Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

On 09/08/2010 02:43 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
 On 8 September 2010 13:16, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com  wrote:
 First off, I think this is a great idea and very much needed, thanks for
 working on it.

 Cool, thanks. Some positive feedback at last! Too... much... stop... energy...


Oh,

But Adam is not the only one I love this idea too! And I would like to
think there are other silent admirers of this idea too!

I've even considered taken the review for the app data package and approving
it, but then decided that would only raise the controversy surrounding
the app data part.

FWIW I agree with you that for this to be truely user friendly the app
data needs to be present on the system when the user first starts the
app installer. Not sure if dropping it in a package is the best thing
to do though.

Regards,

Hans
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Package Review Stats for last week ending 12th Sept

2010-09-13 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top FAS account holder who has completed reviewing Package review
components on bugzilla for last week ending is Parag AN(पराग).

Parag AN(पराग) : 12

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225973  krb5-auth-dialog
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225994  libcroco (Merge 
Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226004  libfontenc 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226006  libgail-gnome 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226013  libgnomecups 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226015  libgnomekbd 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226017  
libgnomeprintui22
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226019  libgnomeui 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226156  mod_python 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226226  pam_passwdqc 
(Merge Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226227  pam_smb (Merge 
Review)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226370  rhdb-utils 
(Merge Review)


Mamoru Tasaka : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628631  rubygem-httparty
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630054  rubygem-facon


Marcela Mašláňová : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624660  rakudo-star
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629645  perl-Math-Base36


Michael Stahnke : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630480  
rubygem-ruby-debug-base
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630481  
rubygem-ruby-debug


Aurelien Bompard : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625242  clustershell


Ben Boeckel : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624204  
meego-panel-datetime


Chen Lei : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629027  python-ZODB3


Dave Ludlow : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630208  ghc-csv


Erik van Pienbroek : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614047  
mingw32-spice-protocol


Jaroslav Reznik : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614075  libqttracker


Mark Chappell : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318  gnuplot42


Martin Gieseking : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547832  procServ


Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618480  EmfEngine


Peter Robinson : 1

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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Hughes
On 13 September 2010 08:36, Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote:
 But Adam is not the only one I love this idea too! And I would like to
 think there are other silent admirers of this idea too!

Cool, thanks.

 I've even considered taken the review for the app data package and approving
 it, but then decided that would only raise the controversy surrounding
 the app data part.

Right, that bugzilla is a big mess of ego and frustration (myself included).

 FWIW I agree with you that for this to be truely user friendly the app
 data needs to be present on the system when the user first starts the
 app installer. Not sure if dropping it in a package is the best thing
 to do though.

If you could comment on the bugzilla, I believe FESCo is going to
handle it from now on. Thanks.

Richard.
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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-13 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2010-09-08, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well ideally every app that allows font selection should have a button
 / option add new font that opens a font installation dialog.

 To be clear this dialog should not be re implemented by every
 application but being an app started by said applications.

Well, a lot of toolkits uses fontconfig to dispatch font characteristics
to font file and some of them pango to substitute missing glyphs.

One could add a hook into fontconfig library. However I predict strong
opposition in upstream as fontconfig does not need X11 at all:

$ ldd /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fffa1784000)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x0035d7a0)
libexpat.so.1 = /lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x0035d6a0)
libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x0035d0a0)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0035d060)

Maybe some optional dbus code could be included to broadcast request for
missing font. If user had running an appropriate listener (some sort of
packagekit or font selector), he could get an systray alert or popup
window allowing to install missing package.

Other question is: should the hook block the application and retry
fontconfig font selection, or should it be completely asynchronous?

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Re: Recently FTBFS stfl, fails on ruby installation

2010-09-13 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Hi,

 i tested today why stfl FTBFS. I found out that it doesn't installs a
 file into /usr/lib.. but lib/..
 That happens just for the ruby part of stfl, the perl parts getting
 installed into /usr/lib.. just fine.

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2450778name=build.log

 I checked (thanks kalev) the %{!?ruby_sitearch: %global ruby_sitearch
 %(ruby -rrbconfig -e 'puts Config::CONFIG[sitearchdir] ')} macro and
 added two lines:
 echo %ruby_sitearch
 echo `ruby -rrbconfig -e 'puts Config::CONFIG[sitearchdir] '`

 the response is here:
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2451304name=build.log

 I have currently no further idea of what might be wrong. I need
 someone with more knowledge than i have about what's going on, or what
 could be the problem.

 The only different thing i saw, was the new ruby build in f14 and
 rawhide. Though i have no real clue if that *could* be the problem.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2464814

The above scratch build dist-f13 shows that it *was* working. Still i
haven't found what might cause this issue.

Good:
mkdir -p 
/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/stfl-0.21-10.fc13.x86_64/usr/lib64/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
Bad:
mkdir -p lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i386-linux

But why o why

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Re: Fedora 14 Beta Blocker Meeting :: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-09-13 Thread John Poelstra
John Poelstra said the following on 09/09/2010 05:19 PM Pacific Time:
 When: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)
 Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

 Without these bugs fixed we can't compose the Fedora 14 Beta Release
 Candidate on 2010-09-16.



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http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-10/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-10-16.02.log.html
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Meeting summary
---
* roll call  (poelcat, 16:02:51)
   * attendees nirik adamw jlaska poelcat jsmith  (poelcat, 16:05:37)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992  (poelcat,
   16:05:45)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992 waiting
 for a new build, needs to happen soon  (poelcat, 16:07:25)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027  (poelcat,
   16:07:34)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027 asking
 mizmo to update the bug and remind design team of change deadline on
 2010-09-14  (poelcat, 16:12:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239  (poelcat,
   16:13:08)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239 need to
 continue debugging before we can figure out where it needs to be
 fixed  (poelcat, 16:20:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719  (poelcat,
   16:20:22)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719
 attempting to reproduce. If we cannot do so with TC1 testing will
 close INSUFFICIENT_DATA  (poelcat, 16:28:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490  (poelcat,
   16:28:41)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490 fix is in
 hand, maintainer expects to build new package tonight  (poelcat,
 16:45:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781  (poelcat,
   16:45:48)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781 really
 need more information from reporter; if no further information or
 similiar reports by next week, will consider dropping  (poelcat,
 16:53:24)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620  (poelcat,
   16:53:32)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620 fix and
 new packages anticipated this weekend, needs testing by kde, xfce
 and other desktops depending on HAL  (poelcat, 17:05:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489  (poelcat,
   17:05:25)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489 accepted
 as a blocker, fixed needed no later than 2010-09-14  (poelcat,
 17:14:11)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510  (poelcat,
   17:14:18)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510 accepted
 blocker; need to ammend blocker criteria to be more specific, devel
 believes it's an easy fix they expect to make soon  (poelcat,
 17:25:40)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 17:25:44)
   * ACTION: jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to
 accomodate rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)  (jlaska, 17:26:18)

Meeting ended at 17:31:28 UTC.




Action Items

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992 waiting for a new
   build, needs to happen soon
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027 asking mizmo to
   update the bug and remind design team of change deadline on 2010-09-14
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239 need to continue
   debugging before we can figure out where it needs to be fixed
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719 attempting to
   reproduce. If we cannot do so with TC1 testing will close
   INSUFFICIENT_DATA
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490 fix is in hand,
   maintainer expects to build new package tonight
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781 really need more
   information from reporter; if no further information or similiar
   reports by next week, will consider dropping
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620 fix and new
   packages anticipated this weekend, needs testing by kde, xfce and
   other desktops depending on HAL
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489 accepted as a
   blocker, fixed needed no later than 2010-09-14
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510 accepted blocker;
   need to ammend blocker criteria to be more specific, devel believes
   it's an easy fix they expect to make soon
* jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to accomodate
   rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)




Action Items, by person
---
* jlaska
   * jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to accomodate
 rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * 

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 631862 - crash - delete entries not in cache + referint

2010-09-13 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631862

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447020action=diff

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Re: non-responsive maintainer: thomasvs (2nd attempt)

2010-09-13 Thread Julian Sikorski
W dniu 11.09.2010 20:53, Julian Sikorski pisze:
 Dear all,
 
 I unfortunately have to start the non-responsive process for thomasvs
 again [1]. The bug to update twisted to the latest upstream version has
 been opened for several months now [2], and I have also prepared the
 updates myself on a fedorapeople repo [3].In the bug report, all
 responses were positive - I assume other maintainers don't care. Even
 debian has a newer version right now [4].
 It seems that Thomas' last bugzilla activity was on 24th May, and he was
 not responding to my later emails either. My application for
 comaintainership is left untouched as well.
 I'm not sure if this qualifies for the fast track procedure, but the
 long lack of response might favour that.
 Thomas, if you can read this, please accept my twisted
 co-maintainership, and I'll be happy to reduce your burden.
 
 Regards,
 Julian
 
 
 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/131415
 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572372
 [3] http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/belegdol/twisted/
 [4] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/python-twisted
 
After giving it some thought, I decided to go for fast track process:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/463

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Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

= Followups = 

#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351

#topic #382 Implementing Stable Release Vision
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/382

#topic #454 pre-release update acceptance criteria
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/454

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNSSEC_on_workstations
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/434

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GoldLinkerDefault
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/423

= New business =

#topic #461 F14 blessing for systemd
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/461
(note that this is mostly moot, but I would like to see if any of the fesco
folks who did not provide input have anything to add). 

= Fedora Engineering Services tickets = 

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6

= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. 

kevin


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[perl-MIME-Types/el6/master] import from RHEL6 SRPM ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/5.90Workstation/optional/source/SRPMS/p

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Chappell
commit b0b2c86b3963a6c2371e03346cf6bab00a8000a5
Author: Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk
Date:   Mon Sep 13 21:49:08 2010 +0200

import from RHEL6 SRPM 
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/5.90Workstation/optional/source/SRPMS/perl-MIME-Types-1.28-2.el6.src.rpm

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-MIME-Types.spec |5 -
 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 6492eb4..ffc0168 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 MIME-Types-1.28.tar.gz
+/MIME-Types-1.28.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-MIME-Types.spec b/perl-MIME-Types.spec
index c61931c..8589065 100644
--- a/perl-MIME-Types.spec
+++ b/perl-MIME-Types.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-MIME-Types
 Version:1.28
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:MIME types module for Perl
 
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -59,6 +59,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Dec  7 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.28-2
+- rebuild against perl 5.10.1
+
 * Wed Oct  7 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.28-1
 - new upstream version
 
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[perl-Test-MockObject/el6/master] import from RHEL6 SRPM ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/5.90Workstation/optional/source/SRPMS/p

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Chappell
commit a892b97fb4a655717fa4c97e8bbc92909cef9857
Author: Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk
Date:   Mon Sep 13 21:50:41 2010 +0200

import from RHEL6 SRPM 
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/beta/5.90Workstation/optional/source/SRPMS/perl-Test-MockObject-1.09-3.1.el6.src.rpm

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-Test-MockObject.spec |   19 ---
 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 972dca7..581b98f 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 Test-MockObject-1.09.tar.gz
+/Test-MockObject-1.09.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Test-MockObject.spec b/perl-Test-MockObject.spec
index dba876d..72d988f 100644
--- a/perl-Test-MockObject.spec
+++ b/perl-Test-MockObject.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Test-MockObject
 Version:1.09
-Release:6.1%{?dist}
+Release:3.1%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl extension for emulating troublesome interfaces
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -10,7 +10,6 @@ Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CH/CHROMATIC/Test-MockObject-%{
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 BuildArch:  noarch
-BuildRequires:  perl(CGI)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Build)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Exception)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod), perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
@@ -39,8 +38,7 @@ Now you have no excuse.)
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 ./Build install destdir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT create_packlist=0
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
-%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
+chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 
 
 %check
@@ -59,17 +57,8 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
-* Mon Aug 30 2010 Mark Chappell trem...@fedoraproject.org 1.09-6.1
-- EL6 needs the CGI package for the tests to run successfully
-
-* Thu May 06 2010 Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.09-6
-- Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0
-
-* Thu Feb  4 2010 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.09-5
-- 552253 merge review
-
-* Fri Dec  4 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 1.09-4
-- rebuild against perl 5.10.1
+* Thu Dec 03 2009 Dennis Gregorovic dgre...@redhat.com - 1.09-3.1
+- Rebuilt for RHEL 6
 
 * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.09-3
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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koji client does not work through proxy

2010-09-13 Thread Ralph Lange
  Hi,

Today I had to learn that the koji client, while being the only way to 
request a build, does not support proxies.

In a university like environment with no open ports whatsoever, with an 
increasingly paranoid IT group in charge of the firewall and proxy, that 
does not leave a lot of options.
While I was able to ssh tunnel my way out of this miserable situation, I 
think this approach does not work as a general solution.

I realized that this issue has been discussed two years ago [1], but I 
did not find any newer statements.
Is there any work being done (or an intention to do so) to improve the 
situation?

Thanks,
Ralph

[1] 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-August/msg00665.html

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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-13 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 09:36 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 09/08/2010 02:43 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
  On 8 September 2010 13:16, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com  wrote:
  First off, I think this is a great idea and very much needed, thanks for
  working on it.
 
  Cool, thanks. Some positive feedback at last! Too... much... stop... 
  energy...
 
 
 Oh,
 
 But Adam is not the only one I love this idea too! And I would like to
 think there are other silent admirers of this idea too!

 There are a lot of non-silent admirers of this idea too! I love this
idea! All the yum developers and rel-eng love this idea! I've yet to
speak to anyone who doesn't love this idea!
 In fact this thread probably started because yum/rpm/etc. developers
had recently talked about app. install again, so Seth spent half a day
implementing a proof of concept:

http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/ 


 To repeat _nobody_, that I know of, is arguing that we shouldn't do
something. The problem is in rushing from there to XYZ is something. We
should do XYZ.

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Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
One more I would like to add: 

#464 Fix nss update issues
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/464

kevin


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Re: koji client does not work through proxy

2010-09-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Ralph Lange wrote:

   Hi,

 Today I had to learn that the koji client, while being the only way to
 request a build, does not support proxies.

 In a university like environment with no open ports whatsoever, with an
 increasingly paranoid IT group in charge of the firewall and proxy, that
 does not leave a lot of options.
 While I was able to ssh tunnel my way out of this miserable situation, I
 think this approach does not work as a general solution.

 I realized that this issue has been discussed two years ago [1], but I
 did not find any newer statements.
 Is there any work being done (or an intention to do so) to improve the
 situation?

 Thanks,
 Ralph

 [1]
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-August/msg00665.html


You'll need at least some open ports.  443 and 80 I think are the only
ones required for koji builds.

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Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Hughes
On 13 September 2010 21:49, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 So Seth spent half a day implementing a proof of concept:
 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/

Translations?
Icons?
Offline queries?
Co-operating with other distros?
Formal database schema?

Call me biased, but doing things in yum because it's the way it
always used to be carries little weight when the user experience just
sucks really hard. I've been working on app-install now with other
distro people for nearly two years. It was a shame Seth couldn't reuse
some of the schema without just re-implementing the basic idea in
python and shipping a half-baked implementation in yum.

Sometimes I wonder why I should deal with Fedora and all the politics
when Ubuntu and Suse just ship something that works.

Sorry to be blunt, but it's how I feel.

Richard.
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Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Hughes
On 13 September 2010 20:42, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
 this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
 e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
 the open floor topic.

Could you discuss https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488968
as well please. Thanks.

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Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 13:42 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
 meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
 irc.freenode.net.

Apologies, I won't be able to make this, I'll be on a plane headed to
France for XDS.

- ajax


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[389-devel] Please review: [Bug 625014] SubTree Renames: ModRDN operation fails and the server hangs if the entry is moved to under the same DN.

2010-09-13 Thread Noriko Hosoi



https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625014

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447045action=diff
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447045action=edit

Description: adding a check if the newsuperior is the entry itself
or its descendent.  If it is, modrdn returns LDAP_UNWILLING_TO_PERFORM.

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Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 09/11/2010 08:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
 Every one who is use a git everyday knows that it has support of
 joining several repositories in one local repository (especially if it
 has a common base). I would use such feature for packages hosted in
 git repositories.
 So, the idea is to keep 2-in-1:
  - Fedora's git as a holder and main repository
  - upstream/* branches for an upstream sources (real package sources)
 
 Advantages are in keeping things together and simplify maintaining
 packages in Fedora with upstreamed patches (commits).
 It also reminds the Debian's scheme where the repository contains two
 branches and two kind of tags accordingly.
 
 Any suggestions or improvements to this scheme?
 

I've been meaning to explore this path a bit, and add tooling in fedpkg
to set it up initially.  My first feeling is that it'd be a
configuration that lives on your workstation, in your clone, not
something pushed up to pkgs.fp.o.  It would certainly help in getting
patches to/from upstream, and help when we start exploring automated
patch management within packages.

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Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 09/11/2010 04:35 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
 What I remember from FUDCon Toronto was that fedpkg could download the
 tarball, explode it into /tmp or something, do a `git init; git commit
 -a -m Tarball` and then there'd be some way to export patches on top
 of this commit back into the Fedora repository and get the PatchXX: and
 %patchXX lines in the spec easily. Allowing maintainers to push full
 upstream repositories into the Fedora repositories isn't something I'd
 recommend doing. It also makes maintaining git-backed upstreams
 different than other version controls (imagine checking out Qt's
 repository to do a one liner change to the spec file).

This is something slightly different than what Andy was talking about,
and it is still on the horizon.

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Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 09/12/2010 08:55 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
 Ah. I remember some talk about getting a VCS tag in rpm. This is where
 it'd belong IMO. Maybe fedpkg can implement it until rpm gets it?
 

The rpm spec could have a vcs tag, now.  RPM just doesn't do anything
with it.  fedpkg can be made to look for such a tag when you ask it to
create an upstream for that project, and if it doesn't find one in the
spec prompt the user for one, or just fail and ask that the user supply
one with whatever command they were running.

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Re: FF 3.6.9 update for F-13

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 09/12/2010 08:39 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote:
On 09/12/2010 12:50 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
 How did this slip through the cracks? Isn't that a security related
 update?

 No, it didn't slip trough the cracks. Some problems with the nss 3.12.7
 update on which it depends have held up the release for f13 and f12.

That needs to get resolved, indeed.

However, this is a security release, and Bojan is right. We need to get 
this released. Broken libraries typically means we disable system 
libraries, build with the in-tree copy so we can get the bulk of the 
code out to users, and then when the system library is fixed, we can 
build against the system copy.

Martin/Jan, can one of you handle that please if nss is still not yet ready?
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Re: [389-devel] Please review: Only check modrdn ops for backend/suffix correctness if not the default backend

2010-09-13 Thread Noriko Hosoi

 On 09/13/2010 03:42 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

This fix allows the datainterop tests to pass at 100%

ack.
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Open Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs Need to be fixed ASAP

2010-09-13 Thread John Poelstra
Here are the current open Fedora 14 Beta Blocker bugs.

We need built packages and submitted to Bodhi that address each of these 
bugs in order to start the Fedora 14 Beta Release Candidate compose on 
2010-09-16.

If we are unable to start the RC compose on 2010-09-16 it could further 
delay the Fedora 14 Beta and the final release.


629719 :: NEW :: anaconda :: anaconda-maint-l...@redhat.com :: 
FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/md127p3') :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719
--Need more feedback from reporter

628239 :: NEW :: anaconda :: b...@redhat.com :: Fedora 14 Alpha reduced 
graphics creates vesa-using xorg.conf but doesn't blacklist nouveau :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239
--Need more feedback from reporter

633234 :: NEW :: anaconda :: b...@redhat.com :: Previous grub entry is 
not overwritten after upgrade with creating new bootloader :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633234
--Need feedback from maintainer

633523 :: NEW :: empathy :: bdpep...@gmail.com :: Dependency issue block 
empathy installs in F14 :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633523
--Need feedback from maintainer

632489 :: NEW :: anaconda :: rvyky...@redhat.com :: Fail to read package 
metadata after specifying repo= :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489
--Still debugging.  Fix needed soon.

630490 :: ASSIGNED :: systemd :: lpoet...@redhat.com :: disabled units 
still get bus activated :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490

627401 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: clum...@redhat.com :: please create 
systemd default.target symlink pointing to 
/lib/systemd/system/runlevelX.target instead of 
/etc/systemd/system/runlevelX.target :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627401
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

632510 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: clum...@redhat.com :: Installer exited 
abnormally when starting network in rescue mode :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

608992 :: MODIFIED :: livecd-tools :: dh...@redhat.com :: Add Boot 
system with basic video driver option at the initial screen :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

627014 :: MODIFIED :: systemd :: lpoet...@redhat.com :: systemd provided 
telinit does not work as advertised :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627014
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

631620 :: MODIFIED :: systemd :: lpoet...@redhat.com :: ordering cycles 
exist (+ breaking them deletes wrong services) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

622927 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: rvyky...@redhat.com :: F14 Alpha RC2 - 
/etc/resolv.conf gets corrupted, cannot download packages :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622927
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA

621027 :: MODIFIED :: fedora-logos :: tcall...@redhat.com :: Graphical 
screen in anaconda shows F-13 :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027
--Packages need to be submitted to Bodhi so status changes to ON_QA
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Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-13 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:42:02 +0200, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
 this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
 e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
 the open floor topic. 

I find this rejected feature as a natural next step for making the implemented
build-id feature useful
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBuildId

but it got turned down at:
all-versions Koji repository
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2387


Thanks,
Jan
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[Bug 631192] FTBFS perl-Log-Log4perl-1.24-3.fc14

2010-09-13 Thread bugzilla
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Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||632176

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[Bug 632176] perl-Log-Log4perl-1.30 is available

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[Bug 632855] Installing perl-POE bring perl-devel because of perl(POE::Test::Loop)

2010-09-13 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA

--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-09-13 
14:12:42 EDT ---
perl-POE-1.289-2.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 testing repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update perl-POE'.  You can provide
feedback for this update here:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-POE-1.289-2.fc14

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[perl-Lingua-Stem/f14/master] initial import

2010-09-13 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes:

  e34f452... initial import (*)

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[perl-Lingua-Stem/f13/master] initial import

2010-09-13 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes:

  e34f452... initial import (*)

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[Bug 624397] perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.07 is available

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 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.07-
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 Resolution||ERRATA
Last Closed||2010-09-14 00:55:32

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[Bug 624397] perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.07 is available

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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-09-14 
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perl-Class-XSAccessor-1.07-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 stable
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
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