Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
All image directories and img links can be discovered and converted in an offline checkout of the site. It could be automated. Different image files of the same name can be diffed. It is all discoverable. Doing it manually is a mess. I discovered this during the ooo-site port from Oracle's Kenai which was actually a recent port from CollabraNet that was rather broken. The point is that OOo is a mess different project sites did different things. There are some beautiful yurts on the Mongolian site: http://www.openoffice.org/mn/ Regards, Dave On Apr 4, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 04/05/2013 12:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>> Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) > wrote: > >> Hi Rob, >> >> I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for >> images. >> >> Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to >>> "images/" >> and >> updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. >> >> Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? >>> If >> not what else has to be updated? >> >> > I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory > rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are > actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes > of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, > That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the >>> entire website. ;-) >>> >>> >>> Actually I don't think a single "images" directory for the whole site is >>> such a bad idea. We could subdivide it by area -- e.e. images/download. >>> Maybe worth discussing at some point? >>> >>> >> What advantage do you see to that? I could see that for common images that >> were essentially "global" this might make sense. But otherwise having >> images contained in the subtree that uses them gives more isolation, >> prevents name collisions, accidental side effects, etc. >> >> Of course from an information standpoint foo/bar and bar/foo are equally >> expressive. But I think we're more likely to copy, move, translate, etc., >> subsites as a whole, so having, e.g., /download be self-contained is a nice >> property. >> >> >>> be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for > Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding > the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the > image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such > posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of > those links. > You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to move such kind of files in the future. >>> >> >> I don't know this. I'm just suggesting that it is something we should >> check. We have over 7 million external links into www.openoffice.org. So >> it is hard to make any significant changes without breaking something. But >> that shouldn't prevent us from making improvements. But if we make any big >> changes we'll want to go back and see if any critical external sites need >> to be notified/updated. > > When I see this correct, then the files that you have checked-in into > "www.oo.org/download/images/" are not that old - much more recent than the > files in "www.oo.org/download/cachedimages/". IMHO not enough to get > wide-spreaded like other data on our website. > > Do you remember where you have used the image files? Then I (or you) could > change the links to the new files in "www.oo.org/images/". And any more > broken links can be changed then. > > So, can you help me with this? > > Thanks > > Marcus > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Am 04/05/2013 12:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not what else has to be updated? I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the entire website. ;-) Actually I don't think a single "images" directory for the whole site is such a bad idea. We could subdivide it by area -- e.e. images/download. Maybe worth discussing at some point? What advantage do you see to that? I could see that for common images that were essentially "global" this might make sense. But otherwise having images contained in the subtree that uses them gives more isolation, prevents name collisions, accidental side effects, etc. Of course from an information standpoint foo/bar and bar/foo are equally expressive. But I think we're more likely to copy, move, translate, etc., subsites as a whole, so having, e.g., /download be self-contained is a nice property. be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of those links. You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to move such kind of files in the future. I don't know this. I'm just suggesting that it is something we should check. We have over 7 million external links into www.openoffice.org. So it is hard to make any significant changes without breaking something. But that shouldn't prevent us from making improvements. But if we make any big changes we'll want to go back and see if any critical external sites need to be notified/updated. When I see this correct, then the files that you have checked-in into "www.oo.org/download/images/" are not that old - much more recent than the files in "www.oo.org/download/cachedimages/". IMHO not enough to get wide-spreaded like other data on our website. Do you remember where you have used the image files? Then I (or you) could change the links to the new files in "www.oo.org/images/". And any more broken links can be changed then. So, can you help me with this? Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > > > Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Rob, > >>> > >>> I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for > >>> images. > >>> > >>> Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to > "images/" > >>> and > >>> updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. > >>> > >>> Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? > If > >>> not what else has to be updated? > >>> > >>> > >> I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory > >> rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are > >> actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes > >> of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, > >> > > > > That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of > > the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. > > > > Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the > entire > > website. ;-) > > > Actually I don't think a single "images" directory for the whole site is > such a bad idea. We could subdivide it by area -- e.e. images/download. > Maybe worth discussing at some point? > > What advantage do you see to that? I could see that for common images that were essentially "global" this might make sense. But otherwise having images contained in the subtree that uses them gives more isolation, prevents name collisions, accidental side effects, etc. Of course from an information standpoint foo/bar and bar/foo are equally expressive. But I think we're more likely to copy, move, translate, etc., subsites as a whole, so having, e.g., /download be self-contained is a nice property. > > > > > be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for > >> Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding > >> the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the > >> image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such > >> posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of > >> those links. > >> > > > > You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to > > ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to > > move such kind of files in the future. > > > I don't know this. I'm just suggesting that it is something we should check. We have over 7 million external links into www.openoffice.org. So it is hard to make any significant changes without breaking something. But that shouldn't prevent us from making improvements. But if we make any big changes we'll want to go back and see if any critical external sites need to be notified/updated. -Rob > > > > Marcus > > > > > > --**--**- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org< > dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > > > MzK > > "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin." >
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Am 04/04/2013 11:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not what else has to be updated? I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the entire website. ;-) Actually I don't think a single "images" directory for the whole site is such a bad idea. We could subdivide it by area -- e.e. images/download. OK, maybe there are some reasons that prof that it makes sense. And my wording was not appropriate. However, actually we have some wide-spreaded image directories within the entire website. So, if we would consolidate all images into a single directory someone has to fix all the broken links that would then exist. I've just checked-out a handfull of sub-dirs and I've counted nearly 100 HTML files - and I've no NL websites checked or CSS files. Maybe worth discussing at some point? Sure, don't let me hold you back. :-) Marcus be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of those links. You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to move such kind of files in the future. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for >>> images. >>> >>> Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" >>> and >>> updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. >>> >>> Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If >>> not what else has to be updated? >>> >>> >> I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory >> rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are >> actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes >> of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, >> > > That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of > the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. > > Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the entire > website. ;-) Actually I don't think a single "images" directory for the whole site is such a bad idea. We could subdivide it by area -- e.e. images/download. Maybe worth discussing at some point? > > be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for >> Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding >> the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the >> image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such >> posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of >> those links. >> > > You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to > ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to > move such kind of files in the future. > > > Marcus > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- MzK "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin."
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Am 04/01/2013 03:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not what else has to be updated? I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, That's not what I want. Please read again. I just want to get rid of 1 of the 2 images directories in the "download/" sub-dir. Of course it doesn't make sense to have a single images dir for the entire website. ;-) be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of those links. You mean Twitter/Facebook/Google+ articles are referring to ".../download/images/*" files? That's bad, then we won't never be able to move such kind of files in the future. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Hi Rob, > > I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for > images. > > Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and > updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. > > Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If > not what else has to be updated? > I'm not sure I like the idea of having a global images directory rather than having images scoped to the subtree where they are actually used. Having a single global directory increases the changes of having accidental conflicts. But if you want to make this change, be sure to test each of the "Help spread the word" links for Twitter/Facebook/Google+ to make sure those applications are finding the right images. I don't mean the image on our page. I mean the image on the post once it is on Facebook, etc. Since hundreds of such posts have already been made, we probably don't want to break any of those links. -Rob > Thanks > > Marcus > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Am 03/31/2013 06:27 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: Hi Marcus, On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not what else has to be updated? The following pages still refer to download/images. David-Fishers-MacBook-Air:ooo-site dave$ find . -name "*.html" -exec grep -li download/images {} \; ./trunk/content/ja/download/3.2.0/index.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/3.2.0/index_test.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/index.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/index_testing.html ./trunk/content/promotions/dfd.html ./trunk/content/sk/download/index.html ./trunk/content/zh-cn/download/index.html Thank for your search. I've updated these webpages, too. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Hi Marcus, On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Hi Rob, > > I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. > > Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and > updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. > > Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not > what else has to be updated? The following pages still refer to download/images. David-Fishers-MacBook-Air:ooo-site dave$ find . -name "*.html" -exec grep -li download/images {} \; ./trunk/content/ja/download/3.2.0/index.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/3.2.0/index_test.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/index.html ./trunk/content/ja/download/index_testing.html ./trunk/content/promotions/dfd.html ./trunk/content/sk/download/index.html ./trunk/content/zh-cn/download/index.html Regards, Dave > > Thanks > > Marcus > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[Website] Re-locate images from "download/images/" to "images/"
Hi Rob, I want to cleanup the structure and remove 1 of the 2 directories for images. Therefore I've added the images from "download/images" also to "images/" and updated the "download/index.html" to point to the new location. Please tell me, is it save to remove the "download/images/" directory? If not what else has to be updated? Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org