[dev] Re: Quarterly review meetings for identifying important issues and enhancements
Hello, Martin Hollmichel schrieb: > Hi, > > in the past there were several complaints raised that some defects and > also requirements got not the right priority. In fact we've got a long > list of RFE in IssueTracker (either assigned to "requirements" or "bh") > and it is not obvious if there is ongoing work on these issues or not. > Also it is often not that transparent how decision making on spending > resources to that issues is made. > > The OpenOffice.org project leads agreed to support the proposal > <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Quarterly_Review> to introduce > quarterly review meetings to identify the most important issues and > request for enhancements. > > please use the dev@openoffice.org mailing list for feedback and watch > that list for announcements for the schedule of the various review > meetings, +1 regards Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Meta Issue 87736
Hello, Martin Hollmichel schrieb: > Hi, > > I've created issue > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87736 for tracking > blocker issues for the 3.0 Beta release. For detailed information please > see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease30 When can we expect a developer snapshot for testing before Beta-Release? Regards Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: dependency problem on DEBIAN packages of oodev
Hello, This is a already known issue and will be fixed in the next milestone. Regards Mechtilde norbert.breun schrieb: > Hi there, > > installing DEV300_m21_native_packed-1_en-US.9319 and > DEV300_m21_native_packed-1_de.9319 > I get following dependency problems ( as a workaround I copied files > manually in place): > > ooobasis3.0-binfilter > ooobasis3.0-en-us-binfilter > ooobasis3.0-de-binfilter > > DEV300_m21_native_packed-1_en-US.9319 > > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ooobasis3.0-binfilter: > ooobasis3.0-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-calc; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-calc is not installed. > ooobasis3.0-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-draw; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-draw is not installed. > ooobasis3.0-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-impress; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-impress is not installed. > ooobasis3.0-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-math; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-math is not installed. > ooobasis3.0-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-writer; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-writer is not installed. > dpkg: error processing ooobasis3.0-binfilter (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of > ooobasis3.0-en-us-binfilter: > ooobasis3.0-en-us-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-en-us; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-en-us is not installed. > dpkg: error processing ooobasis3.0-en-us-binfilter (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > > DEV300_m21_native_packed-1_de.9319 > > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of > ooobasis3.0-de-binfilter: > ooobasis3.0-de-binfilter depends on ooobasis3.0-de; however: > Package ooobasis3.0-de is not installed. > dpkg: error processing ooobasis3.0-de-binfilter (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > > Just FYI: > > Regards > Norbert -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: volunteer for English 3.0 for Mac PPC
Hello, *, Dr Daniel Flickinger schrieb: > There are German and French versions of 3.0 for Mac PPC but not English. > > Does the community need another version builder? I have the horsepower > and the experience, particularly with FreeBSD which underlies Mac. I > presume the primary task would be to compile in the language pacs. > > The latest revision to OSX 10.5.5 blew Open Office 2.3.0 and 2.4.0 out > of the water with changes to X11. I had to recompile Mozilla, Gimp, and > Xemacs. The German and French versions of Open Office seem to work > flawlessly but using the German version with a dictionary in hand is > tedious since most of the menu items are not listed. There is no problem to build an English version for PPC. you can get one here: http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.0.0rc4/ The problem is that there is no team to test this version as the French and German one is tested. After a report of these tests and the result of them it can be released. I need only a report about the tests. Kind regards Mechtilde Member of the Germanophone QA -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Buildbot Master
Hello Christian, * Christian Lins schrieb: > Hi! > > Some may have noticed it already: the Buildbot page at > http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/ is currently not available. > I have no idea why nor can I fix it :/ http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/ is up again. But *all* bots seems to be offline Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Buildbot Master
Hello Christian Lins schrieb: > Hi! > > On 01/23/09 10:03, Mechtilde wrote: >> Hello Christian, * >> >> Christian Lins schrieb: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Some may have noticed it already: the Buildbot page at >>> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/ is currently not available. >>> I have no idea why nor can I fix it :/ >> >> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/ is up again. >> >> But *all* bots seems to be offline > > The bots had been reconnected to the temporary master teneon.de:8080 (as > announced in the tools-tinderbox ML). > Now everything should be fine and working as normal :-) Thanks All things are normal now Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello, Jörg Jahnke schrieb: > Hi Andre, > > Andre Schnabel schrieb: >> Hi Thorsten, >> >> Original-Nachricht >>> Von: Thorsten Ziehm >> >>> where is the problem? (I know I asked this since months and do not get >>> any detailed answer) :-( >> >> You are correct with this. And I was just going to get builds from the >> buildbots to do some testruns. And here is the first problem: >> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Win-XP2/builds/701 >> >> The build failed! This is for a regular OOO310_m1 build which should >> never fail in a somewhat "clean" environment. > > Is this really the answer to Thorstens older question? I guess not. And > also to Mechtilde's initial question, which Stephan posted here, it is > not the answer because there the issue of differences in functionality > was raised. With a failed build you get no functionality at all. > > From the perspective of a QA member, who wants to create a build that he > can test, a failed build certainly is more than annoying. In a previous > mail Gregor asked for the different tasks BuildBots were meant to work > on. IMO the focus up to now was more on testing the builds for many > different platforms and early find and fix build problems for these > platforms. They currently perhaps have more a developer focus and not a > QA focus. So that you stumble over a build problem on a BuildBot does > not mean that the BuildBot system is broken, it might as well mean that > the current BuildBots are more useful for developers than for QA means. My intention is that all steps going to a working version should be able to use the same build environment as in HH as at the buildsbot as someone else build it on their own machines. Only under this prerequisite it is possible to do an effective QA as on the CWS as on the master. So we (developer and QA) didn't need to look if the problem comes from the build environment or from the code. and in the end it will be easier for all involved person to work together finding the bugs. > > But indeed we should think about adding that QA focus and installing > some BuildBots that are as close as possible to the Hamburg RE > environment where the milestone builds take place, so that the BuildBots > can create builds with a higher reliabiliy. We don't need additinal environments. In my opinion it is absulutely necessary that as the comunity developers as the community qa van use the same environment as the same group in HH. No different environments for any of these groups. > >> >> I'll try to get at least some linux builds: >> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-7.10-i386/builds/661 >> >> Maybe I can provide a set of test results (diffed to a sun build) - >> but as said .. this might take some weeks. > > IMO that would be very useful. We should ensure that we not spend time > and resources into adding BuildBots with an environment close to the > Hamburg RE one and later find out that all was wasted because the real > problems were e.g. different Windows Managers of the test machines or > whatever. To analyse the problems of different window manages can only be worked if all other things of the build environment are identical. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello, Jörg Jahnke schrieb: > Hi Andre, > > Andre Schnabel schrieb: >> Hi Thorsten, >> >> Original-Nachricht >>> Von: Thorsten Ziehm >> >>> where is the problem? (I know I asked this since months and do not get >>> any detailed answer) :-( >> >> You are correct with this. And I was just going to get builds from the >> buildbots to do some testruns. And here is the first problem: >> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Win-XP2/builds/701 >> >> The build failed! This is for a regular OOO310_m1 build which should >> never fail in a somewhat "clean" environment. > > Is this really the answer to Thorstens older question? I guess not. And > also to Mechtilde's initial question, which Stephan posted here, it is > not the answer because there the issue of differences in functionality > was raised. With a failed build you get no functionality at all. > > From the perspective of a QA member, who wants to create a build that he > can test, a failed build certainly is more than annoying. In a previous > mail Gregor asked for the different tasks BuildBots were meant to work > on. IMO the focus up to now was more on testing the builds for many > different platforms and early find and fix build problems for these > platforms. They currently perhaps have more a developer focus and not a > QA focus. So that you stumble over a build problem on a BuildBot does > not mean that the BuildBot system is broken, it might as well mean that > the current BuildBots are more useful for developers than for QA means. My intention is that all steps going to a working version should be able to use the same build environment as in HH as at the buildsbot as someone else build it on their own machines. Only under this prerequisite it is possible to do an effective QA as on the CWS as on the master. So we (developer and QA) didn't need to look if the problem comes from the build environment or from the code. and in the end it will be easier for all involved person to work together finding the bugs. > > But indeed we should think about adding that QA focus and installing > some BuildBots that are as close as possible to the Hamburg RE > environment where the milestone builds take place, so that the BuildBots > can create builds with a higher reliabiliy. We don't need additinal environments. In my opinion it is absulutely necessary that as the comunity developers as the community qa van use the same environment as the same group in HH. No different environments for any of these groups. > >> >> I'll try to get at least some linux builds: >> http://termite.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-7.10-i386/builds/661 >> >> Maybe I can provide a set of test results (diffed to a sun build) - >> but as said .. this might take some weeks. > > IMO that would be very useful. We should ensure that we not spend time > and resources into adding BuildBots with an environment close to the > Hamburg RE one and later find out that all was wasted because the real > problems were e.g. different Windows Managers of the test machines or > whatever. To analyse the problems of different window manages can only be worked if all other things of the build environment are identical. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello André Schnabel schrieb: > Hi, > > Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > > Ok - the discussion started, because Mechtilde told Stephan Bergman that > there are problems with builds from the buildbots, if we want to do CWS > testing on such builds. > The reason to bring this up was because community members like to help > more with CWS testing and approval. Yes and for manual testing I need a build which contain all functions same as in the HH build which I need for my daily work. This didn't happen last times. > > Instead of discussing how to resolve the problems and make it easier for > community members to help with the QA process we have been: > - asked to provide a more deatieled list of differences in test results > - debating why we need more reliable builds from buildbots at all > - seem to be confused, what buildbots are for at all > - still are asked, if there are problems with builds from buildbots. And today evening I started the buildbot ubuntu-7.10 to create a build OOO310_m3 to create a list of diferences between the HH-build and the build from the build bot. The first difference I found was that it was impossible to get a build. > > The only thing I can do at the moment is to shake my head and stop this > discussion. I too :(( Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello Thorsten, *, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Andre and Mechtilde, > > André Schnabel schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> But yes ... there are no problems with testing builds from build bots. >> I think, we should just go on as we do now. > > That BuildBots have to generate installable builds are a MUST. I am on > your side. But as I said before it isn't possible for the RE team in > Hamburg to support and maintain all BuildBots which exists for OOo. That is not the goal of my demand. My suggestion is to work together to get a homogen build environment. therefore we need a knowledge about the HH build environment completely. the buildbots I try to use especially are: http://buildbot.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-7.10-i386 - for 32 bit DEBs http://buildbot.go-oo.org/buildbot/builders/Ubuntu-8.04-amd64 - for 64 bit DEBs > We do not have the resources! So the help of the community is needed to > maintain them. > > So do we know who maintain this BuildBot? They are Gregor Hartmann and Christian Lins for the builds above. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello Thorsten, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Juergen, > > Juergen Schmidt schrieb: > > > What Linux? What Mac? 32bit or 64bit? > For the L10N tests more than only 3 platforms were asked for. And not > all of the requested platforms are supported by Sun. So where you want > to begin and where you want to end. It will not be an easy task to > identify the needed platforms for such project. If all buildbots described at http://buildbot.go-oo.org/buildbot/waterfall have the same build environment. this will be a big success for the Commiunity wok at QA. > >>> We do not have the resources! So the help of the community is needed to >>> maintain them. >> That is a valid point. So do we have a brief description for the setup >> of our build clients that we can share with potential maintainers? > > What information is needed for maintaining BuildBots I do not know. > There are many Wiki-Pages for this and there is an Tinderbox Mailing > list, where you or interested people will get answers. the problem is to find the right question because there is no complete description about the build process in HH. the special build bots I described in my other mail are mantained from members of HH Team. And these buildbots are not the tinderboxes. and I assume the builds from the buildbots are different in funktionality as the builds from tinderboxes the build bots have to produce install sets the tinderboxes have to test the build prozess IMO And one example from my point of view. I want to test - manually - some dba CWSes. Therefore I must be sure that all things beside this CWS is the same as in the corresponding developer snapshot. And only we have this premise. we can do a reliable QA work on CWSes. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello Thorsten, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Mechtilde, > > This is and all other points correct and valid. But I want to know, > which problem did you have with such BuildBot in the past. It wasn't > always the case that you cannot get a build. So which was the problem > with base, that you want to have the same build environment like Sun > have? For example there was a time that the builds from buildbot are compiled with mozilla disabled So it was not possible to test the CWS containing new parts of this connection. > > Only when I know the root cause I can work on a solution. And this was my intention to try it again yesterday to get a build to compare actually. The result I told before. It fails. You can read it here http://buildbot.go-oo.org/buildbot/waterfall And as I told, > currently the solution to have the same build environment like Sun have > will take too much resources in my team. To document the build environment properly? Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Re: buildbot builds vs standard builds
Hello thorsten, * or another example:# Why is it possible to get a 64 build but no 32 bit build? Isn't it th same build environment on the buildbots? The maintainers are the same persons. Kind reards Mechtilde Mechtilde schrieb: > Hello Thorsten, > > Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: >> Hi Mechtilde, > > And this was my intention to try it again yesterday to get a build to > compare actually. > > The result I told before. It fails. You can read it here > http://buildbot.go-oo.org/buildbot/waterfall > > And as I told, >> currently the solution to have the same build environment like Sun have >> will take too much resources in my team. > > To document the build environment properly? > > Kind regards > > Mechtilde > > -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hello, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Max, > > Maximilian Odendahl schrieb: >> Hi, >> > > Do you know, how often a CWS returns back to development because of > broken functionality, not fixed issues or process violation? Its > up to 25-30% of all CWSs. You can check this in EIS. The data is > stable over the past years. :-( Can you tell me the Path how I can find this information in the EIS? Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hello, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Mathias, > > Mathias Bauer schrieb: > >> More testing on the master(!) would be very welcome. But on the CWS? >> This will make the "time to master" even longer and then again we are in >> the vicious cycle I explained in my first posting in this thread. > > Yes more testing on Master is welcome, that is true. But most testing > must be done on CWS. When broken code is in the master code line it > take too much time to fix it. And then you cannot do Quality Assurance. > You can make testing, but that has nothing to do with hold a Quality > standard! > > The time to master isn't a problem currently, I think. A general bugfix > CWS can be 'approved by QA' in 2 days. But when the master is broken, > you do not know, is the bug in the CWS or in the master. It takes longer > for checking the problems and this is what we have now. Reduce the time > to master will come, when the general quality of the master and the CWSs > is better. > > So more testing on CWS is also welcome! Yes Full ACK to last sentence. And this is not only a task for the Sun people. The persons who are interested at a CWS must be able to test a CWS. And this also if they aren't able to build OOo on their own. This is nearly impossible to do it for people outside from Sun. The same concerns to external CWSes. If we should discuss it more detailed we can do it in a separated thread. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hello Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb: > Hi Mechtilde, > > >>> So more testing on CWS is also welcome! >> Yes Full ACK to last sentence. >> And this is not only a task for the Sun people. The persons who are >> interested at a CWS must be able to test a CWS. And this also if they >> aren't able to build OOo on their own. > > > However, as good as this worked out for us, I am unsure whether this > would scale. I suppose if *every* developer would upload his/her CWS, > then people would pick a few only, and the majority would be still be > untested. I don't think that the developer have to upload each CWS build. I prefer that the possible tester are able to pick up the CWS builds they want beside the normal test scenario. I don't want to inflate this thread with the discussion about the buildbots. ;-) Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hello Thorsten, *, Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Mechtilde, > > As we talked in many other threads. Where are the problems for testing > a CWS from a BuildBot? 1. Because it doesn't build like OOO310_m5 also after this build was announced "ready for use". There was a patch missing. You can check fixed, you can test functionality > etc. No I can't because some times there are functionality missing I need in my daily work. So I can't test a CWS build in my daily work. I know that his special problem is solved in the meantime so I have to do more tests on the buildbots build if it is now possible to use it. In general it would be better the differences between the buildbot and the Sun environment will be documented. Then it is easier to decide where the problems come from. You are perhaps right, that for automated testing with VCLTestTool > doesn't show always the same results. But for this the QA team from Sun > is working on TestBots. So it isn't needed to adjust the test scripts > for all test environment we will find in the community. Then it si ot possible for the Community to do automated tests for CWSes which come from the community because nobody can evaluate the results in a normal time. For example: In Quaste I can see that OOO310_m5 under Linux schows 14 errors and 27 warnings and the tests isn't finished yet. So indepently how many errors I found in a build of the buildbot I have to take much time ime to evalutate these errors. so I caan't test any CWS build because then I don't know if the errors comes from the CWS build or from the system around. > What do you want more? see above I want to bein the position to test CWS Build (esp. coming from the Community which can't not all tested by Sun) and to decide the Build has no errors. all things are ok. The last example therefore is the CWS SQlSyntaxhighlightning. If there are nore things to clarify I suggest to do a short talk in German maybe on IRC. My capacity to describe it in English are limited Kind Regards Mechtilde --- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hello Thorsten, * Thorsten Ziehm schrieb: > Hi Mechtilde, > >> For example: In Quaste I can see that OOO310_m5 under Linux schows 14 >> errors and 27 warnings and the tests isn't finished yet. >> >> So indepently how many errors I found in a build of the buildbot I have >> to take much time ime to evalutate these errors. so I caan't test any >> CWS build because then I don't know if the errors comes from the CWS >> build or from the system around. > > When you check the results with QUASTe it doesn't will take so much time > since last week. QUASTe has a new feature, that you can check on one > page the differences between Master and CWS. On this page only the > differences are shown, this is different to the past. And this only works if Master *and* CWS use the same environment. Otherwise It isn't comparable. Or do I have the possibility to checkin as the result of a master build via buildbot as the results of a CWS build of a buildbot? Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] OpenOffice running on Windows 7
Hello Martin, *, Martin Hollmichel schrieb: > Hi, > > With the release of Windows 7 later this year we expect again a huge > amount of questions of our users if OpenOffice also runs on Windows 7. > To my knowledge OpenOffice.org (2.4.x, 3.0.x, 3.1.x) installs and runs > fine on Windows 7 RC. For that reason I suggest that we already add > Windows 7 to the list of supported platforms in the system requirements > (http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_30.html) and the > download pages. What happens with the system dialogs under Windows 7? Do we expect the similar problems as with Vista? > > I'm wondering which advanced efforts (integration of system dialogs, > desktop integration, etc) might already be ongoing or planned for > windows 7 ? Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Starting to learn Programming in Openoffice Basic.
Hello, trupti.bang...@pcil.in schrieb: > Dear Sir / Madam, > > How can i start with simple Program with OpenOffice Basic Language with > C/C ++ Compiler for Linux OS i.e Ubuntu. > What all things i need to install for starting programming in Open > Office Basic with database as MySQL. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-0439?l=en > > Kindly guide us. > > Awaiting for you reply > Regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] upcoming 3.2 branch off
hallo Martin H. Martin Hollmichel schrieb: > Hi Martin, > > > Based on the branch (OOO320) we will provide a Beta release as soon as > possible, please report any stopper issue for the beta release on the > releases list (tracking issue will be 104696), as well as for the 3.2 > final release (tracking issue will be 9). I guess you mean issue 104695 for blocker issues. I also nominate issue 104696 as a potential stopper for the Beta version. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)
Hello Eric, eric b schrieb: > Hi, > I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I think > this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does not > provide a good image ot your 'elections process'. > > Thanks in advance for the clarification There are more candidates asked for nominatiton than published at the lists. They are asked *before* publishing it to the lists. my 2 ct Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] openoffice....@fosdem 2010
Hello Juergen, *, Juergen Schmidt schrieb: > Hi, > > i just want o inform you that i have requested an OpenOffice.org stand > and again an OpenOffice.org Developer Room for the next FOSDEM, February > 2010 in Brussels. > > This is a pre announcement only because we are not finally accepted. The > final decision is expected at the end of November. > > But for both we will need help and the time is short as always. I plan to come to FOSDEM to help at the booth like last year. Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin für die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Ubuntu OO Extension Manager adding extension error
Hello,
need more information about version of OepnOffice.org and which
Extension you want to install
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Fabio A. Miranda schrieb:
> Hello,
>
> Anyone know what's the reason that a give .OXT works perfect with
> default OO installation but in Ubuntu OO 3.1 it reports an error:
>
> (com.sun.star.registry.CannotRegisterImplementationException)
> {{ Message="", Context = (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @0}}
>
> What is UNO trying to tell me ? As in this example, the message is
> empty, how can OO Extension Developer troubleshoot such error ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> fabio.
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Re: [dev] Are buildbot install sets current sufficient for QA ?
Hello Caola'n, Caola'n McNamara schrieb: > For a given cws, are install sets generated from our public buildbots > currently sufficient for Hamburg QA ? Or are there problems using them. > The Germanophone Community use the public buildbots for the QA of the vanilla builds And as I know Hamburg themselve do it also Kind regards Mechtilde -- Dipl. Ing. Mechtilde Stehmann ## http://de.openoffice.org ## Ansprechpartnerin fu"r die deutschsprachige QA ## Freie Office-Suite fu"r Linux, Mac, Windows, Solaris ## Meine Seite http://www.mechtilde.de ## PGP encryption welcome! Key-ID: 0x53B3892B signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[dev] Re: Programmierhandbuch für Basic
Hello Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: First of this is a English only mailing list Thank you for the tip. I choose the wrong adress from my Adressbook Aber nichtsdestotrotz danke für den Hinweis. Das scheint ein Übersetungsproblem zu sein und wir werden das überprüfen und korrigieren. Es gibt aber mittlererweile auch andere Bücher für Basic, eine Google-Suche sollte hier weiterhelfen. After I read the first fifty results of the google-search I only found one book for Starbasi 8.0 If you know a good one, please let me know. Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: MediaWiki and OpenOffice
Hello Mark Greenbank schrieb: > Hi, I noted in the announcement of the new release of OOo that there is an > OpenOffice to MediaWiki conversion feature. > > Does anyone know of a tool for going in the other direction (MediaWiki to > OpenOffice document)? Copy and paste Regards Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: OpenOffice Base
Hello, Horton, Dick (HRSA) schrieb: > I am very happy with the OpenOffice suite but am anxiously waiting for > the publication of the Base User's Guide. Do you have a projected > time frame as to when it might be released? Do you know this one? http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0110GS-GettingStartedWithBase.pdf Here you can find more links: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Database Regards Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Programmierhandbuch für Basic
Hallo, Hab mir mal des Programmierhandbuch für Basic (Staroffice 8) näher angeschaut, um mich mit Starbasic vertraut zu machen. Dabei hab ich festgestellt, dass in der deutschen Version in den Beispielprogrammen so gut wie alle Zeilenumbrüche falsch sind. In der englischen Version sind sie - so weit ich das beurteilen kann - richtig. Ich hab mir jetzt mal den deutschen Text heruntergeladen und mit den englischen Beispielprogrammen versehen. Da das meines Wissens die bisher einzige Dokumentation zu Starbasic für OOo 2.0 ist, finde ich es sehr schade, dass eine solche Dokumentation so fehlerhaft formatiert wird. Hier noch der Link: deutsch: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-1326?l=de englisch: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-0439?l=en Mechtilde Mechtilde - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Re: Taking over my files
Hello, How do you open your files? Do you do it with a double click? then try to do it with a right click and choose "open with". there you can choose the program you want to open the file with. Regards Mechtilde Am 27.05.2011 um 17:59 schrieb bishr...@aol.com: > Hi. > I think that Openoffice 3 is a great tool to many to have, but I already had > Microsoft Wood 2007 on my system and only downloaded Openoffice so that I > could read docs sent to me via Openoffice. > > My problem is that Open office seems to have taken over my word files, > question can I change this back to how it was? > > Best regards > Roger -- - To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
