Re: Templates Website Failure

2022-08-29 Thread Peter Kovacs



Am 30.08.22 um 00:26 schrieb Dave Fisher:



On Aug 29, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

On 29/08/22 Peter Kovacs wrote:

We have 3 servers. Maybe we can deploy the service there?

Technically this would be possible, sure

Yes, but do we want to support Drupal ourselves? It’s something like OpenGrok, 
Pootle, MediaWiki, and phpBB that will need periodic maintenance.


I talked about an email service so the drupal Website can sent passwort 
reset emails. Not the drupal site itself.



But I think these sites were moved to external hosting since the ASF had 
concerns, at the time, with the many different licenses used by the Extensions 
and Templates hosted on those sites.

Exactly

I don't know if things have changed now. Otherwise this would still be the main 
reason for hosting the two sites outside the ASF.

And still.


If everyone is touching this system with a 10 feet pole. I am not sure 
if the AOO extension service is in an healthy situation for the project 
. I mean there is still the FSF statement [1] on the net, which is not 
nice. The current situation is that Andrea is stepping up for the email 
service. I do not have the feeling that the extension page is much of an 
interest to SF.net. And it seems the ASF is also not particular fond of 
this system.


Should we maybe rethink the extension web service? Before volunteers can 
work what to do, we need to have a vision, and clearly make plans what 
to do.



All the best

Peter




Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Templates Website Failure

2022-08-29 Thread Dave Fisher



> On Aug 29, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> On 29/08/22 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> We have 3 servers. Maybe we can deploy the service there?
> 
> Technically this would be possible, sure

Yes, but do we want to support Drupal ourselves? It’s something like OpenGrok, 
Pootle, MediaWiki, and phpBB that will need periodic maintenance.

> 
> But I think these sites were moved to external hosting since the ASF had 
> concerns, at the time, with the many different licenses used by the 
> Extensions and Templates hosted on those sites.

Exactly

> 
> I don't know if things have changed now. Otherwise this would still be the 
> main reason for hosting the two sites outside the ASF.

And still.

> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: Templates Website Failure

2022-08-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/08/22 Peter Kovacs wrote:

We have 3 servers. Maybe we can deploy the service there?


Technically this would be possible, sure.

But I think these sites were moved to external hosting since the ASF had 
concerns, at the time, with the many different licenses used by the 
Extensions and Templates hosted on those sites.


I don't know if things have changed now. Otherwise this would still be 
the main reason for hosting the two sites outside the ASF.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Introduction

2022-08-29 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 28.08.22 um 20:36 schrieb Kyle Zemke:
> It will help me learn German, something I've always wanted to learn!

Good idea!

I would like to learn how to program. ;-)

>
> I'm in UTC -5 but I don't sleep as much as I should :)

I am in Germany, UTC +2

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kyle
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 5:43 PM Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kyle,
>>
>> Am 27.08.22 um 22:55 schrieb Kyle Zemke:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Sorry for not doing this sooner Mathias, I've been lurking. My name is
>>> Kyle, I joined the dev subscription about 3 weeks ago.
>> That's totally OK. I did that for a longer time, mainly because I am no
>> developer and learned a lot from "lurking".
>>> I have skills in Product Management, DevOps, and Programming.
>>>
>>> If there is anything I can help with please let me know. I'll try to keep
>>> up with the github repo 
>> I started with updating some graphics for the project. ;-)
>>
>> But since you know about programming, GitHub is a good place to start.
>>
>> Beware, there are still a lot of German comments in the source, if you
>> need help just ask here.
>>
>>> Looking forward to knowing you all better,
>> In which region are you located? We are spread all over the world and
>> reactions can take time due to the different time zones.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>



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Re: WebDAV module ported from serf to curl; curl using openssl and zlib

2022-08-29 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Hello Damjan, All,

I had a hard time restoring all the proper line breaks... this thread
is getting long! :-)

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 03:22:07AM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:54 PM Arrigo Marchiori 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Damjan, All,
> >
> > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 03:22:53PM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 11:48 AM Arrigo Marchiori
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Damjan,
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 11:12:45AM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:20 AM Arrigo Marchiori 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Damjan, all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:27:11PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 09:46:51PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello Damjan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 06:10:46PM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 2:43 PM Arrigo Marchiori 
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Damjan, all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:56:22PM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:57 PM Jim Jagielski 
> > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm gonna look into the serf->(lib)curl option... Since 
> > > > > > > > > > > > we don't use any
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the fancy features of serf, I'm thinking that the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > easy option might be
> > > > > > > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've ported our WebDAV content provider module from Serf 
> > > > > > > > > > > to Curl.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just enhanced the error reporting a bit; I am finding a 
> > > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > under Linux and I do not really know how to assess it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The problem: if we build AOO on CentOS (that is our 
> > > > > > > > > > reference
> > > > > > > > > > platform) then Curl will look for CA certificates in
> > > > > > > > > > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This will fail on openSUSE and probably on Ubuntu as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It seems that the above path is set at configure time and 
> > > > > > > > > > embedded
> > > > > > > > > > into Curl's code as #define macros.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there an ``official'' way to assess this? Like, can we 
> > > > > > > > > > depend on
> > > > > > > > > > NSS' certificate store as you wrote (quoted below)?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curl/OpenSSL have an enormous number of options and I am 
> > > > > > > > > pretty sure it can
> > > > > > > > > be fixed, but first I need to understand where and how it's 
> > > > > > > > > failing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We currently allow it to run with the default CA certificate 
> > > > > > > > > path, do
> > > > > > > > > pre-verification on the server's certificate using those CA 
> > > > > > > > > certificates,
> > > > > > > > > then call our SSL_VERIFY_PEER function where we override the 
> > > > > > > > > verification
> > > > > > > > > result with the certificates from NSS.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Apparently, it is failing before calling our SSL_VERIFY_PEER 
> > > > > > > > function.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If it's failing before reaching our SSL_VERIFY_PEER function, 
> > > > > > > > > we should be
> > > > > > > > > able to use Curl's CURLOPT_CAINFO or CURLOPT_CAINFO_BLOB 
> > > > > > > > > functions to set a
> > > > > > > > > custom CA certificate path (or in-memory buffer), maybe even 
> > > > > > > > > an empty
> > > > > > > > > buffer, so that it proceeds further. ("man CURLOPT_CAINFO", 
> > > > > > > > > "man
> > > > > > > > > CURLOPT_CAINFO_BLOB", or "man curl_easy_setopt" and read 
> > > > > > > > > under the "SSL and
> > > > > > > > > SECURITY OPTIONS" section.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So we would need to hard-code and try all possible paths to the 
> > > > > > > > CA
> > > > > > > > bundle on Unix systems?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With the CURLOPT_CAINFO_BLOB option it might even be possible 
> > > > > > > > > to skip the
> > > > > > > > > custom certificate verification we do later, and pre-populate 
> > > > > > > > > Curl/OpenSSL
> > > > > > > > > with NSS certificates from the beginning, I just don't know 
> > > > > > > > > enough about
> > > > > > > > > NSS to rely on that (eg. if you are using a cryptographic 
> > > > > > > > > device or smart
> > > > > > > > > card in NSS, how does that work?). If that option is ok, then 
> > > > > > 

Re: Templates Website Failure

2022-08-29 Thread Peter Kovacs

Hi Andrea,

We have 3 servers. Maybe we can deploy the service there?

Maybe best is because we get more and more services that we start to use 
containers.


What do you think?

all the best

Peter

Am 28.08.22 um 23:06 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 21/08/22 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
- Opened 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-23610 to 
ask INFRA how we can use an ASF-owned resource instead of my server


INFRA answered they won't help since they only cater for websites they 
maintain, while this one is externally hosted on SourceForge. I admit 
this is quite reasonable.


So: Extensions and Templates are now sending mail through my SMTP 
server; this works but it's not the best approach, and I remain 
available for replacing this with a more "shared" resource that can be 
used with username and password on port 587/STARTTLS. My earlier 
attempt with GMail failed so I would rule it out.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Introduction

2022-08-29 Thread Peter Kovacs

Welcome to the dev channel, :)


I think we need really to look at our 4.2.0 Issue list. [1]

I try to cluster some other Issues on Jira. [2] With the Idea that we 
may be able to cluster the work better. But it is quite Infant state.


We need also to talk on architecture. I do not feel comfortable with the 
code base as is. But I am not sure how I can address this.



I looking forward on your participation. I hope we can expand the 
Project further.



All the best

Peter

[1] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Blocker+issues+4.2.0


[2] 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENOFFICE/issues/OPENOFFICE-195?filter=allopenissues



Am 27.08.22 um 22:55 schrieb Kyle Zemke:

Hi All,

Sorry for not doing this sooner Mathias, I've been lurking. My name is
Kyle, I joined the dev subscription about 3 weeks ago.

I have skills in Product Management, DevOps, and Programming.

If there is anything I can help with please let me know. I'll try to keep
up with the github repo 

Looking forward to knowing you all better,

Kyle



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How to scale the Project

2022-08-29 Thread Peter Kovacs

Hi all,


I had on the weekend a philosophical talk with a friend of mine. One 
Claim ha did in this discussion has been that (for whatever Reasons) not 
a lot of people have the trait of initiative. Having initiative is a 
special trait.


Since we suffer from the Issue that there are people who would like to 
help, but not show any signs of Intiative, I thought we should maybe 
discuss how we could empower programmers to work on Issues.


My friend suggested in the discussion that maybe it could work out that 
volunteers with initiative write what is to do in a specific case.


And then we look for someone to do the task. This might be inefficient 
at first. But maybe we can get people to volunteer by this method.



What do you think?  Does anyone have experience from other Projects?

And how much needxs to be layed out in order other volunteers look into it?


Any thoughts?

All the best

Peter


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Re: OpenOffice icons

2022-08-29 Thread Bidouille
Hello,
This mailing list don't accept attached files.
Can you host these pictures on external website like CJoint.com?
And provide hyperlinks to see it.

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> De: "Xavier Verbrèghe" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Dimanche 28 Août 2022 17:05:32
> Objet: OpenOffice icons
> 
> Hello,
> I would like to propose new icons for Apache OpenOffice, how can I do
> it ?
> 
> Cordially
> Manjiro
> 

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