Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 13/01/2021 Carl Marcum wrote:

On 1/10/21 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the 
former Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.

Maybe these?
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/


Indeed, thanks! To be precise, the first link on that page leads you to
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/ManualTesting/
which is the "dump of former Testlink cases" I referred to. So it's not 
on the Wiki; it is on the main website.


I notice that some like
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/ManualTesting/AOOTest-107_PureText-Character_Color.html
have a notice saying "Execution Type: Automated" and there is a filename 
for an "Automation script" in Java but I doubt this has anything to do 
with the automated tests you refer to. I honestly have no idea where the 
Java files can be.


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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

I know. I have time tomorrow morning :(
Probably the folder has wrong rights. 

Am 15. Januar 2021 18:41:23 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Peter,
>
>Am 13.01.21 um 23:53 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>
>> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,


 @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
>>> I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
>> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back
>> tomorrow.
>
>Thanks, but I still have only AOO418 (and trunk and AOO42X) to choose
>at:
>
>http://opengrok.openoffice.org/
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Peter,

Am 13.01.21 um 23:53 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>
> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>
>> On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>
>>> @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
>> I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back
> tomorrow.

Thanks, but I still have only AOO418 (and trunk and AOO42X) to choose at:

http://opengrok.openoffice.org/

Regards,

   Matthias




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Marcus]

I don't understand what you want to tell us.

Do you have a problem to understand what this mail thread means?

Thanks

Marcus



Am 14.01.21 um 00:13 schrieb Leonard Fogli:

?

El mié., 13 de enero de 2021 4:53 p. m., Peter Kovacs 
escribió:



On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:


On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.

I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Leonard Fogli]

?

El mié., 13 de enero de 2021 4:53 p. m., Peter Kovacs 
escribió:

>
> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >
> > On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >>
> >> @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
> > I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:


On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.

I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Carl Marcum]

On 1/10/21 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.


Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev 
build or a release candidate.


A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for 
can be found here (and these apply to all builds):


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases 



and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the 
former Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.

Maybe these?
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/



A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the 
source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process 
focuses mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.


Details about voting on a RC:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html

An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but 
other people run different tests):

https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests


There are also automated tests you can run against a build.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/test_automation_guide

I don't use the eclipse instructions and the Ant command line way is at 
the end.


I've been trying to clean these up and it's work in progress.
The BVT test for trunk are in pretty good shape. All 80 pass for me now.
Some in 4.1 are still flaky though. pass/fail intermittently.
Threading/Processor speeds are my theory.
I'm working on cherry picking a lot of test fixes from trunk to 4.1 but 
they're not ready yet.
There was a lot of API changes included that I don't think we should 
backport.

Anyway it won't matter after 4.2 anyway :)

Best regards,
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 12.01.21 um 02:25 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 1/3/2021 7:25 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Attached is the 419 QA Verification Report
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
Thanks for the report!

@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

Regards,

   Matthias




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/3/2021 7:25 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> .
> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>> testing it there as sell
> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>
> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> only two persons...
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
 Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
 I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
 point it to the standard profile
> 
> After changing bootstrap.ini all problems initially reported are gone.
> Attached is my updated QA report.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
Attached is the 419 QA Verification Report

Regards
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello Andrea,

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:09:00PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> > Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> 
> Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev build or
> a release candidate.
> 
> A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for can be
> found here (and these apply to all builds):
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases
> 
> and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the former
> Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.
> 
> A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the
> source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process focuses
> mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.
> 
> Details about voting on a RC:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html
> 
> An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but other
> people run different tests):
> https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests

Thank you very much!
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.


Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev 
build or a release candidate.


A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for can 
be found here (and these apply to all builds):


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases

and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the former 
Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.


A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the 
source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process 
focuses mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.


Details about voting on a RC:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html

An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but 
other people run different tests):

https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests

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  Andrea.

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Jim Jagielski]

This seems like a safe and non-controversial fix to me...

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:03:19AM -0800, Don Lewis wrote:
> 
>> On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  
 wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 
 - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
 
 Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
 4.1.9?
 
>>> 
>>> AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
>>> don't
>>> think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO
>> 
>> Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
>> test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
>> 4.1.9.
> 
> In the hope it can be useful, please see here:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/116 
> 
> 
> Apparently, Linux crashes because certain stacks are pop()-ed without
> ever being push()-ed before.
> 
> My personal theory is that Windows's standard library may add some
> implicit checks, and for this reason Windows builds do not seem to
> crash.
> 
> The PR addresses the ``symptoms'' of a wrong parsing. The parsing
> itself should be fixed, but maybe this ``quick'' fix is ok for a
> minor release, if it avoids a blatant crash?
> 
> I hope it can be useful. It applies to trunk and AOO419 so it should
> be easily integrated ``at the last minute'' if we found it's worth it.
> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
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> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello,

On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:03:19AM -0800, Don Lewis wrote:

> On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello All,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
> >> 
> >> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
> >> 4.1.9?
> >> 
> > 
> > AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
> > don't
> > think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO
> 
> Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
> test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
> 4.1.9.

In the hope it can be useful, please see here:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/116

Apparently, Linux crashes because certain stacks are pop()-ed without
ever being push()-ed before.

My personal theory is that Windows's standard library may add some
implicit checks, and for this reason Windows builds do not seem to
crash.

The PR addresses the ``symptoms'' of a wrong parsing. The parsing
itself should be fixed, but maybe this ``quick'' fix is ok for a
minor release, if it avoids a blatant crash?

I hope it can be useful. It applies to trunk and AOO419 so it should
be easily integrated ``at the last minute'' if we found it's worth it.

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Don Lewis]

On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> 
>> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
>> 
>> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
>> 4.1.9?
>> 
> 
> AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
> don't
> think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
> 
> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
> 4.1.9?
> 

AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
don't
think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:21:47PM -0500, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

> On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>>
>  On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Jim,
> 
>  Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>  I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
>  https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>  
> >>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> >>
> >> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> > 
> > I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> > the problem.
> > 
> > I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> > 
> >> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> > 
> > I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> > Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > References:
> > 
> > 1: 
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> > 
> Arrigio;
> 
> There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
> dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
> used.

I tried to look into it... and it's really too much for me at the
moment. I am sorry. If you have any ready-made checklist I will be
happy to go through it, but I could not make much sense out of the QA
section at the moment...

...except for the idea of verifying the bugs "changed after" the
release date. I used the date for 4.1.7 and I found this:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127952

The fun (?) fact is that:

 - the AOO 4.1.9 build for Windows by Matthias can open the file;

 - Jim's RPM builds for Linux _crash_ while opening that file;

 - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.

Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
4.1.9?

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Leonard Fogli]

Estoy de acuerdo

El mar., 5 de enero de 2021 6:29 a. m., Jim Jagielski 
escribió:

> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>
> > On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > The AOO419 branch has been created.
> > The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> > The Release Status page has been cloned:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>>
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> 
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
> 
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> 
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> 
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> References:
> 
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> 
Arrigio;

There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
used.

Regards
Keith




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 7:29 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 

It appears that we are ready and should go ahead and plan for next week.
regards
Keith

>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Arrigo,

Am 05.01.21 um 18:46 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
> Hello All,
>
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
>
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
>
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

I don't know if we have any procedures, but you can always download,
install and test the build against regressions...

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Best regards.
>
> References:
>
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E



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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> >> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> >>
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> >> 
> > This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> 
> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
the problem.

I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.

> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

Best regards.

References:

1: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>> 
> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

>
>> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?
> I think we all agreed to revert.

OK, then I will go ahead.

Matthias

>
>> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
 On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 
> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> 

This was handled by making fakeroot required:


https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

> 
> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?

I think we all agreed to revert.

> 
> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Marcus]

Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Should we try for a RC1 early next week?


comment #9 is very promising:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128415

Then it's time to finish and publish the blog post and make it more public.

Marcus




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The Release Status page has been cloned: 
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Leonard Fogli]

Emuybien. Exelete

El sáb., 2 de enero de 2021 2:00 p. m., Dave Fisher 
escribió:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Keith,
> >>
> >>> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> >>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>  Hi Keith,
> 
>  Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
> 
>  Clipboard works as expected for me.
> 
>  Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup
> /a"
> >>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
> >>> folder.
> >> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> >> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>  I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows
> 10.
> >>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> >>> testing it there as sell
> >>
> >> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> >> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
> >>
> >> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> >> only two persons...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >>>
> > Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
> > I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
> > point it to the standard profile
>
> Could it be because this is a Developer Build?
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> >>> Regards
> >>> Keith
> >>>
>  Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
>  Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> > On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> >>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> >>> The Release Status page has been cloned:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> >> First test builds for Windows are available at:
> >>
> >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> > would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have
> been
> > experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
> >
> > Regards
> > Keith
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

.
 That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
 you use the wrong AOO profile.
>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> testing it there as sell
 I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.

 @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
 only two persons...

 Regards,

Matthias

>>> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
>>> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
>>> point it to the standard profile

After changing bootstrap.ini all problems initially reported are gone.
Attached is my updated QA report.

Regards
Keith


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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 02.01.21 um 21:00 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
 Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>
> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>
> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
 No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
 folder.
>>> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
>>> you use the wrong AOO profile.
> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
 Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
 testing it there as sell
>>> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
>>> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>>>
>>> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
>>> only two persons...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
>> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
>> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
>> point it to the standard profile
> Could it be because this is a Developer Build?

The Windows builds are *not* Developer Builds.

Dev Builds have enough problems of their own, so I am building close to
the release builds, only branding them as "Developer Test Builds".

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
 Regards
 Keith

> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
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>>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>>> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Keith,
 
 Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
 
 Clipboard works as expected for me.
 
 Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
>>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
>>> folder.
>> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
>> you use the wrong AOO profile.
 I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>>> testing it there as sell
>> 
>> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
>> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>> 
>> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
>> only two persons...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> 
> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
> point it to the standard profile

Could it be because this is a Developer Build?

Regards,
Dave

> 
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>> 
 Regards,
 
Matthias
 
 Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>> 
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
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>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>>>
>>> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
>> folder.
> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>> testing it there as sell
> 
> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
> 
> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> only two persons...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
>>
Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
point it to the standard profile

>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
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>>
> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
 would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
 experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.

 Regards
 Keith
>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Keith,

Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>>
>> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>>
>> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
> folder.
That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
you use the wrong AOO profile.
>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> testing it there as sell

I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.

@all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
only two persons...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi all,

 Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
 First test builds for Windows are available at:

 https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

 Regards,

    Matthias

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 Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
>>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
> 
> Clipboard works as expected for me.
> 
> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 

No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
folder.
> 
> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.

Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
testing it there as sell

Regards
Keith

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
>>>
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>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
> 




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[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Keith,

Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.

Clipboard works as expected for me.

Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" ?

I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
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>>>
>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>
> Regards
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> 
> First test builds for Windows are available at:
> 
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
>> -
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>>
> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Marcus]

Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

The AOO419 branch has been created.
The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
The Release Status page has been cloned: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9


thanks a lot for making this effort - and to wear the release manager 
hat one more time. :-)


Marcus


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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi all,

Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9

First test builds for Windows are available at:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

Regards,

   Matthias

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