RE: Question to the PMC

2011-04-15 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Newton
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:01
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: Question to the PMC
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jason Pyeron 
>  wrote:
> > Our office is agressivly scratching some itches right now 
> with regards 
> > to struts. We will be opening a ticket for each patch / 
> issue. But I 
> > am afriad that the lag between adoption of the patches will cause a 
> > build up of deltas against the committed code. I think this 
> was a type 
> > of issue to justify git. So what I would like to know is if 
> we (um, I) 
> > could get a small slice under sandbox to commit patches to, 
> which then 
> > if adopted, be merged. Issues will still be submitted to jira.
> >
> > This would allow development to proceded for us with out 
> making anyone go crazy.
> 
> I think it's unlikely there would be a lot of overlap, 
> really. I think repo access would require a CLA (don't know 

I am pretty sure we have filled out one of these in years gone by for another
apache project, but it is not difficult to send in another one.

http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt


> though). I doubt too many patches would be neglected for any 
> length of time that'd cause a real issue; I feel a commit 
> urge coming on.

Control your urges, you're in public.



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RE: Question to the PMC

2011-04-15 Thread Jason Pyeron

> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:wsm...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:57
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> Subject: Re: Question to the PMC
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jason Pyeron 
>  wrote:
> > Our office is agressivly scratching some itches right now 
> with regards 
> > to struts. We will be opening a ticket for each patch / 
> issue. But I 
> > am afriad that the lag between adoption of the patches will cause a 
> > build up of deltas against the committed code. I think this 
> was a type of issue to justify git.
> 
> Have you seen the git mirrors?  I see Struts listed, but I'm 
> not sure exactly what's there or whether it would be useful:
> http://git.apache.org/ . Out to the right there's a link to github.
> 
> Commit access to svn usually comes after submitting patches 
> and participating for a while.  Though I understand the git 
> philosophy is different, we don't yet have canonical git 

Not advocating a git philospohy, and I understand the participating for a while
concept too. Agreeably I have not been as active as others in terms of output.

I have a team that is going to be working on a large project using struts, our
internal time line will be in hours not days or weeks and I want to avoid a
private forked copy of struts. I think it would be unreasonable to ask the
struts devs to take monolithic patches, and I think it would be too much to ask
my devs to fork from trunk for each fix, and then merge it into a private fork. 

I feel the win win would be to not have a private fork, and not create a
situation where there would be a monolithic patch.

> repos at Apache.  (Some people are working on it, and 
> apparently there's a way for committers to use git but write 
> through to svn.  There is some info here:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/git.html )




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Re: Question to the PMC

2011-04-15 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jason Pyeron  wrote:
> Our office is agressivly scratching some itches right now with regards to
> struts. We will be opening a ticket for each patch / issue. But I am afriad 
> that
> the lag between adoption of the patches will cause a build up of deltas 
> against
> the committed code. I think this was a type of issue to justify git.

Have you seen the git mirrors?  I see Struts listed, but I'm not sure
exactly what's there or whether it would be useful:
http://git.apache.org/ . Out to the right there's a link to github.

Commit access to svn usually comes after submitting patches and
participating for a while.  Though I understand the git philosophy is
different, we don't yet have canonical git repos at Apache.  (Some
people are working on it, and apparently there's a way for committers
to use git but write through to svn.  There is some info here:
http://www.apache.org/dev/git.html )

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Re: Question to the PMC

2011-04-15 Thread Dave Newton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jason Pyeron  wrote:
> Our office is agressivly scratching some itches right now with regards to
> struts. We will be opening a ticket for each patch / issue. But I am afriad 
> that
> the lag between adoption of the patches will cause a build up of deltas 
> against
> the committed code. I think this was a type of issue to justify git. So what I
> would like to know is if we (um, I) could get a small slice under sandbox to
> commit patches to, which then if adopted, be merged. Issues will still be
> submitted to jira.
>
> This would allow development to proceded for us with out making anyone go 
> crazy.

I think it's unlikely there would be a lot of overlap, really. I think
repo access would require a CLA (don't know though). I doubt too many
patches would be neglected for any length of time that'd cause a real
issue; I feel a commit urge coming on.

Dave

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