Re: [RELEASE]: propose RC2 on revision 1616946
On 13/08/14 18:03, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 08/13/2014 12:21 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> On 13/08/14 08:55, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 12.08.2014 21:45, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/11/2014 01:53 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to propose RC2 based on revision 1616946 from the AOO410 > branch. The build is ongoing and I expect to have the builds available > tomorrow or on Wednesday. > > Further details later ... > > Juergen My current RC1 build has this information -- AOO411m4(Build:9774) - Rev. 1614049 2014-07-28 17:54 - Linux i686 Proposed RC2 has build number of 9757 so it will not update RC1. Is the build number for RC2 correct? >>> >>> The build number is not correct. It should be 9775. >>> Murphy caused a typo in the corresponding change to >>> main/solenv/inc/minor.mk on branch AOO410. >>> >>> I propose to correct the build number - I will do the commit - and to >>> rebuild RC2 >> >> I have corrected my mistake and will do a RC3 to avoid confusion. RC2 is >> already uploaded and I have to tweak the wiki anyway (grrr) >> >> >> Juergen > > Thanks Juergen and Oliversorry I didn't notice this sooner in the > commits log. no problem, that's life. My mistake and I had the work to do ;-) But the upload is nearly finished ... I have now to fight with the wiki ones again. The next time I would use mediawiki. Juergen > >> >>> >>> Best regards, Oliver. >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[RELEASE]: RC3 based on revision 1617669
Hi, I have prepare a further RC3 build based on revision 1617669 of the AOO410 branch. I made a mistake and switched 2 digits in the build number that causes installation problems for updates of existing installations. It's the only change and the RC3 is now available. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds Fixes http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html The vote is planned to start tomorrow. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
hi. Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded latelysounds good you think lots of activity SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of reasons: - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several times - you waste our bandwith If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, one solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias (absolutely not one I prefer). How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? rgds jan I
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
On 14.08.2014 14:02, jan i wrote: hi. Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded latelysounds good you think lots of activity SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. Can you give an example? It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of reasons: - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several times - you waste our bandwith If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, one solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias (absolutely not one I prefer). How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? rgds jan I - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
On 14/08/14 14:02, jan i wrote: > hi. > > Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded > latelysounds good you think lots of activity > > SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but > something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. > > It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of > reasons: > - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML > - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several > times > - you waste our bandwith > > If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, one > solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias > (absolutely not one I prefer). > > How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? We don't do that normally but for example my mails regarding the availability of the RC builds are important for at least 3 lists. And I know that not all people are subscribed or reading dev. But I know that people read (are subscribed) to QA and l10n. So how can I reach all interested parties? For me it's simple I send an email to all lists. The people who are subscribed to all lists potentially found this annoying but for me it is more important to reach all. If you have a good idea how to solve this, I am interested to learn. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
On 14 August 2014 15:15, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 14/08/14 14:02, jan i wrote: > > hi. > > > > Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded > > latelysounds good you think lots of activity > > > > SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but > > something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. > > > > It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of > > reasons: > > - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML > > - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several > > times > > - you waste our bandwith > > > > If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, > one > > solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias > > (absolutely not one I prefer). > > > > How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? > Andre ask for examples (just look in your mailbox), here are a few: [RELEASE]: RC3 based on revision 1617669 [QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20140811[Blog Post] Join the OpenOffice localizationActually just look at the MLs, its hard to avoid a mail where the sender contains several ML. > We don't do that normally but for example my mails regarding the > availability of the RC builds are important for at least 3 lists. And I > know that not all people are subscribed or reading dev. But I know that > people read (are subscribed) to QA and l10n. So how can I reach all > interested parties? For me it's simple I send an email to all lists. The > people who are subscribed to all lists potentially found this annoying > but for me it is more important to reach all. > > If you have a good idea how to solve this, I am interested to learn. > It is very easy, 3 ways: 1) send the original mail to 1 list, and links on the other list. This is the suggested way. 2) Send the mail to multiple lists, but use BCC, that way the replies will not be copied to all lists 3) Send a mail to every list, instead of 1 mail which reference all lists. Remember your mail get replies and that multiplies the traffic. rgds jan I. > > > Juergen > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 14/08/14 14:02, jan i wrote: >> hi. >> >> Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded >> latelysounds good you think lots of activity >> >> SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but >> something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. >> >> It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of >> reasons: >> - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML >> - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several >> times >> - you waste our bandwith >> >> If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, one >> solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias >> (absolutely not one I prefer). >> >> How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? > > We don't do that normally but for example my mails regarding the > availability of the RC builds are important for at least 3 lists. And I > know that not all people are subscribed or reading dev. But I know that > people read (are subscribed) to QA and l10n. So how can I reach all > interested parties? For me it's simple I send an email to all lists. The > people who are subscribed to all lists potentially found this annoying > but for me it is more important to reach all. > > If you have a good idea how to solve this, I am interested to learn. > Sometimes I will send to one list and cc the others (bcc will look spammy to some tools), and then put in the first line of the body: "Responses to Foo list only". Regards, -Rob > > Juergen > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
On 14/08/14 15:59, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> On 14/08/14 14:02, jan i wrote: >>> hi. >>> >>> Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded >>> latelysounds good you think lots of activity >>> >>> SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but >>> something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML. >>> >>> It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of >>> reasons: >>> - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML >>> - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several >>> times >>> - you waste our bandwith >>> >>> If most mails are copied to most MLthen why do we have so many ML, one >>> solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias >>> (absolutely not one I prefer). >>> >>> How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ? >> >> We don't do that normally but for example my mails regarding the >> availability of the RC builds are important for at least 3 lists. And I >> know that not all people are subscribed or reading dev. But I know that >> people read (are subscribed) to QA and l10n. So how can I reach all >> interested parties? For me it's simple I send an email to all lists. The >> people who are subscribed to all lists potentially found this annoying >> but for me it is more important to reach all. >> >> If you have a good idea how to solve this, I am interested to learn. >> > > Sometimes I will send to one list and cc the others (bcc will look > spammy to some tools), and then put in the first line of the body: > "Responses to Foo list only". I did this as well several times but even this got ignored and discussion were on more than one list. So I gave up this approach. Juergen > > Regards, > > -Rob > > >> >> Juergen >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
L1C1 format in calc
hi! i am still waiting for L1C1 format like in Excel. This has been promised a long time ago but nothing happens!! friendly --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: L1C1 format in calc
Thanks to report your comment in the dedicated issue: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20857 You can register there and add your vote (up to two) - Mail original - De: "Jean Hamburger" À: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Envoyé: Jeudi 14 Août 2014 15:03:50 Objet: L1C1 format in calc hi! i am still waiting for L1C1 format like in Excel. This has been promised a long time ago but nothing happens!! friendly --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
I'm stepping into the middle of this thread merely to recommend that Apache projects consider using "Discourse" rather than email lists directly. http://www.discourse.org/ I had the opportunity to use Discourse at another foundation and I love the way it gathers conversations into useful threads without burying my inbox with stuff. /Larry -Original Message- From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:12 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Patches for enhancing traditional Chinese(ZH-TW) numbering conversion in ww8,rtf,ooxml filters
Recently I looked into issues where Chinese numbering in doc / docx /rtf were missed when opening the file in OpenOffice. Fortunately, I found the way to fix them. ( as attached ) I tried to key in an issue and submit my patch. ( https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125400) I don't know how long it will get processed and the correct process to submit the fix.However I'm glad if it can be merged as soon as possible. It will be a great help if the AOO can process document with numbering generated by traditional Chinese version of MSO correctly, especially for people from Taiwan. Please help. I'll do my best if any further information is necessary. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
PhD dissertation survey on requirements engineering practices in open source software development
Hi Sir, My name is jaison kuriakose and i am a PhD student in information systems in memorial university, Canada. As part of my PhD dissertation, i am conducting a survey study on requirements engineering practices in open source software development. Below are the details about the study. If possible, please forward the survey link to other members and if possible, please post it in open discussion forums. Thank you. Invitation message for participation in the survey Dear sir/madam, You are invited to participate in a survey titled "requirements engineering practices used in the development of open source software projects". This survey is part of a PhD dissertation study on requirements gathering in open source software development. This survey contains questions about which requirements engineering practices are being used during open source software development, how useful requirements engineering practices are for open source software development and the problems and issues that may arise while carrying out requirements gathering activities during open source software development. The survey would take around twenty minutes to complete. The questions are not mandatory. If you are interested in participating in this survey, please fill out the survey by clicking on the link below: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1582452/ba155dc1677a Researcher information: My name is Jaison Kuriakose and I am a PhD candidate at memorial university, Canada. My contact email is jk5...@mun.ca The proposal for this research has been reviewed by the Interdisciplinary Committee on Ethics in Human Research and found to be in compliance with Memorial University's ethics policy. If you have ethical concerns about the research, such as the way you have been treated or your rights as a participant, you may contact the Chairperson of the ICEHR at ic...@mun.ca or by telephone at 709-864-2861. Thank you Jaison Kuriakose PhD candidate in Information systems Memorial University, Canada
Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
jan i wrote: 1) send the original mail to 1 list, and links on the other list. This is the suggested way. It is the safest, but it is quite inconvenient. One must wait that the first e-mail shows up in the archives, Apache archives are bad since they do not support threaded view... 2) Send the mail to multiple lists, but use BCC, that way the replies will not be copied to all lists Spam concerns aside (linked to BCC), this may work. In the end the issue is not with the first announcement (we do have some messages that need to be posted to several lists), but with the follow-up. Of course, since our lists rewrite Reply-to, one must specify what the follow-up list is. So: one mailing list in TO, the other ones in BCC, a first line of the mail saying "Replies to dev@openoffice.apache.org ; the other lists are being included for notification only". 3) Send a mail to every list, instead of 1 mail which reference all lists. This easily leads to crazy thread duplication and should be avoided. Remember your mail get replies and that multiplies the traffic. If it happens that I have to send a mail to multiple lists, I'll do #2 and I'll trust that people reading the message know what they are doing. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation
Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license is ASLv2): https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats I started working on this around two years ago as part of UX Write, and it's been included in the version shipping on the iOS app store since February 2013. I've recently finished removing all dependencies on iOS/OS X APIs, and converting all the code from Objective C to plain C99. It now also builds on Linux, with Windows not being too far away. The design is based on bidirectional transformation, as a way of achieving non-destructive editing of foreign file formats. This permits incremental implementation of a given spec without risking data loss due to incomplete features, since unsupported features of a given file format are left untouched on save. UX Write uses HTML as both its native file format and in-memory data model (via WebKit), but relies on DocFormats to read & write .docx files, as well as export to LaTeX. The next major task I plan to work on (hopefully with help from others!) is .odt support. Now that this is open source, the eventual goal is for it to be generally usable by any app which has a need to support multiple file formats, such as OOXML and ODF. Currently it is limited to word processing formats only, but I'm interested in expanding it to cover spreadsheets, presentations, and drawings. Aside from editors, it also could be used for batch conversion tools, document analysis, web publishing, and other purposes. There are minimal dependencies (basically only libxml and zlib), to make it easy to integrate into different apps. I'm not a fan of huge monolithic architectures, and have kept it very independent of other other aspects of UX Write for this very purpose. Note that this means there is no editing or rendering code; it deals solely with conversion. UX Write uses WebKit for the rendering, but there are many other ways in which one could build on top of this. I'll be presenting on this at ApacheCon EU this November - see the talk "Addressing File Format Compatibility in Word Processors" at http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org. Comments/questions are welcome. -- Dr. Peter M. Kelly Founder, UX Productivity pe...@uxproductivity.com http://www.uxproductivity.com/ http://www.kellypmk.net/ PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966) signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail