Re: TomEE GraalVM native image

2019-11-14 Thread Zowalla, Richard
Hi Jon,
personally, I agree with your view: +1
Richard Z
Am Donnerstag, den 14.11.2019, 09:39 + schrieb Jonathan Gallimore:
> If we're to roll an 8.0.1 any day now, its unlikely it'll have
> aMicroProfile update, as there's a number of dependencies that get
> pulled infor that functionality. We can release as often as we
> want/can, and there'sdefinitely changes since 8.0.0 that we need to
> get released, so I wouldn'thold up 8.0.1 for MicroProfile updates,
> when we can release an 8.0.2 assoon as those changes are in.
> For clarification, I don't set the roadmap for the community. For
> me,Jakarta EE 8 compliance is the priority. If others wish to work on
> GraalVMor other functionality in parallel, that is cool with me. An
> unfortunatereality, however, is that if everything has the same
> priority, effectivelyyou have no priorities. The danger is you'll
> wait longer for any of it toshow up. If GraalVM native images is your
> priority, I would stronglyencourage you to contribute to that work.
> Jon
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:25 AM COURTAULT Francois <
> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> Hello Jonathan,
> I would also consider, as the same priority level than Jakarta EE
> 8compliancy, Micro Profile compliancy.I hope that TomEE 8.0.1 will be
> MP 2.2... and TomEE 8.1.x MP 3.x (3.2specification has just been
> released - 3 days ago)
> Is it also the roadmap you or the community have in mind ?
> Best Regards.
> -Original Message-From: Jonathan Gallimore [mailto:
> jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com]Sent: mercredi 13 novembre 2019 15:25To:
> users@tomee.apache.orgCc: 
> dev@tomee.apache.orgSubject: Re: TomEE GraalVM native image
> I think it should be a quite important topic to consider in
> theroadmap,right ?
> I agree its cool. What's the community take on the priority?
> Personally,I'd consider getting Jakarta EE 8 done the highest
> priority, behind bugsand security updates. I'm currently trying to
> finish one bug, and review 2PRs before getting a release out, and
> then I'll hopefully be back toJakarta EE 8.
> If others want to work on GraalVM native images for TomEE, that's
> greatand contributions are welcome. I'll keep plugging away at
> Jakarta EE 8.
> Jon
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:35 AM COURTAULT Francois <
> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I am able to see some initiatives around GraalVM native-image
> likeQuarkus, Helidon,...I have also seen that Tomcat 9.0.26 could be
> built as a native image:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftomcat.apache.org%2Ftomcat-9.0-doc%2Fgraal.html&data=02%7C01%7CFrancois.COURTAULT%40gemalto.com%7Cc1b6794714b74a427c3008d76846c01a%7C37d0a9db7c464096bfe31add5b495d6d%7C0%7C0%7C637092525391905126&sdata=RFGUmuKXLWAczYRvF24TmQkiIA%2BOWh%2F86K9tCTdRXjo%3D&reserved=0
> Digging on the web, I discover some work on TomEE side as well:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftomitribe%2Fgraalvm-microprofile&data=02%7C01%7CFrancois.COURTAULT%40gemalto.com%7Cc1b6794714b74a427c3008d76846c01a%7C37d0a9db7c464096bfe31add5b495d6d%7C0%7C0%7C637092525391905126&sdata=2uu3%2FI5b0uyFefJ3iwUN2oPs4eT%2FV0APZwb52MEoGk0%3D&reserved=0
> Are you working on a TomEE version which can be built as a
> GraalVMnative image ?I think it should be a quite important topic to
> consider in theroadmap, right ?
> Best Regards.
> 
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Re: TomEE GraalVM native image

2019-11-14 Thread Jonathan Gallimore
If we're to roll an 8.0.1 any day now, its unlikely it'll have a
MicroProfile update, as there's a number of dependencies that get pulled in
for that functionality. We can release as often as we want/can, and there's
definitely changes since 8.0.0 that we need to get released, so I wouldn't
hold up 8.0.1 for MicroProfile updates, when we can release an 8.0.2 as
soon as those changes are in.

For clarification, I don't set the roadmap for the community. For me,
Jakarta EE 8 compliance is the priority. If others wish to work on GraalVM
or other functionality in parallel, that is cool with me. An unfortunate
reality, however, is that if everything has the same priority, effectively
you have no priorities. The danger is you'll wait longer for any of it to
show up. If GraalVM native images is your priority, I would strongly
encourage you to contribute to that work.

Jon

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:25 AM COURTAULT Francois <
francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:

> Hello Jonathan,
>
> I would also consider, as the same priority level than Jakarta EE 8
> compliancy, Micro Profile compliancy.
> I hope that TomEE 8.0.1 will be MP 2.2... and TomEE 8.1.x MP 3.x (3.2
> specification has just been released - 3 days ago)
>
> Is it also the roadmap you or the community have in mind ?
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Gallimore [mailto:jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com]
> Sent: mercredi 13 novembre 2019 15:25
> To: us...@tomee.apache.org
> Cc: dev@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: TomEE GraalVM native image
>
> > I think it should be a quite important topic to consider in the
> > roadmap,
> right ?
>
> I agree its cool. What's the community take on the priority? Personally,
> I'd consider getting Jakarta EE 8 done the highest priority, behind bugs
> and security updates. I'm currently trying to finish one bug, and review 2
> PRs before getting a release out, and then I'll hopefully be back to
> Jakarta EE 8.
>
> If others want to work on GraalVM native images for TomEE, that's great
> and contributions are welcome. I'll keep plugging away at Jakarta EE 8.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:35 AM COURTAULT Francois <
> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am able to see some initiatives around GraalVM native-image like
> > Quarkus, Helidon,...
> > I have also seen that Tomcat 9.0.26 could be built as a native image:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftomca
> > t.apache.org%2Ftomcat-9.0-doc%2Fgraal.html&data=02%7C01%7CFrancois
> > .COURTAULT%40gemalto.com%7Cc1b6794714b74a427c3008d76846c01a%7C37d0a9db
> > 7c464096bfe31add5b495d6d%7C0%7C0%7C637092525391905126&sdata=RFGUmu
> > KXLWAczYRvF24TmQkiIA%2BOWh%2F86K9tCTdRXjo%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > Digging on the web, I discover some work on TomEE side as well:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> > ub.com%2Ftomitribe%2Fgraalvm-microprofile&data=02%7C01%7CFrancois.
> > COURTAULT%40gemalto.com%7Cc1b6794714b74a427c3008d76846c01a%7C37d0a9db7
> > c464096bfe31add5b495d6d%7C0%7C0%7C637092525391905126&sdata=2uu3%2F
> > I5b0uyFefJ3iwUN2oPs4eT%2FV0APZwb52MEoGk0%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > Are you working on a TomEE version which can be built as a GraalVM
> > native image ?
> > I think it should be a quite important topic to consider in the
> > roadmap, right ?
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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