Re: Components.utils.import caches?

2012-08-20 Thread sebastiangaul
Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2011 06:16:50 UTC+1 schrieb johnjbarton:
> I recall reading some rumors about Components.utils.import being cached 
> in such a way that devs can't change the source and see changes. Any 
> truth to this?  Any workaround if true? (Other than the rumored 
> requirement to change the file names!).
> 
> jjb

I can confirm this issue: Using Firefox 14.01 and using utils.import to load 
user scripts from the Firefox profile directory does not work as expected: 
Changes to the imported files do not take effect after a Firefox restart. I 
also tried unload without success:

Components.utils.unload("file://" + filePath);
Components.utils.import("file://" + filePath);

However, sometimes (I cannot reproduce when exactly) after several restarts 
Firefox seems to drop the cache and read the file again. I'm curious for any 
workaround. It would be cool to reimport a modified file without a restart.
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Re: Components.utils.import caches?

2012-08-20 Thread Benjamin Smedberg

On 8/20/2012 9:25 AM, sebastiang...@gmail.com wrote:

Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2011 06:16:50 UTC+1 schrieb johnjbarton:

I recall reading some rumors about Components.utils.import being cached
in such a way that devs can't change the source and see changes. Any
truth to this?  Any workaround if true? (Other than the rumored
requirement to change the file names!).

jjb

I can confirm this issue: Using Firefox 14.01 and using utils.import to load 
user scripts from the Firefox profile directory does not work as expected: 
Changes to the imported files do not take effect after a Firefox restart. I 
also tried unload without success:

Components.utils.unload("file://" + filePath);
Components.utils.import("file://" + filePath);

However, sometimes (I cannot reproduce when exactly) after several restarts 
Firefox seems to drop the cache and read the file again. I'm curious for any 
workaround. It would be cool to reimport a modified file without a restart.
This is a function of the "startup cache" which improves startup 
performance by cacheing preparsed versions of these files the first time 
they are parsed to improve future startup times. The startup cache is 
automatically cleared when Firefox updates to a new version, when the 
user launches in safe mode, and I believe whenever a non-restartless 
addon is installed or uninstalled. You can programmatically clear the 
startup cache using the nsIStartupCache.invalidate() interface; you can 
also do some other things:


* Use the -purgecaches command line argument or MOZ_PURGE_CACHES=1 
environment variable to clear on startup.
* set the MOZ_STARTUP_CACHE=/path/to/file environment variable to change 
what file Firefox uses for the startup cache


--BDS

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Re: Proposed policy change: reusability of tests by other browsers

2012-08-20 Thread Asa Dotzler

On 8/19/2012 1:41 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:


Anyway, one major goal of an open web is that users should have as
many choices as possible for web browsers.  That means we need to put
special effort into making things as easy as possible for smaller
browsers.  So if Opera will definitely use our tests and other
browsers might or might not, I think that's a good reason to go ahead.


Can you say more about this? Are you saying it's Mozilla's 
responsibility to put Mozilla resources into solving problems for Opera? 
I'm not sure I understand this assertion.


- A

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W3C Proposed Recommendation: Navigation Timing

2012-08-20 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation:

  Navigation Timing
  W3C Proposed Recommendation
  26 July 2012
  http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/PR-navigation-timing-20120726/

There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla
is one) open until August 28.

If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the
review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition
to the specification, please say so in this thread.  (I'd note,
however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make
comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues
for the first time at this stage.)

-David

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Re: XUL Runner, and the future.

2012-08-20 Thread Alex Vincent

On 8/14/2012 8:45 PM, andreas.pals...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.

I am curious if XUL Runner has an End-Of-Life policy?
Or is it intimately connected with Firefox, i.e. as long as there is Firefox 
releases based on XUL there will be XUL Runner available too?

The reason I ask if because I am trying to "standardize" it within my 
organization for the next 5-10 years.

Thank you.



I personally think I'll be using XULRunner for a long while.  I notice 
when SDK builds aren't available... and if the community considered me 
qualified to do so, I'd try to actively own and maintain it.  It's 
pretty important to me as a base platform for building my own apps.


For instance, there's a patch in the pipeline to replace the old 
install-app capability with a Python script that works much better.


Alex
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Re: Components.utils.import caches?

2012-08-20 Thread Neil

Benjamin Smedberg wrote:


On 8/20/2012 9:25 AM, sebastiang...@gmail.com wrote:


Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2011 06:16:50 UTC+1 schrieb johnjbarton:

I recall reading some rumors about Components.utils.import being 
cached in such a way that devs can't change the source and see 
changes. Any truth to this?  Any workaround if true? (Other than the 
rumored requirement to change the file names!).


I can confirm this issue: Using Firefox 14.01 and using utils.import 
to load user scripts from the Firefox profile directory does not work 
as expected: Changes to the imported files do not take effect after a 
Firefox restart. I also tried unload without success:


Components.utils.unload("file://" + filePath);
Components.utils.import("file://" + filePath);

However, sometimes (I cannot reproduce when exactly) after several 
restarts Firefox seems to drop the cache and read the file again. I'm 
curious for any workaround. It would be cool to reimport a modified 
file without a restart.


This is a function of the "startup cache" which improves startup 
performance by cacheing preparsed versions of these files the first 
time they are parsed to improve future startup times. The startup 
cache is automatically cleared when Firefox updates to a new version, 
when the user launches in safe mode, and I believe whenever a 
non-restartless addon is installed or uninstalled. You can 
programmatically clear the startup cache using the 
nsIStartupCache.invalidate() interface; you can also do some other 
things:


* Use the -purgecaches command line argument or MOZ_PURGE_CACHES=1 
environment variable to clear on startup.
* set the MOZ_STARTUP_CACHE=/path/to/file environment variable to 
change what file Firefox uses for the startup cache


The rot seems to have crept into chrome scripts as well. Time was that 
you could disable the XUL cache and your DTD and JS files would get 
re-read too. Now that I have looked I see that 
Services.obs.notifyObservers(null, "startupcache-invalidate", null); 
will help me out a bit.


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MemShrink meeting Tuesday 8/21/2012 @ 4:00pm PDT

2012-08-20 Thread Jet Villegas
The wiki page for this meeting is at:

   https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink

Agenda:

* Prioritize unprioritized MemShrink bugs.
* Discuss how we measure progress.
* Discuss approaches to getting more data.

Meeting details:

* Tue, Aug 21, 2012, 4:00 PM PDT
* PB&J, Mountain View office, 3rd floor.
* Dial-in Info:
   - In office or soft phone: extension 92
   - US/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92
   - Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369
   - Conference num 95346

-- Jet
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