Re: Certigna Root Inclusion Request Round 2

2009-03-03 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM,   wrote:
> Email:  CPS section 5.2.6 specifies the controls for applications for
> the Certigna ID certificates. It says that in addition to verifying
> the identity of the applicant, they check the email address as follows
> as per the supplied translation:
> “On left part of the email address, we have to found, in a non
> equivoque form, the name and the first name of the future bearer. In
> the opposite case, and in case of a doubt on the intention of
> usurpation, it is important to report that at the security responsible
> who will defined the actions to make (exhaustive check of the order,
> reject or acceptation).
> On the right part of the email address is located the name of the web
> site of the entity or the name of a FAI (and name of another entity).”

I'll be so bold as to try to translate this into better English (this
is obviously NOT to be considered authoritative):

The left-hand side of the email address must contain both the first
and last name of the person in order to pass the automatic issuance
procedure [[NB: this is due to the word 'and' in the translation; I
would assume that it should actually be an 'or', and the email address
has to at least be the last name of the subscriber]].  If the
left-hand side of the email address does not contain the first and[or]
last name of the person, then it gets passed up the line for manual
review.  [[NB: the mechanism for manual review is not defined, but
allows for a more exhaustive verification, automatic denial (such as
'georgewb...@thisisnottheofficialbushdomain.com', I presume), or
immediate acceptance (under some unknown criteria).]]

On the right-hand side (sitename) part of the email address must be
either the name of the web site [[NB: this suggests that it must be,
for example, 'hec...@www.mozillafoundation.org' instead of
'hec...@mozillafoundation.org']], or the name of a [[??What is an
FAI??]] and another entity.  [[NB: presumably 'gmail.com' would be the
'name of another entity', but I'm still unable to parse this
sentence.]]

To Certigna: I am very sorry if I have mangled the meaning of your CPS
through the apparently-automated translation.

> This begins phase 2 of the public discussion of the request from
> Certigna to add the Certigna CA root certificate to Mozilla.

Thank you, Kathleen.  (And thank you, Frank, for getting Mozilla to
hire her. :))

-Kyle H
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Certigna Root Inclusion Request Round 2

2009-03-03 Thread kathleen95014
Certigna has applied to add one new root CA certificate to the Mozilla
root store.  The first public discussion of this inclusion request can
be found here:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/1eb7ad475c762788#

Bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393166

Pending certificates list entry:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/pending/#Certigna%20of%20Dhimyotis

Summary of Information Gathering and Verification Phase:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=359344

There was one action item that resulted from the first public
discussion, which was for Certigna to post the public and relevant
portion of the CPS, and to have their auditor confirm that the posted
portion is indeed what was audited.

The relevant, public portion of their CPS has been attached to the
bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=364343

Translations of portions of this document have also been attached to
the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=364146

I have received email from the lead auditor for LSTI which states that
this part of the CPS was indeed reviewed during Certigna’s last audit.
LSTI is an accredited certification body in France who provided the
previous audit statement dated 8/20/2008.

Of particular interest from the first public discussion was how the
validation requirements were met in regards to section 7, parts a, b,
and c of the Mozilla CA Certificate Policy at
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/policy/.

SSL: CPS section 5.2.7 specifies the controls for applications for
server certificates. It says that in addition to verifying the
identity of the applicant, they use the whois service (www.whois.net)
to verify that the organization owns the FQDN in the requested
certificate.

Email:  CPS section 5.2.6 specifies the controls for applications for
the Certigna ID certificates. It says that in addition to verifying
the identity of the applicant, they check the email address as follows
as per the supplied translation:
“On left part of the email address, we have to found, in a non
equivoque form, the name and the first name of the future bearer. In
the opposite case, and in case of a doubt on the intention of
usurpation, it is important to report that at the security responsible
who will defined the actions to make (exhaustive check of the order,
reject or acceptation).
On the right part of the email address is located the name of the web
site of the entity or the name of a FAI (and name of another entity).”

Code Signing: There is a separate internal document for the new code-
signing sub-CA. The section of the document that describes the
verification of the identity of the subscriber has been translated
into English and attached to the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=365278

I am not aware of any potentially problematic practices, as per
https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Problematic_Practices
The SSL certs are OV. End-entity certs are issued from intermediate
CAs, and the intermediate CAs are internally operated. OCSP and CRLs
were both successfully used in Firefox.

This begins phase 2 of the public discussion of the request from
Certigna to add the Certigna CA root certificate to Mozilla.
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Re: Microsec Root Inclusion Request Round 2

2009-03-03 Thread Eddy Nigg

On 03/03/2009 02:34 PM, Frank Hecker:

If you have particular sections where you are concerned about the
accuracy of the translation, we can ask someone on the Mozilla Hungarian
localization team to double-check the translation. However they are
volunteers, and I do not want to burden them by asking them to check the
entire CPS translation.


The CPS looks accurate as far as I can see, I just wanted to know if 
they perhaps bothered already to produce a confirmation beforehand. If 
one exists even the better, why not have it. I don't want to burden the 
localization people with this.



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Re: Microsec Root Inclusion Request Round 2

2009-03-03 Thread Frank Hecker

Eddy Nigg wrote:
I don't want to complicate matters, but I would 
like to ask if there is some confirmation about the correctness of the 
translation.


If you have particular sections where you are concerned about the 
accuracy of the translation, we can ask someone on the Mozilla Hungarian 
localization team to double-check the translation. However they are 
volunteers, and I do not want to burden them by asking them to check the 
entire CPS translation.


Frank

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