as 4.1.1 testing if performed on trunk build.

Thanks!




 AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation
 update and potentially new languages.

 A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates
 only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and
 a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the
 last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads
 and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to
 release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues
 that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of
 active Beta users.


I agree that Beta is not necessary for AOO 4.1.1.



 Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag.
 Most of them are already fixed.


From QA perspective, the 4.1.1 testing can early start as soon as the 1st
4.1.1 build available. But we need to define a DCUT milestone, by which
date, all the fixes are delivered to AOO 4.1.1 branch and no more patch
will be accepted unless identified as blocking or 4.1.1 regression. Then we
can run the regression test after the DCUT to cover all impacted areas.


- Shenfeng (Simon)





 I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist
 already please request the showstopper flag asap.

 We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of
 translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline
 for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We
 need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run
 always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that
 don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind.

 What does others think about it?

 Juergen

 PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We
 have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev
 which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for
 upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split
 discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the
 past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be
 communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well.

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Re: Vorschläge zur zukünftigen Handhabung der dev-de-Liste - Verständnisfrage

2014-06-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hallo Günter, 

 From: Guenter Marxen [mailto:guenter.mar...@gmail.com] 

 ich schätze Dich und Deine Arbeit für OpenOffice, hab' ich 
 doch selbst 
 früher davon profitiert. Aber die Rigorosität, mit der Du vorgehst, 
 finde ich bedenklich und ans Diktatorische grenzend.

Das ist leider nicht wahr, denn ich bin es der sich konsequent nach der Meinung
der Mehrheit der Community richten will, hingegen ist es Michael der versucht 
hier
Druck zu erzeugen indem er einseitig ankündigt sich an diese Mehrheitsmeinung 
nur
halten zu wollen wenn es ihm gefällt.

Zitat:
Ich behalte mir allerdings vor, abhängig vom Inhalt der Entscheidung,
das Apache OpenOffice-Projekt um meine Entpflichtung als Moderator zu
bitten.

Was soll denn sonst getan werden als einmal ernsthaft über die Dinge zu reden,
wenn die Erfahrung von 2 Jahren zeigt das der Versuchs durch maßvolle Kritik zu
einer Besserung zu kommen nichts gebracht hat?

 Auf Deine andere Mail (Lieber Günter, jetzt mal Klarstext:) 
 gehe ich 
 nicht mehr weiter ein, ggf. können wir das per PM 
 diskutieren. Ich kann 
 Dich auch mal anrufen, vielleicht kann das die Problematik besser 
 klären. 

Ich habe gegen Beides nichts, aber es gibt ja eigentlich nichts zu besprechen,
auch nehme ich Dir weder Deine Kritik noch Deine Meinung übel.

 Nur eine Anmerkung dazu: In diesem Kontext von 
 ...'moralisch' 
 unvereinbar ... zu schreiben, finde ich recht merkwürdig.

Der Grund ist einfach, wir sind hier auf freiwilliges Einhalten von gemeinsamen
Absprachen  angewiesen, weil wir keine Sanktionsmöglichkeiten haben, und ich 
finde
es höchst unfair wenn Einzelne damit die Community unter Druck zu setzen
versuchen, weil sie wissen das sie niemand sanktionieren kann.


Gruß
Jörg



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Re: Vorschläge zur zukünftigen Handhabung der dev-de-Liste - Verständnisfrage

2014-06-18 Thread RA Stehmann
On 18.06.2014 15:27, Dave wrote:
 Die Demokratie, die Dir vorschwebt ist offenbar eine Diktatur der
 Mehrheit, möglicherweise geführt von einem Populisten.
 
 Also, ich finde Michaels Wortwahl einfach unerträglich, schlimmer noch,
 diffamatorisch.
 Ich möchte ihn auffordern, ein paar Wochen lang gar nichts mehr zu posten
 hier.
 

 1. Ich lasse mir von Dir nicht den Mund verbieten!

 Demokratie hat in der Tat was mit Mehrheitsentscheidung zu tun. Und auch in
 einem
 Freiwilligenprojekt muss man sich entweder unterordnen oder aussteigen (und
 sich
 ein anderes Projekt aussuchen, das zu einem besser passt).

2. Wenn das Deine Auffassung ist (Unterordnen oder Aussteigen), dann
hast auch Du keine Ahnung, wie ein Freiwilligenprojekt funktioniert und
wie es zum Erfolg geführt werden kann.

Außerdem verkennst Du, dass Demokratie nicht nur etwas mit
Mehrheitsentscheidungen zu tun hat, sondern auch mit Freiheit.

Wer Unterordnung braucht, kann sich gerne unterordnen. Ich ziehe es vor,
mich meines Verstandes zu bedienen und auch die Verantwortung für mein
Handeln zu übernehmen, statt mich hinter einer Mehrheitsentscheidung zu
verstecken. Und ich gestehe dieses Recht auch jedem anderen zu, mit dem
ich auf freiwilliger Basis zusammenarbeite.

Gruß
Michael

P.S: gab es da nicht einmal eine Mehrheitsentscheidung wegen Tofu?




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