Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Frank Meies

Hi Hung Nguyen Vu,

On 08/28/08 05:05, Hung Nguyen Vu wrote:


Where I can find the list of new features of OOo 3?


have a look here:

http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html

Hope this helps,

Frank

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Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
2008/8/28 Frank Meies [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Hung Nguyen Vu,

 On 08/28/08 05:05, Hung Nguyen Vu wrote:

 Where I can find the list of new features of OOo 3?

 have a look here:

 http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/featurelistbeta.html
Thanks. Exactly what I am looking for.

Is there any help on my second question?

Users do care about startup time( how long does it take to open OOo 3.0).
Actually someone has done that for 1.x vs. 2.0. but I didn't find
anything for 3.0
http://www.oooninja.com/2008/05/responses-to-is-openofficeorg-getting.html



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Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Whitaker

Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

Users do care about startup time( how long does it take to open OOo 3.0).
Actually someone has done that for 1.x vs. 2.0. but I didn't find
anything for 3.0
http://www.oooninja.com/2008/05/responses-to-is-openofficeorg-getting.html


Unfortunately, the dominant factor in how long it takes OOo to startup seems to 
be how fast the user's system responds to DNS queries, not on which OOo version 
they are using. See


http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=81345highlight=openoffice+startup

for a discussion of this issue (and various workrounds).

I suspect that most of the people who complain that OOo is really slow to start 
up are suffering from this issue, so won't see any improvements made in the OOo 
code base.


Martin

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Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
2008/8/28 Martin Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

 Users do care about startup time( how long does it take to open OOo 3.0).
 Actually someone has done that for 1.x vs. 2.0. but I didn't find
 anything for 3.0
 http://www.oooninja.com/2008/05/responses-to-is-openofficeorg-getting.html


 Unfortunately, the dominant factor in how long it takes OOo to startup
 seems to be how fast the user's system responds to DNS queries, not on which
 OOo version they are using. See


 http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=81345highlight=openoffice+startup

 for a discussion of this issue (and various workrounds).

 I suspect that most of the people who complain that OOo is really slow to
 start up are suffering from this issue, so won't see any improvements made
 in the OOo code base.

Interesting!

This is one of the factor that affects the startup time of OOo.

IMHO, checking DNS or connecting to Internet at start is not a good thing to
do.
Users can do that later for they want to check for version update, cliparts
or something.
We should do it with users' acknowledgment, i.e, simply popups a windows and
ask
if OOo can connect to the Internet.

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Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
 IMHO, checking DNS or connecting to Internet at start is not a good thing to 
 do.
 Users can do that later for they want to check for version update, cliparts
 or something.

I think the DNS lookups occur because it (unintentionally?) looks up the 
machine's name from DNS, or something like that. Wasn't that what the Mandriva 
bug report earlier linked to from this thread talked about? If the machine's 
name service APIs then don't recognize its own name without DNS lookups, you 
might get delays.

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Re: [dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-28 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
2008/8/28 Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  IMHO, checking DNS or connecting to Internet at start is not a good thing
 to do.
  Users can do that later for they want to check for version update,
 cliparts
  or something.

 I think the DNS lookups occur because it (unintentionally?) looks up the
 machine's name from DNS, or something like that. Wasn't that what the
 Mandriva bug report earlier linked to from this thread talked about? If the
 machine's name service APIs then don't recognize its own name without DNS
 lookups, you might get delays.

Sorry, I misread that.

I consider this a *bug* than a feature. We can't predict name resolving
time, and as reported,
it may takes 20-30 seconds for name resolving. We can do name resolving on
demand.

# Someone posted a quick fix using /etc/hosts
#
http://divinecode.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/openoffice-slow-startup-in-x86_64/

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[dev] OOo 3 new features and performance speedup

2008-08-27 Thread Hung Nguyen Vu
Hi all,

Where I can find the list of new features of OOo 3?
And if possible, a benchmark versus 2.4?

An on par comparison with The Other Office Suites will be nice
but I don't think it is the right time to do so.

# FYI, OOo 3 release notes has no information I am looking for
# http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease30

# OOo Ninja has listed some new features of OOo 3 *BETA*
# but it is quite out of date and not official.

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