EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2013-05-31 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 592  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2011-4701/supybot-gribble-0.83.4.1-10.el6
 404  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
 104  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-0376/openconnect-4.08-1.el6
  62  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-0823/openstack-keystone-2012.2.3-5.el6
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5853/owncloud-4.5.11-1.el6
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5862/python-backports-ssl_match_hostname-3.2-0.3.a3.el6
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5865/moodle-2.2.10-1.el6
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5893/mediawiki119-1.19.7-1.el6
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5919/livecd-tools-13.4.4-2.el6
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5928/transifex-client-0.9-1.el6
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5992/cgit-0.9.2-1.el6
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5994/mod_security-2.7.3-2.el6
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-5995/socat-1.7.2.2-1.el6
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-6024/rubygem-passenger-3.0.21-1.el6
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-6034/heat-jeos-9-1.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

RBTools-0.5.1-1.el6
cabal-rpm-0.8.0-1.el6
csslint-0.9.10-1.el6
dar-2.4.10-1.el6
fedora-review-0.4.1-2.el6
heat-jeos-9-1.el6
java-dirq-1.3-3.el6
libuv-0.10.9-1.el6
nodejs-0.10.9-1.el6
nodejs-defined-0.0.0-1.el6
nodejs-jsonify-0.0.0-1.el6
nodejs-paperboy-0.0.5-1.el6
nodejs-through-2.3.4-1.el6
pngquant-1.8.3-6.el6
python-d2to1-0.2.10-1.el6
python-pbr-0.5.11-2.el6
reposurgeon-2.39-2.el6
rubygem-passenger-3.0.21-1.el6
shinken-1.4-1.el6
turbojpeg-1.2.1-2.el6
v8-3.14.5.10-1.el6
wemux-2.2.0-1.el6

Details about builds:



 RBTools-0.5.1-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2013-6033)
 Tools for use with ReviewBoard

Update Information:

This is a major version upgrade for RBTools in EPEL 6 that is necessary to 
operate properly with ReviewBoard 1.7.x. This update should be fully compatible 
with older ReviewBoard instances in the 1.5.x and 1.6.x series.

- New upstream release 0.5.1
- http://www.reviewboard.org/docs/releasenotes/rbtools/0.5.1/
- Drop upstreamed ez_setup patch
- New Features:
* Improved the readability of rbt status output
* Added a --repository-type option to most commands
* Added a --list-repository-types option to post-review
* Added a new rbt list-repo-types command
* Third-parties can now write new SCM support by creating Python packages
  leveraging Python entry points
- API Client Changes:
* Added an API Client method for retrieving resources from a path
* Add a get_or_create_draft method to the API
* Restructured the API Client internally
- Bug Fixes:
* Fixed crash when copying old post-review cookies for use with rbt
* rbt commands will now properly generate diffs with moved files
* Fixed references to non-existent variables in rbt patch
* Fixed rbt post for Perforce repositories
* Fixed rbt post and rbt diff for Subversion and Bazaar
* Fixed post-review and rbt when used for Perforce paths
* Fixed error handling when posting a review request
- Packaging Changes:
* Conditionalize ez_setup


ChangeLog:

* Thu May 30 2013 Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com - 0.5.1-1
- New upstream release 0.5.1
- http://www.reviewboard.org/docs/releasenotes/rbtools/0.5.1/
- Drop upstreamed ez_setup patch
- New Features:
* Improved the readability of rbt status output
* Added a --repository-type option to most commands
* Added a --list-repository-types option to post-review
* Added a new rbt list-repo-types command
* Third-parties can now write new SCM support by creating Python packages
  leveraging Python entry points
- API Client Changes:
* Added an API Client method for retrieving resources from a path
* Add a get_or_create_draft method to the API
* Restructured the API Client internally
- Bug Fixes:
* Fixed crash when copying old post-review cookies for use with rbt
* rbt commands will now properly generate diffs with moved files
* Fixed references to non-existent variables in rbt patch
* Fixed rbt post for Perforce repositories
* Fixed rbt post and rbt diff for Subversion and Bazaar
* Fixed post-review and rbt when used for 

Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 08:38:37AM +1000, David Beveridge wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
  I'm remoting my VMs using X11 :-)
 
  Mainly because I don't want to be running a whole desktop environment
  anywhere except on my local laptop.
 
 How do you do installs?

Using whatever virt-install defaults to (VNC unless you use the
'--graphics spice' option).  It is possible to do completely headless
installs using kickstarts however.

Rich.

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Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 08:33:16PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
 Users sometimes misdiagnose issues, *especially* when complaining. 8-)

 I did some tests and cold cache performance tests on an old Debian 
 installation.  Performance with cold caches is more than adequate. 
 Full-text searches take about two seconds.  Package installation reaches 
 the confirmation prompt (after dependency resolution) in less than three 
 seconds, even for ridiculously complex tasks such as installing the entire 
 KDE desktop (365 additional packages on my test system).

 In contrast, on Fedora or RHEL systems, 30 seconds for dependency 
 resolution with a cold cache are common, plus around 6 seconds for loading 
 all the Python code for yum.  /usr/bin/time reports much more I/O than it 
 does non Debian (about ten times as much, as reflected in the wall clock 
 time).

If you want to do some measurements for depsolving without the python
overhead, you can try the libsolv-demo package (it's a subpackage
of libsolv, so it should be available for Fedora). It consists of
a single binary, /usr/bin/solv, that is a little package manager
on top of libsolv.

Cheers,
  Michael.

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Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-31 Thread Florian Weimer

On 05/29/2013 11:06 PM, James Antill wrote:

On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 20:33 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:


I did some tests and cold cache performance tests on an old Debian
installation.  Performance with cold caches is more than adequate.
Full-text searches take about two seconds.  Package installation reaches
the confirmation prompt (after dependency resolution) in less than three
seconds, even for ridiculously complex tasks such as installing the
entire KDE desktop (365 additional packages on my test system).

In contrast, on Fedora or RHEL systems, 30 seconds for dependency
resolution with a cold cache are common, plus around 6 seconds for
loading all the Python code for yum.  /usr/bin/time reports much more
I/O than it does non Debian (about ten times as much, as reflected in
the wall clock time).


  Yeh, it's almost like yum is dealing with more data:

http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/apt2yum#Generalpoints


Are the yum numbers current?  I don't think filelists are processed by 
current yum if that can be avoided.


Anyway, let's hope that DNF will make all that history. 8-)

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rawhide report: 20130531 changes

2013-05-31 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri May 31 08:15:03 UTC 2013

Broken deps for x86_64
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[ovirt-engine]
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classpathx-mail
[ovirt-guest-agent]
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[python-TraitsBackendQt]
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[lutok]
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[ooo2gd]
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[openbox]
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[ovirt-engine]
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[python-TraitsBackendQt]
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Re: Review swaps

2013-05-31 Thread Björn Esser
Since there are no other volunteers I'll take these, too.

 2 Globus Toolkit packages (these are simple since they follow the
 template used for all Globus toolkit packages):
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889261
 Review Request: globus-gram-job-manager-lsf - Globus Toolkit - LSF Job
 Manager Support
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889262
 Review Request: globus-gridmap-verify-myproxy-callout - Globus Toolkit
 - Globus gridmap myproxy callout



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Re: Review swaps

2013-05-31 Thread Björn Esser
Forgot about this. Now it's taken...

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=952229
 Review Request: canl-c++ - EMI Common Authentication library -
 bindings
 for C++



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F-19 Branched report: 20130531 changes

2013-05-31 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri May 31 09:15:02 UTC 2013

Broken deps for x86_64
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travelccm-1.00.1-2.fc19.i686 

Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Smart
On 14/11/12 01:40, Matthew Miller wrote:
 With that timeline, I think it's going to be hard to *use* it for F18 Final,
 but I can certainily start testing it. Then, we can look at adopting it for
 F19.

Have we adopted livemedia-creator for 19, or still using livecd-creator?

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New LibRaw in rawhide

2013-05-31 Thread Jon Ciesla
I've just updated LibRaw to 0.15.2.  This is a soname change, so I've also
rebuilt:
entangle
evas-generic-loaders
luminance-hdr
nomacs
oyranos
shotwell

These all rebuilt locally on the new LibRaw with no modifications except
shotwell, which required a minor patch to remove references to a deprecated
piece of the the LibRaw API.  I've tested the patched shotwell and it seems
OK so far.

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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 30.05.2013 23:59, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:23:52AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:
 On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:
 Are you tired of using VNC?

 Nope.
 Do you have any issues with VNC?

 It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
 lots of spice's advanced features...
 
 I'm remoting my VMs using X11 :-)
 
 Mainly because I don't want to be running a whole desktop environment
 anywhere except on my local laptop.

In addition to your method,
'qemu-kvm -sdl' is only able to produce
Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
despite guidance at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Virtualization_problems#SDL_Graphics
Ta ta ta ta.


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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet

On 05/30/2013 11:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:

On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:

Are you tired of using VNC?


Nope.
Do you have any issues with VNC?


It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
lots of spice's advanced features...



Can Spice be used to connect to an already running Gnome desktop for 
remote support purposes?


The docs I looked at talked about using Spice for virtualization and or 
setting up remote login, but nothing like VNC/Vino for connecting to 
someone else's desktop...


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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 04:20:00PM +0200, poma wrote:
 In addition to your method,
 'qemu-kvm -sdl' is only able to produce
 Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
 despite guidance at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Virtualization_problems#SDL_Graphics

This might be a bug, or it might be that you don't have a video device
available (are you running this at the text console or over ssh?)

SDL works pretty reliably for me though, but if you can't get it to
work you should file a bug with detailed information about versions
and how to reproduce it.

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python-espeak

2013-05-31 Thread Eduardo Mayorga Téllez
Hi all,

I have the intention to pack a Python program that has python-espeak
as dependency. I just found espeak at repos. Why is not it there?

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Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2013-05-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:57:51PM +1000, Chris Smart wrote:
 On 14/11/12 01:40, Matthew Miller wrote:
  With that timeline, I think it's going to be hard to *use* it for F18 Final,
  but I can certainily start testing it. Then, we can look at adopting it for
  F19.
 Have we adopted livemedia-creator for 19, or still using livecd-creator?

For cloud images, still appliance-tools, which uses livecd-tools. We'll get
there (or to _something_ which uses anaconda under virt) eventually.



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Re: python-espeak

2013-05-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Eduardo Mayorga Téllez
mayorgali...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have the intention to pack a Python program that has python-espeak
 as dependency. I just found espeak at repos. Why is not it there?

Because no one has packaged it yet you could package it as well as
your other package.

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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 30.05.2013 21:30, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 20:15 +0200, poma wrote:
 On 30.05.2013 19:23, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:
 On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:
 Are you tired of using VNC?

 Nope.
 Do you have any issues with VNC?

 It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
 lots of spice's advanced features...

 In this respect, is there a comparison study and where?
 
 Don't know if there's spice vs. VNC study exactly, but there's some
 useful stuff on the Spice page:
 
 http://spice-space.org/features.html
 http://spice-space.org/faq.html

Future Features!? :)
- 3D acceleration/*GL

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2013-May/013411.html
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2013-May/013491.html

Now, Red Hat can do better - two people are smarter than one, so help
Dave and let the acceleration develops accelerated. ;)


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Re: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Alon Levy
 On 05/30/2013 11:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:
  On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:
  Are you tired of using VNC?
 
  Nope.
  Do you have any issues with VNC?
 
  It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
  lots of spice's advanced features...
 
 
 Can Spice be used to connect to an already running Gnome desktop for
 remote support purposes?

No, it can't do that. You can launch a completely independent X server 
(Xspice), but not remote an existing one. That could potentially be done by 
having two graphics drivers for a single X.

 
 The docs I looked at talked about using Spice for virtualization and or
 setting up remote login, but nothing like VNC/Vino for connecting to
 someone else's desktop...
 
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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 31.05.2013 16:34, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 04:20:00PM +0200, poma wrote:
 In addition to your method,
 'qemu-kvm -sdl' is only able to produce
 Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
 despite guidance at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Virtualization_problems#SDL_Graphics
 
 This might be a bug, or it might be that you don't have a video device
 available (are you running this at the text console or over ssh?)
 
 SDL works pretty reliably for me though, but if you can't get it to
 work you should file a bug with detailed information about versions
 and how to reproduce it.

But what about this one?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880152#c3


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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 31.05.2013 01:28, jdow wrote:
 On 2013/05/30 11:08, poma wrote:
 On 30.05.2013 19:27, Doug wrote:
 …
 Besides, Spice is a bad name for some kind of media program; Spice
 is the name of a powerful and useful electronic engineering program!

 Both sides should be more precise in the terminology, so they don't mix
 uppercase and lowercase, sure. ;)

 http://www.spice-space.org/
 The Simple Protocol for Independent Computing Environments (SPICE)
 SPICE/Xspice

 http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/
 Ngspice is a general-purpose circuit simulator program.
 Ngspice/XSPICE
 
 If you wish to be pedantic, SPICE is the original name, possibly
 before you were born.
 
 {^_^}


Then say something nice to *them*. ;)


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Re: python-espeak

2013-05-31 Thread Christopher Meng
Quoted from its homepage:

[There are no stable releases yet. The code available in trunk may or
may not work; feel free to try it, but don't blame me if it lets your
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Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 May 2013 23:58:21 -0700
T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO it would be nicer if the script that spews out broken dependency
 e-mails also emitted them on the fedmsg bus.  Then you'd just have to
 grep for .so in the broken dependencies and rebuild then, instead of
 having to check every single koji build for broken dependencies twice.

yeah, we have looked into adding fedmsg for broken deps at one point,
just haven't gotten to it. 

 BTW, where is that script?  The EPEL version seems to be here [1], but
 I can't find the Fedora analog.

It uses the one from the mash package: 

https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/mash/tree/utils/spam-o-matic

changes/patches/etc should be against mash. 

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Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:44:21 -0700
T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
  On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:02:17 -0400
  Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
   11) automatic period rebuilds in rawhide to highlight FTBFS
   issues aren't done as often anymore
   Can you expand on this? Not sure what you mean?
 
  What Matt Domsch was doing for
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fails_to_build_from_source
 
  Ah, sure, yeah. FTBFS runs would be a great little project.
 
 We've done a mass rebuild for GCC updates or other things pretty much
 every release for the last several releases anyway, and these have
 caught lots of FTBFS issues.  Is there really any reason to do this
 specifically for FTBFS?

Well, if we wanted to run them more often than once every 6 months.
Also, we have in the past not done mass rebuilds for some releases
(where there is no change that needs one), which could mean a year or
more between runs. 

With enough computing power you can do a run in a week or so. 

Also, having the infrastructure setup to do them (scripts, etc) would
allow us to do them for proposed changes. Ie, We could do a mass
rebuild with PIE on by default and see what breaks and let people
install those packages to test, or changing other compiler or base
options. 

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livecd-iso-to-disk produces unbootable media for EFI computers

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Murphy
dd works, but livecd-iso-to-disk produces unbootable media.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969521



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Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 22:57 +1000, Chris Smart wrote:
 On 14/11/12 01:40, Matthew Miller wrote:
  With that timeline, I think it's going to be hard to *use* it for F18 Final,
  but I can certainily start testing it. Then, we can look at adopting it for
  F19.
 
 Have we adopted livemedia-creator for 19, or still using livecd-creator?

Still livecd-creator for F19.
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Re: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 10:54 -0400, Alon Levy wrote:
  On 05/30/2013 11:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:
   On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:
   Are you tired of using VNC?
  
   Nope.
   Do you have any issues with VNC?
  
   It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
   lots of spice's advanced features...
  
  
  Can Spice be used to connect to an already running Gnome desktop for
  remote support purposes?
 
 No, it can't do that. You can launch a completely independent X server 
 (Xspice), but not remote an existing one. That could potentially be done by 
 having two graphics drivers for a single X.

I suppose we should've noted that, slightly contrary to the test day
announcement, Spice wasn't exactly written as a direct VNC replacement
for all of VNC's traditional use cases. It was mainly focused on use for
virtualization, that is its primary design focus ATM. It 'replaces' VNC
in that specific context, not necessarily for everything you might use
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Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 10:52 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:44:21 -0700
 T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
   On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:02:17 -0400
   Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
11) automatic period rebuilds in rawhide to highlight FTBFS
issues aren't done as often anymore
Can you expand on this? Not sure what you mean?
  
   What Matt Domsch was doing for
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fails_to_build_from_source
  
   Ah, sure, yeah. FTBFS runs would be a great little project.
  
  We've done a mass rebuild for GCC updates or other things pretty much
  every release for the last several releases anyway, and these have
  caught lots of FTBFS issues.  Is there really any reason to do this
  specifically for FTBFS?
 
 Well, if we wanted to run them more often than once every 6 months.
 Also, we have in the past not done mass rebuilds for some releases
 (where there is no change that needs one), which could mean a year or
 more between runs. 

I think we sorta decided when Matt stopped doing the FTBFS runs that
we'd at least do one mass rebuild for each release, just to keep things
up to date and catch FTBFSes. I might be remembering wrong, though.
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Dropping byzanz

2013-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I released ownership of byzanz - I haven't used it in a long time and no
longer have the time/interest to maintain it.

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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 31/05/2013 17:04, poma ha scritto:
 On 31.05.2013 16:34, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 04:20:00PM +0200, poma wrote:
 In addition to your method,
 'qemu-kvm -sdl' is only able to produce
 Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
 despite guidance at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Virtualization_problems#SDL_Graphics

 This might be a bug, or it might be that you don't have a video device
 available (are you running this at the text console or over ssh?)

 SDL works pretty reliably for me though, but if you can't get it to
 work you should file a bug with detailed information about versions
 and how to reproduce it.
 
 But what about this one?
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880152#c3

That's a RHEL bug.  For what it's worth, in RHEL you're not even
supposed to invoke qemu-kvm, it's in /usr/libexec.

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Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-05-31 Thread Miro Hrončok

Hi all,
few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer Assistant 
[0] is.


When I said something like: ...and you project is exported directly to 
GitHub [1] if you want, the person I was talking to interrupted me and 
asked an interesting question:


Why our own tools prefer a proprietary service, such as GitHub, over our 
own infrastructure (Fedora Hosted.org)?


The answer is very easy: Because developers prefer GitHub over Fedora 
Hosted and we want to target on the majority.


That leads us to other question: Why do developers prefer GitHub over 
Fedora Hosted?


Of course not each developer uses Fedora etc., but even many of our own 
projects are usually hosted on GitHub or Bitbucket - see Developer 
Assistant itself or Yumex as an example. Try to search Fedora on GitHub [2].


But other reason is, Fedora Hosted user/developer experience is way 
worse than GitHub's. Even for a registration or a small change you need 
to create a ticket, there is no interface for pull requests or similar 
things (or not that I am aware of). Browsing the projects (user 
friendly), whatever.


I would like to change that and make Fedora Hosted infrastructure 
something, that can compete GitHub. Or at least provide a service that 
developers using Fedora would consider as a choice.


What about running something as GitLab [3] or Gitorious [4] on Fedora 
Hosted, add continuous integration for creating repos with nightly RPMs, 
integrate it with FAS, brand it with Fedora graphics, add more stuff and 
make it cool. Simply provide a truly open alternative for developers 
that not only develop free software, but also are interested in freedom 
and openness?


Than we can provide our own service, that our tools can integrate with 
as default. I don't except developers will leave GitHub and move to 
Fedora Hosted, so there is nothing wrong on supporting GitHub in our 
tools. But wouldn't it make more sense to promote our own services at 
the first place? Why support a company that makes profit and is not 
related to Fedora at all?


Of course you can argue that Fedora's main goal is not to provide free 
software hosting service, but then why we offer Fedora Hosted in the 
first place, right?


[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant
[1] 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant#GitHub_Integration

[2] https://github.com/search?q=fedora
[3] http://gitlab.org/
[4] http://gitorious.org/

* I haven't got time to ask for permission to publicly quote this person 
about this on the list, but if you are the person and want the 
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F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Jos Vos
Hi,

When I create a DVD image with pungi with an own package selection,
the image works fine and starts the graphical installer when I only
use the F18 release repository.  But when I also add the F18 updates
repository, the graphical installer doesn't start anymore and at that
moment I get a login prompt.  Installing via VNC works fine in either
case.

When I login at the login prompt, I see a [Xorg] defunct with
python anaconda as parent.and in /tmp/anaconda.log I see
X startup failed, falling back to text mode (which isn't true,
no fallback is done).

Any suggestions about how solve this problem and/or how to find out
what is exactly causing it?

I'm testing the DVD images with KVM on F18 and RHEL6 (same behavior).

Thx,

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Re: F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-01 at 00:10 +0200, Jos Vos wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I create a DVD image with pungi with an own package selection,
 the image works fine and starts the graphical installer when I only
 use the F18 release repository.  But when I also add the F18 updates
 repository, the graphical installer doesn't start anymore and at that
 moment I get a login prompt.  Installing via VNC works fine in either
 case.
 
 When I login at the login prompt, I see a [Xorg] defunct with
 python anaconda as parent.and in /tmp/anaconda.log I see
 X startup failed, falling back to text mode (which isn't true,
 no fallback is done).
 
 Any suggestions about how solve this problem and/or how to find out
 what is exactly causing it?

Well, it rather sounds like you'd want to check /tmp/X.log ?
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Re: F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:18:39PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

 Well, it rather sounds like you'd want to check /tmp/X.log ?

True... this is the tail of that file:

[ 7.559] (II) CIRRUS: driver for Cirrus chipsets: CLGD5430, CLGD5434-4, 
CLGD5434-8,
CLGD5436, CLGD5446, CLGD5480, CL-GD5462, CL-GD5464, CL-GD5464BD,
CL-GD5465, CL-GD7548, CL-GD7555, CL-GD7556
[ 7.559] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[ 7.559] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[ 7.559] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[ 7.559] (++) using VT number 6

[ 7.580] 
Fatal server error:
[ 7.580] xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Input/output error
[ 7.580] 
[ 7.580] (EE) 
Please consult the Fedora Project support 
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[ 7.580] (EE) Please also check the log file at /tmp/X.log for additional 
information.
[ 7.580] (EE) 

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Re: Fwd: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 31.05.2013 22:12, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
 Il 31/05/2013 17:04, poma ha scritto:
 On 31.05.2013 16:34, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 04:20:00PM +0200, poma wrote:
 In addition to your method,
 'qemu-kvm -sdl' is only able to produce
 Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
 despite guidance at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Virtualization_problems#SDL_Graphics

 This might be a bug, or it might be that you don't have a video device
 available (are you running this at the text console or over ssh?)

 SDL works pretty reliably for me though, but if you can't get it to
 work you should file a bug with detailed information about versions
 and how to reproduce it.

 But what about this one?
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880152#c3
 
 That's a RHEL bug.  For what it's worth, in RHEL you're not even
 supposed to invoke qemu-kvm, it's in /usr/libexec.

Actually it's *RHEL7* bug report, and what is important to note is
missed SDL support. ;)
BTW regarding that and correcting my previous statement,
'virsh'  'virt-manager' are troubled ones in Fedora,
not 'qemu-kvm' per se.
And as icing on the cake,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536693 it seems that the
story is finished.
Ta ta ta ta. :)


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Re: F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-01 at 00:25 +0200, Jos Vos wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:18:39PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
  Well, it rather sounds like you'd want to check /tmp/X.log ?
 
 True... this is the tail of that file:
 
 [ 7.559] (II) CIRRUS: driver for Cirrus chipsets: CLGD5430, CLGD5434-4, 
 CLGD5434-8,
   CLGD5436, CLGD5446, CLGD5480, CL-GD5462, CL-GD5464, CL-GD5464BD,
   CL-GD5465, CL-GD7548, CL-GD7555, CL-GD7556
 [ 7.559] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
 [ 7.559] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
 [ 7.559] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
 [ 7.559] (++) using VT number 6
 
 [ 7.580] 
 Fatal server error:
 [ 7.580] xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Input/output error
 [ 7.580] 
 [ 7.580] (EE) 
 Please consult the Fedora Project support 
at http://wiki.x.org
  for help. 
 [ 7.580] (EE) Please also check the log file at /tmp/X.log for 
 additional information.
 [ 7.580] (EE) 

Does it work if you configure your VM(?) to use something other than a
cirrus adapter? 'vga' or 'qxl'?
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Re: F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:18:39PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

 Well, it rather sounds like you'd want to check /tmp/X.log ?

OK, it is already filed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917160

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Re: Thursday is Spice Test Day!

2013-05-31 Thread poma
On 31.05.2013 19:31, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 10:54 -0400, Alon Levy wrote:
 On 05/30/2013 11:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:53 +0200, poma wrote:
 On 30.05.2013 14:16, Martin Holec wrote:
 Are you tired of using VNC?

 Nope.
 Do you have any issues with VNC?

 It's slow, doesn't have as good guest integration as Spice, and misses
 lots of spice's advanced features...


 Can Spice be used to connect to an already running Gnome desktop for
 remote support purposes?

 No, it can't do that. You can launch a completely independent X server 
 (Xspice), but not remote an existing one. That could potentially be done by 
 having two graphics drivers for a single X.
 
 I suppose we should've noted that, slightly contrary to the test day
 announcement, Spice wasn't exactly written as a direct VNC replacement
 for all of VNC's traditional use cases. It was mainly focused on use for
 virtualization, that is its primary design focus ATM. It 'replaces' VNC
 in that specific context, not necessarily for everything you might use
 VNC to do.

Exactly!
And that's why Are you tired of using VNC? don't fit in the first
place. :)
Have a nice weekend.


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Re: F18 updates break pungi-created media

2013-05-31 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:28:30PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

 Does it work if you configure your VM(?) to use something other than a
 cirrus adapter? 'vga' or 'qxl'?

Nope, I just tried both, but the error messages differ (as also listed
in the bugzilla report).

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Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-05-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 31 May 2013 15:19, Miro Hrončok mhron...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer Assistant
 [0] is.

 When I said something like: ...and you project is exported directly to
 GitHub [1] if you want, the person I was talking to interrupted me and
 asked an interesting question:

 Why our own tools prefer a proprietary service, such as GitHub, over our
 own infrastructure (Fedora Hosted.org)?

 The answer is very easy: Because developers prefer GitHub over Fedora
 Hosted and we want to target on the majority.

 That leads us to other question: Why do developers prefer GitHub over
 Fedora Hosted?

 Of course not each developer uses Fedora etc., but even many of our own
 projects are usually hosted on GitHub or Bitbucket - see Developer
 Assistant itself or Yumex as an example. Try to search Fedora on GitHub [2].

 But other reason is, Fedora Hosted user/developer experience is way worse
 than GitHub's. Even for a registration or a small change you need to create
 a ticket, there is no interface for pull requests or similar things (or not
 that I am aware of). Browsing the projects (user friendly), whatever.

 I would like to change that and make Fedora Hosted infrastructure
 something, that can compete GitHub. Or at least provide a service that
 developers using Fedora would consider as a choice.


Actually I was going to ask the opposite question: Do we still need
FedoraHosted? It was created before there was GitHub or Gitorious but
frankly we are not funded or staffed to make it bigger and better than it
is now. The systems are 2 virtual machines with one as primary and one as
fallback. It is not a large set of systems and is made on the backbone of
compromises of We won't use FedoraHosted unless you support X VCS
system... none of the things that Github or Gitorious or even Savannah has
had to deal with :).

So we could clean up the front end a lot, but the back end would not be any
better and would end up being fresh wine in an old wineskin. There will
be no speedup in git pull/push, and if more users like the frontend the
resulting load may cause the backend to go south. If people are interested
in redoing fedorahosted it needs to be from the backend up. Redundant
storage, fast mirroring on the backend (gluster and such are not the answer
because we are dealing with lots of small files that change randomly versus
large block and similar things where cluster file systems shine), plus
funding for such services (hardware and software) as they are not cheap.
[Looking at doing this in the Cloud was coming in around $100.00/day for
all the different needs.]



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Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-05-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:19:50 +0200
Miro Hrončok mhron...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer
 Assistant [0] is.
 
 When I said something like: ...and you project is exported directly
 to GitHub [1] if you want, the person I was talking to interrupted
 me and asked an interesting question:
 
 Why our own tools prefer a proprietary service, such as GitHub, over
 our own infrastructure (Fedora Hosted.org)?
 
 The answer is very easy: Because developers prefer GitHub over Fedora 
 Hosted and we want to target on the majority.
 
 That leads us to other question: Why do developers prefer GitHub over 
 Fedora Hosted?

 Of course not each developer uses Fedora etc., but even many of our
 own projects are usually hosted on GitHub or Bitbucket - see
 Developer Assistant itself or Yumex as an example. Try to search
 Fedora on GitHub [2].

Sure, and others are on savannah, or sourceforge or their own
infrastructure. The net is a big place. ;) 
 
 But other reason is, Fedora Hosted user/developer experience is way 
 worse than GitHub's. Even for a registration or a small change you
 need to create a ticket, 

Indeed. I've been making sure all hosted tickets are done in under 4
hours (and often in minutes), but I agree it can be a turn off. 

 there is no interface for pull requests or
 similar things (or not that I am aware of). Browsing the projects
 (user friendly), whatever.
 
 I would like to change that and make Fedora Hosted infrastructure 
 something, that can compete GitHub. Or at least provide a service
 that developers using Fedora would consider as a choice.

 What about running something as GitLab [3] 

Please see the many posts on gitlab on the fedora infrastructure
list. ;) 

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2013-April/thread.html
and search for 'gitlab' ;) 

a) It's not (yet) packaged, although I think some GSoC folks are
working on it. 

b) Until very recently upstream was very much oriented toward a private
company setup. They refused patches to provide anon browsing and using
of gitlab features. Happily it looks like this is changing, but as it
is now, gitlab does not provide a 'open github' type thing. :) 

 or Gitorious [4] on Fedora 

Gitorious lacks many of the features you mention as compelling in
github above. ;) Also not packaged. 

Both of those also don't provide some features people want. (release
downloads, non git scms, fedmsg integration, management of groups via
fas, etc). 

 Hosted, add continuous integration for creating repos with nightly
 RPMs, integrate it with FAS, brand it with Fedora graphics, add more
 stuff and make it cool. Simply provide a truly open alternative for
 developers that not only develop free software, but also are
 interested in freedom and openness?

I'm not against such a plan at all, but it has to be done in a
sustainable way, and I don't think we have manpower to do anything like
this of current folks. If a team of people interested in doing this
(and doing it right) appeared, I'd be happy to help. 

We have a more modest ideas page for a v2 fedorahosted: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraHosted_Version2_Notes
Probibly needs some updating for current status, etc. 

 Than we can provide our own service, that our tools can integrate
 with as default. I don't except developers will leave GitHub and move
 to Fedora Hosted, so there is nothing wrong on supporting GitHub in
 our tools. But wouldn't it make more sense to promote our own
 services at the first place? Why support a company that makes profit
 and is not related to Fedora at all?

Sure, but there's only 24 hours in a day. ;) 

kevin


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Re: git rebase master

2013-05-31 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Ter, 2013-05-28 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: 
 On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:41:08 +0100
 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
 
  
  I done it
  http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/debconf.git/log/
  
  but now [debconf] Created branch HEAD, we have a a branch called
  HEAD , can the git administrator of Fedora delete this branch ? 
 
 Done. 
 
 Note that you should next time request this by filing a ticket in
 releng trac. ;) 

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Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Smart
On 01/06/13 03:25, Adam Williamson wrote:
  Have we adopted livemedia-creator for 19, or still using livecd-creator?
 Still livecd-creator for F19.

Thanks.
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[Bug 914316] perl-Net-Twitter-4.00006 is available

2013-05-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=914316

Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 
changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-Net-Twitter-4.5 is |perl-Net-Twitter-4.6 is
   |available   |available

--- Comment #5 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org ---
Latest upstream release: 4.6
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 4.4
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Twitter/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[perl-Test-Vars] Update to 0.005

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5619d8e00640bf658de9c82bfa01739298f67c91
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Fri May 31 10:23:38 2013 +0100

Update to 0.005

- New upstream release 0.005
  - Use skip_all instead of planning 0 tests (#4)

 perl-Test-Vars.spec |6 +-
 sources |2 +-
 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Test-Vars.spec b/perl-Test-Vars.spec
index f50b99e..bfa7af6 100644
--- a/perl-Test-Vars.spec
+++ b/perl-Test-Vars.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-Test-Vars
-Version:   0.004
+Version:   0.005
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Detects unused variables
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -65,6 +65,10 @@ perl Build.PL installdirs=vendor
 %{_mandir}/man3/Test::Vars.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri May 31 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.005-1
+- Update to 0.005
+  - Use skip_all instead of planning 0 tests (#4)
+
 * Sun May  5 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.004-1
 - Update to 0.004
   - Re-package with Module::Build
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 9951bfe..5944329 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1702a5ddbd9fe1aa32da18f291f3a9d7  Test-Vars-0.004.tar.gz
+56a763c785f66e4ae0edd2b4e613dc19  Test-Vars-0.005.tar.gz
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[perl-Test-Vars] Created tag perl-Test-Vars-0.005-1.fc20

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Vars-0.005-1.fc20' was created pointing to:

 5619d8e... Update to 0.005
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[Bug 969418] New: perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31 is available

2013-05-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969418

Bug ID: 969418
   Summary: perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Module-ExtractUse
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
  Assignee: berra...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: berra...@redhat.com, p...@city-fan.org,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
trem...@tremble.org.uk

Latest upstream release: 0.31
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.30
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-ExtractUse/

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stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-ExtractUse:

3479619cef2f66d565d7403d384c15ff  Module-ExtractUse-0.31.tar.gz
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[perl-Module-ExtractUse] Update to 0.31

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5f4ea58e9eb2f523098d86f4dee1405326df39c3
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Fri May 31 13:03:29 2013 +0100

Update to 0.31

- New upstream release 0.31
  - Support use Foo::Bar (); etc. (CPAN RT#50723)
  - use after statement with trailing comment was ignored (CPAN RT#71761)
  - Fixed the Pod::Simple encoding issue
  - Fix incorrect regexp (ref gh-5)
  - Avoid regex features introduced only in later perl (close gh-5)
  - Use plan() instead of done_testing() (ref gh-5)
  - Add support for bareword leading hyphyen, in-place arrayref and hashref
  - Proper version number for older releases in Changes file

 perl-Module-ExtractUse.spec |   13 -
 sources |2 +-
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Module-ExtractUse.spec b/perl-Module-ExtractUse.spec
index f8ef6f1..22269d6 100644
--- a/perl-Module-ExtractUse.spec
+++ b/perl-Module-ExtractUse.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-Module-ExtractUse
-Version:0.30
+Version:0.31
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Find out what modules are used
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -55,6 +55,17 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/Module::ExtractUse::Grammar.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri May 31 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.31-1
+- Update to 0.31
+  - Support use Foo::Bar (); etc. (CPAN RT#50723)
+  - use after statement with trailing comment was ignored (CPAN RT#71761)
+  - Fixed the Pod::Simple encoding issue
+  - Fix incorrect regexp (ref gh-5)
+  - Avoid regex features introduced only in later perl (close gh-5)
+  - Use plan() instead of done_testing() (ref gh-5)
+  - Add support for bareword leading hyphyen, in-place arrayref and hashref
+  - Proper version number for older releases in Changes file
+
 * Thu Apr 18 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.30-1
 - Update to 0.30
   - Add accessors and tests for _in_eval/_out_of_eval
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index ff1808c..119750b 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1f6addffde26aa4317a447bdeff80b97  Module-ExtractUse-0.30.tar.gz
+3479619cef2f66d565d7403d384c15ff  Module-ExtractUse-0.31.tar.gz
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Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene

2013-05-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene has broken dependencies in the F-19 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
On i386:
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-SamTools

2013-05-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Bio-SamTools has broken dependencies in the F-19 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
On i386:
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-SamTools

2013-05-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Bio-SamTools has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
On i386:
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.i686 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene

2013-05-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
On i386:
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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[perl-Module-ExtractUse] Created tag perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31-1.fc20

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31-1.fc20' was created pointing 
to:

 5f4ea58... Update to 0.31
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[Bug 969418] perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31 is available

2013-05-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969418

Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.31
   ||-1.fc20
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2013-05-31 08:25:49

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2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Update to 1.93

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 3ed72db8d26050fe3a765844432bf981fcc9b11e
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Fri May 31 13:33:10 2013 +0100

Update to 1.93

- New upstream release 1.93
  - Need at least OpenSSL version 0.9.8 now, since last 0.9.7 was released 6
years ago; remove code to work around older releases
  - Changed AUTHOR in Makefile.PL from array back to string, because the 
array
feature is not available in MakeMaker shipped with 5.8.9 (CPAN RT#85739)
- Set openssl version requirement to 0.9.8
- Drop ExtUtils::MakeMaker version requirement back to 6.46

 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec |   17 +
 sources |2 +-
 2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec b/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
index 9d677ae..420cf69 100644
--- a/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
+++ b/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.92
+Version:   1.93
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -8,11 +8,11 @@ URL:  http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-SSL/
 Source0:   
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SU/SULLR/IO-Socket-SSL-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(id -nu)
 BuildArch: noarch
-BuildRequires: openssl = 0.9.8a
+BuildRequires: openssl = 0.9.8
 BuildRequires: perl(Carp)
 BuildRequires: perl(constant)
 BuildRequires: perl(Exporter)
-BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.58
+BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.46
 BuildRequires: perl(IO::Select)
 BuildRequires: perl(IO::Socket)
 BuildRequires: perl(IO::Socket::INET)
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ Requires: perl(IO::Socket::INET6), perl(Socket6)
 %endif
 Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `perl -V:version`; echo $version))
 Requires:  perl(Net::LibIDN)
-Requires:  openssl = 0.9.8a
+Requires:  openssl = 0.9.8
 
 %description
 This module is a true drop-in replacement for IO::Socket::INET that
@@ -70,6 +70,15 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL::Utils.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri May 31 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.93-1
+- Update to 1.93
+  - Need at least OpenSSL version 0.9.8 now, since last 0.9.7 was released 6
+years ago; remove code to work around older releases
+  - Changed AUTHOR in Makefile.PL from array back to string, because the array
+feature is not available in MakeMaker shipped with 5.8.9 (CPAN RT#85739)
+- Set openssl version requirement to 0.9.8
+- Drop ExtUtils::MakeMaker version requirement back to 6.46
+
 * Thu May 30 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.92-1
 - Update to 1.92
   - Intercept: use sha1-fingerprint of original cert for id into cache unless
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 443f412..0be6f36 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-d653aa674face0905d6fb1971bd31453  IO-Socket-SSL-1.92.tar.gz
+19ce0c62b3521fe9e4560255fe2943f1  IO-Socket-SSL-1.93.tar.gz
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[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Created tag perl-IO-Socket-SSL-1.93-1.fc20

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-IO-Socket-SSL-1.93-1.fc20' was created pointing to:

 3ed72db... Update to 1.93
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[Bug 965606] Upgrade to new upstream version

2013-05-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965606

--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
perl-No-Worries-1.0-1.fc18 has been pushed to the Fedora 18 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 965606] Upgrade to new upstream version

2013-05-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965606

--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
perl-No-Worries-1.0-1.fc19 has been pushed to the Fedora 19 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[389-devel] please review: Ticket 47372 - Make old idl_maxids tunable

2013-05-31 Thread Mark Reynolds

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47372

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47372/0001-Ticket-47372-make-old-idl-tunable.patch

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