Re: Board report April: infrastructure wishlist
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > The periodic report to the Apache Board about the status of the OpenOffice > project and community is due in about one month. You can find an initial > draft of the April report at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr > but it is almost completely empty and not worth reading yet. > > Remember that we have rarely used it this way so far, but the Board report > is also an occasion to officially notify the Apache Board about our needs: > the Board can decide how to allocate resources, but they need our input for > that. > > Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, > buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the > report to make a sort of "Infrastructure wishlist". The aim is to avoid > annoying the Infrastructure staff and volunteers with requests; we should > tell the Board what our priorities are, so that they can use these > priorities in allocating resources. > But we should make sure we understand which items are truly an infra resource issue versus which ones are blocked for other reasons. For example, the issue with signing certificates is not because of the cost of a certificate. It is blocked because we have not come up with an acceptable process for handling and applying the code signing in a way that satisfies Infra's security concerns. I thought it was clear that the first step to resolve this was to have our binary distributions built completely on the buildbots, in their final form, including all languages. Once that is done then we could discuss more about how to add code signing. -Rob > So, feel free to discuss the "Infrastructure wishlist" here and I will then > include it in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr > for consideration by the Apache Board (we will probably ask Infra to take a > look too before sending). > > Regards, > Andrea. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Board report April: infrastructure wishlist
On 3/10/13 8:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Juergen Schmidt wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 10. März 2013 um 00:39 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>> Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, >>> buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the >>> report to make a sort of "Infrastructure wishlist". ... >> how about the suggestion to buy a code signing certificate > > Good idea. Let's really try to make a simple list of "What" and "Why". > This should be considered as a wishlist and not a list of actions we > demand: we tell the Board what could help in making our project more > efficient (and we will likely ask Infra to comment on the list before we > send it); the Board, while allocating resources, can use these > suggestions (discussions about what budget to use may or may not be > relevant, but a list of priorities would be fine for the time being). > > So: > > What: Buy a code signing certificate > Why [please check!]: This would allow the project to digitally sign the > convenience binaries it ships, and avoid Windows and Mac OS X warnings > about unsigned installers. The MacOSX part is not yet finally evaluated but we need either a valid certificate and/or a Apple developer ID. The process itself has to be evaluated. > > What: Acquire a *.openoffice.org certificate > Why: This would allow to avoid false alarms when enforcing HTTPS to > browse OpenOffice sites, and give the possibility of secure login to > wiki.openoffice.org and forum.openoffice.org > > What: Allocate budget for additional domains > Why: This would help in transferring legacy domains to Apache, see > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906 > > What: Officially support MWiki [remember this is a wishlist!] > Why: wiki.openoffice.org is an important service to our users, with over > 15K [right?] pages and many [how many?] users. And we don't want to put > an additional burden on Infra without getting additional resources for it. > > What: Officially support phpBB > Why: forum.openoffice.org is an important service to our users, with > [numbers?]. And we don't want to put an additional burden on Infra > without getting additional resources for it. > > Anything else? Buildbots, Pootle? Pootle: the hardware should be sufficient to work with the server and we should have enough disk space for ~ 3 OpenOffice related projects. I am thinking here about stable long term product lines that potentially get more translations later or important fixes or changes. Juergen > > Regards, > Andrea. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Board report April: infrastructure wishlist
Juergen Schmidt wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. März 2013 um 00:39 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the report to make a sort of "Infrastructure wishlist". ... how about the suggestion to buy a code signing certificate Good idea. Let's really try to make a simple list of "What" and "Why". This should be considered as a wishlist and not a list of actions we demand: we tell the Board what could help in making our project more efficient (and we will likely ask Infra to comment on the list before we send it); the Board, while allocating resources, can use these suggestions (discussions about what budget to use may or may not be relevant, but a list of priorities would be fine for the time being). So: What: Buy a code signing certificate Why [please check!]: This would allow the project to digitally sign the convenience binaries it ships, and avoid Windows and Mac OS X warnings about unsigned installers. What: Acquire a *.openoffice.org certificate Why: This would allow to avoid false alarms when enforcing HTTPS to browse OpenOffice sites, and give the possibility of secure login to wiki.openoffice.org and forum.openoffice.org What: Allocate budget for additional domains Why: This would help in transferring legacy domains to Apache, see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906 What: Officially support MWiki [remember this is a wishlist!] Why: wiki.openoffice.org is an important service to our users, with over 15K [right?] pages and many [how many?] users. And we don't want to put an additional burden on Infra without getting additional resources for it. What: Officially support phpBB Why: forum.openoffice.org is an important service to our users, with [numbers?]. And we don't want to put an additional burden on Infra without getting additional resources for it. Anything else? Buildbots, Pootle? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Board report April: infrastructure wishlist
Am Sonntag, 10. März 2013 um 00:39 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > The periodic report to the Apache Board about the status of the > OpenOffice project and community is due in about one month. You can find > an initial draft of the April report at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr > but it is almost completely empty and not worth reading yet. > > Remember that we have rarely used it this way so far, but the Board > report is also an occasion to officially notify the Apache Board about > our needs: the Board can decide how to allocate resources, but they need > our input for that. > > Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, > buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the > report to make a sort of "Infrastructure wishlist". The aim is to avoid > annoying the Infrastructure staff and volunteers with requests; we > should tell the Board what our priorities are, so that they can use > these priorities in allocating resources. > > So, feel free to discuss the "Infrastructure wishlist" here and I will > then include it in > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr for > consideration by the Apache Board (we will probably ask Infra to take a > look too before sending). > > how about the suggestion to buy a code signing certificate (they are typical valid for 2 years) from our still existing budget to bridge the time until we have ASF wide working and established signing process. My guessing is that it will take longer to agree on a general approach. But I will try to restart the discussion again... Juergen > > Regards, > Andrea. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Board report April: infrastructure wishlist
The periodic report to the Apache Board about the status of the OpenOffice project and community is due in about one month. You can find an initial draft of the April report at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr but it is almost completely empty and not worth reading yet. Remember that we have rarely used it this way so far, but the Board report is also an occasion to officially notify the Apache Board about our needs: the Board can decide how to allocate resources, but they need our input for that. Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the report to make a sort of "Infrastructure wishlist". The aim is to avoid annoying the Infrastructure staff and volunteers with requests; we should tell the Board what our priorities are, so that they can use these priorities in allocating resources. So, feel free to discuss the "Infrastructure wishlist" here and I will then include it in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr for consideration by the Apache Board (we will probably ask Infra to take a look too before sending). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
