[CANCEL][VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi Based on the result of the discussion I cancel this Vote and will redo with kickstart. - Andy
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
I'll also toss in a -1 for quickstart and +1 for kickstart. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 4:00 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:55 AM Robert Munteanu wrote: > > ...I am "voting" -0.5, as in "I don't think this is the way to go, but I > > don't see this as a big enough problem to veto the vote"... > > +1 to Robert's -0.5 ;-) > > I would prefer a different name and I find "kickstart" slightly better > that "quickstart" but if people are fine with it I'm not opposed. > > -Bertrand >
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:55 AM Robert Munteanu wrote: > ...I am "voting" -0.5, as in "I don't think this is the way to go, but I > don't see this as a big enough problem to veto the vote"... +1 to Robert's -0.5 ;-) I would prefer a different name and I find "kickstart" slightly better that "quickstart" but if people are fine with it I'm not opposed. -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi Carsten, On Wed, 2020-02-05 at 10:38 -0800, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Many things are named quickstart, for example bnd uses the term as > well. > I personally don't think that this is a problem, as the term > "quickstart" is always used in a context, being it Sling, Adobe, bnd > etc. Agreed. The reason why I seconded Bertrand's point is that AEM and Sling are quite closely tied. Hence the potential for confusion. > > If we think that quickstart is confusing, than I think kickstart or > cloudstart are confusing as well. Quickstart ties AEM and Sling together, but kickstart and cloudstart do not. > > This vote thread proposes quickstart - so we should not change the > name > while voting. So we have two options: > - either we continue with the proposed name and go with it unless > someone votes -1 > - we stop the vote thread, discuss for another two weeks which name > we > should pick and then restart the vote thread with that name I'm not saying to discuss for two weeks :-) but I'm also not voting -1. I am "voting" -0.5, as in "I don't think this is the way to go, but I don't see this as a big enough problem to veto the vote". Robert > > > Carsten > > On 05.02.2020 08:15, Andreas Schaefer wrote: > > Hi > > > > As an motorbike driver I would suggest “kickstart” as the name > > making it: > > > > - sling-kickstart > > - sling-kickstart-maven-plugin > > > > Let me know if that works and I’ll adjust the Whiteboard > > > > - Andy > > > > > On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > > > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ruben Reusser > > > wrote: > > > > how about crankstart, cloudstart or jumpstart?... > > > > > > Crankstart was already used for a previous experimental launcher. > > > > > > The other ones work for me. > > > > > > I think we should let Andy decide on a name, considering how much > > > work > > > he's put into this! > > > > > > -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Many things are named quickstart, for example bnd uses the term as well. I personally don't think that this is a problem, as the term "quickstart" is always used in a context, being it Sling, Adobe, bnd etc. If we think that quickstart is confusing, than I think kickstart or cloudstart are confusing as well. This vote thread proposes quickstart - so we should not change the name while voting. So we have two options: - either we continue with the proposed name and go with it unless someone votes -1 - we stop the vote thread, discuss for another two weeks which name we should pick and then restart the vote thread with that name Carsten On 05.02.2020 08:15, Andreas Schaefer wrote: Hi As an motorbike driver I would suggest “kickstart” as the name making it: - sling-kickstart - sling-kickstart-maven-plugin Let me know if that works and I’ll adjust the Whiteboard - Andy On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ruben Reusser wrote: how about crankstart, cloudstart or jumpstart?... Crankstart was already used for a previous experimental launcher. The other ones work for me. I think we should let Andy decide on a name, considering how much work he's put into this! -Bertrand -- -- Carsten Ziegeler Adobe Research Switzerland cziege...@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi As an motorbike driver I would suggest “kickstart” as the name making it: - sling-kickstart - sling-kickstart-maven-plugin Let me know if that works and I’ll adjust the Whiteboard - Andy > On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ruben Reusser wrote: >> >> how about crankstart, cloudstart or jumpstart?... > > Crankstart was already used for a previous experimental launcher. > > The other ones work for me. > > I think we should let Andy decide on a name, considering how much work > he's put into this! > > -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:32 PM Ruben Reusser wrote: > > how about crankstart, cloudstart or jumpstart?... Crankstart was already used for a previous experimental launcher. The other ones work for me. I think we should let Andy decide on a name, considering how much work he's put into this! -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
how about crankstart, cloudstart or jumpstart? On 2/5/2020 1:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 10:12 AM Robert Munteanu wrote: ...First all all - thanks Andy for your persistence Indeed, I think we owe Andy multiple beverages-of-his-choice! ...I see some confusion potential where people would be applying AEM quickstart knowledge to the Sling quickstart and vice-versa... Yes that's what I meant, I'm not worried about trademarks but avoiding possible confusing is helpful. -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 10:12 AM Robert Munteanu wrote: > ...First all all - thanks Andy for your persistence Indeed, I think we owe Andy multiple beverages-of-his-choice! > ...I see some confusion potential where people would be applying AEM > quickstart knowledge to the Sling quickstart and vice-versa... Yes that's what I meant, I'm not worried about trademarks but avoiding possible confusing is helpful. -Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi, On Wed, 2020-02-05 at 09:54 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 1:19 AM Andreas Schaefer > wrote: > > ...This is a vote to promote the sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart > > and > > sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Module... First all all - thanks Andy for your persistence. This is taking quite a long time, but I am sure that in the end we'll get to the best solution. > > I'm sorry if I missed a discussion about this name change (can't see > it in this list's archives) but I'm not sure if "quickstart" is a > good > component name. > > The Adobe product based on Sling has been using "quickstart" as the > name of its startup jar for ages (*). I agree it's a somewhat common > name but there's potential for confusion. > > If others agree that this is a problem I'd prefer a different name, > here's my (9AM before coffee) brainstorm for names that we have IIRC > not used in the past for this: launcher, launch, ballista, catapult, > crossbow, bootstrap Indeed, this raised a flag for me, but I was unable to find a better name. Quickstart is indeed perfectly suited for my (admittedly biased) mind. Launchpad was nice as well, but that's what we get for burning through implementations :-) I see some confusion potential where people would be applying AEM quickstart knowledge to the Sling quickstart and vice-versa. I think your list is a good start, adding some potential options as well: quicklaunch, trebuchet, runway, blastoff, takeoff, liftoff, kickoff, spawn, fling. Thanks, Robert > > -Bertrand > > (*) since my younger self wrote the first version of that actually ;- > )
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi, On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 1:19 AM Andreas Schaefer wrote: > ...This is a vote to promote the sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart and > sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Module... I'm sorry if I missed a discussion about this name change (can't see it in this list's archives) but I'm not sure if "quickstart" is a good component name. The Adobe product based on Sling has been using "quickstart" as the name of its startup jar for ages (*). I agree it's a somewhat common name but there's potential for confusion. If others agree that this is a problem I'd prefer a different name, here's my (9AM before coffee) brainstorm for names that we have IIRC not used in the past for this: launcher, launch, ballista, catapult, crossbow, bootstrap -Bertrand (*) since my younger self wrote the first version of that actually ;-)
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
+1 On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 03:21, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > +1 > > Carsten > > On 04.02.2020 16:19, Andreas Schaefer wrote: > > Hi > > > > This is a vote to promote the sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart and > sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Module. This first module > is the Feature Model counterpart of the sling-org-apache-sling-starter and > will create an executable JAR file. The second is the counterpart of the > sling-slingstart-maven-plugin which will start and stop a Sling Instance > from a Maven run and is mostly used to run Integration Tests. > > > > Sling Quickstart: > > > > 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under > 'sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart` folder > > 2. Proposed Github Repo name (I just added feature into the name): > > - sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart > > 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) > > - org.apache.sling.quickstart > > > > Sling Start Feature Maven Plugin: > > > > 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under > ‘sling-quickstart-maven-plugin` folder > > 2. Proposed Github Repo names (I just added feature into the name): > > - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin > > 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) > > - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin > > > > I created a sample project to showcase how the quickstart and quickstart > maven plugin will be used: https://github.com/schaefa/sling-fm-sample > > > > - Andy > > > > -- > -- > Carsten Ziegeler > Adobe Research Switzerland > cziege...@apache.org >
Re: [VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
+1 Carsten On 04.02.2020 16:19, Andreas Schaefer wrote: Hi This is a vote to promote the sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart and sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Module. This first module is the Feature Model counterpart of the sling-org-apache-sling-starter and will create an executable JAR file. The second is the counterpart of the sling-slingstart-maven-plugin which will start and stop a Sling Instance from a Maven run and is mostly used to run Integration Tests. Sling Quickstart: 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under 'sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart` folder 2. Proposed Github Repo name (I just added feature into the name): - sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) - org.apache.sling.quickstart Sling Start Feature Maven Plugin: 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under ‘sling-quickstart-maven-plugin` folder 2. Proposed Github Repo names (I just added feature into the name): - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin I created a sample project to showcase how the quickstart and quickstart maven plugin will be used: https://github.com/schaefa/sling-fm-sample - Andy -- -- Carsten Ziegeler Adobe Research Switzerland cziege...@apache.org
[VOTE] Promote sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart / sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Modules
Hi This is a vote to promote the sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart and sling-quickstart-maven-plugin to their own Sling Module. This first module is the Feature Model counterpart of the sling-org-apache-sling-starter and will create an executable JAR file. The second is the counterpart of the sling-slingstart-maven-plugin which will start and stop a Sling Instance from a Maven run and is mostly used to run Integration Tests. Sling Quickstart: 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under 'sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart` folder 2. Proposed Github Repo name (I just added feature into the name): - sling-org-apache-sling-quickstart 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) - org.apache.sling.quickstart Sling Start Feature Maven Plugin: 1. Code Location: both are in the ‘sling-whiteboard’ under ‘sling-quickstart-maven-plugin` folder 2. Proposed Github Repo names (I just added feature into the name): - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin 3. Proposed artifact ids (group id: org.apache.sling) - sling-quickstart-maven-plugin I created a sample project to showcase how the quickstart and quickstart maven plugin will be used: https://github.com/schaefa/sling-fm-sample - Andy
