Self Introduction

2011-11-14 Thread Alexey Vasyukov
Hi folks,

This is just one more email on this quite high-traffic list. So, I'd really
appreciate if you read it.

I'm Alexey Vasyukov (FAS username - anganar). I participate in Fedora
Project for about 3 years, and my RHEL / Fedora experience is about 7
years. I work at MIPT (Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology).

I have found recently that one of the research groups at MIPT uses Gmsh
engineering software at workstations powered by Fedora and HPC cluster
powered by RHEL. However, Gmsh is not packaged for Fedora and RHEL. So, I'd
like to contribute this package to make setup for these guys a bit simplier.

Review request - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753577

I kindly ask you to review it and, if possible, sponsor me.


Kind regards,
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Re: rawhide report: 20111113 changes

2011-11-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 01:17:41PM +, Rawhide Report wrote:
 Compose started at Sun Nov 13 08:15:32 UTC 2011
 
 Broken deps for x86_64
 --
   i3-4.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64 requires libyajl.so.1()(64bit)

This simply requires a rebuild to pick up the new libyajl soname. I would
have done it myself, but I'm not a proven packager I notified the
maintainer but not hear back yet, so if any provenpackager can take care
of it...

   perl-Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.85-9.fc16.noarch requires 
 perl(Test::YAML::Meta::Version) = 0:0.11
   perl-Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.85-9.fc16.noarch requires 
 perl(Test::YAML::Meta::Version)

I'll sort this out.


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[Bug 751751] perl-IO-Socket-SSL failing to return last line of data

2011-11-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751751

--- Comment #9 from Trever Adams night...@hotmail.com 2011-11-14 04:30:57 EST 
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This may have fixed the problem with ddclient being abusive with dyndns. I will
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Re: texlive 2010 or 2011 in Fedora

2011-11-14 Thread heiterbisstuermig

Hi,
There is a version of texlive-2011 for Fedora 16. You can get it from

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive

Greetings
Christoph


On 11/13/2011 06:31 PM, Henrique Junior wrote:

Hi, in F16 we are still using texlive-2007.
Any plans to bring more updated texlive versions to F16 (or F17)?

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Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Ola Thoresen
Just reinstalled two servers with F16 this weekend, and IPv6 seems to be 
working fine in NetworkManager.

There is - however - one option I am missing: Some form of combined 
static and dynamic configuration.
IE. I want the server to obtain an IPv6-address dynamically, but i ALSO 
want it to have one (or more) static IP-address(es) in the same prefix.

So on boot, NetworkManager recieves something like
  2001:840:0:11:21d:9ff:fe07:638c/64

Based on this prefix, it should also configure the interface with
  2001:840:0:11::10/64
and
  2001:840:0:11::20/64

That would make installation and configuration of IPv6-servers a lot 
easier, as you do not need to turn off dynamic addresses to give the 
server a static address.

(I'd love to have the same feature in IPv4 too, but currently my main 
focus is IPv6, so that is my main cincern right now).




Rgds.

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Re: rawhide report: 20111113 changes

2011-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 01:17:41PM +, Rawhide Report wrote:
 Compose started at Sun Nov 13 08:15:32 UTC 2011

 Broken deps for x86_64
 --
       i3-4.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64 requires libyajl.so.1()(64bit)

 This simply requires a rebuild to pick up the new libyajl soname. I would
 have done it myself, but I'm not a proven packager I notified the
 maintainer but not hear back yet, so if any provenpackager can take care
 of it...

I've bumped the Release and pushed a build.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3512210

Cheers,
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Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 01:28 AM, Ian Kent wrote:
 Anyway, I'll start work on the logging changes and add a unit file and
 see how we go. Should autofs install the unit file into the systemd area
 or what should do?

So the final unit file should look something like this...

### autofs.service ###

[Unit]
Description=Automounts filesystems on demand
After=network.target ypbind.service

[Service]
Type=forking
PIDFile=/run/autofs.pid
EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/autofs
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/automount ${OPTIONS} --pid-file /run/autofs.pid

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target


You can find the packaging guidelines for systemd here

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd

Pay attention to the section that says drop the legacy sysv init script 
file or package it separately should it be shipped ( which makes no 
sense once a unit file is in place ) along with make sure that your unit 
file have correct file permissions.

Maintainers/Packagers shipping both the legacy sysv init script along 
with having incorrect file permissions on unit files ( for example 
auditd.service ip6tables.service iptables.service openvpn@.service 
wpa_supplicant.service that are part of default install come all with 
incorrect file permissons ( +x ) ).

The issue mention above seem to be the common mistakes/violations of the 
packaging guidelines when shipping native systemd units.

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Re: Is FAS (Fedora Account System) broken?

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Tkac
On 11/12/2011 09:58 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:10:09PM +0100, Gregor Tätzner wrote:
 Am Freitag, 11. November 2011, 10:47:12 schrieb Adam Tkac:
 Hello,

 today I tried to upload new bind tarball via `fedpkg new-sources`
 command but it failed with
 pycurl.error: (60, 'Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given
 CA certificates') error.
 I have a similar problem when working with git - F16 updates-testing: 
 git fetch
 error: Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with given CA certificates 
 while 
 accessing https://brum...@github.com...fatal: HTTP request failed

 These seem to be a problem with the F16 nss update that is in
 updates-testing.  Downgrading from that should make this work.


 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15612

 -Toshio

It was nss issue, thanks for the hint!

A
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Re: daemon(7) (was: Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit)

2011-11-14 Thread Jan Vcelak
$ rpm -qf /usr/share/man/man7/daemon.7.gz 
systemd-37-3.fc16.x86_64

- Original Message -
 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:22:02PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
  Please have a look at the check list in daemon(7).
 
 What package is that man page in?
 
 $ man 7 daemon
 No manual entry for daemon in section 7
 
 Also, a google search for man 7 daemon, daemon(7), daemon man
 page, man daemon section 7, etc turns up nothing.
 
 There is a man page for daemon(3), but it doesn't look like the man
 page
 you seem to be citing.
 
 Thanks!
 
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low-memory *printf deadlocks with latest glibc in -testing and rawhide

2011-11-14 Thread Jim Meyering
So far I've only noticed it via a test, but everyone uses *printf,
and malloc is implicated due to recent arena-related changes:

malloc deadlock makes *printf hang
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/753601

With glibc-2.14.90-15.2.x86_64 (f16-testing and rawhide), this hangs:

( ulimit -v 1; env printf %2000f 0 )

Hah!  As I was writing this, I noticed a new glibc commit.

http://sources.redhat.com/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5fb313cb7b7e692fd4684916aaa98e03ec7e8b6

Thanks for the quick fix, Andreas!
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Re: daemon(7)

2011-11-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/12/2011 02:33 PM, Scott Schmit wrote:
 What package is that man page in?

 $ man 7 daemon
 No manual entry for daemon in section 7

 Also, a google search for man 7 daemon, daemon(7), daemon man
 page, man daemon section 7, etc turns up nothing.

As others already pointed out, it in the systemd package.
It is also available online:
http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/daemon.html

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Re: F17 heads up: X server git snapshots

2011-11-14 Thread Mystilleef
Hello,

Wow, I read this a little too late. I did an update, using
--skip-broken, today and now Xorg is broken. I use the open source ati
drivers. The Xorg log indicates a version mismatch between Xorg and
the drivers. Is there a way to reverse or fix this?

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Re: Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:06:36AM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 
 There is - however - one option I am missing: Some form of combined 
 static and dynamic configuration.
 IE. I want the server to obtain an IPv6-address dynamically, but i ALSO 
 want it to have one (or more) static IP-address(es) in the same prefix.

Not sure if you want to solve this exclusively in network manager, or
am just looking for a solution.. but, adding a IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES to
your ifcfg-eth* files should achieve this.


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Re: Getting grub launching the installer

2011-11-14 Thread Henrik Nordström
lör 2011-11-12 klockan 09:04 -0500 skrev Sam Varshavchik:
 For the longest time, I was able to upgrade an existing system by copying  
 over the pxeboot vmlinuz and initrd.img, sticking them into menu.lst, and  
 directing grub to load them.

This is also how I install. Have worked fine with both F15  F16 for me.

Things you can try are

a) Disable kms.

b) Turn on more debug output from the kernel

Regards
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rawhide report: 20111114 changes

2011-11-14 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Nov 14 08:15:27 UTC 2011

Broken deps for x86_64
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Re: F17 heads up: X server git snapshots

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 06:48 -0500, Mystilleef wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Wow, I read this a little too late. I did an update, using
 --skip-broken, today and now Xorg is broken. I use the open source ati
 drivers. The Xorg log indicates a version mismatch between Xorg and
 the drivers. Is there a way to reverse or fix this?

Get the list of X packages you have installed, download the F16 builds
of same from koji, and downgrade to them.  Something like this perhaps:

$ rpm -qa --qf=%{name}\n xorg-x11-\* | xargs -n 1 koji download-build
--latestfrom=f16-updates --arch=$(arch)
$ sudo rpm -Uvh --oldpackage xorg-x11-*$(arch).rpm

Probably there's a way to achieve the same thing that won't end with yum
complaining about the rpmdb being modified behind its back, but meh.

- ajax


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Re: F17 heads up: X server git snapshots

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Jackson wrote:
 Probably there's a way to achieve the same thing that won't end with yum
 complaining about the rpmdb being modified behind its back, but meh.

# sudo yum downgrade ./xorg-x11-*$(arch).rpm
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Plan for today's FESCo meeting (2011-11-14 at 18UTC)

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting today at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

Links to all tickets below can be found at: 
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

= Followups =

#topic #667 Request to fix CRITPATH update process
.fesco 667

#topic #692 Adjust FESCo election policy
.fesco 692

#topic #690 F17 Feature: move all to /usr
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
.fesco 690

= New business =

#topic #693 IPv6 support requirement in Fedora package
.fesco 693

#topic #694 Consider sanctions against glibc
.fesco 694

#topic #695 Recommend 64-bit download by default
.fesco 695

#topic #696 F17 Feature: Gnome Shell Configurability -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GnomeShellConfigurability
.fesco 696

#topic #697 F17 Feature - ConsoleKit Removal/Automatic Multi-Seat
Support - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval None
.fesco 697

#topic #698 F17Feature: SysV to Systemd -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd None
.fesco 698

#topic Consider including bash-completion package by default (base, not
core)
.fesco 689

= Open Floor = 

#topic Open Floor

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.


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File App-perlbrew-0.33.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-11-14 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perlbrew:

3efc9e895843427edd2062f999c9cc7b  App-perlbrew-0.33.tar.gz
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[perlbrew] update to 0.33

2011-11-14 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 80c6d2baf966f400d06348add1ade0d3891e6e43
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Mon Nov 14 16:51:09 2011 +0100

update to 0.33

 .gitignore|1 +
 perlbrew.spec |5 -
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index af6a93b..aedb64c 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -12,3 +12,4 @@
 /App-perlbrew-0.28.tar.gz
 /App-perlbrew-0.29.tar.gz
 /App-perlbrew-0.32.tar.gz
+/App-perlbrew-0.33.tar.gz
diff --git a/perlbrew.spec b/perlbrew.spec
index b6fb550..02df80c 100644
--- a/perlbrew.spec
+++ b/perlbrew.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perlbrew
-Version:0.32
+Version:0.33
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Manage perl installations in your $HOME
 License:MIT
@@ -73,6 +73,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Nov 14 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.33-1
+- update to latest upstream version
+
 * Mon Nov 14 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.32-1
 - update to latest upstream version
 - add additional runtime requires
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 06406a4..d99bc63 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-da56334934e57f8a38624917b4009fa6  App-perlbrew-0.32.tar.gz
+3efc9e895843427edd2062f999c9cc7b  App-perlbrew-0.33.tar.gz
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Re: F17 heads up: X server git snapshots

2011-11-14 Thread Benny Amorsen
Mystilleef mystill...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Wow, I read this a little too late. I did an update, using
 --skip-broken, today and now Xorg is broken. I use the open source ati
 drivers. The Xorg log indicates a version mismatch between Xorg and
 the drivers. Is there a way to reverse or fix this?

yum history followed by yum history undo?


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Bug 737387 and Fedora 14

2011-11-14 Thread David Shaw
Hi,

Bug 737387 fixes a race condition that can cause fork() in a multithreaded 
program to lock up.

I can confirm that the issue fixed in bug 737387 exists in Fedora 14 as well.  
Fedora 14 isn't at end of life just yet (though it's close!).  Is there any 
chance of getting a glibc update for 14 with this fix?

Thanks,

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Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that 
fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging 
group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the 
body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely 
packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to 
a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.

There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can 
add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and 
just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate 
gets elected.

Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?
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Re: Bug 737387 and Fedora 14

2011-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:11 PM, David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Bug 737387 fixes a race condition that can cause fork() in a multithreaded 
 program to lock up.

 I can confirm that the issue fixed in bug 737387 exists in Fedora 14 as well. 
  Fedora 14 isn't at end of life just yet (though it's close!).  Is there any 
 chance of getting a glibc update for 14 with this fix?

I would second that, OLPC is using F-14 for our current stable release
(moving to track rawhide for the next release) and I would love to see
a fix before F-14 is EOL.

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
 fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
 group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
 body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely
 packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to
 a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.

 There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can
 add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
 gets elected.

 Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?

Sounds reasonable to me, is changes to FESCo something that needs to
be approved by the Board? (adding f-a-b mailing list for
clarification).

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/14/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrettmj...@srcf.ucam.org  wrote:
 Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
 fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
 group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
 body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely
 packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to
 a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.

 There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can
 add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
 gets elected.

 Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?

 Sounds reasonable to me, is changes to FESCo something that needs to
 be approved by the Board? (adding f-a-b mailing list for
 clarification).

 Peter

Multidisciplinary membership is good.  However, please keep a balance in 
that no one group is over represented.

Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community? 
  Should provide a nice balance to the technical side.


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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel
clydekunkel7...@cox.net wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrettmj...@srcf.ucam.org  wrote:
 Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
 fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
 group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
 body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely
 packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to
 a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.

 There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can
 add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
 gets elected.

 Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?

 Sounds reasonable to me, is changes to FESCo something that needs to
 be approved by the Board? (adding f-a-b mailing list for
 clarification).

 Peter

 Multidisciplinary membership is good.  However, please keep a balance in
 that no one group is over represented.

That wasn't really the point. It was just about who is eligible to be
elected. No per group quotas.

 Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community?
  Should provide a nice balance to the technical side.

That does not make sense. Why should a non-technical member be in
the body that make technical decisions?
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Re: A small request

2011-11-14 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Lun 14 novembre 2011 15:36, Adam Jackson a écrit :

 Did --skip-broken not do what you'd wanted?

Yesterday evening skip-broken would install new xorg drivers but not the
server package, and x would die on startup stating modules are at abi version
12, but server only at abi version 11 (or something like that, I'm
reconstructing from memory)

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Re: A small request

2011-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Hi,

 For example, xorg-x11 is currently messed up for a number of
 subpackages (as is libreoffice - poppler seems broken again). What
 would be great would be if when xorg-x11 is rebuild, all of the
 xorg-x11 subpackages are automagically rebuilt and if one of those
 fails, then the main package fails and so some of the rawhide issues
 get avoided and nice things like the x server stays up.

 Did --skip-broken not do what you'd wanted?

Unfortunately not. While it has prevented libreoffice from installing,
something else is saying that there is an ABI problem with vesa,
openchrome and neuveau now which the --skip-broken didn't stop getting
through.

What I'm thinking is that if (say) xorg-x11 is built, the drivers also
get built to ensure the likes of the ABI problem I've hit doesn't
happen

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Re: texlive 2010 or 2011 in Fedora

2011-11-14 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Lun 14 novembre 2011 10:52, heiterbisstuermig a écrit :
 Hi,
 There is a version of texlive-2011 for Fedora 16. You can get it from

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive

However, this work is still not imported in Fedora, so it would be nice if
interested TEX users could help Jindrich Novy wrap it up

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Re: A small request

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 16:44 +, Paul Johnson wrote:

 What I'm thinking is that if (say) xorg-x11 is built, the drivers also
 get built to ensure the likes of the ABI problem I've hit doesn't
 happen

I understand the desire, yes.  I was expressing surprise that I hadn't
adequately guarded you from desiring it.

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
 fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
 group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
 body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely
 packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to
 a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.

 There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can
 add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
 gets elected.

 Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?

 Sounds reasonable to me, is changes to FESCo something that needs to
 be approved by the Board? (adding f-a-b mailing list for
 clarification).



This is an election policy - and traditionally those have completely
been within the purview of the body to which they apply(e.g. this is
all FESCo's bailiwick, no need for the Board to meddle)
I would caution about imminent changes to an election policy now that
the process has already begun. (e.g., nominations are now over, so
changing the rules at this point about who is eligible should be
carefully considered, perhaps any changes put in place could have an
effective date after the current elections cycle.) ((actually -
meta-note here - FESCo doesn't follow the same nomination period that
the other elected bodies do, per their election policy they can
nominate themselves up to 3 days before voting commences[0], so
perhaps that isn't too painful to change - however, I don't think
anyone has actually acted according to those guidelines in some time,
perhaps that should also be considered for change by FESCo as well)

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gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Honza Horak
Hi,

GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.

Cheers,

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Re: cisco vpn because of ipsec over tcp

2011-11-14 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 09:08:05PM +0400, Lucas wrote:
 I am talking about ipsec over TCP.
 
 Everything can do ipsec over UDP, but none over TCP. But on my job for the 
 security reason UDP is 
 blocked, cisco vpn can do ipsec over tcp.

  It seems you have your layering wrong. IPSec operates on IP protocol, below 
UDP and TCP.  Only
IKE, the key exchange, protocol works on UDP. Maybe you thought about different 
technology?  
For VPN, OpenVPN provided in Fedora support TCP transport.

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Re: Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:43:10PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 
 So you say that both
 
 IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
 IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES=2001:840:0:11::30/64
 
 Shoudl work?
 (Have not tested yet, but might do that later today).

I believe

IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6ADDR=2001:840:0:11::30/64

should work and give you both the static IPV6ADDR plus a dynamic address
from RA. At least with that config I'm getting these addresses:

  inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012::5/64 Scope:Global# IPV6ADDR
  inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012:21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Global # RA
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Link # link local

I think you only need IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES if you need to add more than
one static address. So for your original example:

IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6ADDR=2001:840:0:11::10/64
IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES=2001:840:0:11::20/64


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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
 Hi,
 
 GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.

A quick scan says this affects:

avahi-ui-tools (LGPLv2)
gnu-smalltalk (GPLv2+ with exceptions)
jpilot-backup (GPLv2+)
libguestfs (LGPLv2+)
librep (GPLv2+)
man-db (GPLv2+ and GPLv3+)
perl (unholy)
perl-XML-LibXSLT (GPL+ or Artistic)
q (GPLv2+)
ruby-libs ((Ruby or GPLv2) and (GPL+ or Artistic))
ypserv (GPLv2)

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 04:19:50PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
  Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
  fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
  group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
  body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely
  packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to
  a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.
 
  There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can
  add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and
  just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
  gets elected.
 
  Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?
 
 Sounds reasonable to me, is changes to FESCo something that needs to
 be approved by the Board? (adding f-a-b mailing list for
 clarification).
 
Which option sounds reasonable? ;-)

Traditionally, Board approval is not needed here and I don't think
I personally would want to see that change at this point in time (not broke,
don't fix).

-Toshio


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ARM Architecture - Package Updates in git

2011-11-14 Thread Chris Tyler
The ARM Secondary Arch project[0] is working on an F15 release for the
existing armv5tel architecture as well as the new armv7hl architecture
(with hardfp ABI). This effort has been previously announced and is
ongoing. A number of minor package changes are required as a result of
this effort:

(1) In a number of spec files, hardcoded armv5tel references (or other
arm arch names) need to be changed to %{arm}
(2) F15 brings arm-compatible releases of a number of languages, such as
ocaml. Therefore packages which were previously %ignorearch %{arm} can
now be built on arm.
(3) Arch-specific conditionals may be required for alternate build
dependencies, flags, or steps (e.g., tests failing due to test flaws on
ARM rather than flaws in the built software).

Patches for these minor changes will be directly applied to
F15/F16/master branches in accordance with
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages#Minor.2C_general_or_cleanup_changes
 ; larger changes will be filed as bugs, where appropriate.

The list of affected packages (growing) is at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap_package_status#Packages_Needing_ARM_Patches_Upstreamed

-Chris

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 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm ;
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no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
Looking at http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log
(and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/
directory isn't being created in the composes.

anyone have info on what's broken ?

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Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Jesse Keating
On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
 Looking at 
 http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log
 (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/
 directory isn't being created in the composes.
 
 anyone have info on what's broken ?
 
   Dave


We don't make images for Rawhide, we haven't for a number of releases now.  
Images only get turned on when we branch.

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[Bug 746196] perlbrew-0.33 is available

2011-11-14 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746196

Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2011-11-14 13:34:05

--- Comment #4 from Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2011-11-14 13:34:05 EST ---
0.33 is in rawhide now.

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=273969

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:15:05 +,
  Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that 
 fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging 
 group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the 
 body with technical oversight over the entire project, not merely 
 packaging, and in that situation it seems odd to restrict membership to 
 a subset of the people under fesco's pervue.
 
 There's a few things we can do here. We can keep the status quo. We can 
 add new groups such as qa. Or we can open it to the entire project and 
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate 
 gets elected.
 
 Anyone have opinions on what we should be doing here?

I'd like to see it opened up a bit. I think at least some people in the
QA team have a strong technical background and would be good to have
on FESCO.

The issue that came up in the discussion was that there is a good group
to use to include for QA. The qa group isn't really used and proventesters
is a bit broad and its future is in question. One possible solution is
to start using the qa group to track the core members of the qa team.
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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 11/14/2011 07:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
 Hi,

 GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.
 
 A quick scan says this affects:
[...]
 ypserv (GPLv2)

This one looks like an incompatibility.
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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:46 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 07:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
  On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
  Hi,
 
  GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.
  
  A quick scan says this affects:
 [...]
  ypserv (GPLv2)
 
 This one looks like an incompatibility.

Without going into details (in that I haven't read the source or the
licenses in detail, just the GPL compatibility matrix) those are _all_
likely incompatibilities.

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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Iain Arnell
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:46 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 07:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
  On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
  Hi,
 
  GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.
 
  A quick scan says this affects:
 [...]
  ypserv (GPLv2)

 This one looks like an incompatibility.

 Without going into details (in that I haven't read the source or the
 licenses in detail, just the GPL compatibility matrix) those are _all_
 likely incompatibilities.

Also without reading the source, just the license tags, all of those
Lessers and pluses make most of them compatible. Even Perl's
unholy license (really (GPL+ or Artistic) and (GPLv2+ or Artistic)
and Copyright Only and MIT and Public Domain and UCD) as a whole
basically boils down to GPLv2+ which is okay (and in reality, it's
only the (GPL+ or Artistic) bits that link with gdbm). The only other
incompatibility seems to be ruby-libs with (Ruby or GPLv2).

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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:57:20PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
  Hi,
  
  GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.
 
 A quick scan says this affects:

 libguestfs (LGPLv2+)

The LGPLv2+ libguestfs.so library does not link to libgdbm.so. So AFAICT,
the libgdbm.so dependancy in the libguestfs RPM is solely for the generated
appliance image which runs in the QEMU guest, and thus has no bearing on
the libguestfs.so license.

CC'ing rjones to confirm.

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printing

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi gang,

I'm having a problem that I haven't had for years. With each upgrade since
maybe 2005 until Fedora 16, I have been able to install the xqx driver for
my HP P1005 with no problems; I just followed the directions at
http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/. But with Fedora 16 it is not working. Is there
any way that you could help? Is there a command that I am missing in the
printing software?

Thanks for the help.

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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 14/11/2011 20:12, Iain Arnell a écrit :

 Also without reading the source, just the license tags, all of those
 Lessers and pluses make most of them compatible. Even Perl's
 unholy license (really (GPL+ or Artistic) and (GPLv2+ or Artistic)
 and Copyright Only and MIT and Public Domain and UCD) as a whole
 basically boils down to GPLv2+ which is okay (and in reality, it's
 only the (GPL+ or Artistic) bits that link with gdbm). The only other
 incompatibility seems to be ruby-libs with (Ruby or GPLv2).


Ruby 1.9.3 has been released 2 weeks ago and relicensed under Ruby or 
BSD 2-clauses, so it's time to ditch good ol' Ruby 1.8.7*

Best regards,
H.

PS: why the hell are we still shipping this crap ? Ruby 1.9.x has been 
the stable branch for almost three years, now. Upstream has decided to 
stop providing bugfixes for Ruby 1.8.7 by june 2012 and CVE fixes by 
june 2013.
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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 06:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 The issue that came up in the discussion was that there is a good group
 to use to include for QA. The qa group isn't really used and proventesters
 is a bit broad and its future is in question. One possible solution is
 to start using the qa group to track the core members of the qa team.

So the QA group will be restored to it's previous functionality along 
with it's members right

We have kept it very hard to not make any kind of distinction in the QA 
community everybody's treated equal no one is better then the next man 
and everybody have to follow the same procedures while having as little 
entry level as possible and now you are proposing that we shatter that 
by reintroducing team elite and label people part of core or not part 
of core.

That alone is something that needs to be discussed with the QA community 
itself.

By the way there arent any official ruling body of QA and those that are 
doing most the work a.k.a so called core members of the QA team are 
the once subscribed to the Red Hat check and are doing so as a part of 
their $dayjob and perhaps on their free time as well I dont know.

The real issue here is that it seems to be popular amongst candidates to 
slap some kind of QA statement into their candidacy even if those 
individual have never been part of the QA community et all atleast not 
to any large extent and that has somehow be tied with the QA Community 
general.

People that are involved usually don't need any introduction or be tied 
to any subgroup within the project their track record speaks for 
themselves so in all fairness either keep status quo or drop all 
requirements and let user keep what ever they voted over themselves as a 
result of that.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2011-11-14 at 18UTC)

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-11-14)
===

Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-14/fesco.2011-11-14-18.00.log.html

Meeting summary
---
* init process  (nirik, 18:00:01)

* #667 Request to fix CRITPATH update process  (nirik, 18:02:21)
  * will defer this for a week looking for more input from QA/Tester
folks.  (nirik, 18:03:41)
  * AGREED: will defer this for a week looking for more input from
QA/Tester folks.  (nirik, 18:03:53)

* #692 Adjust FESCo election policy  (nirik, 18:04:00)
  * ACTION: defer to next week, collect feedback and revisit.  (nirik,
18:19:36)

* #690 F17 Feature: move all to /usr
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove  (nirik, 18:19:50)
  * ACTION: : -4 votes, +4 votes, feature owners will consult with
remaining fesco member in ticket.  (nirik, 18:41:38)
  * ACTION: nirik to file FPC ticket for looking over things vs
guidelines.  (nirik, 18:41:55)

* #693 IPv6 support requirement in Fedora package  (nirik, 18:43:09)
  * AGREED: tell maintainer to please support listening on both ipv4 and
ipv6 in vsftpd. additionally, file FPC ticket to ask them to add a
'SHOULD: should support both ipv6 and ipv4 connections if support
exists' ?  (nirik, 18:54:15)
  * ACTION: nirik to file FPC ticket about ipv6 support.  (nirik,
18:59:14)

* #694 Consider sanctions against glibc  (nirik, 19:00:12)
  * AGREED: remove ownership/acls for current glibc maintainer on the
glibc package.  (nirik, 19:10:39)
  * LINK:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/schwab?acls=owneracls=approveaclsacls=commit
(abadger1999, 19:12:06)

* #695 Recommend 64-bit download by default  (nirik, 19:12:53)
  * LINK:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2011-November/011037.html
(nirik, 19:17:05)
  * LINK:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2011-November/011037.html
(abadger1999, 19:17:19)
  * AGREED: will promote 64bit as default for f17. websites to determine
the best way to present things.  (nirik, 19:23:52)

* #696 F17 Feature: Gnome Shell Configurability
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GnomeShellConfigurability
  (nirik, 19:24:30)
  * AGREED: Feature is rejected at this time. Feature owner should work
with desktop team/gnome upstream.  (nirik, 19:27:31)

* #697 F17 Feature - ConsoleKit Removal/Automatic Multi-Seat Support -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval None  (nirik,
  19:27:35)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 19:29:45)

* #698 F17Feature: SysV to Systemd -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd  (nirik,
  19:30:17)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 19:31:29)

* Consider including bash-completion package by default (base, not core)
  (nirik, 19:31:33)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 19:32:37)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:32:56)
  * ACTION: mjg59 to chair next week.  (nirik, 19:37:19)

Meeting ended at 19:39:11 UTC.




Action Items

* defer to next week, collect feedback and revisit.
* : -4 votes, +4 votes, feature owners will consult with remaining fesco
  member in ticket.
* nirik to file FPC ticket for looking over things vs guidelines.
* nirik to file FPC ticket about ipv6 support.
* mjg59 to chair next week.




Action Items, by person
---
* mjg59
  * mjg59 to chair next week.
* nirik
  * nirik to file FPC ticket for looking over things vs guidelines.
  * nirik to file FPC ticket about ipv6 support.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * defer to next week, collect feedback and revisit.
  * : -4 votes, +4 votes, feature owners will consult with remaining
fesco member in ticket.




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* abadger1999 (37)
* sgallagh (30)
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* pjones (25)
* haraldh (21)
* drago01 (19)
* mmaslano (17)
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18:01:16 mmaslano hi
18:01:32 * cwickert is here but needs to 

Re: printing

2011-11-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/14/2011 02:27 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
 Hi gang,

 I'm having a problem that I haven't had for years. With each upgrade
 since maybe 2005 until Fedora 16, I have been able to install the xqx
 driver for my HP P1005 with no problems; I just followed the directions
 at http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/. But with Fedora 16 it is not working. Is
 there any way that you could help? Is there a command that I am missing
 in the printing software?

Don't know if it is helpful but I had trouble installing my Lexmark C610 
on a USB parallel port adapter using the desktop tool (it recognized the 
printer but did nothing when I clicked to add it).
I installed system-config-printer, which was not in a default install 
set, and that installed the printer just fine.
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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 11/14/2011 08:59 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:46 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 07:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
 Hi,

 GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+.

 A quick scan says this affects:
 [...]
 ypserv (GPLv2)

 This one looks like an incompatibility.
 
 Without going into details (in that I haven't read the source or the
 licenses in detail, just the GPL compatibility matrix) those are _all_
 likely incompatibilities.

A lot of GPLv2+ and GPL+ software as well as things under other licenses
in Fedora link to GPLv3+ libraries and I believe that's not considered a
problem as long as the former licenses are upgradable to GPLv3+ (which
GPLv2 is not).  For an example, see what links with readline:

repoquery --repoid=rawhide --qf=%{NAME}: %{LICENSE} \
--whatrequires --exactdeps libreadline*.so*

(Yep, there are some potential problem cases in that list as well, at
least the GPLv2 ones.)
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Anyone interested in abi-compatibility-checker?

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Shaw
I was looking for a way to check abi compatibility for a package I
maintain that does not control API/ABI compatibility and found this:

http://forge.ispras.ru/projects/abi-compliance-checker

I already have it packaged for my own use so I thought I'd check to
see if anyone else is interested in it, and if so, if someone will
want to review it.

Thanks,
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Re: cisco vpn because of ipsec over tcp

2011-11-14 Thread Christian Krause
Hi,

Fedora ships the open source vpnc client which supports the Cisco VPN
environment. I'm using it daily and it works for me without any problems.

There is also a proprietary client from Cisco:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps2308/index.html .

On 11/14/2011 06:34 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 09:08:05PM +0400, Lucas wrote:
 I am talking about ipsec over TCP.

 Everything can do ipsec over UDP, but none over TCP. But on my job for the 
 security reason UDP is 
 blocked, cisco vpn can do ipsec over tcp.
 
   It seems you have your layering wrong. IPSec operates on IP protocol, below 
 UDP and TCP.  Only
 IKE, the key exchange, protocol works on UDP. Maybe you thought about 
 different technology?  
 For VPN, OpenVPN provided in Fedora support TCP transport.

To clarify the misunderstanding: Cisco's VPN concentrator provides the
feature IPSec over TCP.

Unfortunately, vpnc does not support it:

man 8 vpnc:
[...]
 --natt-mode natt/none/force-natt/cisco-udp
Which NAT-Traversal Method to use:
·  natt -- NAT-T as defined in RFC3947
·  none -- disable use of any NAT-T method
·  force-natt -- always use NAT-T encapsulation even without
   presence  of  a NAT device (useful if the OS captures all
   ESP traffic)
·  cisco-udp -- Cisco proprietary  UDP  encapsulation,  com‐
   monly over Port 1
Note: cisco-tcp encapsulation is not yet supported
Default: natt
 conf-variable: NAT Traversal Mode natt/none/force-natt/cisco-udp
[...]

So it looks like that for your use case (connecting to a Cisco VPN using
IPSec over TCP) you have to use Cisco's proprietary client.


Best regards,
Christian
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Re: Anyone interested in abi-compatibility-checker?

2011-11-14 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
Yes, I'll review it.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was looking for a way to check abi compatibility for a package I
 maintain that does not control API/ABI compatibility and found this:

 http://forge.ispras.ru/projects/abi-compliance-checker

 I already have it packaged for my own use so I thought I'd check to
 see if anyone else is interested in it, and if so, if someone will
 want to review it.

 Thanks,
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Re: printing

2011-11-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/11/11 19:27, Richard Vickery wrote:
 Hi gang,

 I'm having a problem that I haven't had for years. With each upgrade
 since maybe 2005 until Fedora 16, I have been able to install the xqx
 driver for my HP P1005 with no problems; I just followed the directions
 at http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/. But with Fedora 16 it is not working. Is
 there any way that you could help? Is there a command that I am missing
 in the printing software?

 Thanks for the help.

 Richard



yum install hplip hplip-gui system-config-printer


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Re: Anyone interested in abi-compatibility-checker?

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
 Yes, I'll review it.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753900

It's perl based so if you're not familiar with perl packaging (this is
my first perl package) it might help to get someone from the perl-sig
to review it as well.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Anyone interested in abi-compatibility-checker?

2011-11-14 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
If its perl, I'm probably not qualified. Anyone else want to take this?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
 nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
 Yes, I'll review it.

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753900

 It's perl based so if you're not familiar with perl packaging (this is
 my first perl package) it might help to get someone from the perl-sig
 to review it as well.

 Thanks,
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Virtual Fedora Activity Day: Fedora Hosted 2.0 (2011-11-16 at 20UTC)

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. 

Fedora Infrastructure is in the planning stages for migrating
fedorahosted.org over to new hardware. As part of this planning we
would like to hold a Virtual Fedora Activity day in the #fedora-fad
IRC channel on freenode. 
(or any other places that make sense after we organize in #fedora-fad)

Things we are going to work on/plan: 

* Migrating fedorahosted.org to new hardware, possibly splitting it out
  into multiple machines, and/or making it easier to migrate instances
  around for capacity/other reasons. 

* Migrating to a RHEL6 base OS, including newer trac, newer scms, and
  newer software in general. Testing plans, checking what things
  migrate nicely, etc. 

* Migrating mailing lists over to our collab servers to reduce load on
  hosted machines. Or perhaps a dedicated hosting mailing list machine. 

* Making things easier to support or add new services. 

Deliverables: 

* A plan for what machines/instances we need to install and what they
  will be used for. 
* A SOP for migrating a project from the old fedorahosted machine to
  new one(s), listing step by step the process. 
* A list of end developer/user visible changes and actions needed
  (hopefully few to none). 
* A deadline for migrating instances to the new setup. 

If you are a developer that uses fedorahosted.org or have interest in
infrastructure and helping plan migrations, we would love to hear from
you. If you're unable to attend the vFAD, feel free to email me or the
infrastructure list with your ideas or suggestions. 

Help us make fedorahosted the best place to host your code or project!

kevin


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review swap

2011-11-14 Thread Julian Sikorski
Hi,

I would be willing to swap a review of gmtk [1] in rpmfusion for another
review, be it RPM Fusion or Fedora, preferably not something overly
complex. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.

Cheers,
Julian

[1] https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1958

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Re: F17 heads up: X server git snapshots

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 09:42 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 06:48 -0500, Mystilleef wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Wow, I read this a little too late. I did an update, using
  --skip-broken, today and now Xorg is broken. I use the open source ati
  drivers. The Xorg log indicates a version mismatch between Xorg and
  the drivers. Is there a way to reverse or fix this?
 
 Get the list of X packages you have installed, download the F16 builds
 of same from koji, and downgrade to them.  Something like this perhaps:
 
 $ rpm -qa --qf=%{name}\n xorg-x11-\* | xargs -n 1 koji download-build
 --latestfrom=f16-updates --arch=$(arch)
 $ sudo rpm -Uvh --oldpackage xorg-x11-*$(arch).rpm
 
 Probably there's a way to achieve the same thing that won't end with yum
 complaining about the rpmdb being modified behind its back, but meh.

Set up the F16 repos and do 'yum downgrade'.
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Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-14 Thread Tom Callaway
On 11/14/2011 12:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
 ruby-libs ((Ruby or GPLv2) and (GPL+ or Artistic))
 ypserv (GPLv2)

At a quick glance, these are the only two areas of licensing concern,
and Ruby can be resolved with a major version update as pointed out
elsewhere.

Thorsten, would you be willing to relicense ypserv as GPLv2 or later (or
GPLv3) to resolve this incompatibility? (gdbm moved to GPLv3+).

Thanks,

~tom

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Re: cisco vpn because of ipsec over tcp

2011-11-14 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:34:04 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote

   It seems you have your layering wrong. IPSec operates on IP
 protocol, below UDP and TCP.  Only IKE, the key exchange, protocol
 works on UDP. Maybe you thought about different technology? For VPN,
 OpenVPN provided in Fedora support TCP transport

The Cisco VPN client (and vpnc) can encapsulate ESP in UDP, to
help transmission through firewalls, NAT and the like, the operative
term for that is NAT-T. The Cisco VPN client can also use TCP encapsulation,
although I think that requires support on the terminating device as
well (it will not work by default).

I've never used it in practice.
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Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29:10AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
  On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
   Looking at 
   http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log
   (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/
   directory isn't being created in the composes.
   
   anyone have info on what's broken ?
   
  Dave
  
  
  We don't make images for Rawhide, we haven't for a number of releases now.  
  Images only get turned on when we branch.

that's unfortunate. f16 doesn't pxe install for me, and I'd rather make sure 
this
doesn't affect 17 sooner rather than later.  Where can I find the compose 
scripts 
So I can build images locally to debug this ?

Dave

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Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Jesse Keating
On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
 
 that's unfortunate. f16 doesn't pxe install for me, and I'd rather make sure 
 this
 doesn't affect 17 sooner rather than later.  Where can I find the compose 
 scripts 
 So I can build images locally to debug this ?

Pungi can be used, or probably more directly lorax can be used to generate 
images.  I've been out of that game for a year or so (pre lorax), and I cannot 
speak to current practices.

- jlk

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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2011-11-14 at 18UTC)

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 07:39 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* AGREED: tell maintainer to please support listening on both ipv4 and
  ipv6 in vsftpd.

A rather odd something like this found it self on fesco tables instead 
of an RFE against component.

If I'm not mistake the only thing you need to do is set listen=NO and 
listen_ipv6=YES in vsftpd.conf and it will listen to both ipv4 and ipv6 
which I believe is the correct and expected behaviour from upstream.

However when researching and writing this email I noticed that we seem 
to be carrying patch [1] that splits this into separated ipv6 behaviour 
which seem to have been done due to bug 592850

Due to that if admins and people alike want both they copy 
/etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf to /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd-ipv6.conf make the 
previous mentioned changes ( as are already mentioned in the vsftpd.conf 
file ) and simply create an ipv6 vsftpd unit in /etc/systemd/systemd 
directory

### vsftpd-ipv6.service ###

[Unit]
Description=Vsftpd ftp daemon
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=forking
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/vsftpd /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd-ipv6.conf

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target


JBG

[1]. 
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=vsftpd.git;a=blob;f=vsftpd-2.2.2-v6only.patch;h=f0931e277da95a665106739c20c58d43ba1b90f6;hb=80f6d3e480feba94fab5ba2454249640854a7504
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Re: Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Ola Thoresen
On 11/14/2011 06:43 PM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:43:10PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:

 So you say that both

 IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
 IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES=2001:840:0:11::30/64

 Shoudl work?
 (Have not tested yet, but might do that later today).

 I believe

   IPV6INIT=yes
   IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
   IPV6ADDR=2001:840:0:11::30/64

 should work and give you both the static IPV6ADDR plus a dynamic address
 from RA. At least with that config I'm getting these addresses:

inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012::5/64 Scope:Global # IPV6ADDR
inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012:21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Global # RA
inet6 addr: fe80::21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Link # link local



Unfortunately it does not seem to work here, which is a bit strange if 
it works for you...
Just tested the exact same setup (with my own IP-addresses) and only the 
RA-address is set on the interface if i set IPV6_AUTOCON=yes.
Even after a reboot.
I could then add static addresses manually usin /sbin/ip ...

But if I change ifcfg-eth0 back to IPV6_AUTOCONF=no it will imediately 
set the static address(es)

This is with NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-5.git20110927.fc16.x86_64



Rgds

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/14/2011 05:50 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:31:21PM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:

 Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community?
Very strong no from me.

FESCO is a technical committee, supposed to provide strategic technical 
decisions and guidance - It is NOT meant to to deal with other topics, 
such as e.g. politics or marketing.

Should provide a nice balance to the technical side.

 Fesco exists to make technical decisions.
Exactly.

 The people who are members
 should be competent to make those decisions based on a thorough
 understanding of the issue, so I don't think having non-technical
 membership is ideal.
Exactly.

 However, people (technical or otherwise) should
 feel able to provide their views in either the fesco ticketing system or
 at a meeting.
That a completely different question, which I don't consider to be 
related to your initial question/remark, but to be a detail of FESCO's 
daily routine/channels of communication.

 I'd hope that we're not making decisions that are seen as
 user-hostile, but if we are we really would be interested in hearing
 about it.
Well, if you ask me, ... FESCO has a long history of having drawn 
decisions which do not match with my vision of a community driven Linux 
distro and my hopes on Fedora. But that's just my individual view.

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Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
El Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:20:13 -0800
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net escribió:
 On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
  
  that's unfortunate. f16 doesn't pxe install for me, and I'd rather
  make sure this doesn't affect 17 sooner rather than later.  Where
  can I find the compose scripts So I can build images locally to
  debug this ?
 
 Pungi can be used, or probably more directly lorax can be used to
 generate images.  I've been out of that game for a year or so (pre
 lorax), and I cannot speak to current practices.

you can use pungi to make a boot.iso and a pxe tree. you need to pass
pungi a kickstart that has a repo line only that points at a rwahide
repo.

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Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/14/2011 09:20 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
 that's unfortunate. f16 doesn't pxe install for me, and I'd rather make sure 
 this
 doesn't affect 17 sooner rather than later.  Where can I find the compose 
 scripts
 So I can build images locally to debug this ?
 Pungi can be used, or probably more directly lorax can be used to generate 
 images.  I've been out of that game for a year or so (pre lorax), and I 
 cannot speak to current practices.

Surely an ticket can be open with releng to make exception to the 
general rule and make an image for him to help debug this...

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 14.11.2011, 12:31 -0500 schrieb Clyde E. Kunkel:

 
 Multidisciplinary membership is good.  However, please keep a balance in 
 that no one group is over represented.
 
 Also, how about a non-technical member from the general user community? 

I'd say no. Not only because I think that we need technical people to
understand technical decisions, but also for the very same argument you
just gave: Keep a balance in that no group is over represented. The
ambassadors group for example is huge and could easily get a lot of
their candidates into FESCo.

Don't get me wrong: I like having ambassadors in FESCo, I am one myself
and a member of FESCo, too. But I am in FESCo as a packager and so
should be others: Whoever wants to run for a technical body needs to be
member of at least one technical group.

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Re: Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 22:39 +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 06:43 PM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:43:10PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 
  So you say that both
 
  IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
  IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES=2001:840:0:11::30/64
 
  Shoudl work?
  (Have not tested yet, but might do that later today).
 
  I believe
 
  IPV6INIT=yes
  IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
  IPV6ADDR=2001:840:0:11::30/64
 
  should work and give you both the static IPV6ADDR plus a dynamic address
  from RA. At least with that config I'm getting these addresses:
 
 inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012::5/64 Scope:Global   # IPV6ADDR
 inet6 addr: 2a01:798:0:8012:21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Global # 
  RA
 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:4aff:fea8:8501/64 Scope:Link # link local
 
 
 
 Unfortunately it does not seem to work here, which is a bit strange if 
 it works for you...
 Just tested the exact same setup (with my own IP-addresses) and only the 
 RA-address is set on the interface if i set IPV6_AUTOCON=yes.
 Even after a reboot.
 I could then add static addresses manually usin /sbin/ip ...
 
 But if I change ifcfg-eth0 back to IPV6_AUTOCONF=no it will imediately 
 set the static address(es)
 
 This is with NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-5.git20110927.fc16.x86_64

NM should allow static addresses in addition to RA/DHCP ones.  While the
UI currently might restrict that (should get fixed) I'd expect it to
work with the right bits in the ifcfg file.  I'll check that out.

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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 Or we can open it to the entire project and
 just assume that the electorate will ensure that nobody inappropriate
 gets elected.

I don't see the harm in letting the electorate decide this. If you're
not a packager and you somehow manage to get voted in, great. Maybe
the technical decisions will be over your head and you'll have to bow
out... or maybe you'll do an awesome job. I think the system can
correct itself over time.

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Re: Advanced IPv6 in NetworkManager

2011-11-14 Thread Ola Thoresen
On 11/14/2011 11:03 PM, Dan Williams wrote:

 This is with NetworkManager-0.9.1.90-5.git20110927.fc16.x86_64

 NM should allow static addresses in addition to RA/DHCP ones.  While the
 UI currently might restrict that (should get fixed) I'd expect it to
 work with the right bits in the ifcfg file.  I'll check that out.


When NM brigs up the interface I get an error in syslog:

Nov 14 22:34:52 lupus NetworkManager[1041]: error [1321306492.952130] 
[nm-system.c:1039] nm_system_replace_default_ip6_route(): (eth0): failed 
to set IPv6 default route: -1


However the route is added (at least IPv6 works fine) so I don't know if 
it is related.


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Build failure if STABS debug symbols are found

2011-11-14 Thread Christian Krause
Hi,

during the build of the new scummvm release we run into the following
build issue:

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3507060name=build.log

+ /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh --strict-build-id
/builddir/build/BUILD/scummvm-1.4.0
extracting debug info from
/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/scummvm-1.4.0-1.fc16.i386/usr/bin/scummvm
Stabs debuginfo not supported:
/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/scummvm-1.4.0-1.fc16.i386/usr/bin/scummvm
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.wtAmWB (%install)
RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.wtAmWB (%install)
Child returncode was: 1
EXCEPTION: Command failed. See logs for output.


It looks like that the compiled binary contains STABS debug symbols.

I have investigated this problem and indeed the nasm assembler will
generate by default STABS instead of DWARF debug symbols.

According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725378#c16
rpmbuild has now the following behavior:

F17: rpmbuild will issue a warning but not fail the build
F15, F16: rpmbuild will fail the build once it detects STABS debug
symbols in the binaries

I'm wondering what would be the best solution here:

a) apply a patch to the package to let nasm generate DWARF debug symbols
(and probably propose this patch upstream)

b) change the behavior of rpmbuild in F15 and F16 to not treat these
errors as fatal

c) file a bug against nasm to change the default debug symbol format to
DWARF in case of compiling for the ELF target

Probably it would even make sense to do all 3 of them.


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[Bug 753955] CVE-2011-4114 perl-PAR-Packer: insecure temporary directory handling

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   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||753957

--- Comment #1 from Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com 2011-11-14 17:55:44 EST 
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Created perl-PAR-Packer tracking bugs for this issue

Affects: fedora-all [bug 753957]

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[Bug 753955] CVE-2011-4114 perl-PAR-Packer: insecure temporary directory handling

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  Status Whiteboard|impact=low,public=20110718, |impact=low,public=20110718,
   |reported=2004,source=os |reported=2004,source=os
   |s-security,cvss2=3.3/AV:L/A |s-security,cvss2=1.9/AV:L/A
   |C:M/Au:N/C:P/I:P/A:N,fedora |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:P/A:N,fedora
   |-all/perl-PAR-Packer=affect |-all/perl-PAR-Packer=affect
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Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 16.

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 17:48 +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
  Fedora 16 is not science fiction. It is here right now:
  http://get.fedoraproject.org
 
 Hmm, no jigdo downloads any more?

Releng say they dropped jigdo due to overwhelming indifference (the
download numbers for the jigdo images were tiny).
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Re: Differences between koji and mock rawhide environments?

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 11:35 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

 Also, looking closer, why is it that rawhide still contains
 python-2.7.2-16.fc17, when according to
 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=python.git
 that version was replaced two weeks ago due to the recent glibc issues?

We haven't actually done a full rebuild for the glibc issues in Rawhide.
The packages which have a 'rebuilt for glibc' note in their Rawhide
branch git history are a result of dgilmore making a mistake: we planned
to rebuild a specific set of affected packages in F16 for the Final
release, but by mistake, this change was initially applied to master
branch rather than f16 branch. When we noticed the mistake, the mass
rebuild was cancelled, the changes applied to the f16 branch instead,
and the mass rebuild done for the f16 branch. So the upshot is that
there were a few dozen packages which have the 'rebuilt for glibc' note
in their Rawhide changelogs but where that build was never actually
submitted.

We probably should do a more thoroughgoing look at what packages should
still be rebuilt in Rawhide and F16 repos for the glibc issue - we only
ever actually did the most important F16 ones at the time - but that's
where things stand ATM.
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Re: openssh-server in F16ga

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 13:42 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 07:17:05PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
  On 11/09/2011 06:59 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
   Seems surprising (to me) that it'd be installed, and the port open in
   the firewall, but not enabled.
  
   From my perspective it's quite the oposit as in having it enabled on 
  the dvd and instantly letting novice end users be vulnerable to ssh 
  attacks because apparently power users no longer posses the knowledge on 
  how to enable it via kickstart or otherwize
  
  Atleast the Gnome Desktop team ( which control their own spin ) took the 
  smart route for their end user base
  
 Did this hit the Release Notes?  Correct or not, it's pretty big change in
 behaviour if someone was expecting it to either be the same as past releases
 or the same as installing from the DVD.  Release noting it would be greatly
 helpful for people looking to answer exactly the question asked here Was
 this intentional or is it a bug?

IIRC, it's not a change. It's been this way for a while. (The bug where
s-c-f claims port 22 is open but in fact it isn't, after a live install,
has also been around for a while.)
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Re: Getting grub launching the installer

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 08:13 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Two F16 reinstalls later, each time fiddling with the mdraid partition  
 layouts, yet each time producing the same results, I found  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Cannot_boot_with_.2Fboot_partition_on_a_software_RAID_array
 
 Great, except for the part where it doesn't say /where/ to add this, in the  
 massive grub.cfg hairball.

Sorry about that - I write the common bugs entries (well, most of them)
and often I don't have personal experience of the issue so I just have
to go on what notes I have from the bug report. That was the best I
could do for that issue!
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Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 19:35 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 11/14/2011 06:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  The issue that came up in the discussion was that there is a good group
  to use to include for QA. The qa group isn't really used and proventesters
  is a bit broad and its future is in question. One possible solution is
  to start using the qa group to track the core members of the qa team.
 
 So the QA group will be restored to it's previous functionality along 
 with it's members right
 
 We have kept it very hard to not make any kind of distinction in the QA 
 community everybody's treated equal no one is better then the next man 
 and everybody have to follow the same procedures while having as little 
 entry level as possible and now you are proposing that we shatter that 
 by reintroducing team elite and label people part of core or not part 
 of core.
 
 That alone is something that needs to be discussed with the QA community 
 itself.
 
 By the way there arent any official ruling body of QA and those that are 
 doing most the work a.k.a so called core members of the QA team are 
 the once subscribed to the Red Hat check and are doing so as a part of 
 their $dayjob and perhaps on their free time as well I dont know.
 
 The real issue here is that it seems to be popular amongst candidates to 
 slap some kind of QA statement into their candidacy even if those 
 individual have never been part of the QA community et all atleast not 
 to any large extent and that has somehow be tied with the QA Community 
 general.
 
 People that are involved usually don't need any introduction or be tied 
 to any subgroup within the project their track record speaks for 
 themselves so in all fairness either keep status quo or drop all 
 requirements and let user keep what ever they voted over themselves as a 
 result of that.

I don't think Bruno was really *proposing* it, just floating it as a
possibility. Obviously, if FESCo were to say it would allow 'QA members'
to serve on FESCo, we'd need *some* way of identifying who is 'in' QA,
or else the policy would be an effective dead letter.

Having said that, though, I mostly agree with Johann's concerns - I like
the lack of a formal membership system for QA, partly for the reasons
Johann cites and also just because it avoids unnecessary paperwork,
which I'm always in favour of. Making sure every QA is process is
entirely open to participation with the max requirement being a Bugzilla
account and a FAS account has worked quite well for us so far and
obviated the need for complicated entrance procedures, special
handshakes and the like. If we _have_ to change that for a good reason,
we can, but we do like to keep things as lightweight as possible.
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Re: gnome-scan package status confusion

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 18:34 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Why is gnome-scan-0.6.2-7.fc15 offered in Fedora 16 when it has been
 retired months ago and is affected by serious crashers? The reports in
 bugzilla are without a reply from the assignee:
 
   http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/gnome-scan
 
 Has it been retired without requesting rel-eng to block it from the
 repos?
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
 
 While trying to make a scanner work I discovered this in the repo,
 but it froze early while xsane works.
 
 | [pkgdb] gnome-scan (un)retirement
 | Fedora PackageDB pkgdb at fedoraproject.org
 | Tue Aug 30 16:18:36 UTC 2011
 | 
 | Package gnome-scan in Fedora 16 has been retired by deji
 
 
 | URL : http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/
 
 404 not found
 
 Google search finds  
 
   http://projects.gnome.org/gnome-scan/index
- http://gna.org/projects/gnomescan/
 
 but it looks out-of-date/inactive.

On a side note, you might want to try Simple Scan (simple-scan). xsane
is more capable but its interface is hideous.
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Re: printing

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote:
 yum install hplip hplip-gui system-config-printer

hplip only supports that printer with a proprietary plugin. :-(

(That's the case for all the printers supported by those foo2* drivers.)

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Re: printing

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Vickery
I figured it out! I had my user's name typed into the Allow/Deny. I deleted
this name and it worked.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:

 Frank Murphy wrote:
  yum install hplip hplip-gui system-config-printer

 hplip only supports that printer with a proprietary plugin. :-(

 (That's the case for all the printers supported by those foo2* drivers.)

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[Bug 753750] New: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.75 is available

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Summary: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.75 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753750

   Summary: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.75 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-POE-Component-IRC
AssignedTo: cw...@alumni.drew.edu
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: cw...@alumni.drew.edu,
fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---
  Type: ---


Latest upstream release: 6.75
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 6.74
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/POE-Component-IRC/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

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[Bug 753750] perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.75 is available

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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File POE-Component-IRC-6.75.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-11-14 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-POE-Component-IRC:

2569d283014793f8aae9a6c0bc9440be  POE-Component-IRC-6.75.tar.gz
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[perl-POE-Component-IRC] 6.75 bump

2011-11-14 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 692c914b39fd16a1dca37c17acb6855da448c6ca
Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Nov 14 13:05:14 2011 +0100

6.75 bump

 .gitignore  |1 +
 perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec |5 -
 sources |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 1e87f0a..7639a15 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -3,3 +3,4 @@ POE-Component-IRC-6.14.tar.gz
 /POE-Component-IRC-6.70.tar.gz
 /POE-Component-IRC-6.71.tar.gz
 /POE-Component-IRC-6.74.tar.gz
+/POE-Component-IRC-6.75.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec b/perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec
index b84f686..802e1e8 100644
--- a/perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec
+++ b/perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 
 Name:   perl-POE-Component-IRC
 Summary:A POE component for building IRC clients
-Version:6.74
+Version:6.75
 Release:1%{?dist}
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -93,6 +93,9 @@ find %{buildroot} -type f -name '*.pm' -exec chmod -x {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Nov 14 2011 Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com - 6.75-1
+- 6.75 bump
+
 * Mon Oct 10 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 6.74-1
 - 6.74 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index a5709d6..a753256 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-d9d0bc02adfc87eae477e122213e4b12  POE-Component-IRC-6.74.tar.gz
+2569d283014793f8aae9a6c0bc9440be  POE-Component-IRC-6.75.tar.gz
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File NetPacket-1.3.0.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jpo

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-NetPacket:

df5b34ad74f58abeb5133bd649f3798d  NetPacket-1.3.0.tar.gz
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[perl-NetPacket] Created tag perl-NetPacket-1.3.0-1.fc17

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
The lightweight tag 'perl-NetPacket-1.3.0-1.fc17' was created pointing to:

 3ab3de2...  * Rebased patch0
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[perl-NetPacket] * Update to 1.3.0

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit 9d456da5ab8813bdc2073a19b51efec95d016645
Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira j...@di.uminho.pt
Date:   Mon Nov 14 17:59:49 2011 +

 * Update to 1.3.0

 .gitignore  |1 +
 perl-NetPacket.spec |5 -
 sources |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 2895e84..5318eef 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -2,3 +2,4 @@
 /NetPacket-1.1.0.tar.gz
 /NetPacket-1.1.1.tar.gz
 /NetPacket-1.2.0.tar.gz
+/NetPacket-1.3.0.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-NetPacket.spec b/perl-NetPacket.spec
index 2e15913..9c9fd96 100644
--- a/perl-NetPacket.spec
+++ b/perl-NetPacket.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-NetPacket
-Version:1.2.0
+Version:1.3.0
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Assemble/disassemble network packets at the protocol level
 License:Artistic 2.0
@@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Nov 14 2011 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 1.3.0-1
+- Update to 1.3.0.
+
 * Sat Jul 30 2011 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 1.2.0-1
 - Update to 1.2.0.
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 03d38f9..449dfe7 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-c3a09b48bc55cf366b594e30860d0a82  NetPacket-1.2.0.tar.gz
+df5b34ad74f58abeb5133bd649f3798d  NetPacket-1.3.0.tar.gz
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[perl-NetPacket] * Rebased patch0

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit 3ab3de2e6223f50294ada98b7ced60aaed7b25a0
Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira j...@di.uminho.pt
Date:   Mon Nov 14 18:17:46 2011 +

 * Rebased patch0

 ...0-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch |   27 
 perl-NetPacket.spec|3 +-
 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/NetPacket-1.3.0-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch 
b/NetPacket-1.3.0-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch
new file mode 100644
index 000..620249a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/NetPacket-1.3.0-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
+diff -ruN NetPacket-1.3.0/Build.PL NetPacket-1.3.0-modified/Build.PL
+--- NetPacket-1.3.0/Build.PL   2011-11-13 20:52:37.0 +
 NetPacket-1.3.0-modified/Build.PL  2011-11-14 18:04:48.818559052 +
+@@ -2,19 +2,19 @@
+ use strict;
+ use warnings;
+ 
+-use Module::Build 0.3601;
++use Module::Build 0.2807;
+ 
+ 
+ my %module_build_args = (
+   build_requires = {
+ Carp = 0,
+-Module::Build = 0.3601,
++Module::Build = 0.2807,
+ Scalar::Util = 0,
+-Test::More = 0.94,
++Test::More = 0.62,
+ perl = 5.004
+   },
+   configure_requires = {
+-Module::Build = 0.3601
++Module::Build = 0.2807
+   },
+   dist_abstract = assemble/disassemble network packets at the protocol 
level,
+   dist_author = [
diff --git a/perl-NetPacket.spec b/perl-NetPacket.spec
index 9c9fd96..3ca17cc 100644
--- a/perl-NetPacket.spec
+++ b/perl-NetPacket.spec
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ License:Artistic 2.0
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/NetPacket/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/Y/YA/YANICK/NetPacket-%{version}.tar.gz
-Patch0: NetPacket-1.0.1-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch
+Patch0: NetPacket-1.3.0-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildArch:  noarch
 BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Build)
@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %changelog
 * Mon Nov 14 2011 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 1.3.0-1
 - Update to 1.3.0.
+- Rebased patch0.
 
 * Sat Jul 30 2011 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 1.2.0-1
 - Update to 1.2.0.
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[perl-NetPacket] * Remove outdated patch

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit 6cb8cf053ae07b501b9462c56f18b70fce9bba42
Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira j...@di.uminho.pt
Date:   Mon Nov 14 18:22:25 2011 +

 * Remove outdated patch

 ...1-Build.PL-downgrade-modules-requirements.patch |   27 
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[perl-NetPacket/el6] (3 commits) ... * Remove outdated patch

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
Summary of changes:

  9d456da...  * Update to 1.3.0 (*)
  3ab3de2...  * Rebased patch0 (*)
  6cb8cf0...  * Remove outdated patch (*)

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[perl-NetPacket/el5] (3 commits) ... * Remove outdated patch

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
Summary of changes:

  9d456da...  * Update to 1.3.0 (*)
  3ab3de2...  * Rebased patch0 (*)
  6cb8cf0...  * Remove outdated patch (*)

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[perl-NetPacket/f16] (3 commits) ... * Remove outdated patch

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
Summary of changes:

  9d456da...  * Update to 1.3.0 (*)
  3ab3de2...  * Rebased patch0 (*)
  6cb8cf0...  * Remove outdated patch (*)

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[perl-NetPacket/f15] (3 commits) ... * Remove outdated patch

2011-11-14 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
Summary of changes:

  9d456da...  * Update to 1.3.0 (*)
  3ab3de2...  * Rebased patch0 (*)
  6cb8cf0...  * Remove outdated patch (*)

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[Bug 750039] perl-Module-Runtime-0.11 and perl-Class-Load-0.12 in F16

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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version|perl-Module-Runtime-0.011-1 |perl-Class-Load-0.12-1.fc16
   |.fc16,  |
   |perl-Class-Load-0.12-1.fc16 |
 Resolution||ERRATA
Last Closed||2011-11-14 17:26:53

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perl-Class-Load-0.12-1.fc16, perl-Module-Runtime-0.011-1.fc16,
perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.90006-1.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
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[Bug 753955] CVE-2011-4114 perl-PAR-Packer: insecure temporary directory handling

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