[dev] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Now available: Apache OpenOffice Announcement List

2011-12-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi,

 do you understand why there isn't a simple answer?

 The same concepts are expressed in similar way inside TDF's mailing lists.
 With the same good reasons.

Sure, guess my first email was kind of naive.

 But I'm sure at the end the reason and the common good will prevail on
 egocentric positions.

Hopefully :)
In the meantime thanks for working on a free office suite.

- Clemens
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[dev] Re: Now available: Apache OpenOffice Announcement List

2011-12-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Why doesn't apache simply contribute to LibreOffice?
I don't see the reasioning behind spliting the scarce resources any further.

- Clemens

2011/12/27 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
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Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-03-08 Thread Clemens Eisserer
  what are your opinions on making java 1.5 a requirement for OOo 3.0?

I think in general its a good idea - it also will guarantee that OOo
users that will install plugins written in java will also most likely
will have java-1.5 installed.
Because the metadata thing is something optional, the only thing that
will change is that if the user would like to use java-parts of OOo
he/she would have to have java-1.5 minimum installed.

lg Clemens

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[dev] Where to discuss about Google's Summer of Code?

2007-04-11 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hello,

I've submitted two proposals for OpenOffice.org:
* Implement Subpixel-AA for OpenOffice
* Imrpove VCL

The first is focused on implementing subpixel antialiased fonts in
OpenOffice (also called cleartype, ...). This improves readability and
font-quality on LCD displays.

The second is focused on improving VCL in general:
* Extend/Create layout managers  and use them in real dialogs.
Currently most dialogs in OpenOffice don't use a layout-manager and
therefor are fixed-size.
* Improve VCL's performance and perceived performance/user-feedback.
Somtimes VCL feels a bit slow (e.g. openoffice's menus).
* Play arround with optional double buffering, to make painting more smooth.

I hope a few devs/mentors like my ideas - if you've ideas howto extend
the proposals to fit them better the existing needs please let me
know.

Is there a special place at OpenOffice.org to discuss the proposals? I
am getting a bit nervous now that google has assigned slots to the
projects ;)

Thank you in advance, lg Clemens

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[dev] VCL performance , feature improvements for Sommer of Code?

2007-02-21 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hello,

What do you think about writing out a summer-of-code slot this year
for enhancing VCL.
VCL itself is a great toolkit and I guess because of
not-existing-manpower it will be used for another couple of years, but
I think it lacks some features of modern toolkits.

Some areas which could be improved:
- Performance. Sometimes slow, sometimes bad feeling. E.g. menus in
OpenOffice, Support for doublebuffering
- Layout Managers. Implement Layout-Managers (already existing?) and
adopt important dialogs to use them.
- I am not a VCL experts but maybe there are additional things to be done?

lg Clemens

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Re: [dev] Is it still worth to work on OpenOffice' gui toolkit?

2006-06-03 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hello Mathias,

Well my personal opinion would be to better stick with QT or if this
is not possible because of licensing reasons use wxwidgets. This way
we'll re-invent the wheel another time.
I know this has been discussed many times and I am not in a position
to suggest anything, I am not very experienced at all ;)

Thanks a lot for your suggestions, I'll register there.

lg Clemens

2006/6/3, Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Clemens Eisserer wrote:

 Hello,

 I am a long-term openoffice user and to some degree a bit of gui
 performance fanatic.
 I dislike UIs which show tearing effects and don't perform well and
 just very few toolkits really make me happy performance-feeling whise.
 I just can speak for OOo running on Linux, which shows some ugliness
 when working with menus and some other small  performance glitches.

 I would like to work on it in my vacation, however does it still make
 sence to work on the currently used toolkit (vcl or however its
 called)? I read many articles that OOo will move to a self-written
 abstraction layer which uses underlaying widgets.
 In which timeframe will this happen, or is this still planned at all.

VCL will still be our technology base for the GUI in the forseeable
future as we don't expect to get enough developers to rewrite all the
existing UI code in a short time frame, so working on improvements for
VCL still makes a lot of sense. The only UI or graphics component in OOo
that does not use VCL currently is the presentation engine (AFAIK).

ATM we are extending the UNO API layer above VCL to enable the
development of more feature rich components and Add-Ons that don't link
against VCL and so can be implemented and deployed independently from
our release and development cycles, but this layer still is on top of
VCL. Wether we will replace the implementation of this API toolkit later
on is still object of discussion but IMHO will not happen soon.

If you are interested in improving VCL please join the
dev@gsl.openoffice.org mailing list. The developers over there will be
glad to get some help, I'm sure.

Best regards,
Mathias

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[dev] Is it still worth to work on OpenOffice' gui toolkit?

2006-06-02 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hello,

I am a long-term openoffice user and to some degree a bit of gui
performance fanatic.
I dislike UIs which show tearing effects and don't perform well and
just very few toolkits really make me happy performance-feeling whise.
I just can speak for OOo running on Linux, which shows some ugliness
when working with menus and some other small  performance glitches.

I would like to work on it in my vacation, however does it still make
sence to work on the currently used toolkit (vcl or however its
called)? I read many articles that OOo will move to a self-written
abstraction layer which uses underlaying widgets.
In which timeframe will this happen, or is this still planned at all.

Thank you, lg Clemens

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