[DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi folks!

Gurkan and I had a small chat yesterday about the stability of OpenWebBeans. 
And 
we both agree that it really would deserve a 1.0.0 number because it's pretty 
stable. At least a lot more stable than many commercial products with a 1.0 
release number ;)

I have to verify 2 smaller issues (1st about multiple qualifiers, 2nd about 
thread safety in our AbstractContext under heavy load) which I like to write 
test cases for before the release. But both should be doable until end of next 
week.
So my schedule would be to start the build on Aug. 20th.


WDYT?

There is no hurry to change large blocks now since we will do releases every 
1-2 
month or so.

LieGrue,
strub



  


Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

2010-08-10 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
+1 


Thanks;


--Gurkan



From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:37:21 AM
Subject: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

Hi folks!

Gurkan and I had a small chat yesterday about the stability of OpenWebBeans. 
And 

we both agree that it really would deserve a 1.0.0 number because it's pretty 
stable. At least a lot more stable than many commercial products with a 1.0 
release number ;)

I have to verify 2 smaller issues (1st about multiple qualifiers, 2nd about 
thread safety in our AbstractContext under heavy load) which I like to write 
test cases for before the release. But both should be doable until end of next 
week.
So my schedule would be to start the build on Aug. 20th.


WDYT?

There is no hurry to change large blocks now since we will do releases every 
1-2 

month or so.

LieGrue,
strub



Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

2010-08-10 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hi folks!

 Gurkan and I had a small chat yesterday about the stability of OpenWebBeans. 
 And
 we both agree that it really would deserve a 1.0.0 number because it's pretty
 stable. At least a lot more stable than many commercial products with a 1.0
 release number ;)

+1, I hope to work on BDA awareness in the scanner service /
{Bean,Alternatives,Interceptor}Manager stuff and I don't want to
derail 1.0 with it!

Would we branch at 1.0, and would 1.0 still be CTR?


-- 
Eric Covener
cove...@gmail.com


Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Struberg
Thanks Eric, but please make this available as alternate implementation only. 
Because I honestly think the BDA definition is utterly broken in the spec (*)! 
It makes assumptions about classloading mechanisms which are _most_ times true 
for _old_ EE containers but is a) NOT defined in the EE spec and b) is NOT true 
for modern EE containers anymore (which heavily use OSGi under the hood).

I honestly believe that the mechanisms we have currently does suite 
professional 
needs much better than this overly strict BDA stuff does. And we _still_ pass 
the TCK, so there is imo nothing to worry yet!

LieGrue,
strub

(*) marking a JAR (if available) as containing jars is really fine. And with 
Pete having added CDATA sections to the schema recently, we could now also add 
our own namespaced exclude and include rules to beans.xml for speeding up the 
classpath scanning. This is really neat.
BUT there are a few heavily broken thinkgs in the BDA part of the spec. A few 
examples: 

.) having to write  alternatives into EACH BDA where it should be active is 
just idiotic
.) same for interceptors
.) same for decorators



- Original Message 
 From: Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:56:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?
 
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
  Hi  folks!
 
  Gurkan and I had a small chat yesterday about the  stability of 
  OpenWebBeans. 
And
  we both agree that it really would  deserve a 1.0.0 number because it's 
pretty
  stable. At least a lot more  stable than many commercial products with a 1.0
  release number  ;)
 
 +1, I hope to work on BDA awareness in the scanner service  /
 {Bean,Alternatives,Interceptor}Manager stuff and I don't want to
 derail  1.0 with it!
 
 Would we branch at 1.0, and would 1.0 still be  CTR?
 
 
 -- 
 Eric Covener
 cove...@gmail.com
 


  


Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?

2010-08-10 Thread Gerhard
+1

i would like to commit at least the current version of OWB-407 (if there are
no objections).

regards,
gerhard

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2010/8/10 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de

 Thanks Eric, but please make this available as alternate implementation
 only.
 Because I honestly think the BDA definition is utterly broken in the spec
 (*)!
 It makes assumptions about classloading mechanisms which are _most_ times
 true
 for _old_ EE containers but is a) NOT defined in the EE spec and b) is NOT
 true
 for modern EE containers anymore (which heavily use OSGi under the hood).

 I honestly believe that the mechanisms we have currently does suite
 professional
 needs much better than this overly strict BDA stuff does. And we _still_
 pass
 the TCK, so there is imo nothing to worry yet!

 LieGrue,
 strub

 (*) marking a JAR (if available) as containing jars is really fine. And
 with
 Pete having added CDATA sections to the schema recently, we could now also
 add
 our own namespaced exclude and include rules to beans.xml for speeding up
 the
 classpath scanning. This is really neat.
 BUT there are a few heavily broken thinkgs in the BDA part of the spec. A
 few
 examples:

 .) having to write  alternatives into EACH BDA where it should be active
 is
 just idiotic
 .) same for interceptors
 .) same for decorators



 - Original Message 
  From: Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:56:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] releasing owb-1.0.0 next week?
 
  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 wrote:
   Hi  folks!
  
   Gurkan and I had a small chat yesterday about the  stability of
 OpenWebBeans.
 And
   we both agree that it really would  deserve a 1.0.0 number because it's
 pretty
   stable. At least a lot more  stable than many commercial products with
 a 1.0
   release number  ;)
 
  +1, I hope to work on BDA awareness in the scanner service  /
  {Bean,Alternatives,Interceptor}Manager stuff and I don't want to
  derail  1.0 with it!
 
  Would we branch at 1.0, and would 1.0 still be  CTR?
 
 
  --
  Eric Covener
  cove...@gmail.com