Re: 4.1.8 RC2 build broken when configured with --without-fonts
It’s a guess, but which Java are you using?
Some of those look like java doc errors.
Regards,
Dave
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> On Oct 9, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Don Lewis wrote:
>
> I started working on the FreeBSD port for 4.1.8. Unlike the the other
> ports, the FreeBSD port doesn't bundle fonts with the package. Instead
> it uses fonts from the system, installing them separately if necessary.
> To do this, it configures with the --without-fonts option. This 4.1.8
> RC2 fails with this error:
>
> preparing 0 bundled extensions for language en-US:
> ... analyzing files with flag ARCHIVE ...
> ... reading include pathes ...
> ... analyzing script:
> /home/dl/openoffice/main/solver/418/unxlngx6.pro/bin/setup_osl.ins ...
> ... analyzing script:
> /home/dl/openoffice/main/solver/418/unxlngx6.pro/bin/setup_osl.ins ...
> ... analyzing directories ...
> ... analyzing files ...
> ... analyzing scpactions ...
> ... analyzing shortcuts ...
> ... analyzing unix links ...
> ... analyzing profile ...
> ... analyzing profileitems ...
> ... analyzing modules ...
>
> ... languages en-US ...
>
> **
> ERROR: ERROR: Missing files
> in function: remove_Files_Without_Sourcedirectory
> **
> ... analyzing files ...
> preparing 1 extension blob for language en-US:
>dict-en.oxt
> preparing 0 bundled extensions for language en-US:
> ERROR: The following files could not be found:
> ERROR: File not found: fc_local.conf
> ... cleaning the output tree ...
> ... removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_199031602279361 ...
> Error: ERROR: Missing files
> in function: remove_Files_Without_Sourcedirectorystopping log at Fri Oct 9
> 14:36:03 2020
>
> This can be reproduced on Linux.
>
>
>
> I started working on a patch but then ran into another failure much
> earlier in the build that now happens either with without my patch.
>
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Selection.java:94:
> warning: no @param for p
>public void setActiveCell(Point p) {
>^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:48:
> warning: no description for @param
> * @param str
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:50:
> warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
>public StringValue(String str) throws IOException {
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:61:
> warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
>public StringValue(InputStream is) throws IOException {
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:109:
> warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
>public String getString() throws IOException {
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Workbook.java:361:
> error: invalid use of @return
> * @return name the name of the Worksheet to be added
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Workbook.java:375:
> error: invalid use of @return
> * @return the name of the Worksheet to be added
> ^
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Worksheet.java:253:
> error: invalid use of @return
> * @return an Enumeration to the ColInfo's
> ^
> Building index for all the packages and classes...
> Building index for all classes...
> Generating
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/unxfbsdx.pro/class/javadoc/help-doc.html...
> 15 errors
> 100 warnings
>
> main:
>
> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
> Total time: 2 seconds
>
> Entering
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/activesync
>
> xmerge deliver
> deliver -- version: 275594
> COPY: build.lst ->
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/xmerge/build.lst
> COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/xmerge.jar ->
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/xmerge.jar
> COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/pexcel.jar ->
> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/pexce
4.1.8 RC2 build broken when configured with --without-fonts
I started working on the FreeBSD port for 4.1.8. Unlike the the other
ports, the FreeBSD port doesn't bundle fonts with the package. Instead
it uses fonts from the system, installing them separately if necessary.
To do this, it configures with the --without-fonts option. This 4.1.8
RC2 fails with this error:
preparing 0 bundled extensions for language en-US:
... analyzing files with flag ARCHIVE ...
... reading include pathes ...
... analyzing script:
/home/dl/openoffice/main/solver/418/unxlngx6.pro/bin/setup_osl.ins ...
... analyzing script:
/home/dl/openoffice/main/solver/418/unxlngx6.pro/bin/setup_osl.ins ...
... analyzing directories ...
... analyzing files ...
... analyzing scpactions ...
... analyzing shortcuts ...
... analyzing unix links ...
... analyzing profile ...
... analyzing profileitems ...
... analyzing modules ...
... languages en-US ...
**
ERROR: ERROR: Missing files
in function: remove_Files_Without_Sourcedirectory
**
... analyzing files ...
preparing 1 extension blob for language en-US:
dict-en.oxt
preparing 0 bundled extensions for language en-US:
ERROR: The following files could not be found:
ERROR: File not found: fc_local.conf
... cleaning the output tree ...
... removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_199031602279361 ...
Error: ERROR: Missing files
in function: remove_Files_Without_Sourcedirectorystopping log at Fri Oct 9
14:36:03 2020
This can be reproduced on Linux.
I started working on a patch but then ran into another failure much
earlier in the build that now happens either with without my patch.
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Selection.java:94:
warning: no @param for p
public void setActiveCell(Point p) {
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:48:
warning: no description for @param
* @param str
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:50:
warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
public StringValue(String str) throws IOException {
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:61:
warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
public StringValue(InputStream is) throws IOException {
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/StringValue.java:109:
warning: no @throws for java.io.IOException
public String getString() throws IOException {
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Workbook.java:361:
error: invalid use of @return
* @return name the name of the Worksheet to be added
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Workbook.java:375:
error: invalid use of @return
* @return the name of the Worksheet to be added
^
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/pexcel/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/sxc/pexcel/records/Worksheet.java:253:
error: invalid use of @return
* @return an Enumeration to the ColInfo's
^
Building index for all the packages and classes...
Building index for all classes...
Generating
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/unxfbsdx.pro/class/javadoc/help-doc.html...
15 errors
100 warnings
main:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 2 seconds
Entering
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/xmerge/source/activesync
xmerge deliver
deliver -- version: 275594
COPY: build.lst ->
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/xmerge/build.lst
COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/xmerge.jar ->
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/xmerge.jar
COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/pexcel.jar ->
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/pexcel.jar
COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/htmlsoff.jar ->
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/htmlsoff.jar
COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/aportisdoc.jar ->
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-4/work/aoo-4.1.8/main/solver/418/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/aportisdoc.jar
COPY: ../unxfbsdx.pro/class/XMergeBridge.jar ->
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
Hi Keith, Am 10.10.20 um 00:11 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > > Greetings all; > > Uninstalled RC1 and then installed RC2 again and know opens with no > problem. Thanks to all That's really good news! Regards, Matthias > > Regards > Keith > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
On 10/9/2020 4:25 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > On 10/9/2020 2:56 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Keith, >> >> Am 09.10.20 um 20:51 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: >>> When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: >>> Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz >>> Installed Memory: 8.00 GB >>> System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor >>> Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) >>> I get the following error message: >>> >>> OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error >>> The application cannot be started. >>> [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception >> >> It starts without problem on my Windows 10 2004. >> >> Can you try one of these: >> >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-418-Test/Full%20Installation/ >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >>> > > Hi Matthias; > > Tried the en-us from there with same. I installed the RC1 with no > problem I will do a complete uninstall of that and try RC2 again. > > Keith > Greetings all; Uninstalled RC1 and then installed RC2 again and know opens with no problem. Thanks to all Regards Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: New Mirror OpenOffice
Am 09.10.20 um 11:54 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 11:36 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: New Mirror OpenOffice Check this link: https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice yes, and what else? This link leads to an Apache server and it has always been communicated that we should not spread these links widely in public, so that there is not too much traffic. In other words this link is a link for situations where there are temporary problems with Sourceforge and not a link that should be distributed as a normal, general download link. Or do I see it wrong? If yes, I would, from now on, publicly distribute this link as a download link and would not refer to our download page anymore, which redirects to Sourceforge. You have asked for an alternate DL Link. This is the alternate DL link. If I were you I would promote both links. Let the user choose, and tell the pros and cons if possible. IMHO if you are unhappy with SF.net, or any other group we should discuss alternates. I want to remind all PMC members that the PMC has discussed alternate structures as backup or as full replacement to SF.net in 2018. It got stuck and as much on the things we volunteers do, it did not advance. But stuck does not mean we can not continue, if there is interest. We can also invite SF.net to discuss with our community ways on improving the situation. Or explain the situation why it is as it is. We can bring people together. Just as an alternate Idea. I am satisfied with the service that SF.net provides to us. The PMC has also discussed the Idea to accredit 3rd party pages. But we never brought this to dev. If there are people interested to pick this idea up I am sure we can discuss Ideas. There are lots of Ideas within the community what we could do. It mostly dies when there is no volunteer to take action. The PMC can not do miracles. We should ask ourselves what we can do together and not what this person or another person should do, for me. Ask yourself what you can do for the Project ;) Even small things can cause a big difference. In other places the passing of the PMC is regularly viewed negatively. Sure let them talk. They do not matter. If they are looking for constructive improvement they can bring up their Issues on dev. Anything else does not matter! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
On 10/9/2020 2:56 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Am 09.10.20 um 20:51 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: >> When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: >> Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz >> Installed Memory: 8.00 GB >> System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor >> Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) >> I get the following error message: >> >> OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error >> The application cannot be started. >> [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception > > It starts without problem on my Windows 10 2004. > > Can you try one of these: > > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-418-Test/Full%20Installation/ > > Regards, > > Matthias > >> Hi Matthias; Tried the en-us from there with same. I installed the RC1 with no problem I will do a complete uninstall of that and try RC2 again. Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
Hi Keith, Am 09.10.20 um 22:22 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > On 10/9/2020 2:53 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> Do you get similar with DOA RC1? > Just installed 4.1.8 RC1 and opened with no problem. There were no changes in code or build environment between RC1 and RC2 for Windows... Can you try to download RC2 again? > >>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Keith N. McKenna >>> wrote: >>> >>> When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: >>> Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz >>> Installed Memory: 8.00 GB >>> System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor >>> Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) >>> I get the following error message: >>> >>> OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error >>> The application cannot be started. >>> [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception >>> >>> Regards >>> Keith >>> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
On 10/9/2020 2:53 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Do you get similar with DOA RC1? Just installed 4.1.8 RC1 and opened with no problem. > >> On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Keith N. McKenna >> wrote: >> >> When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: >> Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz >> Installed Memory: 8.00 GB >> System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor >> Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) >> I get the following error message: >> >> OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error >> The application cannot be started. >> [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception >> >> Regards >> Keith >> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
I just installed the en-US build from the link Jim provided ( https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.8-RC2/binaries/en-US/) and it starts with no problem. I am on Windows 10 build 2004. Regards, Francis On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:56 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Am 09.10.20 um 20:51 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > > When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: > > Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz > > Installed Memory: 8.00 GB > > System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor > > Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) > > I get the following error message: > > > > OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error > > The application cannot be started. > > [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception > > It starts without problem on my Windows 10 2004. > > Can you try one of these: > > > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-418-Test/Full%20Installation/ > > Regards, > >Matthias > > > > > Regards > > Keith > > > >
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
Hi Keith, Am 09.10.20 um 20:51 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: > Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz > Installed Memory: 8.00 GB > System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor > Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) > I get the following error message: > > OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error > The application cannot be started. > [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception It starts without problem on my Windows 10 2004. Can you try one of these: https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-418-Test/Full%20Installation/ Regards, Matthias > > Regards > Keith > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
Do you get similar with DOA RC1? > On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Keith N. McKenna > wrote: > > When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: > Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz > Installed Memory: 8.00 GB > System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor > Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) > I get the following error message: > > OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error > The application cannot be started. > [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception > > Regards > Keith > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
potential problem with version 4.1.8 RC2
When I install 4.1.8 RC2 on windows 10: System Configuration: Processor: Intel Pentium CPU 4450U @2.10GHz Installed Memory: 8.00 GB System Type 64-bit Operating System X64-based processor Operating System: Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1016) I get the following error message: OpenOffice 4.1.8 - Fatal Error The application cannot be started. [context= "shared"]caught unexpected exception Regards Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: New Mirror OpenOffice
Hi Peter, Am 09.10.20 um 11:35 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Check this link: > https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice Better use: https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/ However, this should be used as fallback only... Regards, Matthias > > > > Am 9. Oktober 2020 09:48:39 MESZ schrieb "Jörg Schmidt" > : >> Hello Dave, >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 8:12 PM >>> To: dev >>> Subject: Re: New Mirror OpenOffice >>> 9 years ago when the project joined it was decided that >>> OpenOffice was too heavy for the mirror system. Until >>> recently we had to let Infra know before we made a release in >>> order to make sure the network was not saturated with rsync requests. >>> >>> If you are interested here is the status of Apache mirrors. >>> https://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html >>> >>> The question to ask Infra is if it is time for OpenOffice to >>> be added to the Mirror System. Is the size still an issue? >>> >>> What would be the impact if mirrors could choose to add >>> OpenOffice at their discretion. That is a question for Apache Infra. >> I personally have no knowledge and no insight into the technical side. >> >> I only know that the download via Sourceforge is problematic for many >> users and that we do not offer an alternative. >> Even if this is only a single mirror, it would be a first step to >> create an alternative. >> We know exactly that we are almost completely dependent on >>> Sourceforge, because beyond Sourceforge we have only one >>> mirror (link I don't know at the moment) whose address is >>> only given in case of emergency and with the hint not to >>> spread the address too far so that the traffic doesn't get too high. >>> >>> I am more concerned about the Extensions and Templates sites >>> that are Drupal sites hosted by Source Forge. >> I know that there are problems there, but I myself capitulate to the >> lack of understanding of what is technically necessary and the (quasi) >> political will to solve certain things in a certain way. >> >> In my opinion it would be a good idea for the extensions to search for >> the best possible technical solution without preconditions and to >> implement it. >> This would be an interesting task, for which I am sure there would be >> volunteers. >> >> Is it worth to have a discussion about it? >> At OOo we had dozens of Mirrors in the past and why we do >>> not care if one is offered to us I do not understand. >>> >>> It is effort from volunteers to support everything. >>> >>> Where are there more details on serverion.com’s AOO mirror? >> I am not aware of anything else, I only recognize that a generous offer >> has been made to us here, which can be of great benefit to us and which >> we should therefore actively strive to realize. >> >> >> greetings, >> Jörg >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: New Mirror OpenOffice
Am 09.10.20 um 13:12 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 12:36 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: New Mirror OpenOffice Am 09.10.20 um 11:54 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 11:36 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: New Mirror OpenOffice Check this link: https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice yes, and what else? This link leads to an Apache server and it has always been communicated that we should not spread these links widely in public, so that there is not too much traffic. In other words this link is a link for situations where there are temporary problems with Sourceforge and not a link that should be distributed as a normal, general download link. Or do I see it wrong? If yes, I would, from now on, publicly distribute this link as a download link and would not refer to our download page anymore, which redirects to Sourceforge. sure, there could be problems. But do you know that there are none with other mirrror service? I don't think so. J Yes, but this aspect was not my topic here. (My topic was my uncertainty what is true, either to spread this link as little as possible in public or not). Again, ... Marcus, please be practical: it is not realistic to expect me to write to the ASF within a few hours, but if I do, I will consider the wording of my request a few days in advance. sure, no problem, take your time. I just wanted to express that you can do this yourself and don't need to wait for another person. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: New Mirror OpenOffice
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 12:36 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: New Mirror OpenOffice > > Am 09.10.20 um 11:54 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > >> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 11:36 AM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: RE: New Mirror OpenOffice > >> > >> Check this link: > >> https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice > > > > yes, and what else? > > > > This link leads to an Apache server and it has always been > communicated that we should not spread these links widely in > public, so that there is not too much traffic. > > > > In other words this link is a link for situations where > there are temporary problems with Sourceforge and not a link > that should be distributed as a normal, general download link. > > > > Or do I see it wrong? If yes, I would, from now on, > publicly distribute this link as a download link and would > not refer to our download page anymore, which redirects to > Sourceforge. > > sure, there could be problems. But do you know that there are > none with > other mirrror service? I don't think so. J Yes, but this aspect was not my topic here. (My topic was my uncertainty what is true, either to spread this link as little as possible in public or not). > Again, ... Marcus, please be practical: it is not realistic to expect me to write to the ASF within a few hours, but if I do, I will consider the wording of my request a few days in advance. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Mirror OpenOffice
Am 09.10.20 um 11:54 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 11:36 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: New Mirror OpenOffice Check this link: https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice yes, and what else? This link leads to an Apache server and it has always been communicated that we should not spread these links widely in public, so that there is not too much traffic. In other words this link is a link for situations where there are temporary problems with Sourceforge and not a link that should be distributed as a normal, general download link. Or do I see it wrong? If yes, I would, from now on, publicly distribute this link as a download link and would not refer to our download page anymore, which redirects to Sourceforge. sure, there could be problems. But do you know that there are none with other mirrror service? I don't think so. ;-) Therefore, Sourceforge.net is still our offical download partner. As Dave has commented already there is no certainty that the ASF mirror network can handle our traffic itself. And as long as we have no other statement from ASF Infra there is nothing we can do. Again, when your interest is indeed that big to change something please get in contact with the Infra team for mirrors at "mirr...@apache.org". Help to make your wish come true. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: New Mirror OpenOffice
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 11:36 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: New Mirror OpenOffice > > Check this link: > https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice yes, and what else? This link leads to an Apache server and it has always been communicated that we should not spread these links widely in public, so that there is not too much traffic. In other words this link is a link for situations where there are temporary problems with Sourceforge and not a link that should be distributed as a normal, general download link. Or do I see it wrong? If yes, I would, from now on, publicly distribute this link as a download link and would not refer to our download page anymore, which redirects to Sourceforge. greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: New Mirror OpenOffice
Check this link: https://dist.Apache.Org/repos/dist/release/openoffice Am 9. Oktober 2020 09:48:39 MESZ schrieb "Jörg Schmidt" : >Hello Dave, > >> -Original Message- >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 8:12 PM >> To: dev >> Subject: Re: New Mirror OpenOffice > >> 9 years ago when the project joined it was decided that >> OpenOffice was too heavy for the mirror system. Until >> recently we had to let Infra know before we made a release in >> order to make sure the network was not saturated with rsync requests. >> >> If you are interested here is the status of Apache mirrors. >> https://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html >> >> The question to ask Infra is if it is time for OpenOffice to >> be added to the Mirror System. Is the size still an issue? >> >> What would be the impact if mirrors could choose to add >> OpenOffice at their discretion. That is a question for Apache Infra. > >I personally have no knowledge and no insight into the technical side. > >I only know that the download via Sourceforge is problematic for many >users and that we do not offer an alternative. >Even if this is only a single mirror, it would be a first step to >create an alternative. > >> > We know exactly that we are almost completely dependent on >> Sourceforge, because beyond Sourceforge we have only one >> mirror (link I don't know at the moment) whose address is >> only given in case of emergency and with the hint not to >> spread the address too far so that the traffic doesn't get too high. >> >> I am more concerned about the Extensions and Templates sites >> that are Drupal sites hosted by Source Forge. > >I know that there are problems there, but I myself capitulate to the >lack of understanding of what is technically necessary and the (quasi) >political will to solve certain things in a certain way. > >In my opinion it would be a good idea for the extensions to search for >the best possible technical solution without preconditions and to >implement it. >This would be an interesting task, for which I am sure there would be >volunteers. > >Is it worth to have a discussion about it? > >> > At OOo we had dozens of Mirrors in the past and why we do >> not care if one is offered to us I do not understand. >> >> It is effort from volunteers to support everything. >> >> Where are there more details on serverion.com’s AOO mirror? > >I am not aware of anything else, I only recognize that a generous offer >has been made to us here, which can be of great benefit to us and which >we should therefore actively strive to realize. > > >greetings, >Jörg > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: New Mirror OpenOffice
Hello Dave, > -Original Message- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 8:12 PM > To: dev > Subject: Re: New Mirror OpenOffice > 9 years ago when the project joined it was decided that > OpenOffice was too heavy for the mirror system. Until > recently we had to let Infra know before we made a release in > order to make sure the network was not saturated with rsync requests. > > If you are interested here is the status of Apache mirrors. > https://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html > > The question to ask Infra is if it is time for OpenOffice to > be added to the Mirror System. Is the size still an issue? > > What would be the impact if mirrors could choose to add > OpenOffice at their discretion. That is a question for Apache Infra. I personally have no knowledge and no insight into the technical side. I only know that the download via Sourceforge is problematic for many users and that we do not offer an alternative. Even if this is only a single mirror, it would be a first step to create an alternative. > > We know exactly that we are almost completely dependent on > Sourceforge, because beyond Sourceforge we have only one > mirror (link I don't know at the moment) whose address is > only given in case of emergency and with the hint not to > spread the address too far so that the traffic doesn't get too high. > > I am more concerned about the Extensions and Templates sites > that are Drupal sites hosted by Source Forge. I know that there are problems there, but I myself capitulate to the lack of understanding of what is technically necessary and the (quasi) political will to solve certain things in a certain way. In my opinion it would be a good idea for the extensions to search for the best possible technical solution without preconditions and to implement it. This would be an interesting task, for which I am sure there would be volunteers. Is it worth to have a discussion about it? > > At OOo we had dozens of Mirrors in the past and why we do > not care if one is offered to us I do not understand. > > It is effort from volunteers to support everything. > > Where are there more details on serverion.com’s AOO mirror? I am not aware of anything else, I only recognize that a generous offer has been made to us here, which can be of great benefit to us and which we should therefore actively strive to realize. greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Fwd: New Mirror OpenOffice
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 8:12 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Fwd: New Mirror OpenOffice > > Am 08.10.20 um 19:53 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 7:28 PM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Fwd: New Mirror OpenOffice > >> > >> Am 07.10.20 um 10:25 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 12:31 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Moderator > Cc: Desmond van der Winden - Serverion > Subject: Re: Fwd: New Mirror OpenOffice > > Hi Desmond, > [...] > >>> > >>> do you think that we can somehow actively help Desmond to > >> get his server registered with Apache? > >> > >> managing the Apache mirror network is in the hands of > Apache. I think > >> it's up to the Infra team. > >> > >> We as project cannot help here. That's the reason why I > >> directed Desmond > >> to the linked webpage. > > > > It was important to me to at least offer my personal help > with something that I think is important. > > It may be that I find the technical things more difficult > than they are, just some personal support never seems wrong to me. > > > > By the way, I would like to make one more remark: > > why am I apparently the only one who thinks that such > technical contributions in kind should be appreciated > similarly to donations? Would it not be the task of our PMC > to discuss this question with the ASF? > > What I mean is that it would be motivating for > serverion.com, and possible future providers, if their > support would be publicly acknowledged. > > > > We know exactly that we are almost completely dependent on > Sourceforge, because beyond Sourceforge we have only one > mirror (link I don't know at the moment) whose address is > only given in case of emergency and with the hint not to > spread the address too far so that the traffic doesn't get too high. > > At OOo we had dozens of Mirrors in the past and why we do > not care if one is offered to us I do not understand. > > when you think it is important for us, then I suggest that > you step up > and get in contact with the ASF. OK > This topic is not tied to the PMC. Hopefully nobody has to understand that this is so? In other places the passing of the PMC is regularly viewed negatively. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
