Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[nhirata]

1) The reason why we've merge in the beginning of the week is traditionally 
there has been fall outs as well as chemspills.  ie this helps reduce the 
number of people that have to work weekends in order to fix up the branches.  
In case you need evidence of the fall outs, you can see the crash rates usually 
increase right after a merge.

2) There was an assumption that b2g would also move at this time and has moved 
master 2.6 prematurely; we still have not finished the project.  As far as I 
know, taskcluster is not setup to make 2.5 builds.  With the possibility of 
pvtbuild server going away,in the near future, this causes an issue to the B2G 
project.
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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Masatoshi Kimura]

I missed two commits for 44 branch.
https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=fx-team=6b3c99e54177
Uplift requests will not help because they are string changes.

On 2015/10/29 5:10, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
> Tuesday),
> we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
> As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
> in release).
> This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.
> 
> I apologize for the very late notice. Of course, we will be friendly
> with uplift requests.
> 
> Sylvestre
> 
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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Sylvestre Ledru]

Please request the uplift. Under specific circumstances (like this one), we 
take string changes in aurora.

Thanks
Sylvestre

Le 29/10/2015 13:39, Masatoshi Kimura a écrit :
> I missed two commits for 44 branch.
> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=fx-team=6b3c99e54177
> Uplift requests will not help because they are string changes.
>
> On 2015/10/29 5:10, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
>> Tuesday),
>> we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
>> As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
>> in release).
>> This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.
>>
>> I apologize for the very late notice. Of course, we will be friendly
>> with uplift requests.
>>
>> Sylvestre
>>
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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Axel Hecht]

I'm also commented in the bug:

If we're doing uplifts, I'm not sure we're winning by uplifting 
pre-landed strings.


Either way, I think the risk assessment of the patch should be that of 
the actual patch that uses the strings, not "just adding strings".


Also, I'd appreciate an ETA for the patch, as that's also going in to 
the risk that a patch comes with.


Axel

On 10/29/15 1:41 PM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

Please request the uplift. Under specific circumstances (like this one), we 
take string changes in aurora.

Thanks
Sylvestre

Le 29/10/2015 13:39, Masatoshi Kimura a écrit :

I missed two commits for 44 branch.
https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=fx-team=6b3c99e54177
Uplift requests will not help because they are string changes.

On 2015/10/29 5:10, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

Hello,

Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
Tuesday),
we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
in release).
This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.

I apologize for the very late notice. Of course, we will be friendly
with uplift requests.

Sylvestre


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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Sylvestre Ledru]

Le 29/10/2015 02:11, Ehsan Akhgari a écrit :
> On 2015-10-28 4:10 PM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
>> Tuesday),
>> we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
>> As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
>> in release).
>> This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.
>
> We've been working very hard to prepare Service Workers to be released in 44. 
>  We're down to a few remaining bugs, and since we were hoping to get testing 
> on Aurora on this feature (hopefully with web developers experimenting with 
> it!)  I have a couple of questions that would help us figure out
> how this changes our plans (probably not in a great way!).
>
> It would be very helpful if we can get our last changes onto Aurora after 
> this uplift.  What's the approval process involved?  Is it the same as the 
> normal process?
Yes. We are going to fast track the approvals.
>
> Also I think this essentially means that we would have no chance to get our 
> changes into the first Aurora build.  So we would need to rely on the 
> updates.  Are Aurora updates made nightly these days or are there small 
> "releases" on the Aurora branch?
Aurora/Devedition builds are nightly builds.
If you can get your changes into aurora Thursday or Friday, we can retrigger a 
build to make sure your changes are in the Tuesday release.

Hope this helps,
Sylvestre

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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Byron Jones]

Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition
(next Tuesday), we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow,
Thursday. As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43
(42 is already in release). This will give us enough time to validate
the first aurora build.

I apologize for the very late notice. Of course, we will be friendly
with uplift requests.


please update https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar and the 
associated ICS files.


thanks.
--
byron jones - :glob - bugzilla.mozilla.org team lead -

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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Jonas Sicking]

Please make sure to coordinate with the FirefoxOS release team since
Gecko 44 is the release that will be used for FirefoxOS 2.5.

/ Jonas

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Sylvestre Ledru  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
> Tuesday),
> we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
> As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
> in release).
> This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.
>
> I apologize for the very late notice. Of course, we will be friendly
> with uplift requests.
>
> Sylvestre
>
>
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Re: Merge moved to Thursday 29th

[Ehsan Akhgari]

On 2015-10-28 4:10 PM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

Hello,

Because we want to synchronize the release of 42 and 44 devedition (next
Tuesday),
we are planning to perform the merge tomorrow, Thursday.
As a consequence, nightly = 45, aurora = 44 and beta = 43 (42 is already
in release).
This will give us enough time to validate the first aurora build.


We've been working very hard to prepare Service Workers to be released 
in 44.  We're down to a few remaining bugs, and since we were hoping to 
get testing on Aurora on this feature (hopefully with web developers 
experimenting with it!)  I have a couple of questions that would help us 
figure out how this changes our plans (probably not in a great way!).


It would be very helpful if we can get our last changes onto Aurora 
after this uplift.  What's the approval process involved?  Is it the 
same as the normal process?


Also I think this essentially means that we would have no chance to get 
our changes into the first Aurora build.  So we would need to rely on 
the updates.  Are Aurora updates made nightly these days or are there 
small "releases" on the Aurora branch?


Thanks!
Ehsan
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