Default size on Linux
Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. Best regards, Andre [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Default size on Linux
Hi Andre, +1 Armin On 09.07.2013 16:57, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. Best regards, Andre [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- ALG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Default size on Linux
On 7/9/13 4:57 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. +1, I remember we have discussed this several times and always postponed it because of other things. Easy fix with a huge improvement and an improved first start experience Juergen Best regards, Andre [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Default size on Linux
On 09.07.2013 17:00, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Andre, +1 Armin On 09.07.2013 16:57, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. Issue number is 122709 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122709) I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. Best regards, Andre [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- ALG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Default size on Linux
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. Best regards, Andre [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-800-600-h-**25.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-800-600-h-**50.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-800-600-h-**100.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1024-768-**h-25.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1024-768-**h-50.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1024-768-** h-100.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1280-1024-** h-25.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1280-1024-** h-50.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1280-1024-** h-100.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1680-1050-** h-25.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1680-1050-** h-50.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1680-1050-** h-100.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1920-1200-** 25-h.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1920-1200-** 50-h.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/**images/scale/writer-1920-1200-** h-100.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org +1, seems fine -- - MzK Every day we should hear at least one little song, read one good poem, see one exquisite picture, and, if possible, speak a few sensible words. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Re: Default size on Linux
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/9/13 4:57 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: +1, I remember we have discussed this several times and always postponed it because of other things. Easy fix with a huge improvement and an improved first start experience I agree too, I remember that I had to maximize/enlarge the window several times... Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Default size on Linux
Am 07/09/2013 05:03 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 7/9/13 4:57 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I would like to propose another small enhancement: a change of the default size of application windows on Linux. In some cases--Writer, start center, Math, Base--the application window is almost square by default (for Calc, Impress and Draw it is fullscreen). This does not work well with the new sidebar, which was designed with widescreen displays in mind. I would like to change that to what is used on Mac, use 80% of width and height of the screen, on which the application starts.For screen widths of 1024 and below I would still use the current values (therefore you will see no differences in the 1024x768 and 800x600 screen shots.) As this sizing scheme is already in use on the Mac platform it is tried and accepted (at least I know of no complaints). The default fullscreen mode for Calc, Impress and Draw would not be changed. Here are some comparisons for the current state (left side) and the proposed sizes (right side). To speed up download I have provided smaller versions (25% and 50%) along with the original sizes: 800x 600 25% [1], 50% [2], 100% [3] 1024x 768 25% [4], 50% [5], 100% [6] 1280x1024 25% [7], 50% [8], 100% [9] 1680x1050 25% [10], 50% [11], 100% [12] 1920x1200 25% [13], 50% [14], 100% [15] The change is rather small and restricted to Linux (the GTK module) and should have low risk of introducing regressions. +1, I remember we have discussed this several times and always postponed it because of other things. Easy fix with a huge improvement and an improved first start experience yes, sounds good, +1. Marcus [1] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-25.png [2] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-50.png [3] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-800-600-h-100.png [4] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-25.png [5] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-50.png [6] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1024-768-h-100.png [7] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-25.png [8] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-50.png [9] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1280-1024-h-100.png [10] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-25.png [11] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-50.png [12] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1680-1050-h-100.png [13] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-25-h.png [14] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-50-h.png [15] http://people.apache.org/~af/images/scale/writer-1920-1200-h-100.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
