Re: send Arabic sms
Stipe Tolj st 'at' tolj.org writes: in some cases an other option to UCS-2 is possible to obtain the full SMS payload length: In SMPP the DCS value defines the character set encoding. SMPP does not define a reserved value for arrabic, but it may be possible that the SMSC provider has an assigned DCS value for a specific arabic encoding set. Please contact him directly to ask if they have assigned a DCS value for a specific arrabic encoding. Ah, nice to know. But what about SMSC-phone? Your solution supposes that the phones also support an alternative charset for arabic transport? Because if the SMSC needs to recode as UCS2 to send to the phone then the win is minimal (e.g. SMS splitted). -- Guillaume Cottenceau Create your personal SMS or WAP Service - visit http://mobilefriends.ch/
Re: send Arabic sms
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Stipe Tolj st 'at' tolj.org writes: in some cases an other option to UCS-2 is possible to obtain the full SMS payload length: In SMPP the DCS value defines the character set encoding. SMPP does not define a reserved value for arrabic, but it may be possible that the SMSC provider has an assigned DCS value for a specific arabic encoding set. Please contact him directly to ask if they have assigned a DCS value for a specific arrabic encoding. Ah, nice to know. But what about SMSC-phone? Your solution supposes that the phones also support an alternative charset for arabic transport? Because if the SMSC needs to recode as UCS2 to send to the phone then the win is minimal (e.g. SMS splitted). correct... So it's still a tricky thing, since you would depend on the phone and it's support for some (non commonly used) ISO-8x or whatever charset. Stipe --- Kölner Landstrasse 419 40589 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany tolj.org system architecture Kannel Software Foundation (KSF) http://www.tolj.org/ http://www.kannel.org/ mailto:st_{at}_tolj.org mailto:stolj_{at}_kannel.org ---
Re: send Arabic sms
Andreas Fink andreas 'at' fink.org writes: Comparing to other languages, it doesn't make real sense to use some 8bit encoding (like UTF8) for Arabic. I respectfully disagree. Arabic is alphabet-based, so 8bit is more than enough, thus much more efficient. As an example, Arabic Linux distros have long used ISO-8859-6 as system charset; actually, unicode is better suited now, as ISO-8859-6 seems to be a bit broken (I suspect the reason being that computing was mostly designed/standardized by western entities) but theoretically, using 2 bytes per character for an alphabet-based language is wasteful. However, we're going farther and farther from the kannel topic there :) -- Guillaume Cottenceau Create your personal SMS or WAP Service - visit http://mobilefriends.ch/
Re: send Arabic sms
this might be true but I dont think phones have implemented this as its not part of the GSM standard. In other words, even if one OPERATOR has it implemented and one PHONE, its no good as there are always phones on the market whcih wouldnt support it. Unicode is the way to go here. On 25.09.2006, at 11:25, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Andreas Fink andreas 'at' fink.org writes: Comparing to other languages, it doesn't make real sense to use some 8bit encoding (like UTF8) for Arabic. I respectfully disagree. Arabic is alphabet-based, so 8bit is more than enough, thus much more efficient. As an example, Arabic Linux distros have long used ISO-8859-6 as system charset; actually, unicode is better suited now, as ISO-8859-6 seems to be a bit broken (I suspect the reason being that computing was mostly designed/standardized by western entities) but theoretically, using 2 bytes per character for an alphabet-based language is wasteful. However, we're going farther and farther from the kannel topic there :) -- Guillaume Cottenceau Create your personal SMS or WAP Service - visit http:// mobilefriends.ch/
Re: send Arabic sms
alaa a wrote: Hi I read that cygwin 2.510.2.2 has only 600 threads ,so it's not perfect choice to compile kannel1.4.0 using cygwin2.510.2.2 to use it under windows xp. Iwant to ask if there is any way to increase the number of threads in cygwin ?? best regards. first of all, cygwin is currently at version 1.5.x, so I can't figure out what you refer to with version 2.510.x. cygwin has no thread limit AFAIK, at least it's not within pthreads. And that's anyway not the reason for the unstable behaviour. It's more related to mutex locking etc. Stipe --- Kölner Landstrasse 419 40589 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany tolj.org system architecture Kannel Software Foundation (KSF) http://www.tolj.org/ http://www.kannel.org/ mailto:st_{at}_tolj.org mailto:stolj_{at}_kannel.org ---
Re: send Arabic sms
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: alaa a alaa_info2005 'at' hotmail.com writes: Hi every one i use kannel1.4.0 in windows xp i sent English sms using kannel sms gateway and smpp protocol successfully. Now i need to send Arabic sms ,what changes should i do to do that ? You need to use UCS2 (and you have to know that one SMS is limited to 70 characters then). When using the send-sms interface to send an MT, use coding=2 and put the message in the text= field. The message needs to be expressed with the UTF16BE charset. Check the kannel user-guide documentation if needed, these settings are described. Notice: how to convert your message to UTF16BE depends on your software environment and I don't know windoze myself. in some cases an other option to UCS-2 is possible to obtain the full SMS payload length: In SMPP the DCS value defines the character set encoding. SMPP does not define a reserved value for arrabic, but it may be possible that the SMSC provider has an assigned DCS value for a specific arabic encoding set. Please contact him directly to ask if they have assigned a DCS value for a specific arrabic encoding. In any case: use CVS HEAD instead of 1.4.0, it's a 1.4.1RC. Stipe --- Kölner Landstrasse 419 40589 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany tolj.org system architecture Kannel Software Foundation (KSF) http://www.tolj.org/ http://www.kannel.org/ mailto:st_{at}_tolj.org mailto:stolj_{at}_kannel.org ---
Re: send Arabic sms
Hi I read that cygwin 2.510.2.2 has only 600 threads ,so it's not perfect choice to compile kannel1.4.0 using cygwin2.510.2.2 to use it under windows xp. Iwant to ask if there is any way to increase the number of threads in cygwin ?? best regards. From: Stipe Tolj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: alaa a [EMAIL PROTECTED], devel@kannel.org Subject: Re: send Arabic sms Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:52:03 +0200 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: alaa a alaa_info2005 'at' hotmail.com writes: Hi every one i use kannel1.4.0 in windows xp i sent English sms using kannel sms gateway and smpp protocol successfully. Now i need to send Arabic sms ,what changes should i do to do that ? You need to use UCS2 (and you have to know that one SMS is limited to 70 characters then). When using the send-sms interface to send an MT, use coding=2 and put the message in the text= field. The message needs to be expressed with the UTF16BE charset. Check the kannel user-guide documentation if needed, these settings are described. Notice: how to convert your message to UTF16BE depends on your software environment and I don't know windoze myself. in some cases an other option to UCS-2 is possible to obtain the full SMS payload length: In SMPP the DCS value defines the character set encoding. SMPP does not define a reserved value for arrabic, but it may be possible that the SMSC provider has an assigned DCS value for a specific arabic encoding set. Please contact him directly to ask if they have assigned a DCS value for a specific arrabic encoding. In any case: use CVS HEAD instead of 1.4.0, it's a 1.4.1RC. Stipe --- Kölner Landstrasse 419 40589 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany tolj.org system architecture Kannel Software Foundation (KSF) http://www.tolj.org/ http://www.kannel.org/ mailto:st_{at}_tolj.org mailto:stolj_{at}_kannel.org --- _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/