Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web & Networks Interest Group

2019-04-09 Thread Dragana Damjanovic
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Henri Sivonen  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:11 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
> >
> > The W3C is proposing a new charter for:
> >
> >   Web & Networks Interest Group
> >   https://www.w3.org/2019/03/web-networks-charter-draft.html
> >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Mar/0010.html
> >
> > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> > Friday, April 26.
> >
> > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> > support or oppose it.
>
> The phrasing of "Application hints to the network" part of the charter
> suggest that the IG envisions the browser declaring preferences to the
> *network* rather than the other end point of the connection. Am I
> reading that part right? That seems contrary to the general trend,
> including Mozilla efforts, to encrypt things so that things aren't
> visible to the network between the end points and the tendency to
> consider it unwanted for the network to take actions other than making
> the packets travel between the end points.
>
>
depends what information are given as a hint.
"Latency vs bandwidth tradeoffs , for instance high bandwidth 4K video
stream, or low latency video call, etc."  do expose some information about
the user traffic.

The slides(I found on the github repo) talk about 'Dual Connectivity' which
does not give more information about users.

dragana


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Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web & Networks Interest Group

2019-04-09 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:11 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
>
> The W3C is proposing a new charter for:
>
>   Web & Networks Interest Group
>   https://www.w3.org/2019/03/web-networks-charter-draft.html
>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Mar/0010.html
>
> Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> Friday, April 26.
>
> Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> support or oppose it.

The phrasing of "Application hints to the network" part of the charter
suggest that the IG envisions the browser declaring preferences to the
*network* rather than the other end point of the connection. Am I
reading that part right? That seems contrary to the general trend,
including Mozilla efforts, to encrypt things so that things aren't
visible to the network between the end points and the tendency to
consider it unwanted for the network to take actions other than making
the packets travel between the end points.

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Proposed W3C Charter: Web & Networks Interest Group

2019-04-08 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a new charter for:

  Web & Networks Interest Group
  https://www.w3.org/2019/03/web-networks-charter-draft.html
  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Mar/0010.html

Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
Friday, April 26.

Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
support or oppose it.

-David

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