Reproducible builds

2015-12-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello;

Just thought I¡d share this link I came up with:

https://reproducible-builds.org

The subject is somewhat controversial; making a reproducible build involves
effort and is unlikely to add value to the end product. Still there are 
interesting
issues though.

The main question is: do the checksums we generate actually have a meaning?
Can people downloading the source code actually rebuild the application and
obtain the same checksum we are asking them to trust? Proponents of
reproducible builds mention the case of tainted toolchains, like the trojanized
SDK that recently hit a mobile AppStore.

The website is full of interesting tools but one reference that caught my eye
was Google’s Bazel: http://bazel.io

Bazel is a new build system that offers both speed and reproducibility: it
supports Java, C++, ObjC, and is under an Apache License.
Big stopper: no Windows support (yet).

Just something to thin about. I see many issues in our current buildbots
that are difficult to address but spending time in the build system is
something the we generally (but wrongly) assume is not worthy of spending
developer time on it.

Cheers,

Pedro.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

2015-12-04 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi Pedro,

I still need to document the steps I took and hopefully someone 
knowledgeable with the build process

could add in the extra steps during the Jar process.

Thanks,
Carl

On 12/04/2015 10:27 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hello Carl;

Great job so far!

I agree they should be voted as a bundle. In the future we should just build 
this
stuff along with the release and it would be automatic part of the release
engineering process.

In that order of ideas, the .pom files should be uploaded to SVN even if they 
are
disconnected from the build at this time.

Regards,

Pedro.
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[DEVTOOLS] NetBeans plugin update for NB 8.1

2015-12-04 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi All,

The NetBeans integration plugin has been updated and verified by the 
NetBeans team for NB 8.1.


It is available for download from NetBeans.org here [1] or through the 
NetBeans Update Center.


For reference this is plugin version 4.1.4 for NB 8.1.
The last version for NB 8.0 is plugin version 4.1.3.

This update was required for NB api module changes.

[1] http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/57917/apache-openoffice-api-plugin

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: Spam hitting the list servers

2015-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
If I and/or the other moderators were to allow a fraction of the crap
through to to the list you would not have to ask that question.

Yes, thank you. All committers and moderators are familiar with the link
you provided.

Dave

 Original Message  
From: Geoffrey Corey
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:57:35 -0800

> Are the emails actually getting through to the list? Or is this just
> moderation emails?
> 
> Also, have you seen this?: https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#spam
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
>> Am 12/04/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Dave:
>>
>>> The level of spam arriving on our list servers has been steadily
>>> increasing. A couple of years ago moderators might have to filter a
>>> dozen or so attempted spam posts per day sent to the dev, marketing,
>>> doc, api&  users lists. Now this can sometimes be the hourly count.
>>> Today, the dev list server is being hit with a flood attack from a
>>> Google+ account running into hundreds per hour.
>>>
>>> Is there any specific Infra contact who can deal with this, or should I
>>> simply submit a general Infra ticket?
>>>
>>
>> thanks for bringing this to our attention.
>>
>> I've set Infra into CC, so that e don't loose time and the first can give
>> you an answer what to do as quick help.
>>
>> Marcus




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Re: Spam hitting the list servers

2015-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Marcus
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:49:29 +0100

> Am 12/04/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Dave:
>> The level of spam arriving on our list servers has been steadily
>> increasing. A couple of years ago moderators might have to filter a
>> dozen or so attempted spam posts per day sent to the dev, marketing,
>> doc, api&  users lists. Now this can sometimes be the hourly count.
>> Today, the dev list server is being hit with a flood attack from a
>> Google+ account running into hundreds per hour.
>>
>> Is there any specific Infra contact who can deal with this, or should I
>> simply submit a general Infra ticket?
> 
> thanks for bringing this to our attention.
> 
> I've set Infra into CC, so that e don't loose time and the first can
> give you an answer what to do as quick help.
> 
> Marcus

Thanks Marcus. I have been in touch with Google asking them to
investigate. It may just be coincidence, but the flood attack appears to
have stopped, for now.

I would still like to find out from Infra if anything can be done to
improve our spam filtering.

Dave



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Re: Spam hitting the list servers

2015-12-04 Thread Geoffrey Corey
Are the emails actually getting through to the list? Or is this just
moderation emails?

Also, have you seen this?: https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#spam

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Marcus  wrote:

> Am 12/04/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Dave:
>
>> The level of spam arriving on our list servers has been steadily
>> increasing. A couple of years ago moderators might have to filter a
>> dozen or so attempted spam posts per day sent to the dev, marketing,
>> doc, api&  users lists. Now this can sometimes be the hourly count.
>> Today, the dev list server is being hit with a flood attack from a
>> Google+ account running into hundreds per hour.
>>
>> Is there any specific Infra contact who can deal with this, or should I
>> simply submit a general Infra ticket?
>>
>
> thanks for bringing this to our attention.
>
> I've set Infra into CC, so that e don't loose time and the first can give
> you an answer what to do as quick help.
>
> Marcus
>
>


Re: Spam hitting the list servers

2015-12-04 Thread Marcus

Am 12/04/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Dave:

The level of spam arriving on our list servers has been steadily
increasing. A couple of years ago moderators might have to filter a
dozen or so attempted spam posts per day sent to the dev, marketing,
doc, api&  users lists. Now this can sometimes be the hourly count.
Today, the dev list server is being hit with a flood attack from a
Google+ account running into hundreds per hour.

Is there any specific Infra contact who can deal with this, or should I
simply submit a general Infra ticket?


thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I've set Infra into CC, so that e don't loose time and the first can 
give you an answer what to do as quick help.


Marcus


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Spam hitting the list servers

2015-12-04 Thread Dave
The level of spam arriving on our list servers has been steadily
increasing. A couple of years ago moderators might have to filter a
dozen or so attempted spam posts per day sent to the dev, marketing,
doc, api & users lists. Now this can sometimes be the hourly count.
Today, the dev list server is being hit with a flood attack from a
Google+ account running into hundreds per hour.

Is there any specific Infra contact who can deal with this, or should I
simply submit a general Infra ticket?

Thanks
Dave


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Re: Windows 10

2015-12-04 Thread Marcus

Am 12/04/2015 05:46 AM, schrieb Jane Linkswiler:

Oh. I just wondered because it's not listed with the other windows versions.


can you tell us where on which webpage you are missing this information?

The system requirements [1] are listing all Windows versions incl. 10.

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html

Thanks

Marcus




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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:07 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Jane Linkswiler
Subject: Re: Windows 10

Am 11/29/2015 04:31 AM, schrieb Jane Linkswiler:

Do I take it that Open Office is not usable on Windows 10? When might it

be?

there is nothing special that has to be done. OpenOffice should run on
Windows 10 as on other Windows versions, too.

Marcus


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Re: [RISK?] FW: Daily/Nightly builds for Windows?

2015-12-04 Thread Kay Schenk


On 12/04/2015 08:27 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> [BCC PMC and QA Lists. This is a serious topic for dev@ community
> discussion.]
> 
> Can we have some visibility on this, please?
> 
> The last aoo-win7 ASF Buildbot success was on 2015-07-28.
> Thereafter, the Buildbot reported exceptions until 2015-10-03.
> There have been no reports at all from that Buildbot since.
> 
> For 4.1.2, the only current builds were the Release Candidates.
> This left very little time for QA testing, with each new RC
> required retesting to some degree.  Those were very short
> windows.
> 
> This also means that the only way to verify anything about
> Windows functions by developers, QA, and anyone else is to have
> the personal means and the computer capacity to do development
> builds, matching the build parameters and other dependencies used
> for release builds.  Isn't that too select and narrow for the
> attention that is required?
> 
> This seems to be at least a quality risk.
> 
> There is also a question of exactly what the present capability
> and capacity is in contrast to what is required to support
> continuous integration of Windows builds.
> 
> - Dennis

I recently modified the buildbot instructions for Linux-32 which
worked one time and now also seems to be non-functioning. I haven't
had time to check on this yet.

As far as the windows buildbot. Some suggestions/approaches.

* take a look at the output from the last build:

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/win/log/wntmsci12.pro.build.html

I submitted a Jira issue on this a while back. I don't know if the
issue lies in our build scripts for Windows or something else.

ref: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10481

* take a look at the buildbot setup for Windows (committers only):

https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf

Does the configuration for Windows need to be changed in some way?

We can fix buildbot configurations but not resource problems with
the buildbots.


> 
> 
>> -Original Message- From: Pedro Lino
>> [mailto:pedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015
>> 03:58 To: q...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Daily/Nightly
>> builds for Windows?
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Now that 4.1.2 is out and development is again active, I
>> believe it would be good to have the Apache OpenOffice
>> buildbots releasing daily binaries for Windows as well?
>> 
>> This has been broken long before the 4.1.2 RC stage but maybe
>> now someone could give some love to the buildbot?
>> 
>> With nearly 1 million downloads per day for the Windows
>> platform alone, I believe that it would make sense to make sure
>> that AOO is improved and that any regressions are detected
>> early.
>> 
>> Best regards, Pedro
> 
> 
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[RISK?] FW: Daily/Nightly builds for Windows?

2015-12-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC PMC and QA Lists. This is a serious topic for dev@ community discussion.]

Can we have some visibility on this, please?

The last aoo-win7 ASF Buildbot success was on 2015-07-28.  Thereafter, the 
Buildbot reported exceptions until 2015-10-03.  There have been no reports at 
all from that Buildbot since.

For 4.1.2, the only current builds were the Release Candidates.  This left very 
little time for QA testing, with each new RC required retesting to some degree. 
 Those were very short windows.

This also means that the only way to verify anything about Windows functions by 
developers, QA, and anyone else is to have the personal means and the computer 
capacity to do development builds, matching the build parameters and other 
dependencies used for release builds.  Isn't that too select and narrow for the 
attention that is required?  

This seems to be at least a quality risk.

There is also a question of exactly what the present capability and capacity is 
in contrast to what is required to support continuous integration of Windows 
builds.

 - Dennis


> -Original Message-
> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 03:58
> To: q...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Daily/Nightly builds for Windows?
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Now that 4.1.2 is out and development is again active, I believe it
> would
> be good to have the Apache OpenOffice buildbots releasing daily binaries
> for Windows as well?
> 
> This has been broken long before the 4.1.2 RC stage but maybe now
> someone
> could give some love to the buildbot?
> 
> With nearly 1 million downloads per day for the Windows platform alone,
> I
> believe that it would make sense to make sure that AOO is improved and
> that
> any regressions are detected early.
> 
> Best regards,
> Pedro


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Re: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

2015-12-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Carl;

Great job so far!

I agree they should be voted as a bundle. In the future we should just build 
this
stuff along with the release and it would be automatic part of the release
engineering process.

In that order of ideas, the .pom files should be uploaded to SVN even if they 
are
disconnected from the build at this time.

Regards,

Pedro.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

2015-12-04 Thread Carl Marcum

Dennis,

Since this a release of primarily pre-built binaries that are already 
included with AOO I need some guidance on the requirements.


They are libraries so they can't be run for testing.  Maybe if someone 
uses them as libraries they could test them that way.


Three of them can be built from the provided sources but in general they 
are built during AOO builds.


I think :

1. Crypto should be verified.

2. Check that LICENSE, NOTICE is present.

3.  Review the README for the 2 source and javadoc jars with missing 
sources.


4. Review the .pom file

Am I missing anything?

Thanks for all your guidance on this,

Carl

On 12/04/2015 12:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Carl,

Thanks for everything you are doing to provide these useful components for 
others.

I suggest waiting over the weekend to ensure that any and all 
concerns/suggestions are heard.

I don't see any reason against voting on the distribution of these as a bundle.

It would be useful to discuss exactly what it is a binding vote is expected to 
signify.  Are there actions expected and anything that a voter is to confirm?

  - Dennis

  


-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 19:35
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

I have created Maven bundles for the four Java UNO jar files previously
released by OpenOffice.org v3.2.1.
   juh-4.1.2-bundle.jar [1],  jurt-4.1.2-bundle.jar [2],
ridl-4.1.2-bundle.jar [3],  unoil.jar-4.1.2-bundle.jar [4]

and additionally officebean-4.1.2-bundle.jar [5]

The jar files were copied from my installed AOO 4.1.2 program/classes
directory.  I added META-INF/LICENSE and NOTICE files.
Java source files used for *-4.1.2-sources.jar were copied from my
updated working copy of trunk.
Javadoc files used for *-4.1.2-javadoc.jar were generated from these
sources.

ridl.jar is built from a mix of java sources and classes generated from
IDL files during a complete office build.
A META-INF/README file is included in the sources and javadoc jars to
explain this.

unoil.jar is completely built from IDL generated classes during a
complete office build.
A META-INF/README file is included in the sources and javadoc jars to
explain this.

These jars and the .pom files were PGP signed by me on my machine.

I was concerned about not having complete java sources and javadoc so I
asked on the legal-discuss list.
An answer to my question is here [6].

Maven repository guidelines [7]
Apache Maven Publishing [8]

If all this looks okay I will call for vote on these.

Do I call for one vote on all or individually?

Thanks,
Carl

[1]
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheopenoffice-
1005/
[2]
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheopenoffice-
1006/
[3]
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheopenoffice-
1007/
[4]
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheopenoffice-
1008/
[5]
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheopenoffice-
1009/
[6]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-
discuss/201512.mbox/%3C5660076A.8090909%40apache.org%3E
[7] http://central.sonatype.org/pages/requirements.html
[8] http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html

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Fwd: Ihre Praesentation bei den Chemnitzer Linux-Tagen 2016

2015-12-04 Thread RA Stehmann
Hello,

we made a request for a booth on the  Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2016 at 19th
and 20th of march 2016.

See https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2016/de

Kind regards
Michael


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RE: Windows 10

2015-12-04 Thread Jane Linkswiler
Oh. I just wondered because it's not listed with the other windows versions.

Jane in Phoenix

-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:07 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Jane Linkswiler 
Subject: Re: Windows 10

Am 11/29/2015 04:31 AM, schrieb Jane Linkswiler:
> Do I take it that Open Office is not usable on Windows 10? When might it
be?

there is nothing special that has to be done. OpenOffice should run on
Windows 10 as on other Windows versions, too.

Marcus



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