Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-18 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,


On 17.02.2014 20:43, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


[snip]


BTW:
Cross the fingers that I'll get access to a 10.5.x machine after the
weekend.


I got the chance to test on a MacBook with 10.5.7 and it worked like I
wanted to see it.

So, we have confirmed that:
- users with 10.5 *) and 10.6 are pointed to AOO 4.0.1
- users with 10.7 and newer are pointed to AOO 4.1.0

*) I think we can forget to test 10.4 and older as it's unlikely that we
get the chance. However, I expect that these versions get identied the
same way, so I think these will be covered, too.

Feature done and verified. :-)



Thx for this feature.

Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 02/13/2014 11:13 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 02/13/2014 10:02 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Am 11.02.2014 um 00:55 schrieb Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 02/10/2014 10:22 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Am 10.02.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:


Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:


Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7



thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting
changes.

From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users
running Mac

OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a
note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.



This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So,
let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?



@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html



After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not
available.
Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/


It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the
green box was not correct. Is it now better?


Previously, I did not follow the link and thus, I did not notice
that itnwas the intended one.
Text looks better, but the link target would confuse unexperienced
user from my point of view - there too much clicks needed to get to
the corresponding directory containing the packages and then there
are too much files with similar names.
Better would be a direct link to the the installation package of the
4.0.1 which would be also available at sourceforge.net as I assume.


When we can be sure that the previous versions will remain longer on
Sourceforge then OK.

I've implemented a special behaviour for old Mac builds to provide
assembled download URLs, so I hope I've covered that part. Please
test - and also the linked checksum files.



In my special downgraded OS X the test is ok.


Thats good to see.


Just one minor issue:
The tooltip for the Release Notes link talks about 4.1.0. The link
goes correctly to the 4.0.1 Release Notes, only the tooltip is wrong.

In my normal OS X the test is ok, except the link to the Release Notes.


Yes, this was hardcoded. Now exchanged with a variable, depending on the
respective version.

BTW:
Cross the fingers that I'll get access to a 10.5.x machine after the
weekend.


I got the chance to test on a MacBook with 10.5.7 and it worked like I 
wanted to see it.


So, we have confirmed that:
- users with 10.5 *) and 10.6 are pointed to AOO 4.0.1
- users with 10.7 and newer are pointed to AOO 4.1.0

*) I think we can forget to test 10.4 and older as it's unlikely that we 
get the chance. However, I expect that these versions get identied the 
same way, so I think these will be covered, too.


Feature done and verified. :-)

Marcus




It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available
for Mac OS
X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.


Yes, that was intended.


[1] changing key ProductVersion in
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist


Interesting feature. :-)


If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze
webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


Marcus




BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac
;-) ).
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not
work. So,
please test also with other old versions.

Thanks in advance

Marcus



On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:


On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de
wrote:

The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current
version to my

page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX
10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of
fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details
you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk
so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4
then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.

+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.




+1

Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.

that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?



As Jürgen already mentioned the 

Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-13 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 02/13/2014 10:02 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Am 11.02.2014 um 00:55 schrieb Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 02/10/2014 10:22 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Am 10.02.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.dewrote:


Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:


Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7



thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac

OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.



This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?



@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html



After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/


It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the green box 
was not correct. Is it now better?


Previously, I did not follow the link and thus, I did not notice that itnwas 
the intended one.
Text looks better, but the link target would confuse unexperienced user from my 
point of view - there too much clicks needed to get to the corresponding 
directory containing the packages and then there are too much files with 
similar names.
Better would be a direct link to the the installation package of the 4.0.1 
which would be also available at sourceforge.net as I assume.


When we can be sure that the previous versions will remain longer on 
Sourceforge then OK.

I've implemented a special behaviour for old Mac builds to provide assembled 
download URLs, so I hope I've covered that part. Please test - and also the 
linked checksum files.



In my special downgraded OS X the test is ok.


Thats good to see.


Just one minor issue:
The tooltip for the Release Notes link talks about 4.1.0. The link goes 
correctly to the 4.0.1 Release Notes, only the tooltip is wrong.

In my normal OS X the test is ok, except the link to the Release Notes.


Yes, this was hardcoded. Now exchanged with a variable, depending on the 
respective version.


BTW:
Cross the fingers that I'll get access to a 10.5.x machine after the 
weekend.


Thanks

Marcus




It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.


Yes, that was intended.


[1] changing key ProductVersion in
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist


Interesting feature. :-)


If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


Marcus




BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
please test also with other old versions.

Thanks in advance

Marcus



  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:


On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.dewrote:

  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my

page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.

  +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.




+1

  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.

that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?



As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?



Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent 

Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/8/14 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
 Hi Markus,

 below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7

 thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

 From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
 OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
 Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
 that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.

 This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
 see what will be possible.

 Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
 identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

 @Oliver: Can you help me here, too?
 
 @Oliver and all Mac users:
 
 I've finished a first test. Please have a look:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html
 

the first thing I see is OS X 32-bit Intel (dmg) which is wrong for 4.1


 If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Here are the results on my 10.7 system, nothing for 64 bit

Browser variables   Values
navigator.appCodeName   Mozilla
navigator.appName   Netscape
navigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh)
navigator.platform  MacIntel
navigator.oscpu Intel Mac OS X 10.7
navigator.cpuClass  undefined
navigator.product   Gecko
navigator.productSub20100101
navigator.vendor
navigator.vendorSub 
navigator.language  en-US
navigator.browserLanguage   undefined
navigator.userLanguage  undefined
navigator.systemLanguageundefined
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0
JavaScript functions/variables  Values
Language name   English (US)
Language ISO code   en-US
Language array data en-US,English (US),English
(US),y,http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
Release matrix platform position8
Release matrix platform array data
Mac_x86_install,y,163,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
UI platform nameOS X 32-bit Intel (DMG)
URL platform name   Mac_x86_install
Old platformfalse
File name   Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
File extension  .dmg
File size   163
Download file link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/download
Checksum file link (here for MD5)
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.md5
hasMirrorLink() true
getLink()
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/download
General error   false





 
 BTW:
 I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
 Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
 please test also with other old versions.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:
 On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:
 On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:

 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version
 to my
 page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
 It is
 based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
 enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
 have a
 look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
 port
 becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
 comes
 with the 10.7 SDK.

 +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.

 +1

 Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
 that we
 only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?

 As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
 protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

 If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
 Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
 have
 such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
 happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?

 Good point.

 Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
 versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
 Safari).

 Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
 table:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

 If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
 something around the scripting.

 Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
 detected.

 

Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi,


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

 Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

 Hi Markus,

 below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7


 thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
 OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
 Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
 that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


 This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
 see what will be possible.

 Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
 identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

 @Oliver: Can you help me here, too?


 @Oliver and all Mac users:

 I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html


as Jürgen already reported, it talks about 32 bit on Firefox and Safari



 If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


on Firefox:
*Browser variables **Values*navigator.appCodeName Mozillanavigator.appName
Netscapenavigator.appVersion 5.0 (Macintosh)navigator.platform
MacIntelnavigator.oscpu
Intel Mac OS X 10.7navigator.cpuClass undefinednavigator.product
Geckonavigator.productSub
20100101navigator.vendor
navigator.vendorSub
navigator.language de-DEnavigator.browserLanguage
undefinednavigator.userLanguage
undefinednavigator.systemLanguage undefinednavigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0
*JavaScript functions/variables**Values*Language name DeutschLanguage ISO
code deLanguage array data
de,German,Deutsch,y,http://www.openoffice.org/de/Release
matrix platform position 8Release matrix platform array data
Mac_x86_install,y,182,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmgUI
platform name OS X 32-bit Intel (DMG)URL platform name Mac_x86_installOld
platform falseFile name Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmgFile
extension .dmgFile size 182Download file link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg/downloadChecksum
file link (here for MD5)
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.md5hasMirrorLink()
truegetLink()
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg/downloadGeneral
error false
on Safari:
Browser variablesValues
navigator.appCodeNameMozilla
navigator.appNameNetscape
navigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_5)
AppleWebKit/537.73.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.1.1 Safari/537.73.11
navigator.platformMacIntel
navigator.oscpuundefined
navigator.cpuClassundefined
navigator.productGecko
navigator.productSub20030107
navigator.vendorApple Computer, Inc.
navigator.vendorSub
navigator.languagede-de
navigator.browserLanguageundefined
navigator.userLanguageundefined
navigator.systemLanguageundefined
navigator.userAgentMozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_5)
AppleWebKit/537.73.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.1.1 Safari/537.73.11
JavaScript functions/variablesValues
Language nameDeutsch
Language ISO codede
Language array datade,German,Deutsch,y,http://www.openoffice.org/de/
Release matrix platform position8
Release matrix platform array data
Mac_x86_install,y,182,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg
UI platform nameOS X 32-bit Intel (DMG)
URL platform nameMac_x86_install
Old platformfalse
File nameApache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg
File extension.dmg
File size182
Download file link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg/download
Checksum file link (here for MD5)
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.md5
hasMirrorLink()true
getLink()
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg/download
General errorfalse

Best regards, Oliver.



 BTW:
 I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
 Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
 please test also with other old versions.

 Thanks in advance

 Marcus



  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

 On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

 On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:

  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
 page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only 

Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 02/10/2014 10:42 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 2/8/14 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7


thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.


 From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?


@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html



the first thing I see is OS X 32-bit Intel (dmg) which is wrong for 4.1


Ah, OK. I've just not changed this until now.


If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


Here are the results on my 10.7 system, nothing for 64 bit


Please can you provide me with data =10.6 if you see problems?

Thanks

Marcus




BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
please test also with other old versions.

Thanks in advance

Marcus




On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de  wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version
to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
Safari).

Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
something around the scripting.

Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
detected.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi,

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

 Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

 Hi Markus,

 below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7


 thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
 OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
 Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
 that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


 This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
 see what will be possible.

 Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
 identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

 @Oliver: Can you help me here, too?


 @Oliver and all Mac users:

 I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html


After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/

It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.

[1] changing key ProductVersion in
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist


 If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


on Firefox:
*Browser variables **Values*navigator.appCodeName Mozillanavigator.appName
Netscapenavigator.appVersion 5.0 (Macintosh)navigator.platform
MacIntelnavigator.oscpu
Intel Mac OS X 10.6navigator.cpuClass undefinednavigator.product
Geckonavigator.productSub
20100101navigator.vendor
navigator.vendorSub
navigator.language de-DEnavigator.browserLanguage
undefinednavigator.userLanguage
undefinednavigator.systemLanguage undefinednavigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0
*JavaScript functions/variables**Values*Language name DeutschLanguage ISO
code deLanguage array data
de,German,Deutsch,y,http://www.openoffice.org/de/Release
matrix platform position 8Release matrix platform array data
Mac_x86_install,y,182,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_de.dmgUI
platform name MacOS X (10.6 or older)URL platform name Mac_x86_installOld
platform trueFile name
File extension .dmgFile size 182Download file link
http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/Checksum file link (here for MD5)
hasMirrorLink() truegetLink() http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/General
error true








































on Safari:
no results as Safari does not start in my downgraded system.

Best regards, Oliver.


 BTW:
 I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
 Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
 please test also with other old versions.

 Thanks in advance

 Marcus



  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

 On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

 On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:

  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
 page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
 It is
 based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
 enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
 have a
 look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
 port
 becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
 comes
 with the 10.7 SDK.

  +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


 +1

  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
 that we
 only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


 As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
 protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

 If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
 Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
 have
 such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
 happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


 Good point.

 Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
 versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
 Safari).

 Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
 table:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

 If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
 something around the scripting.

 Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
 detected.

 Marcus




Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:


Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7



thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac

OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.



This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?



@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html



After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/


It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the green 
box was not correct. Is it now better?



It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.


Yes, that was intended.


[1] changing key ProductVersion in
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist


Interesting feature. :-)


If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


Marcus




BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
please test also with other old versions.

Thanks in advance

Marcus



  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:


On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de  wrote:

  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my

page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.

  +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.




+1

  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.

that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?



As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?



Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
Safari).

Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
something around the scripting.

Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
detected.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi,

Am 10.02.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

 Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:
 
 Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
 Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
 
 Hi Markus,
 
 below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7
 
 
 thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.
 
  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
 OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
 Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
 that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.
 
 
 This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
 see what will be possible.
 
 Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
 identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.
 
 @Oliver: Can you help me here, too?
 
 
 @Oliver and all Mac users:
 
 I've finished a first test. Please have a look:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html
 
 
 After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got
 
 Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
 Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
 webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/
 
 It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the green box 
 was not correct. Is it now better?

Previously, I did not follow the link and thus, I did not notice that itnwas 
the intended one.
Text looks better, but the link target would confuse unexperienced user from my 
point of view - there too much clicks needed to get to the corresponding 
directory containing the packages and then there are too much files with 
similar names.
Better would be a direct link to the the installation package of the 4.0.1 
which would be also available at sourceforge.net as I assume.

Best regards, Oliver

 
 It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
 X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.
 
 Yes, that was intended.
 
 [1] changing key ProductVersion in
 /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist
 
 Interesting feature. :-)
 
 If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 BTW:
 I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
 Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
 please test also with other old versions.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
 Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:
 
 On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:
 
 On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de  wrote:
 
  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
 page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
 It is
 based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
 enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
 have a
 look at our progress tracking page [2].
 
 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm
 
 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
 port
 becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
 comes
 with the 10.7 SDK.
 
  +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.
 
 
 +1
 
  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
 that we
 only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?
 
 
 As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
 protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.
 
 If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
 Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
 have
 such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
 happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?
 
 
 Good point.
 
 Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
 versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
 Safari).
 
 Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
 table:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
 
 If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
 something around the scripting.
 
 Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
 detected.
 
 Marcus

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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 02/10/2014 10:22 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Am 10.02.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de:


Am 02/10/2014 08:53 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de   wrote:


Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:


Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7



thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.

  From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac

OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.



This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?



@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html



After downgrading my iMac to 10.6 [1] I got

Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 for *MacOS X (10.6 or older)* is not available.
Please choose another platform build from the alternative download
webpage.http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/


It seems the order to present the correct text and link inside the green box 
was not correct. Is it now better?


Previously, I did not follow the link and thus, I did not notice that itnwas 
the intended one.
Text looks better, but the link target would confuse unexperienced user from my 
point of view - there too much clicks needed to get to the corresponding 
directory containing the packages and then there are too much files with 
similar names.
Better would be a direct link to the the installation package of the 4.0.1 
which would be also available at sourceforge.net as I assume.


When we can be sure that the previous versions will remain longer on 
Sourceforge then OK.


I've implemented a special behaviour for old Mac builds to provide 
assembled download URLs, so I hope I've covered that part. Please test - 
and also the linked checksum files.


Thanks for your help.

Marcus




It would be great, if it could be added that 4.0.1 is available for Mac OS
X 10.6 or older incl. corresponding link.


Yes, that was intended.


[1] changing key ProductVersion in
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist


Interesting feature. :-)


If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html


Marcus




BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ).
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So,
please test also with other old versions.

Thanks in advance

Marcus



  On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:


On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de   wrote:

  The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my

page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.

  +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.




+1

  Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.

that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?



As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?



Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
Safari).

Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
something around the scripting.

Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
detected.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-02-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7


thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.


From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's
see what will be possible.

Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.

@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?


@Oliver and all Mac users:

I've finished a first test. Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html

If you see problems, please tell me the data from the analyze webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

BTW:
I've tested with 10.6 data (as far as I can do this without a Mac ;-) ). 
Older versions to recognize are derived from 10.6 but may not work. So, 
please test also with other old versions.


Thanks in advance

Marcus




On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already
have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
Safari).

Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
something around the scripting.

Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
detected.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-30 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/30/2014 08:38 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7


thanks for the 10.7 data. At least here I can do some scripting changes.


 From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac
OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1.
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


This depends on when 4.0.1 will be available in the archive. So, let's 
see what will be possible.


Nevetheless, as I don't know if older and newer browsers than 10.7 
identifying itself in the same way, I need more data.


@Oliver: Can you help me here, too?

Thanks

Marcus




On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can
have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g.
that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and
Safari).

Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the
table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build
something around the scripting.

Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was
detected.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/29/2014 08:43 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

On 28.01.2014 23:18, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/19/2013 05:58 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to
my page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


I've created a new webpage for sys reqs:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html


Thanks, great work.
Maybe we should not state so prominently that we are not Windows 8
certified. We don't have the goal to be and probably never will. As far
as I know we also not certified on any other Windows, or any other OS.


For the first step I've just modified the Mac things, just to make sure 
it will not be forgotten.


For the Win certification, in the past we had some users who ask for 
this. We simply referred them to the sys regs. So, in general IMHO it's 
helping to have it. I've changed the wording a bit. Is it now better?


Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-29 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi Markus,

below you find the output of my iMac running Mac OS X 10.7

From my point of view it should be assured that Mac users running Mac 
OS X 10.6 or earlier are _not_ directed to a download of AOO 4.1. 
Instead they should be directed to AOO 4.0.1 together with a note saying 
that AOO 4.1 needs Mac OS X version 10.7 or later.


Best regards, Oliver.

FIREFOX
Browser variables   Values
navigator.appCodeName   Mozilla
navigator.appName   Netscape
navigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh)
navigator.platform  MacIntel
navigator.oscpu Intel Mac OS X 10.7
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On 28.01.2014 23:24, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g. that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens 

Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 12/19/2013 05:58 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de  wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


I've created a new webpage for sys reqs:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html

Of course it is not yet linked from somewhere.

Marcus


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g. that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.

If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already have
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


Good point.

Can someone help me and test the download webpage with different OSX 
versions? I need the user agent text fromthe used browsers (Firefox and 
Safari).


Or better, please use this webpage and send me the raw data from the table:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

If there is a way to recognize the differences, then I can build 
something around the scripting.


Otherwise I would suggest a general hint text when OSX in general was 
detected.


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/28/2014 11:18 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 12/19/2013 05:58 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my
page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up.
It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4
comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


I've created a new webpage for sys reqs:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html

Of course it is not yet linked from somewhere.


I think the paragraphs about Java and accessibility need an update. So, 
please experts, update the text, so that it is correct for the release.


Thanks

Marcus

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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-28 Thread František Erben
Hello,
Java is necessary for use Wizards (Letter, Fax, Agenda…) too.
If you don’t have installed Java (OS X 10.7 is distributed by default without 
Java), AOO show you dialog about it.

Best regards

+Frantisek Erben



28. 1. 2014 v 23:34, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de:

 I think the paragraphs about Java and accessibility need an update



Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-28 Thread Andre Fischer

On 28.01.2014 23:18, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 12/19/2013 05:58 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerrhdu_...@alice.de  wrote:

The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to 
my page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. 
It is

based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new 
port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 
comes

with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


I've created a new webpage for sys reqs:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html


Thanks, great work.
Maybe we should not state so prominently that we are not Windows 8 
certified.  We don't have the goal to be and probably never will. As far 
as I know we also not certified on any other Windows, or any other OS.


-Andre



Of course it is not yet linked from somewhere.

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Re: How to distinguish whether a 32 or 64 bit AOO is installed on systems that may host both bitnesses ? (Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2014-01-05 Thread Armin Le Grand
Sorry for top posting,

just a thought: shouldn't there be the same scenario already for linux 32/64 
bit versions and thus maybe a solution alraedy exists for this...? This 
scenario may be new to mac versions (and does not yet exist for win version), 
but we have 32 and 64 bit versions for Linux for quite some time...

--
ALG (iPad)

 Am 19.12.2013 um 09:44 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org:
 
 Congratulations for allowing AOO be compiled in 64 bit for the MacOSX!
 
 Is or will be there a possiblity to find out which version of AOO is 
 installed, the 32 or the 64 bit
 version?
 
 There is at least one (mine ;) ) third party extension that may try to add an 
 extension to AOO. As
 the app can only be installed in either 32 or 64 bit, the extension support 
 for AOO should only be
 installed, if bitnesses between both match. So on operating systems where AOO 
 can be installed
 either as 32 or as 64 bit it would be necessary to figure out (in a platform 
 independent way) what
 bitness the installed AOO carries.
 
 As unoinfo seems to not carry the bitness information, is there another 
 (portable, platform
 independent) way to find out what bitness the installed AOO has?
 
 TIA,
 
 ---rony
 
 P.S.: Expecting that after all PCs migrated from 32 to 64 bit, that then the 
 migration to 128 will
 start, such that this remains an interesting piece of information for the 
 times to come.
 
 
 
 On 19.12.2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr wrote:
 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page 
 [1]. Jürgen already
 mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is based on todays 
 trunk, which already
 contains a lot of fixes and enhancements compared to our latest release. For 
 details you can have
 a look at our progress tracking page [2].
 
 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm
 
 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port 
 becomes active. To build
 it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes with the 10.7 SDK.
 
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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-20 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 19.12.2013 17:58, jan i wrote:

On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:


The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page
[1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is
based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
look at our progress tracking page [2].

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port
becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes
with the 10.7 SDK.


+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.


+1


Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g. that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?


As Jürgen already mentioned the installation files are already 
protected. We should also update the release notes, etc.


If it is possible to know the OS version from e.g. the browser's User 
Agent then we should update the download page too. Maybe we already have 
such a mechanism. Does anyone happen to have OSX 10.3 or earlier? What 
happens when you go to the OpenOffice download page?


Herbert

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switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-19 Thread Herbert Duerr
The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my 
page [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and 
up. It is based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes 
and enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can 
have a look at our progress tracking page [2].


[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new 
port becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. 
XCode4 comes with the 10.7 SDK.


Herbert


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How to distinguish whether a 32 or 64 bit AOO is installed on systems that may host both bitnesses ? (Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-19 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Congratulations for allowing AOO be compiled in 64 bit for the MacOSX!

Is or will be there a possiblity to find out which version of AOO is installed, 
the 32 or the 64 bit
version?

There is at least one (mine ;) ) third party extension that may try to add an 
extension to AOO. As
the app can only be installed in either 32 or 64 bit, the extension support for 
AOO should only be
installed, if bitnesses between both match. So on operating systems where AOO 
can be installed
either as 32 or as 64 bit it would be necessary to figure out (in a platform 
independent way) what
bitness the installed AOO carries.

As unoinfo seems to not carry the bitness information, is there another 
(portable, platform
independent) way to find out what bitness the installed AOO has?

TIA,

---rony

P.S.: Expecting that after all PCs migrated from 32 to 64 bit, that then the 
migration to 128 will
start, such that this remains an interesting piece of information for the times 
to come.



On 19.12.2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr wrote:
 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page 
 [1]. Jürgen already
 mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is based on todays trunk, 
 which already
 contains a lot of fixes and enhancements compared to our latest release. For 
 details you can have
 a look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port 
 becomes active. To build
 it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes with the 10.7 SDK.


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-19 Thread jan i
On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:

 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is
 based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
 enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
 look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port
 becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes
 with the 10.7 SDK.

+1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.

Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g. that we
only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?

rgds
jan I.


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Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-19 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/19/13 5:58 PM, jan i wrote:
 On 19 December 2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr hdu_...@alice.de wrote:
 
 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page
 [1]. Jürgen already mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is
 based on todays trunk, which already contains a lot of fixes and
 enhancements compared to our latest release. For details you can have a
 look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port
 becomes active. To build it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes
 with the 10.7 SDK.

 +1 the wiki build instructions should also be updated.
 
 Do we also need to update information on the download page (e.g. that we
 only support OSX 10.7 and up) ?

yes, we should make this clear on the download page and in the release
notes. But the new version itself will not run on versions lower 10.7
and have a version check, see
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/MacOS_version_check_AOO4.1.png

And if somebody tries to start it, the error box with the related
version info pops up, see again the screen shot.

Juergen

 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
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Re: How to distinguish whether a 32 or 64 bit AOO is installed on systems that may host both bitnesses ? (Re: switch trunk from Mac 32bit to 64bit

2013-12-19 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/19/13 5:44 PM, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
 Congratulations for allowing AOO be compiled in 64 bit for the MacOSX!
 
 Is or will be there a possiblity to find out which version of AOO is 
 installed, the 32 or the 64 bit
 version?
 
 There is at least one (mine ;) ) third party extension that may try to add an 
 extension to AOO. As
 the app can only be installed in either 32 or 64 bit, the extension support 
 for AOO should only be
 installed, if bitnesses between both match. So on operating systems where AOO 
 can be installed
 either as 32 or as 64 bit it would be necessary to figure out (in a platform 
 independent way) what
 bitness the installed AOO carries.
 
 As unoinfo seems to not carry the bitness information, is there another 
 (portable, platform
 independent) way to find out what bitness the installed AOO has?

no I think today it is not so easy to detect but it sounds like a useful
enhancement.

Juergen

 
 TIA,
 
 ---rony
 
 P.S.: Expecting that after all PCs migrated from 32 to 64 bit, that then the 
 migration to 128 will
 start, such that this remains an interesting piece of information for the 
 times to come.
 
 
 
 On 19.12.2013 17:29, Herbert Duerr wrote:
 The new Mac port looks quite good. I uploaded a current version to my page 
 [1]. Jürgen already
 mentioned it will only work for OSX 10.7 and up. It is based on todays 
 trunk, which already
 contains a lot of fixes and enhancements compared to our latest release. For 
 details you can have
 a look at our progress tracking page [2].

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/
 [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/izlist9.htm

 In the early days of next year I plan to update our trunk so the new port 
 becomes active. To build
 it yourself you'll need XCode4 then. XCode4 comes with the 10.7 SDK.

 
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