Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
> I just read an article [1] saying that IBM saved a significant > amount of money thanks to the fact that they partially switched > to Macs from PCs. Depending on the perspective, saving money could still be considered a sin. -- Nathan GPG: 42AD 5FB1 4EC0 4AF7 0457 D9B8 5F3E 4106 A182 2BB5 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
I have never been able to have my Linux client access folders and files shared under Mac OS X Samba server. Apple replaced Samba with SMBX, their home-cooked application for Windows File Sharing. By default, it also doesn't do much logging. If you want to review logs, you'll have to edit the launchd item. What a pain. -A. On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 09:54:04PM +0200, lukáš Hozda wrote: Hello suckless folks, I am not very familiar with the usage of mailing lists and unsure whether this is the right place to post this request, but just like the title says, I am collecting the sins of Apple. I will be having a speech/presentation on problems of Apple the next week at my school where I plan to talk about the wrongs against people and sane software Apple has on account. I share the passion for C and ingenious, simple, concise and fair software and have been reading everything in dev and hackers mailing lists for a few months, which inspired me to ask you, sane guys, who seem to have a similar view on software and computers as I do, but have much more experience and skill in the field, for some input as well. Do you know about some bad things Apple has done in their pursuit of ever-increasing profits? Do you know about ways Apple is against free and open-source software? Please let me know. Naturally, if you know about some good deeds of Apple, I accept them as well. In return I will include everyone who shares some information in the sources and briefly mention the great suckless community as well. Thanks in advance, Lukáš P.S: If this is indeed the wrong place to post this or it doesn't belong here for one reason or another, I am sincerely sorry and in that case, please ignore this post/mail.
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
https://stallman.org/apple.html
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
lukáš Hozda wrote: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/operating-systems/osx/ http://aiju.de/rant/os/osx > Hello suckless folks, > > I am not very familiar with the usage of mailing lists and unsure > whether this is the right place to post this request, but just like > the title says, I am collecting the sins of Apple. I will be having a > speech/presentation on problems of Apple the next week at my school > where I plan to talk about the wrongs against people and sane software > Apple has on account. > > I share the passion for C and ingenious, simple, concise and fair > software and have been reading everything in dev and hackers mailing > lists for a few months, which inspired me to ask you, sane guys, who > seem to have a similar view on software and computers as I do, but > have much more experience and skill in the field, for some input as > well. > > Do you know about some bad things Apple has done in their pursuit of > ever-increasing profits? Do you know about ways Apple is against free > and open-source software? Please let me know. Naturally, if you know > about some good deeds of Apple, I accept them as well. > > In return I will include everyone who shares some information in the > sources and briefly mention the great suckless community as well. > > Thanks in advance, > Lukáš > > P.S: If this is indeed the wrong place to post this or it doesn't > belong here for one reason or another, I am sincerely sorry and in > that case, please ignore this post/mail.
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
One of the biggest failures they have, is they're unable to develop their own OS/Software by themselves, see their source tree[0], it's just GNU utils, BSD utils, and other stolen parts, not to mention the bad design of their hardware and it's overprice. On 2016-10-21 22:54, lukáš Hozda wrote: Hello suckless folks, I am not very familiar with the usage of mailing lists and unsure whether this is the right place to post this request, but just like the title says, I am collecting the sins of Apple. I will be having a speech/presentation on problems of Apple the next week at my school where I plan to talk about the wrongs against people and sane software Apple has on account. I share the passion for C and ingenious, simple, concise and fair software and have been reading everything in dev and hackers mailing lists for a few months, which inspired me to ask you, sane guys, who seem to have a similar view on software and computers as I do, but have much more experience and skill in the field, for some input as well. Do you know about some bad things Apple has done in their pursuit of ever-increasing profits? Do you know about ways Apple is against free and open-source software? Please let me know. Naturally, if you know about some good deeds of Apple, I accept them as well. In return I will include everyone who shares some information in the sources and briefly mention the great suckless community as well. Thanks in advance, Lukáš P.S: If this is indeed the wrong place to post this or it doesn't belong here for one reason or another, I am sincerely sorry and in that case, please ignore this post/mail. [0]: https://opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-10116/ --- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 09:54:04PM +0200, lukáš Hozda wrote: > Do you know about some bad things Apple has done in their pursuit of > ever-increasing profits? Do you know about ways Apple is against free > and open-source software? Please let me know. Naturally, if you know > about some good deeds of Apple, I accept them as well. * Proprietary hardware (chargers, connectors) * Restrictive licensing (not allowed to install their OS on non-Apple computers or VMs though I heard they changed that clause) * Promoting their proprietary "Mantle" API instead of Vulkan (without letting other people write drivers/API implementations on their OS) Just from the top of my head. Some if it may not be relevant anymore so take it with a grain of salt. Cheers, Silvan
Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple
Hi, On 21 Oct 2016, at 21:54, lukáš Hozda wrote: > Naturally, if you know about some good deeds of Apple, I accept > them as well. I just read an article [1] saying that IBM saved a significant amount of money thanks to the fact that they partially switched to Macs from PCs. Cheers, -m [1]: https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/19/jamf-ibm-mac-deployment/
[dev] Collecting sins of Apple
Hello suckless folks, I am not very familiar with the usage of mailing lists and unsure whether this is the right place to post this request, but just like the title says, I am collecting the sins of Apple. I will be having a speech/presentation on problems of Apple the next week at my school where I plan to talk about the wrongs against people and sane software Apple has on account. I share the passion for C and ingenious, simple, concise and fair software and have been reading everything in dev and hackers mailing lists for a few months, which inspired me to ask you, sane guys, who seem to have a similar view on software and computers as I do, but have much more experience and skill in the field, for some input as well. Do you know about some bad things Apple has done in their pursuit of ever-increasing profits? Do you know about ways Apple is against free and open-source software? Please let me know. Naturally, if you know about some good deeds of Apple, I accept them as well. In return I will include everyone who shares some information in the sources and briefly mention the great suckless community as well. Thanks in advance, Lukáš P.S: If this is indeed the wrong place to post this or it doesn't belong here for one reason or another, I am sincerely sorry and in that case, please ignore this post/mail.
Re: [dev] [stali] Boot time (was: The stali way to wifi)
Dear Anselm, and suckless folks, On 10/21/16 11:48, Anselm R Garbe wrote: On 21 October 2016 at 10:01, Kamil Cholewiński wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, Laslo Hunhold wrote: as an off-idea: How are startup-times of stali? Given the power of machines today, there should not be many things limiting a startup in just a few seconds. Any data on that? Oh just try it. I was truly amazed. From bootloader to login prompt in like a second? Wow. Yes, on the pi3 it takes about 2-3s, but on a regular x86 machine it should take <2s. I've been arguing against MS Windows' misdesign to reboot the system on configuration changes. But from a stali perspective I kind of prefer rebooting the system for the prize of avoiding a daemon or runlevel management. It's simpler and it also makes you "configuring" a system less. "Configuring" is always an indicator of suckiness. I totally agree. Same goes for suspend to RAM in my opinion. Now the point is, that firmware sucks too. Nowadays, firmware often takes longer to start than the operating system. Fortunately, coreboot [1] fixes that, and on certain (supported) systems only takes 500 ms to initialize the hardware. This way, you can reboot systems, even servers, for a Linux kernel upgrade, and nobody will notice it. Kind regards, Paul [1] https://www.coreboot.org
Re: [dev] [stali] The stali way to wifi
On 21 October 2016 at 10:01, Kamil Cholewiński wrote: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, Laslo Hunhold wrote: >> as an off-idea: How are startup-times of stali? Given the power of >> machines today, there should not be many things limiting a startup in >> just a few seconds. Any data on that? > > Oh just try it. I was truly amazed. > From bootloader to login prompt in like a second? Wow. Yes, on the pi3 it takes about 2-3s, but on a regular x86 machine it should take <2s. I've been arguing against MS Windows' misdesign to reboot the system on configuration changes. But from a stali perspective I kind of prefer rebooting the system for the prize of avoiding a daemon or runlevel management. It's simpler and it also makes you "configuring" a system less. "Configuring" is always an indicator of suckiness. Cheers, Anselm
Re: [dev] [stali] The stali way to wifi
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, Laslo Hunhold wrote: > as an off-idea: How are startup-times of stali? Given the power of > machines today, there should not be many things limiting a startup in > just a few seconds. Any data on that? Oh just try it. I was truly amazed. >From bootloader to login prompt in like a second? Wow.
