Re: [OSM-dev] Karlsruhe Hack Weekend, 23-24 Feb

[Gregory]

On 5 January 2013 15:12, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> PS: If you miss this one don't worry - we'll likely have two more in 2013.
>
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Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof.

This year I'm really trying to improve my German towards tourist-level, and
then find some reasons(not hard) to make trips to Germany. I don't think it
will happen for February, but maybe later in the year.
Although I won't be able to contribute to conversations in German about
mapping and developing. I probably need to encourage some other
internationals to make a trip for a hack weekend, or I'll just be the
annoying Brit sitting in the corner.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Karlsruhe Hack Weekend, 23-24 Feb

[Jochen Topf]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:18:03PM +, Gregory wrote:
> On 5 January 2013 15:12, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > PS: If you miss this one don't worry - we'll likely have two more in 2013.
> >
> > --
> 
> Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof.
> 
> This year I'm really trying to improve my German towards tourist-level, and
> then find some reasons(not hard) to make trips to Germany. I don't think it
> will happen for February, but maybe later in the year.
> Although I won't be able to contribute to conversations in German about
> mapping and developing. I probably need to encourage some other
> internationals to make a trip for a hack weekend, or I'll just be the
> annoying Brit sitting in the corner.

You definitely don't have to speak German to come to the hack weekend. Almost
everbody there will be more or less fluent in English. And if you are working
on some interesting hacking project people will want to talk to you, so you
are unlikely to end up in a corner. :-)

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Re: [OSM-dev] Snapshot Server

[Andy Allan]

On 28 December 2012 05:52, Paul Norman  wrote:
> Readme.md for snapshot-server is not quite accurate. I’ve got an updated
> readme at https://github.com/pnorman/snapshot-server/blob/patch-3/README.md
> that covers enabling PostGIS and hstore but Andy hasn’t had time to update
> upstream.

I've updated the readme, and there's actually a chance now that you
could get it installed. I've tested the instructions on a VM, but of
course feedback is welcome. I've gone for the route that involves the
least typing, so rake db:create will sort out all the postgis-related
things for you.

Rob, did you manage to get your snapshot-server instance up and
running in the end?

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-dev] Snapshot Server

[Rob Nickerson]

Thanks.

I got it up and running but was struggling to load some data. Can't
quite remember the error message but I'm hoping to get to look at it
again this weekend (tho time is an issue).

RobJN

On 8 Jan 2013, at 16:32, Andy Allan  wrote:

> On 28 December 2012 05:52, Paul Norman  wrote:
>> Readme.md for snapshot-server is not quite accurate. I’ve got an u
>> pdated
>> readme at https://github.com/pnorman/snapshot-server/blob/patch-3/README.md
>> that covers enabling PostGIS and hstore but Andy hasn’t had time t
>> o update
>> upstream.
>
> I've updated the readme, and there's actually a chance now that you
> could get it installed. I've tested the instructions on a VM, but of
> course feedback is welcome. I've gone for the route that involves the
> least typing, so rake db:create will sort out all the postgis-related
> things for you.
>
> Rob, did you manage to get your snapshot-server instance up and
> running in the end?
>
> Cheers,
> Andy

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Re: [OSM-dev] Snapshot Server

[Andy Allan]

On 8 January 2013 17:28, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> I got it up and running but was struggling to load some data. Can't
> quite remember the error message but I'm hoping to get to look at it
> again this weekend (tho time is an issue).

Do you know offhand how big your .osm files are? I know that for giant
projects, nothing will beat the osmosis loading method that we have
now. But I'm wondering if it's worthwhile building a mechanism into
the web frontend that can handle smaller files a bit more easily, by
just uploading the file to the site. The files I had for the original
cycling data project were about 0.25 - 4.0 Mb in size but I know the
stuff Paul has been wrangling are closer to gigabytes.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-dev] Snapshot Server

[Rob Nickerson]

A web based loading screen would be a big plus for me.
I had a quick look and found a 5mb shapefile. I would imagine 10mb is
probably the largest I have. Not sure how that converts to .osm filesize.

Rob


On 8 January 2013 17:35, Andy Allan  wrote:

> On 8 January 2013 17:28, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> > Thanks.
> >
> > I got it up and running but was struggling to load some data. Can't
> > quite remember the error message but I'm hoping to get to look at it
> > again this weekend (tho time is an issue).
>
> Do you know offhand how big your .osm files are? I know that for giant
> projects, nothing will beat the osmosis loading method that we have
> now. But I'm wondering if it's worthwhile building a mechanism into
> the web frontend that can handle smaller files a bit more easily, by
> just uploading the file to the site. The files I had for the original
> cycling data project were about 0.25 - 4.0 Mb in size but I know the
> stuff Paul has been wrangling are closer to gigabytes.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
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Re: [OSM-dev] Snapshot Server

[Paul Norman]

On 2013-01-08, at 12:59 PM, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> 
> A web based loading screen would be a big plus for me. 
> I had a quick look and found a 5mb shapefile. I would imagine 10mb is 
> probably the largest I have. Not sure how that converts to .osm filesize. 
> 
> Rob

It can vary greatly by the type of shapefile and what data you drop but for a 
31M building file I got a 155M output .osm. As a snapshot DB it'll be 2x-3x 
larger.

This would make your shapefile 25M as .osm and about 60M of database space.

Just for reference, the largest single .osm I've had ogr2osm generate was 25G 
and I'm looking at applications that involve planet-sized amounts of data 
across multiple files.

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[OSM-dev] CORS on the Wiki

[Tom MacWright]

Hey all (and especially Grant & Jochen),

So, the iD editor has this nice 'reference pane' which shows tag/value
summaries from TagInfo, if available. TagInfo also provides thumbnails for
these combos in the form File:Foo. Unfortunately that doesn't map to a real
URL (by design). There's an API to get at the contents, like


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=imageinfo&titles=Image:Residential.jpg&iiprop=url|content&format=xml

But this doesn't support CORS. It doesn't look like MediaWiki supports CORS
at this point ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9718/ ), so either we're
looking at implementing this on a server-level in Apache, having TagInfo
expose actual image URLs, or implementing it in MediaWiki.

Any other thoughts here? I obviously am unable to mess with server
configuration of wiki.openstreetmap.org, but if, for instance, patching
MediaWiki would do the trick, I can probably do that.

Tom
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Re: [OSM-dev] CORS on the Wiki

[Katie Filbert]

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Tom MacWright  wrote:

> Hey all (and especially Grant & Jochen),
>
> So, the iD editor has this nice 'reference pane' which shows tag/value
> summaries from TagInfo, if available. TagInfo also provides thumbnails for
> these combos in the form File:Foo. Unfortunately that doesn't map to a real
> URL (by design). There's an API to get at the contents, like
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=imageinfo&titles=Image:Residential.jpg&iiprop=url|content&format=xml
>
> But this doesn't support CORS. It doesn't look like MediaWiki supports
> CORS at this point ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9718/ ), so
> either we're looking at implementing this on a server-level in Apache,
> having TagInfo expose actual image URLs, or implementing it in MediaWiki.
>
> Any other thoughts here? I obviously am unable to mess with server
> configuration of wiki.openstreetmap.org, but if, for instance, patching
> MediaWiki would do the trick, I can probably do that.
>

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCrossSiteAJAXdomains ?

Cheers,
Katie

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Re: [OSM-dev] CORS on the Wiki

[Tom MacWright]

Ah, wait! It supports JSONP, I'm a fool:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=imageinfo&titles=Image:Residential.jpg&iiprop=url%7Ccontent&format=json&callback=foo

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Katie Filbert  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Tom MacWright  wrote:
>
>> Hey all (and especially Grant & Jochen),
>>
>> So, the iD editor has this nice 'reference pane' which shows tag/value
>> summaries from TagInfo, if available. TagInfo also provides thumbnails for
>> these combos in the form File:Foo. Unfortunately that doesn't map to a real
>> URL (by design). There's an API to get at the contents, like
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=imageinfo&titles=Image:Residential.jpg&iiprop=url|content&format=xml
>>
>> But this doesn't support CORS. It doesn't look like MediaWiki supports
>> CORS at this point ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9718/ ), so
>> either we're looking at implementing this on a server-level in Apache,
>> having TagInfo expose actual image URLs, or implementing it in MediaWiki.
>>
>> Any other thoughts here? I obviously am unable to mess with server
>> configuration of wiki.openstreetmap.org, but if, for instance, patching
>> MediaWiki would do the trick, I can probably do that.
>>
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCrossSiteAJAXdomains ?
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
>>
>> Tom
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[OSM-dev] iD Meeting on Thursday

[Tom MacWright]

Hi All,

This thursday at 11pm EST, we're planning on huddling in the #ideditor
channel (on irc.oftc.net) as well as on Skype to talk about where we're at
& going with the iD editor project. We'll have John, Ansis, Saman, and Alex
around and also be on Skype for doing voice.

If you're new to the idea of iD, here's a recent post about the alpha0
release: http://mapbox.com/osmdev/2012/12/22/alpha0/

Please join in if you'd like to hear & contribute!

Tom
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Re: [OSM-dev] iD Meeting on Thursday

[Svavar Kjarrval]

Would be nice to participate but I'm not a fan of attending meetings 4
o'clock in the morning (GMT+0). Will there be a chatlog available
afterwards?

- Svavar Kjarrval

On 08/01/13 23:29, Tom MacWright wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This thursday at 11pm EST, we're planning on huddling in the #ideditor
> channel (on irc.oftc.net ) as well as on Skype to
> talk about where we're at & going with the iD editor project. We'll
> have John, Ansis, Saman, and Alex around and also be on Skype for
> doing voice.
>
> If you're new to the idea of iD, here's a recent post about the alpha0
> release: http://mapbox.com/osmdev/2012/12/22/alpha0/
>
> Please join in if you'd like to hear & contribute!
>
> Tom
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Re: [OSM-dev] iD Meeting on Thursday

[Tom MacWright]

Hey,

Definitely. 11 is our shot at making this work for both Pacific time and
London, but it's hard to hit every zone. If you want to drop into #ideditor
any other time, we're usually there 9-6EST at least.

Tom

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Svavar Kjarrval  wrote:

>  Would be nice to participate but I'm not a fan of attending meetings 4
> o'clock in the morning (GMT+0). Will there be a chatlog available
> afterwards?
>
> - Svavar Kjarrval
>
>
> On 08/01/13 23:29, Tom MacWright wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>  This thursday at 11pm EST, we're planning on huddling in the #ideditor
> channel (on irc.oftc.net) as well as on Skype to talk about where we're
> at & going with the iD editor project. We'll have John, Ansis, Saman, and
> Alex around and also be on Skype for doing voice.
>
>  If you're new to the idea of iD, here's a recent post about the alpha0
> release: http://mapbox.com/osmdev/2012/12/22/alpha0/
>
> Please join in if you'd like to hear & contribute!
>
>  Tom
>
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