Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 03/09/2016 Roberto Galoppini wrote:

If a bunch of us is willing to go I might join the party.


The "bunch" is still small and the deadline for submissions is tomorrow. 
Anyone else from Europe interested in attending?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hi Andrea;


Pedro Giffuni wrote:

I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU


Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it
fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on reviewers)
OpenOffice track or not?



It is about random number generation, based on the OpenOffice 
implementation (and I may find time for some further improvements

in the following weeks).

I think I may give another one on a different subject as well, but this 
one would be unrelated to AOO.


Pedro.

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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Sep 3, 2016 7:46 PM, "Andrea Pescetti"  wrote:
>
> Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>> I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU
>
>
> Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it
fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on reviewers)
OpenOffice track or not?

If a bunch of us is willing to go I might join the party.

Roberto

> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Pedro Giffuni wrote:

I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU


Ah, nice! An OpenOffice-specific talk or a generic one? I mean, would it 
fit into a (hypothetical, of course; everything depends on reviewers) 
OpenOffice track or not?


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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni

> Hello guys;
>
> Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a
> talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a
> conference!).
>
> I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I
> don't really believe any form of boycott will serve the purpose of
> strengthening OpenOffice within the Apache Software Foundation. The best
> way to show support for the project is to engage with the wider ASF
> community, meet member of the Board and tell them that Apache OpenOffice
> is important. What the heck ... if we can't convince them ... get them
> drunk ;).
>
> I hereby suggest, and it's the easiest way to "save" the project AFAICT,
> that we release Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 *during* ApacheConEU 2016.
>
> Just IMHO, with the latest updates (thanks truckman for the help) I
> think we are in pretty good shape for a Release; we could start making
> Release Candidates really soon now and make it so that we release the
> new version on November 16. Maybe it's a tight schedule but I also think
> we have been adding a lot of red tape to the process of making a
> release, which in theory is just a vote.

According to ASF release approval policy,
http://www.apache.org/dev/release#approving-a-release, "Before voting +1
PMC members are required to download the signed source code package,
compile it as provided, and test the resulting executable on their own
platform, along with also verifying that the package meets the
requirements of the ASF policy on releases."

That takes a bit more effort than "just a vote".


The requirement is obvious. I am not a PMC member but I run the openoffice
development version in my desktop. I would expect someone in the PMC should
be doing the same.

We usually go beyond that for AOO, so the process takes months.



To some extent, it may conflict with ApacheConEU attendance, because
that will take PMC members away from their own platforms. Ideally, we
need to get the voting process done before those attending leave home.

Even though there is some publicity advantage to announcing at the
event, I would rather get the release out ASAP.


Well, before the event is fine, ASAP works for me as long as it is 
before the event(?).


Pedro.


RE: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am in the same position as Patricia and will not be traveling to European 
conferences.

> -Original Message-
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 04:21
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November
> 
> 
> On 9/3/2016 2:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> ...
> > The latter option (not going) of course does not require anything, but
> > I'd still prefer to get an "I'm not coming" note especially from
> > Europe-based PMC members.
> ...
> 
> I would prefer to see at least one PMC member attend, and give a talk.
> If a group can do so, all the better.
> 
> I do not personally plan to attend, because of the time and energy it
> would take to get there, and back, from the west coast of the USA.
> 
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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 9/3/2016 7:10 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hello guys;

Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a
talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a
conference!).

I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I
don't really believe any form of boycott will serve the purpose of
strengthening OpenOffice within the Apache Software Foundation. The best
way to show support for the project is to engage with the wider ASF
community, meet member of the Board and tell them that Apache OpenOffice
is important. What the heck ... if we can't convince them ... get them
drunk ;).

I hereby suggest, and it's the easiest way to "save" the project AFAICT,
that we release Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 *during* ApacheConEU 2016.

Just IMHO, with the latest updates (thanks truckman for the help) I
think we are in pretty good shape for a Release; we could start making
Release Candidates really soon now and make it so that we release the
new version on November 16. Maybe it's a tight schedule but I also think
we have been adding a lot of red tape to the process of making a
release, which in theory is just a vote.


According to ASF release approval policy,
http://www.apache.org/dev/release#approving-a-release, "Before voting +1
PMC members are required to download the signed source code package,
compile it as provided, and test the resulting executable on their own
platform, along with also verifying that the package meets the
requirements of the ASF policy on releases."

That takes a bit more effort than "just a vote".

To some extent, it may conflict with ApacheConEU attendance, because
that will take PMC members away from their own platforms. Ideally, we
need to get the voting process done before those attending leave home.

Even though there is some publicity advantage to announcing at the
event, I would rather get the release out ASAP.

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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello guys;

Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a 
talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a 
conference!).


I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I 
don't really believe any form of boycott will serve the purpose of 
strengthening OpenOffice within the Apache Software Foundation. The best 
way to show support for the project is to engage with the wider ASF 
community, meet member of the Board and tell them that Apache OpenOffice 
is important. What the heck ... if we can't convince them ... get them 
drunk ;).


I hereby suggest, and it's the easiest way to "save" the project AFAICT, 
that we release Apache OpenOffice 4.2.0 *during* ApacheConEU 2016.


Just IMHO, with the latest updates (thanks truckman for the help) I 
think we are in pretty good shape for a Release; we could start making 
Release Candidates really soon now and make it so that we release the 
new version on November 16. Maybe it's a tight schedule but I also think 
we have been adding a lot of red tape to the process of making a 
release, which in theory is just a vote.


Pedro.


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Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 9/3/2016 2:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
...

The latter option (not going) of course does not require anything, but
I'd still prefer to get an "I'm not coming" note especially from
Europe-based PMC members.

...

I would prefer to see at least one PMC member attend, and give a talk.
If a group can do so, all the better.

I do not personally plan to attend, because of the time and energy it
would take to get there, and back, from the west coast of the USA.

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