RE: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-20 Thread Paul Keogh
 
 now basically they complain that Kannel does not check the UAProf
 profile of a device and hence does not recognize that certain
 mime-types can or can't be accepted by the device.

But can the list of acceptable MIME types not be checked against the
Accept: MIME headers ? I don't see this as a UAProf activity. Is it
the case that not all supported MIME types are listed in the Accept:
headers and that the UAProf document holds the definitive list ?

 yes, I guess UAProf is not only about passing the information. It is
 also about dealing with it in terms of allowing to modify mime-types
 to fit the needs of the device. Or am I wrong here?

I think that what a gateway is supposed to do with UAProf information is
not specified in the WAP standards and is implementation dependent.

You could for example, ensure that any images sent back do not exceed that
specifications in the UAProf document but this again is an implementation
issue.





Re: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-20 Thread Stipe Tolj
Paul Keogh wrote:
 
 
  now basically they complain that Kannel does not check the UAProf
  profile of a device and hence does not recognize that certain
  mime-types can or can't be accepted by the device.
 
 But can the list of acceptable MIME types not be checked against the
 Accept: MIME headers ? I don't see this as a UAProf activity. Is it
 the case that not all supported MIME types are listed in the Accept:
 headers and that the UAProf document holds the definitive list ?

sort of. To be honest I'm also not aware of if 100%. They claimed that
Kannel dropped the HTTP response because the HTTP server responded
with text/html and *if* Kannel would have supported UAProf it *would*
know that the device can do something with it.

Something like that.

BTW, did you sign the NDA stuff for Open Group? I'd like to have you
boarded in the REFPOOL issue.

  yes, I guess UAProf is not only about passing the information. It is
  also about dealing with it in terms of allowing to modify mime-types
  to fit the needs of the device. Or am I wrong here?
 
 I think that what a gateway is supposed to do with UAProf information is
 not specified in the WAP standards and is implementation dependent.

agreed.

Stipe

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Re: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-19 Thread Stipe Tolj
Hi Paul,

Paul Keogh schrieb:
 
   our REFPOOL tests are doing well. Handset manufacturers
  claim the lack
   of UAProf support within Kannel.
 
 Is there any more details about these claims - ie. what exactly are
 they claiming is missing ?

now basically they complain that Kannel does not check the UAProf
profile of a device and hence does not recognize that certain
mime-types can or can't be accepted by the device.

   Can someone please check if UAProf is a mandatory feature for WAP
   1.2.1 (jun)?
   Is there anyone interested to pick this issue up and work on it?
 
 
 The Profile, Profile-Diff and Profile-Warning HTTP headers are all defined,
 as is the uaprof content type in WSP 1.2.1.
 
 Is the question what the gateway should do with this information, other than
 pass it on to the HTTP server ?

yes, I guess UAProf is not only about passing the information. It is
also about dealing with it in terms of allowing to modify mime-types
to fit the needs of the device. Or am I wrong here?

Stipe

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RE: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-18 Thread Paul Keogh
  our REFPOOL tests are doing well. Handset manufacturers
 claim the lack
  of UAProf support within Kannel.

Is there any more details about these claims - ie. what exactly are
they claiming is missing ?

 
  Can someone please check if UAProf is a mandatory feature for WAP
  1.2.1 (jun)?
  Is there anyone interested to pick this issue up and work on it?


The Profile, Profile-Diff and Profile-Warning HTTP headers are all defined,
as is the uaprof content type in WSP 1.2.1.

Is the question what the gateway should do with this information, other than
pass it on to the HTTP server ?





Re: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-17 Thread Bruno Rodrigues
A Ter, 2003-06-17 às 09:22, Stipe Tolj escreveu:
 Hi list,
 
 our REFPOOL tests are doing well. Handset manufacturers claim the lack
 of UAProf support within Kannel.
 
 Can someone please check if UAProf is a mandatory feature for WAP
 1.2.1 (jun)?
 Is there anyone interested to pick this issue up and work on it?

I might be interested (*need 36h per day please*) because this is
related to my current job.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any shortcut that helps me, like wapforum links
to documentation and relevant sections and so ;)



 
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RE: [REQ] UAProf suppport

2003-06-17 Thread Himalay Gopu
Bruno
wap 1.2.1 specifications link
http://www.wapforum.org/what/technical_1_2_1.htm

Himalay

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A Ter, 2003-06-17 às 09:22, Stipe Tolj escreveu:
 Hi list,
 
 our REFPOOL tests are doing well. Handset manufacturers claim the lack
 of UAProf support within Kannel.
 
 Can someone please check if UAProf is a mandatory feature for WAP
 1.2.1 (jun)?
 Is there anyone interested to pick this issue up and work on it?

I might be interested (*need 36h per day please*) because this is
related to my current job.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any shortcut that helps me, like wapforum links
to documentation and relevant sections and so ;)



 
 Stipe
 
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