Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
+1 for Hudson. Thanks, Ruwan On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:00, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:31 +0530, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya We at HttpComponents use both Continuum and Hudson, though, I personally find Hudson to be easier to manager and generally better. Both systems tend to produce false positives when running low on resources or are under heavy load. However in most cases the failures manifested themselves as various timeouts (connect / response timeouts) rather any particular flaw in the CI system. The main source of trouble with Hudson for me were frequent failures with deploying snapshots to the repository.apache.org, which, as Andreas pointed out, has nothing to do with Hudson as such. I see. Thanks Andreas and Oleg for the details. I guess we'll be sticking with Hudson :) You're welcome. Note that if you have questions about why a particular build has failed or if you would like to improve the configuration of the Synapse jobs, please feel free to ask. BTW: there will be false negatives because repository.apache.org again has problems :-( Thanks, Hiranya Cheers Oleg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Ruwan Linton Software Architect Product Manager, WSO2 ESB; http://wso2.org/esb WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org Lean . Enterprise . Middleware phone: +1 408 754 7388 ext 51789 email: ru...@wso2.com; cell: +94 77 341 3097 blog: http://blog.ruwan.org linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ruwanlinton google: http://www.google.com/profiles/ruwan.linton tweet: http://twitter.com/ruwanlinton
RE: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
I’m also too late for this discussion but just wanted to let you know about my consent. I completely agree with Andreas. I know both CI solutions and Hudson is superior in many areas. To some degree the content of the build (error) messages can be customized in the job configuration “Editable Email Notification”. Build errors caused by the underlying infrastructure will happen with any build system. By the way, Hudson also incorporates support for many nice code quality plugins visualizing the history/trend of those results. In a separate “doc” job you can for example integrate java doc creation, findbugs, pmd, checkstyle, cobertura, etc – which can also add a lot of value to a project with limited extra configuration effort. I haven’t seen much usage of this in the Apache Hudson installation though. Maybe because many of the Apache projects have been already integrated in http://nemo.sonarsource.org/ with some rule set? Synapse is also present there. Regards, Eric +1 for Hudson. Thanks, Ruwan On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.commailto:andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:00, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.commailto:hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.orgmailto:ol...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:31 +0530, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya We at HttpComponents use both Continuum and Hudson, though, I personally find Hudson to be easier to manager and generally better. Both systems tend to produce false positives when running low on resources or are under heavy load. However in most cases the failures manifested themselves as various timeouts (connect / response timeouts) rather any particular flaw in the CI system. The main source of trouble with Hudson for me were frequent failures with deploying snapshots to the repository.apache.orghttp://repository.apache.org, which, as Andreas pointed out, has nothing to do with Hudson as such. I see. Thanks Andreas and Oleg for the details. I guess we'll be sticking with Hudson :) You're welcome. Note that if you have questions about why a particular build has failed or if you would like to improve the configuration of the Synapse jobs, please feel free to ask. BTW: there will be false negatives because repository.apache.orghttp://repository.apache.org again has problems :-(
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:00, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski ol...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:31 +0530, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya We at HttpComponents use both Continuum and Hudson, though, I personally find Hudson to be easier to manager and generally better. Both systems tend to produce false positives when running low on resources or are under heavy load. However in most cases the failures manifested themselves as various timeouts (connect / response timeouts) rather any particular flaw in the CI system. The main source of trouble with Hudson for me were frequent failures with deploying snapshots to the repository.apache.org, which, as Andreas pointed out, has nothing to do with Hudson as such. I see. Thanks Andreas and Oleg for the details. I guess we'll be sticking with Hudson :) You're welcome. Note that if you have questions about why a particular build has failed or if you would like to improve the configuration of the Synapse jobs, please feel free to ask. BTW: there will be false negatives because repository.apache.org again has problems :-( Thanks, Hiranya Cheers Oleg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 04:51, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:01, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Can you give me an example of this? Well most of the recent notifications from Hudson have been false alarms. Apparently this is not a problem specific to Synapse. Few days back the same concern was raised on mina-dev@ as well. There were a couple of builds that failed with Server returned HTTP response code: 502. These failures were actually caused by repository.apache.org running out of resources. A build on Continuum would have failed with the same error. Thanks, Hiranya [1] - https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/job/Synapse%20-%20Trunk/ Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I have used both Continuum and Hudson, and I think Hudson is much better than Continuum. BTW, as you can see, there are only a couple of projects left that still use Continuum at Apache. All other projects are using Hudson. At work, we also migrated from Continuum to Hudson several months ago, and we are very happy with it. It's really the first time that I hear somebody suggesting to move from Hudson to Continuum. Andreas On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 00:26, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, How do you feel about switching to Continuum from Hudson as our CI solution? I've been looking at the build notifications sent by Continuum in the HttpComponents mailing list and they are very clean, easy to comprehend and full of useful details. The Continuum interface/dashboard also looks very good. For an example have a look at [1]. WDYT? Thanks, Hiranya [1] - http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1544projectId=66 -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
Personally, I have used both Continuum and Hudson, and I think Hudson is much better than Continuum. BTW, as you can see, there are only a couple of projects left that still use Continuum at Apache. All other projects are using Hudson. At work, we also migrated from Continuum to Hudson several months ago, and we are very happy with it. It's really the first time that I hear somebody suggesting to move from Hudson to Continuum. Andreas On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 00:26, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, How do you feel about switching to Continuum from Hudson as our CI solution? I've been looking at the build notifications sent by Continuum in the HttpComponents mailing list and they are very clean, easy to comprehend and full of useful details. The Continuum interface/dashboard also looks very good. For an example have a look at [1]. WDYT? Thanks, Hiranya [1] - http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1544projectId=66 -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I have used both Continuum and Hudson, and I think Hudson is much better than Continuum. BTW, as you can see, there are only a couple of projects left that still use Continuum at Apache. All other projects are using Hudson. At work, we also migrated from Continuum to Hudson several months ago, and we are very happy with it. It's really the first time that I hear somebody suggesting to move from Hudson to Continuum. Andreas On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 00:26, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, How do you feel about switching to Continuum from Hudson as our CI solution? I've been looking at the build notifications sent by Continuum in the HttpComponents mailing list and they are very clean, easy to comprehend and full of useful details. The Continuum interface/dashboard also looks very good. For an example have a look at [1]. WDYT? Thanks, Hiranya [1] - http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1544projectId=66 -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:01, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Can you give me an example of this? Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I have used both Continuum and Hudson, and I think Hudson is much better than Continuum. BTW, as you can see, there are only a couple of projects left that still use Continuum at Apache. All other projects are using Hudson. At work, we also migrated from Continuum to Hudson several months ago, and we are very happy with it. It's really the first time that I hear somebody suggesting to move from Hudson to Continuum. Andreas On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 00:26, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, How do you feel about switching to Continuum from Hudson as our CI solution? I've been looking at the build notifications sent by Continuum in the HttpComponents mailing list and they are very clean, easy to comprehend and full of useful details. The Continuum interface/dashboard also looks very good. For an example have a look at [1]. WDYT? Thanks, Hiranya [1] - http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1544projectId=66 -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
Re: Continuum as the Continuous Integration Solution
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:01, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input. My concern is that Hudson reports/notifications sometimes are completely useless. Can you give me an example of this? Well most of the recent notifications from Hudson have been false alarms. Apparently this is not a problem specific to Synapse. Few days back the same concern was raised on mina-dev@ as well. Thanks, Hiranya [1] - https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/job/Synapse%20-%20Trunk/ Also recently there have been so many false negatives reported on the list. I was hoping that may be Continuum doesn't suffer these limitations. Thanks, Hiranya On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Andreas Veithen andreas.veit...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I have used both Continuum and Hudson, and I think Hudson is much better than Continuum. BTW, as you can see, there are only a couple of projects left that still use Continuum at Apache. All other projects are using Hudson. At work, we also migrated from Continuum to Hudson several months ago, and we are very happy with it. It's really the first time that I hear somebody suggesting to move from Hudson to Continuum. Andreas On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 00:26, Hiranya Jayathilaka hiranya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, How do you feel about switching to Continuum from Hudson as our CI solution? I've been looking at the build notifications sent by Continuum in the HttpComponents mailing list and they are very clean, easy to comprehend and full of useful details. The Continuum interface/dashboard also looks very good. For an example have a look at [1]. WDYT? Thanks, Hiranya [1] - http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=1544projectId=66 -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: hira...@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@synapse.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@synapse.apache.org
