Re: 4.1.3 building

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:45:02PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> >IMO providing different builds for same arch will make it difficult to
> >QA, so I will go on with the Linux 64-bit builds.
> 
> Yes, if you already started uploading Linux-64 I agree this is the best
> solution.
> 
> > If someone wants to
> >build on CentOS 5 32 bit and upload the binaries, please tell and do so.
> 
> I haven't done it yet, but it's likely I can upload and build them by Friday
> night European time (if bandwidth allows). I'm more confident with Linux-64
> since I have plenty of machines where I can test it. But Linux-32 should
> work too. If it helps to get things ready earlier, I can thus do Linux-32.
> Just let me know.

I started uploading the Linux 32-bit packages; Windows installers with
newer VC redist come next. So the only thing missing is the source
release tars and zip.


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Re: Bootstrap fails

[Don Lewis]

On 28 Sep, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 05:15:06PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote:
>> >> In theory, when linking the library. I opened
>> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127139 to track this issue.
>> >> I don't have a system to reproduce it right now. I will try to set up
>> >> a vm on the weekend.
>> >>
>> > 
>> > OK. So if I understand correctly, it is not possible to build AOO on
>> > Ubuntu right now. Or is there a workaround?
>> 
>> I haven't had any problems building trunk on Ubuntu 12 or 16.  It's been
>> a few weeks since I last tried, but I don't think anything significant
>> has changed recently.
> 
> This happens on the 32 bit Ubuntu buildot, with trunk and AOO413, on
> Ubuntu 14:

My Ubuntu 16 builds were 32 bit.

I'll see if I can reproduce this once I have some available CPU cycles
on my build machine, but it'll probably be several days.


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Re: 4.1.3 building

[Andrea Pescetti]

Marcus wrote:

Am 09/27/2016 11:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Possibly. But those files are generated during the build anyway, so the
fact that RAT does not know about them is irrelevant.

Sure, but the report is not green. But IMHO it should be green when we
want to look at 4.1.3 as official release.
At the end it's just an extended excludes list.


RAT is a tool that we might even not want to use. The important thing is 
license compatibility, and we are OK on that aspect. Though, I suggest 
that you open an issue about this and nominate it as a 4.1.4 (not 4.1.3) 
blocker.


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Re: Bootstrap fails

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 05:15:06PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote:
> >> In theory, when linking the library. I opened
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127139 to track this issue.
> >> I don't have a system to reproduce it right now. I will try to set up
> >> a vm on the weekend.
> >>
> > 
> > OK. So if I understand correctly, it is not possible to build AOO on
> > Ubuntu right now. Or is there a workaround?
> 
> I haven't had any problems building trunk on Ubuntu 12 or 16.  It's been
> a few weeks since I last tried, but I don't think anything significant
> has changed recently.

This happens on the 32 bit Ubuntu buildot, with trunk and AOO413, on
Ubuntu 14:

bb_slave5_ubuntu
Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly
https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-41x

since
https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly/builds/407/steps/build%20--all/logs/stdio

Last completed build was on the old vm

==> /etc/lsb-release <==
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS"

==> /etc/os-release <==
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="12.04.5 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.5 LTS)"
VERSION_ID="12.04"
Linux bb-vm2 3.2.0-97-generic-pae #137-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 21:37:53
UTC 2015 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

see
https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly/builds/404/steps/configure/logs/stdio


The new vm:

==> /etc/lsb-release <==
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"

==> /etc/os-release <==
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="14.04.5 LTS, Trusty Tahr"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"
VERSION_ID="14.04"

https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly/builds/407/steps/configure/logs/stdio


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Re: Bootstrap fails

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hello Aleksandr,

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:00:09PM +0300, Aleksandr Andreev wrote:
> Hello Ariel,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
>  wrote:
> >
> > In theory, when linking the library. I opened
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127139 to track this issue.
> > I don't have a system to reproduce it right now. I will try to set up
> > a vm on the weekend.
> >
> 
> OK. So if I understand correctly, it is not possible to build AOO on
> Ubuntu right now. Or is there a workaround?

Not that I'm aware of; so yes, the build is broken on this Ubuntu
system.


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Re: Bootstrap fails

[Don Lewis]

On 28 Sep, Aleksandr Andreev wrote:
> Hello Ariel,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
>  wrote:
>>
>> In theory, when linking the library. I opened
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127139 to track this issue.
>> I don't have a system to reproduce it right now. I will try to set up
>> a vm on the weekend.
>>
> 
> OK. So if I understand correctly, it is not possible to build AOO on
> Ubuntu right now. Or is there a workaround?

I haven't had any problems building trunk on Ubuntu 12 or 16.  It's been
a few weeks since I last tried, but I don't think anything significant
has changed recently.


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Re: Test planning for 4.1.3

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Patricia,

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 08:51:40AM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> I am currently thinking about testing, and test result collection, for
> 4.1.3.
> 
> Is there an OpenOffice QA person in the house?
> 
> If so, I would like to let you take charge of organizing testing, and just
> provide some suggestions.

There used to be some formal QA, including test link instance
a https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Testlink that seems to be up and
running at http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/lostPassword.php

You may find some QA information on the cwiki too.

These all was driven forward by the former IBM Symphony QA members, so
I guess these is all abandoned now,


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4.1.3_release_blocker granted: [Issue 127140] Installer includes VC package older than 4.1.2

[bugzilla]

Patricia Shanahan  has granted Pedro 's
request for 4.1.3_release_blocker:
Issue 127140: Installer includes VC package older than 4.1.2
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127140

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Re: 4.1.3 building

[Marcus]

Am 09/27/2016 11:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 25/09/2016 Marcus wrote:

Finally I got a AOO 4.1.3 with release options - but only en-US. I used
the following varaible + value in the build script: ...
LANG="de en-US fr pt ja"

the language option seems to be a problem with the build script:
Not OK:
--with-lang="${LANGS}"
OK:
--with-lang="de en-US fr pt ja"


Note that you have LANG and LANGS above, and that LANG happens to be set
by the system in the shell in general. The script from SVN


yes, sorry, just a typo. I've always used LANGS.


http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.3/
works well for me; if it doesn't for you we can check better, but of
course the explicit list is equivalent.


I've played with deleting the brackets {} or quotes "" but it doesn't 
helped. There must be something else that is special in my setup.



Ratscan shows the following files without correct header:
- main/LinuxX64-64Env.Set
- main/LinuxX64-64Env.Set.sh
- main/autom4te.cache/output.0
- main/autom4te.cache/requests
- main/autom4te.cache/traces.0
- main/config.log
- main/config.params
- main/configure
- main/warn
Something to add to "main/rat-excludes"?


Possibly. But those files are generated during the build anyway, so the
fact that RAT does not know about them is irrelevant.


Sure, but the report is not green. But IMHO it should be green when we 
want to look at 4.1.3 as official release.


At the end it's just an extended excludes list.

Marcus


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Re: Testing 4.1.3

[Patricia Shanahan]

The release candidate binaries, if the release is approved, will be 
uploaded exactly as is to SourceForge. They need to do what a release 
would do.


You do have the option, if building yourself, of generating an archive 
that can be run without installing.


On 9/28/2016 1:30 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:

Thanks, up and running.

BTW, I noticed that it installed over my 4.1.2.
I don't remember if the RCs used to install in lieu of the production
version in the past but it may be surprising for some users.
Shouldn't it be installed in parallel (with no desktop-integration)?
More hassle but if it's for testing purpose, we can imagine that the
user knows what to do.
Just my 2 cents, it is not meant to add delays to change that.

Hagar


Le 27/09/2016 à 20:44, Keith N. McKenna a écrit :

Hagar Delest wrote:

Sorry for the stupid question but is there a link to the builds???
Not able to find any on the web site or even in the mail...
Or should we wait for the RC (there used to be links on the website for
the RCs).

Hagar


Le 26/09/2016 à 22:51, Marcus a écrit :

Am 09/25/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 09/25/2016 04:33 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I suggest that people start downloading and testing 4.1.3 as soon as
there are binaries they can run. I can't start the formal vote period
until we have a complete release candidate.

thanks for the pointer, I'll wait for the Linux 64-bit and Windows
builds.

grrr, I was to fast with my offer as I'm not available until Thursday.
I'll test the builds then if it's still early enough.

Sorry

Marcus


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Hagar;

Development builds are being made available at the following location:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3/binaries/
Click on your language and all currently available installers and
language packs are available. ariaelch is still updating so if you do
not see what you need yet it may well be coming soon. Note these are
development builds only at this point, not Release Candidates.

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Orientation, part 2

[R. Mark Aldrich]

Hi,

I have read the second orientation page with no questions or comments.

Mark Aldrich

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Introduction

[R. Mark Aldrich]

Hi,

Well, I have finished reading through the section titled "Introduction to 
Contributing to Apache OpenOffice". There are a couple of things which I need 
to point out to the webpage editor. Section 5 starts with "A useful shortcut 
notation you will often see on the lists.", which makes sense if you read it as 
Yoda, but I think it would make more sense to change it to "You will often see 
useful shortcut notations on the lists."  The other problem I noticed is in 
section 9.3., "Our Bugzilla database (sometimes called BZ) where we report and 
track status on bugs." has Bugzilla as a link, but the destination of the link 
is the "Intro..." page. Thanks for putting up with my nit-picking.

Mark

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Re: Testing 4.1.3

[Hagar Delest]

Thanks, up and running.

BTW, I noticed that it installed over my 4.1.2.
I don't remember if the RCs used to install in lieu of the production version 
in the past but it may be surprising for some users.
Shouldn't it be installed in parallel (with no desktop-integration)? More 
hassle but if it's for testing purpose, we can imagine that the user knows what 
to do.
Just my 2 cents, it is not meant to add delays to change that.

Hagar


Le 27/09/2016 à 20:44, Keith N. McKenna a écrit :

Hagar Delest wrote:

Sorry for the stupid question but is there a link to the builds???
Not able to find any on the web site or even in the mail...
Or should we wait for the RC (there used to be links on the website for
the RCs).

Hagar


Le 26/09/2016 à 22:51, Marcus a écrit :

Am 09/25/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 09/25/2016 04:33 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I suggest that people start downloading and testing 4.1.3 as soon as
there are binaries they can run. I can't start the formal vote period
until we have a complete release candidate.

thanks for the pointer, I'll wait for the Linux 64-bit and Windows
builds.

grrr, I was to fast with my offer as I'm not available until Thursday.
I'll test the builds then if it's still early enough.

Sorry

Marcus


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Hagar;

Development builds are being made available at the following location:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3/binaries/
Click on your language and all currently available installers and
language packs are available. ariaelch is still updating so if you do
not see what you need yet it may well be coming soon. Note these are
development builds only at this point, not Release Candidates.

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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

[Keith N. McKenna]

R. Mark Aldrich wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Mark Aldrich and my user name on Confluence is darklarchrim. May I 
> have edit permission to add my name to the list of volunteers?
> 
> Mark
> 
Mark;

Your User Name darklarchrim has been white-listed on Confluence

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[CWiki] Account Whitelisting

[R. Mark Aldrich]

Hi,

My name is Mark Aldrich and my user name on Confluence is darklarchrim. May I 
have edit permission to add my name to the list of volunteers?

Mark


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Test planning for 4.1.3

[Patricia Shanahan]

I am currently thinking about testing, and test result collection, for 
4.1.3.


Is there an OpenOffice QA person in the house?

If so, I would like to let you take charge of organizing testing, and 
just provide some suggestions.


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Re: 4.1.3 building

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

IMO providing different builds for same arch will make it difficult to
QA, so I will go on with the Linux 64-bit builds.


Yes, if you already started uploading Linux-64 I agree this is the best 
solution.



 If someone wants to
build on CentOS 5 32 bit and upload the binaries, please tell and do so.


I haven't done it yet, but it's likely I can upload and build them by 
Friday night European time (if bandwidth allows). I'm more confident 
with Linux-64 since I have plenty of machines where I can test it. But 
Linux-32 should work too. If it helps to get things ready earlier, I can 
thus do Linux-32. Just let me know.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Bootstrap fails

[Aleksandr Andreev]

Hello Ariel,

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 wrote:
>
> In theory, when linking the library. I opened
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127139 to track this issue.
> I don't have a system to reproduce it right now. I will try to set up
> a vm on the weekend.
>

OK. So if I understand correctly, it is not possible to build AOO on
Ubuntu right now. Or is there a workaround?

Aleksandr

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Github mirror (Re: Bootstrap fails)

[Andrea Pescetti]

Gavin McDonald wrote:

From: Andrea Pescetti
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-11601

How long has it been broken?


I opened the above issue in April 2016.


Has infra been asked to fix it?


In the issue I say that the Github mirror is broken and I ask if there 
is a way to fix it. I consider this as a request to Infra to fix it.



Github mirrors do get stuck and go stale on occasion, and an Infra Jira to
ask them to unstick it on those occasions should work.


OK thanks, I'll give it a try unless one can simply reopen the above.


(If not then we ask to have it removed)


OK.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Hello

[Patricia Shanahan]

Welcome. I used to go to Beaverton quite often when I was working for
FPS and its successors.

We are currently testing a 4.1.3 release candidate. You can download
many different binaries from
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3/binaries/

On 9/27/2016 5:04 PM, R. Mark Aldrich wrote:

Hi,

My name is Mark Aldrich and I am planning on offering my help with
development. I live in Beaverton, Oregon, USA, a city just southwest
of Portland. I think of myself as a software engineer because I have
been writing code for over 40 years. In my spare time, I do
woodworking.

I am currently going through the first section of the Orientation
Module.

Mark


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Re: Hello

[RA Stehmann]

Hello Mark,

thank you for your offer and a heartly welcome.

Regards
Michael
Duesseldorf, Rhine-Area, Germany

Am 28.09.2016 um 02:04 schrieb R. Mark Aldrich:
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Mark Aldrich and I am planning on offering my help with 
> development. I live in Beaverton, Oregon, USA, a city just southwest of 
> Portland. I think of myself as a software engineer because I have been 
> writing code for over 40 years. In my spare time, I do woodworking.
> 
> I am currently going through the first section of the Orientation Module.
> 
> Mark
> 




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Re: entstellender Beitrag zu OpenOffice

[Jörg Schmidt]

> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

> Mir war schon klar, dass Du das etwas weniger gelassen 
> siehst. Das kann
> ich auch nachvollziehen.
> 
> Ich habe das aber hier auch deshalb auf die Liste gepostet, 
> um ein paar
> Argumente gegen den Artikel insgesamt festzuhalten.
> 
> Ich hoffe natürlich, dass Du mit Deiner Eingabe Erfolg hast.

ich habe keine Eingabe gemacht, aber ich habe mich mit voller Namensnennung und 
Verweis auf meine berufliche Tätigkeit (inklusive Webseite) zu Wort gemeldet 
und den Artikel sinngemäß als "FUD" bezeichnet.
Das ist möglicherweise nicht viel, aber mehr als meine Autorität für OpenOffice 
in den Ring werfen kann ich nicht, mehr tun kann nur Apache selbst.


Gruß
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Hello

[R. Mark Aldrich]

Hi,

My name is Mark Aldrich and I am planning on offering my help with development. 
I live in Beaverton, Oregon, USA, a city just southwest of Portland. I think of 
myself as a software engineer because I have been writing code for over 40 
years. In my spare time, I do woodworking.

I am currently going through the first section of the Orientation Module.

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Re: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Formsbirds]

Hello,

Thank for your kind response. 


We prefer to re-enable our account susie...@yandex.com. Since you are busy with 
the new revision release, We will clean up the templates by ourselves. Please 
just recover the account.
Thank you very much!


Regards,
Katie Williams

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:54:16 -0700 Andrea Pescetti 
pesce...@apache.org wrote  

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote: 
 Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites 
which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. 
 Can someone help? 
 
As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content. 
 
Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines. 
 
Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us. 
 
Regards, 
 Andrea. 

Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Martin Groenescheij]

To my honest opinion the template website is one big mess, over 23 
thousand templates

from which many are menu cards, price lists and store locators.
I believe Google is the place to find this type of information.
Templates should be templates and not an alternative to advertise products.

Probably submitters should periodically confirm the validity of the 
template and if not

confirmed go into archive mode.

On 28/09/16 9:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:
Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions 
sites which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache 
OpenOffice PMC.

Can someone help?


As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove 
content.


Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get 
their templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse 
will penalize them in search engines.


Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they 
clean up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't 
have time to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - 
possibly next week, but if they really are in a hurry they might want 
to take care of this themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you 
prefer this option just tell us.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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