Re: Unused patches
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Bielefeld rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Hi all, we have lots of bug reports with unused patches. I think patches should be checked as soon as possible and be integrated as soon as possible. Example: I found 31 Bugs with unused patches by Kohei Yoshida - I think we can't get progress in Calc any cheaper. And also the other Bugs with unused patches should be checked ... We would probably want to confirm with the original author for any pre-Apache patches, to make sure that the patch is given under ALv2. The exception might be those who were Sun/Oracle/IBM employees at the time. BTW, I haven't a clue how to use custom search Attachment is a Patch. Can someone tell me? Attachment is a Patch is equal to 1 -Rob Best regards Rainer Hyperlinks [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDf1=attachments.submitterf2=attachments.ispatchlist_id=112364o1=equalsquery_format=advancedv1=kyoshida%40novell.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unused patches
On 22 December 2013 21:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Bielefeld rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Hi all, we have lots of bug reports with unused patches. I think patches should be checked as soon as possible and be integrated as soon as possible. Example: I found 31 Bugs with unused patches by Kohei Yoshida - I think we can't get progress in Calc any cheaper. And also the other Bugs with unused patches should be checked ... We would probably want to confirm with the original author for any pre-Apache patches, to make sure that the patch is given under ALv2. The exception might be those who were Sun/Oracle/IBM employees at the time. How about we do it the other way round, we sent a mail the the authors stating we assume the accept alv2 unless we hear from them within x days ? rgds jan I. BTW, I haven't a clue how to use custom search Attachment is a Patch. Can someone tell me? Attachment is a Patch is equal to 1 -Rob Best regards Rainer Hyperlinks [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDf1=attachments.submitterf2=attachments.ispatchlist_id=112364o1=equalsquery_format=advancedv1=kyoshida%40novell.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unused patches
On 22 December 2013 21:12, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 22 December 2013 21:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We would probably want to confirm with the original author for any pre-Apache patches, to make sure that the patch is given under ALv2. The exception might be those who were Sun/Oracle/IBM employees at the time. How about we do it the other way round, we sent a mail the the authors stating we assume the accept alv2 unless we hear from them within x days ? Because as well as being profoundly rude, that would be a copyright violation unless you are absolutely sure that (a) every contributor signed a Sun or Oracle CLA (b) that the patch was accepted under said CLA (does putting a patch in Bugzilla count as a contribution if it wasn't accepted?) (c) that copyright on all said patches was covered by the Oracle grant (as, e.g., the CWSes may not be). - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unused patches
Rob Weir wrote: We would probably want to confirm with the original author for any pre-Apache patches, to make sure that the patch is given under ALv2. The exception might be those who were Sun/Oracle/IBM employees at the time. Could we try to have a clearer picture here, limited to patches that are attached to Bugzilla issues? Patches by then-Sun/Oracle employees belong to Sun/Oracle, but they haven't necessarily been explicitly granted to Apache. Or do we have permission to use all patches by Sun and Oracle employees in Bugzilla? I remember this was discussed but I can't find a conclusive answer. Patches by then-IBM employees, as far as I know, have not been granted to Apache by IBM. And there's the group of people who signed a copyright agreement with Sun: these are not Sun employees but I don't see reasons to consider their patches different than those by Sun/Oracle employees: http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html If we manage to get some safe guidelines on what patches we can reuse this would simplify integration a lot. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unused patches
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: We would probably want to confirm with the original author for any pre-Apache patches, to make sure that the patch is given under ALv2. The exception might be those who were Sun/Oracle/IBM employees at the time. Could we try to have a clearer picture here, limited to patches that are attached to Bugzilla issues? Patches by then-Sun/Oracle employees belong to Sun/Oracle, but they haven't necessarily been explicitly granted to Apache. Or do we have permission to use all patches by Sun and Oracle employees in Bugzilla? I remember this was discussed but I can't find a conclusive answer. Patches by then-IBM employees, as far as I know, have not been granted to Apache by IBM. For both of the above scenarios I was speaking from the perspective of an IBMer. That allows me to make an additional set of assumptions that might not be true of other developers. But it is best to discuss in the context of a specific patch. Regards, -Rob And there's the group of people who signed a copyright agreement with Sun: these are not Sun employees but I don't see reasons to consider their patches different than those by Sun/Oracle employees: http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html If we manage to get some safe guidelines on what patches we can reuse this would simplify integration a lot. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
