Re: Review Board
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI wrote: > > On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher > wrote: > >> > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. > >> > > >> > >> I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with > >> patch contributions from contributors. > >> > > > > Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion > the > > mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate > > matters. > > > > That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new > volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss > their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was > well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with > no distracting complications, would be preferred. > > -Rob > >From my perspective, I think we deal with patches to the mailing list, with our preferred [PATCH] tag, or not, pretty well. From BZ, maybe no so much. I would guess that historically, members of the head of a specific OpenOffice project were copied on bugs for that area, e.g. "math" or "gsl" etc. I'm looking at our current bug categories. Right now, all the issues changes go to iss...@apache.openoffice.org. What would be good is an easy way for volunteer developers to add themselves to the CC list for a whole group of bugs based on category/component. This would somewhat mimic the oversight that had been in place in the past. So, do we have a way to do a bulk CC add for a group of issues? I took a quick look just now and nothing emerged. This wouldn't guarantee that patches wouldn't fall through the cracks but might help with the situation. Thoughts? > > rgds > > Jan I. > > > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >> > Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. > >> > > >> > On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> > > >> >> https://reviews.apache.org > >> >> > >> >> I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? > >> >> > >> >> -Rob > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- MzK "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin."
Re: Review Board
On 10 March 2013 10:51, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 08/03/2013 Rob Weir wrote: > >> That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new >> volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss >> their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was >> well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with >> no distracting complications, would be preferred. >> > > Maybe. But I would leave the decision to those who are actually handling > patches. And, unless they prefer new tools, I would continue to store > patches in Bugzilla and avoid yet another system, yet another registration > for new volunteers, yet another workflow to learn. > +1 > > Regards, > Andrea. > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: Review Board
On 08/03/2013 Rob Weir wrote: That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with no distracting complications, would be preferred. Maybe. But I would leave the decision to those who are actually handling patches. And, unless they prefer new tools, I would continue to store patches in Bugzilla and avoid yet another system, yet another registration for new volunteers, yet another workflow to learn. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review Board
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 15:35:31 -0800: > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI wrote: > >> On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. > > >>> > >>> I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with > >>> patch contributions from contributors. > >>> > >> > >> Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion the > >> mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate > >> matters. > >> > > > > That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new > > volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss > > their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was > > well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with > > no distracting complications, would be preferred. > > If there are volunteers who will do RTC work for new code contributors > then this might be an improvement to bug tracking. FWIW, over at Subversion we (a) have a 'patch' label in the bug tracker, (b) have a volunteer who pings [patch] threads that have petered out without the patch being either applie or rejected. http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/roles#patch-manager Perhaps one or both of these ideas would be useful here. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review Board
On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI wrote: >> On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. >>> >>> I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with >>> patch contributions from contributors. >>> >> >> Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion the >> mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate >> matters. >> > > That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new > volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss > their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was > well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with > no distracting complications, would be preferred. If there are volunteers who will do RTC work for new code contributors then this might be an improvement to bug tracking. Regards, Dave > > -Rob > >> rgds >> Jan I. >> >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > https://reviews.apache.org > > I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? > > -Rob > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review Board
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI wrote: > On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. >> > >> >> I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with >> patch contributions from contributors. >> > > Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion the > mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate > matters. > That's exactly the issue. The mailing list is so busy that new volunteers get lost, and their patches as well. And if they toss their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was well. So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with no distracting complications, would be preferred. -Rob > rgds > Jan I. > >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. >> > >> > On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> > >> >> https://reviews.apache.org >> >> >> >> I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review Board
On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. > > > > I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with > patch contributions from contributors. > Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion the mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate matters. rgds Jan I. > > -Rob > > > > Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. > > > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> https://reviews.apache.org > >> > >> I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: Review Board
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. > I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with patch contributions from contributors. -Rob > Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> https://reviews.apache.org >> >> I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? >> >> -Rob >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Review Board
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. > > Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. > I agree with Dave on this. I don't see a particular need. But, interesting, none the less. > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > https://reviews.apache.org > > > > I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? > > > > -Rob > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- MzK "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin."
Re: Review Board
Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > https://reviews.apache.org > > I didn't know that this existed at Apache. Should we be using it? > > -Rob > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
