Re: [dev] Additions to the Mac dmg download (X11 fix and Spotlight)

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Raymond



On 10/27/05 6:27 AM, "Stephan Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> 
>> Regular users don't need this window. Therefor I wrote a little
>> AppleScript witch disables the black window and I though that this was
>> something that a lot of other Mac-users could use too!
>> 
>> Therefor I suggest that the dmg download of OpenOffice.org 2.0 includes
>> this little app of mine witch disables the black window. It's just a
>> little something that you'll have to run once and that's it.
>> 
>> The AppleScript is as simple as the one you see below, but could be a
>> really useful tool to include in the download for a better user
>> experience for first time users.
>> 
>>> do shell script "perl -p -e 's/xterm &/# xterm &/'
>>> /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc > ~/.xinitrc"
>> 
>> This could be compiled to a little app.
>> 
> 
> You're right, the xterm window might be annoying, but potentially
> overwriting an existing .xinitrc in the user's home must be avoided.
> Additionally, you must tell the user what you're doing and providing a
> way to revert it - doing automatic changes to the system will definitely
> trigger discussions. As it was the case for the automatic font
> conversion that people don't like.
I want to backup that opinion as well. Especially since some people, like
myself have .xinitrc startup a couple of xterms along with a few other
things when X11 starts. That is a configuration with X11 and an application
install definitely shouldn't touch it automatically, the most I would do is
point to the utility in the distribution, potentially prompt if you want the
installer to run it.
 
> 
>> Another little thing that could really improve the whole OpenOffice
>> experience for Mac users would be to include the NeoLight Spotlight
>> indexer ( 
>> http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/spotlight/neolightneoofficespotlightimp
>> orter.html 
>> ) with the download.
>> 
> 
> This makes sense, but only if it can be put into CVS in order to have it
> automatically packed whenever an installation set is built. Everything
> that has to be manually packed will definitely get lost over time. So
> license issues have to be checked first.
> 
>> The last improvement suggestion would be to compress and wrap up the
>> whole dmg a little neater and have some instructions there too. A
>> suggestion below.
>> 
>>> http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/70/ooosuggestion2cp.png
>> 
> 
> This looks very professional, but brings up another important issue that
> is not fixed yet: string localization for the Mac launch application and
> custom packaging process. How did the strings find their way into your
> image ? The OOo localization process must be used here - hard coded
> strings in some scripts are not an option.
> 
> Stephan
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Re: [dev] Additions to the Mac dmg download (X11 fix and Spotlight)

2005-10-27 Thread Stephan Schaefer

Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:

Regular users don't need this window. Therefor I wrote a little 
AppleScript witch disables the black window and I though that this was 
something that a lot of other Mac-users could use too!


Therefor I suggest that the dmg download of OpenOffice.org 2.0 includes 
this little app of mine witch disables the black window. It's just a 
little something that you'll have to run once and that's it.


The AppleScript is as simple as the one you see below, but could be a 
really useful tool to include in the download for a better user 
experience for first time users.


do shell script "perl -p -e 's/xterm &/# xterm &/' 
/private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc > ~/.xinitrc"


This could be compiled to a little app.



You're right, the xterm window might be annoying, but potentially 
overwriting an existing .xinitrc in the user's home must be avoided. 
Additionally, you must tell the user what you're doing and providing a 
way to revert it - doing automatic changes to the system will definitely 
trigger discussions. As it was the case for the automatic font 
conversion that people don't like.


Another little thing that could really improve the whole OpenOffice 
experience for Mac users would be to include the NeoLight Spotlight 
indexer ( 
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/spotlight/neolightneoofficespotlightimporter.html 
) with the download.




This makes sense, but only if it can be put into CVS in order to have it 
automatically packed whenever an installation set is built. Everything 
that has to be manually packed will definitely get lost over time. So 
license issues have to be checked first.


The last improvement suggestion would be to compress and wrap up the 
whole dmg a little neater and have some instructions there too. A 
suggestion below.



http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/70/ooosuggestion2cp.png




This looks very professional, but brings up another important issue that 
is not fixed yet: string localization for the Mac launch application and 
custom packaging process. How did the strings find their way into your 
image ? The OOo localization process must be used here - hard coded 
strings in some scripts are not an option.


Stephan

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[dev] Additions to the Mac dmg download (X11 fix and Spotlight)

2005-10-27 Thread Daniel Aleksandersen

Hi,

when I downloaded and started to use the Mac OS X version of  
OpenOffice 2.0 I got really annoyed on it at first.


I quickly found out that I wasn't annoyed at OpenOffice, but at X11.  
There's a "bug" witch forces an empty command window to launch every  
single time OpenOffice (X11) is launched.


After a few minutes of searching the web for information about how I  
could prevent this window from opening, I soon realized that there  
wasn't a good solution for this out there. A also noticed that users  
said that they didn't use OpenOffice because of «that really annoying  
blank window».


Regular users don't need this window. Therefor I wrote a little  
AppleScript witch disables the black window and I though that this  
was something that a lot of other Mac-users could use too!


Therefor I suggest that the dmg download of OpenOffice.org 2.0  
includes this little app of mine witch disables the black window.  
It's just a little something that you'll have to run once and that's it.


The AppleScript is as simple as the one you see below, but could be a  
really useful tool to include in the download for a better user  
experience for first time users.


do shell script "perl -p -e 's/xterm &/# xterm &/' /private/etc/X11/ 
xinit/xinitrc > ~/.xinitrc"


This could be compiled to a little app.

Another little thing that could really improve the whole OpenOffice  
experience for Mac users would be to include the NeoLight Spotlight  
indexer ( http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/spotlight/ 
neolightneoofficespotlightimporter.html ) with the download.


The last improvement suggestion would be to compress and wrap up the  
whole dmg a little neater and have some instructions there too. A  
suggestion below.



http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/70/ooosuggestion2cp.png


Just contact me if some of this sounds interesting or if you don't  
understand a word of my english.

--
Daniel Aleksandersen, student, Norway
http://bonaveo.net/
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