Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 13:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> Has that been tried before? It sounds like a better approach.

Not while I've been around, at least.

> Where is the human to notice "comments after EOL" and act accordingly?

There are always a minimum of two people active on any ticket who can
change it in any way: the reporter and the assignee.

> How many tickets would be affected by a "comment after EOL"?

Don't know, probably wouldn't be too hard to look.

> What is the underlying problem here anyway?

I've never been hugely convinced there is one, but the problem people
*claim* there is is that closing bugs on EOL releases gives a bad
impression to people who report the bugs.

> Too many unhandled tickets -> EOL auto-close threatening -> too many
> closed tickets to handle -> how to escape from that loop?
> 
> In several large upstream bug trackers it is no different. Are developers
> always informed about what doesn't work even when not responding to
> tickets? Why should users still take the time to submit problem reports
> if they don't get a response?

Why do you think they're any more likely to get a response if the bug
stays open?

> > algorithms are never perfect, but we do have to use them, as a
> > perennially under-resourced project.
> 
> I've posted about it in 2008 already, and I still think the auto-closing
> leads to hiding crap under the carpet.

We already don't have enough time to look after all the open bugs we
have. Why are things going to be better if we have more?
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Re: Adjust wiki for ARM BeagleBone Black

2014-02-06 Thread Dennis Gilmore
That's not necessary abcboard is not used and has been removed from newer uboot 
builds uEnv.text files.

Dennis

On February 7, 2014 3:13:27 AM CET, Marcelo Barbosa 
 wrote:
>Peter,
>
>   Changed in this part:
>
>Change one option in this file(only BeagleBone Black):
>
>vi /run/media/$USER/uboot/uEnv.txt
>abcboard=am335x-bone > abcboard=am335x-boneblack
>
>Added.
>
>firemanxbr
>
>
>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Peter Robinson 
>wrote:
>
>> >I adjusted this documentation in wiki:
>> >
>>
>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#For_the_BeagleBone_Black
>> >
>> >Added this important step to create image of Fedora 20 for
>BeagleBone
>> > Black board.
>>
>>
>> "this important step" being what exactly?
>>
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Re: Packages installing files to /etc/rpm

2014-02-06 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
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On 02/01/2014 03:23 AM, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> A number of packages install files to /etc/rpm in Rawhide; the
> proper place for macros.* is /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d for rpm >= 4.11.
> And no matter what the location, these files should not be marked
> as %config.
> 
...
> s4504kr gnustep-make s4504kr,salimma

Fixed in gnustep-make-2.6.6-2

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[Bug 1062424] CVE-2014-1875 perl-Capture-Tiny: insecure temporary file usage

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062424

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   What|Removed |Added

 CC||mmcal...@redhat.com



--- Comment #3 from Murray McAllister  ---
This issue was assigned CVE-2014-1875: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q1/272

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[Bug 1062424] CVE-2014-1875 perl-Capture-Tiny: insecure temporary file usage

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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Summary|perl-Capture-Tiny: insecure |CVE-2014-1875
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[Bug 1062424] perl-Capture-Tiny: insecure temporary file usage

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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  Alias||CVE-2014-1875



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Re: f20, anaconda, net install and video out of range ....

2014-02-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 14:28 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:

> > Why would it not install xorg-x11-drv-cirrus when it sees the physical
> > card?
> 
> We don't have anything like the kernel's modaliases for X drivers, at
> least not exposed in a way anaconda could use.

Of course, it's possible to do this. "all" you need is some poor sap to
maintain something like this:

http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/ldetect-lst/trunk/lst/pcitable?view=markup

I was that poor sap, for a year or two. It was not an enjoyable
experience. Yes, I know pciids exists: it's a useful resource if you're
the poor sap who has to maintain a list like that, but it doesn't solve
everything (it doesn't do the actual driver mapping, for a start).

What X does is dumb, and very simple: it basically looks at the
manufacturer ID and picks a driver based on that. If you've got a Cirrus
card, you're getting cirrus. If you've got an ATI card, you're getting
'ati'. If you've got an NVIDIA card, you're getting nouveau. I think it
has a very few quirks and exceptions, but really not many. Even if we
'exposed' X's autodetection stuff, it wouldn't be doing a whole lot of
device-by-device distinctions.

If some poor sap is willing to spend literally dozens of hours a release
painstakingly hand-weeding something like M*a's ldetect-lst you can get
some minor benefits, like doing this kind of distinction where we want
to load the native driver for a real card but not qemu's emulated
cirrus. Or blacklist cards known not to currently work with their native
driver. Or load the correct generation of proprietary driver, if your
distribution cares about proprietary drivers. (Or combine the above,
like THIS nvidia card needs THIS proprietary driver, THIS one doesn't
work right with the proprietary driver so we should use nouveau, and
THIS one doesn't work with anything so let's load the fallback driver.)

But it's incredibly dull work and the benefit really isn't that _huge_.
I feel like my time is probably more productively spent, overall, doing
other things.

Of course, we're 'just' talking about one case, but once you start
building this kind of manual device/driver table, it tends to take on a
mind of its own and start multiplying. I'm rather attached to the policy
of Just Saying No.
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Re: Orphaned packages

2014-02-06 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Toshio Kuratomi  wrote:
> npajkovs:

Weird, In Dec 2013 he(staff@RH) did an update to ipraf-ng
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[Bug 970742] Test-File-ShareDir 0.3.3 is available

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970742



--- Comment #2 from Ken Dreyer  ---
Created attachment 860373
  --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=860373&action=edit
Update to Test::File::ShareDir 0.3.3.

Hi Iain, Path::Tiny is now in Fedora (bug 1003660).

Here's a patch against master/rawhide.

F21 scratch build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6503255

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Re: Adjust wiki for ARM BeagleBone Black

2014-02-06 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
Peter,

   Changed in this part:

Change one option in this file(only BeagleBone Black):

vi /run/media/$USER/uboot/uEnv.txt
abcboard=am335x-bone > abcboard=am335x-boneblack

Added.

firemanxbr


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> >I adjusted this documentation in wiki:
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#For_the_BeagleBone_Black
> >
> >Added this important step to create image of Fedora 20 for BeagleBone
> > Black board.
>
>
> "this important step" being what exactly?
>
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[Bug 1058709] FTBFS: perl-DBD-SQLite-1.40-2.fc21: tests fail

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058709



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[Bug 1058723] FTBFS: perl-DBD-Pg-2.19.3-5.fc21: tests fail

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 1058709] FTBFS: perl-DBD-SQLite-1.40-2.fc21: tests fail

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 1052853] Unnecessary dependencies

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052853

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   Fixed In Version|perl-Throwable-0.102080-11. |perl-Throwable-0.102080-11.
   |fc20|fc19



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[Bug 1052853] Unnecessary dependencies

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Throwable-0.102080-11.
   ||fc20
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2014-02-06 22:11:47



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[Bug 1058723] FTBFS: perl-DBD-Pg-2.19.3-5.fc21: tests fail

2014-02-06 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Request to take over package amavisd-new

2014-02-06 Thread Christopher Meng
Yes please take it.

This package on EPEL has permission problem.
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Re: Adjust wiki for ARM BeagleBone Black

2014-02-06 Thread Peter Robinson
>I adjusted this documentation in wiki:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#For_the_BeagleBone_Black
>
>Added this important step to create image of Fedora 20 for BeagleBone
> Black board.


"this important step" being what exactly?

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Re: yum-builddep bash completion

2014-02-06 Thread Josh Stone
On 02/06/2014 01:42 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Does any packager use yum-builddep bash completion and would like
> to explain it to me?
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/884303

I don't know about that in particular, but one handy trick is to use
bash complete-filename (M-/) instead of the general complete (TAB).

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yum-builddep bash completion

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
Does any packager use yum-builddep bash completion and would like
to explain it to me?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/884303
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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:06:07AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, all those bugs stay open on the EOL version until EOL+1?
> 
> That seems poor to me. What do we do if someone clears needinfo and
> says: Yes, this still affects me, I am running EOL release. Please fix
> it.
> 
> We cannot, the EOL release is closed, no more updates or support. 
> 
> How does leaving it open there help?

It doesn't, but I think the trouble of closing those by hand is overall less
than the problem of closing too many bugs


> > EOL wouldn't be visibile as an available status for bugzilla
> > users to select when closing a bug in the interface, so it does not
> > add to UI clutter, but also makes it easy for us to do reports
> > distinguishing between intentional and eol closure.
> Is this possible?

I believe so -- you only make the transition available to the Fedora EOL
user account. But because it's bugzilla, this kind of thing may involve
writing some Perl, and I'm sympathetic to the bugzilla maintenance team not
wanting to deal with that. (That's the main reason for suggesting the second
option, of setting a keyword instead.)


> > This does risk some false positives (negatives? whatever) where
> > NEEDINFO is cleared with "works for me" but the bug not closed, but
> > that seems like a less serious problem.
> Yeah, thats another issue with this... they would stick around in that
> case until the maintainer or someone came in and cleared them. 

Yes, but see the other message. At the very least, I bet it will be dozens
or at worst hundreds, which is a managable amount for people interested in
helping with EOL triage. On the other side, we have many thousands of
auto-closed bugs right now. And I think that triage work would really only
be needed if we end up feeling that we've tilted the balance too far in the
direction of making the package maintainers clean up.

> > 3.  As #1, but just leave bugs in NEEDINFO state forever.
> > This would possibly require maintainers to update their searches /
> > filters to leave out NEEDINFO bugs, or at least NEEDINFO bugs
> > from older releases.
> It would also be misleading, IMHO. 
> "Hey reporter, I need info to fix this" 

In this case, the message would be something like "We're sorry we weren't
able to resolve this bug within the lifespan of Fedora ##. We do appreciate
the report, and we may be able to fix it in the next release. Could you
please confirm that this is still an issue in the latest release of Fedora?
Thank you."

With this message, if needinfo is cleared, and then the bug isn't touched
for a long time, it would probably be a good candidate for human triage.

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Re: Request to take over package amavisd-new

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 22:07:52 +0100, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Last week, I notified the devel list about Steven Pritchard (FAS: steve) been 
> unresponsive [1], and after many unsuccessful attempts to get bug #695589 
> fixed 
> [2], I request to take over the package amavisd-new.
> 
> Any objection?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/194940.html
> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695589

No objections.

There are a couple of packagers where the "non-responsive maintainer
procedure" doesn't work well, because after a long period of inactivity
the maintainer returns only briefly and temporarily. In some cases that
has lead to starting the procedure again after some months.

We need more maintainers per package, so if there is interest in the
package, that's great IMO.
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EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2014-02-06 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 656  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5
 146  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11560/fail2ban-0.8.10-4.el5
 110  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5
  85  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12091/bip-0.8.9-1.el5
  75  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12169/gc-7.1-6.el5
  26  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0132/graphviz-2.12-10.el5
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0400/mediawiki119-1.19.11-2.el5
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0418/libyaml-0.1.2-5.el5
   6  
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Request to take over package amavisd-new

2014-02-06 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
Hello,

Last week, I notified the devel list about Steven Pritchard (FAS: steve) been 
unresponsive [1], and after many unsuccessful attempts to get bug #695589 fixed 
[2], I request to take over the package amavisd-new.

Any objection?

Thank you.

[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/194940.html
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695589

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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:49:26AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Your whole proposal more or less *is* the heuristic 'don't autoclose
> bugs with comments', because of how needinfo works in RH bugzilla. It's
> not a status (as you imply by writing NEEDINFO) but a flag. If you set
> the needinfo flag not against a specific person but against 'anyone',
> then by default, the next person who posts a comment of any kind will
> clear the flag - they have to uncheck a little box if they want to *not*
> clear the flag.

Thanks, yes. Once upon a time in the decent past (like, embarrassingly long
ago) it *was* a status, and apparently way too much of that is still in my
brain. I went back and reread what I wrote, and I think it still makes sense
with your clarification. The above was certainly exactly why I propose this
-- it's not just moving around what we happen to call things, but has an
actual positive change to the user experience.

It is the case that it being a flag rather than a status makes it a bit
more complicated to set up searches for bugs which are open but don't have
the flag set. But it's still doable, so I hope that doesn't undermine it too
much.



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Re: "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

2014-02-06 Thread Paul Wouters

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:


which is user 0
that is yours, an not only yours
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820


This workaround solved my problem: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788#c2

basically:

cat > /etc/systemd/system/sshd-shutdown.service [Unit]
Description=kill all sshd sessions
Requires=mutil-user.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/bin/killall sshd
Type=oneshot

[Install]
WantedBy=shutdown.target reboot.target poweroff.target

systemctl daemon-reload
systemctl enable sshd-shutdown.service


Thanks for the pointer Harald!

I do hope the systemd people can fix the real problem with sshd.

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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Pete Travis
On Feb 6, 2014 11:06 AM, "Kevin Fenzi"  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 04:00:17 -0500
> Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> > I would like to see one of the following, in order of preference:
> >
> > 1.  Step one: when a release hits EOL, move the bugs to NEEDINFO with
> > a notice similar to the current one. (Essentially moving the
> > current warning back a little bit.)
> >
> > Step one point five: I believe pretty much anyone can clear the
> > NEEDINFO flag.
> >
> > Step two: when the *next* release hits EOL (and the release under
> > consideration has been EOL for approximately 6 months), move any
> > bugs still in NEEDINFO to a new closed resolution like CLOSED:EOL,
> > with a message similar to the current EOL note.
>
> So, all those bugs stay open on the EOL version until EOL+1?
>
> That seems poor to me. What do we do if someone clears needinfo and
> says: Yes, this still affects me, I am running EOL release. Please fix
> it.
>
> We cannot, the EOL release is closed, no more updates or support.
>
> How does leaving it open there help?
>
> > EOL wouldn't be visibile as an available status for bugzilla
> > users to select when closing a bug in the interface, so it does not
> > add to UI clutter, but also makes it easy for us to do reports
> > distinguishing between intentional and eol closure.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> > This gives a much longer timeframe where we're waiting for input,
> > so by the time we actually close, the release has been EOL for a
> > decent while (rather than now, at the "I just got around to
> > updating!" point).
> >
> > This does risk some false positives (negatives? whatever) where
> > NEEDINFO is cleared with "works for me" but the bug not closed, but
> > that seems like a less serious problem.
>
> Yeah, thats another issue with this... they would stick around in that
> case until the maintainer or someone came in and cleared them.
>
> > 2.  As #1, but with no new CLOSED:EOL resolution. Instead, use
> > WONTFIX or and add a ClosedEOL keyword automatically. This is uglier
> > than the above but requires no bugzilla change.
> >
> > 3.  As #1, but just leave bugs in NEEDINFO state forever.
> >
> > This would possibly require maintainers to update their searches /
> > filters to leave out NEEDINFO bugs, or at least NEEDINFO bugs
> > from older releases.
>
> It would also be misleading, IMHO.
>
> "Hey reporter, I need info to fix this"
>
> "Here you go, here's the info you wanted from my Fedora 7 machine,
> please provide update"
>
> kevin
>
> --

What do you all think about adding a note to bugs against Fedora N-1 when
Fedora N is released, ie:

"You filed this bug against Fedora 19, and Fedora 20 has recently been
released.  A new Fedora release includes a version update for many
packages, and your issue may have been resolved.  Please consider checking
to see if your issue persists in Fedora 20 and updating this ticket
accordingly.  Any bugs remaining open when support ends for Fedora 19,
shortly after the release of Fedora 21, unless the issue affects Fedora 20
or Fedora 21."

Not polished copy, obviously, but giving the reporter some more
warning/prodding can't hurt.

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Gsoc idea feedback and suggestions.

2014-02-06 Thread Vidhun Vinod
Hey,
This is Vidun. I would like to get involved in the Google Summer Of Code
program with Fedora. I have an idea in mind which I would like to suggest
and probably work on. The idea description as of now is too vague but I
hope it drives my point. I'm looking for suggestions and feedback from the
community so that I know it this kind of project fits into the scope of
Fedora GSOC.

The idea initially came up as a difficulty I faced when handling RTC(real
time communication) for web project to handle and push notifications,
alerts, messages etc. As from a lazy view point this can be easily
accomplished with polling but that does not make it real time and also RTC
with polling is at the expense of the client runner.

There are several third party business's like Pusher that solve this
problem by using their server for RTC but developers face the problem of
privacy when it comes to sensitive data and they set a cap for the number
of messages that can be pushed for a certain paid plan. As it can be
clearly seen that using this model is both expensive and error prone as it
is not in the control of the developers, so if the main server is down it
would result in unexpected behaviors in applications.

Some of the problems that developers face when implementing their own RTC
message pushing.
1. Most of the hosting companies do not support web-sockets. This is
troublesome for established companies to migrate host to support RTC.
2. Privacy issues.
3. Additional work load for developers. Developing web-socket apps is not
easy.

Successful implementation would solve the following problems.
1. Security for messages.
2. Developers can bootstrap this project and concentrate on the core
application.
3. Ability to alter working to suit the particular Application model.

I'm waiting for a green flag so that I can work on the detailed draft for
the application during my week end.

Regards,
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Re: "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

2014-02-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.02.2014 20:59, schrieb Paul Wouters:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>>> Regularly, we get tests failing because the VM does not boot within 60
>>> seconds, and seems to hang at:
>>>
>>> "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"
>>
>> here you go
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057811
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057618
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788#c2
>>
>> now idea how this systemd made it in F20/RHEL7-Beta1 and why it takes
>> that long to fix so pretty clear bugs nor why prelink is not banned
>> at all in the distribution
> 
> Note that my test systems have never had prelink installed (and I've
> done my best to get prelink banished forever over the years)

one of the issues *looks* like prelink related
that's why i listed more than one bugreport

> It does seem to point to systemd related issues, although the only user
> on these systems is root.

which is user 0
that is yours, an not only yours
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820

however, systemd in F20 and RHEL17 is the most broken release
after F15, F16-F19 where improvements, F20 in case of systemd
is a massive step backwards in case of stability and bugs

sadly, because the rest of F20 is really stable and clean


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788 is simply
*unacceptable*  because it was reported *long* before final
release, is more than 3 months old and reproduceable with
every single reboot/shutdown via ssh



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Re: "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

2014-02-06 Thread Paul Wouters

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:


Regularly, we get tests failing because the VM does not boot within 60
seconds, and seems to hang at:

"a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"


here you go

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057811
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057618
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788#c2

now idea how this systemd made it in F20/RHEL7-Beta1 and why it takes
that long to fix so pretty clear bugs nor why prelink is not banned
at all in the distribution


Note that my test systems have never had prelink installed (and I've
done my best to get prelink banished forever over the years)

It does seem to point to systemd related issues, although the only user
on these systems is root.

I'll try and boot with more verbosity and see what I can find out.

Thanks,

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Re: "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

2014-02-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.02.2014 20:43, schrieb Paul Wouters:
> 
> I'm using a minimal netinstall version of fedora20 for testing using
> KVM. We very often cycle these machines (once per test, we run hundreds
> of tests)
> 
> Regularly, we get tests failing because the VM does not boot within 60
> seconds, and seems to hang at:
> 
> "a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

here you go

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057811
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057618
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788#c2

now idea how this systemd made it in F20/RHEL7-Beta1 and why it takes
that long to fix so pretty clear bugs nor why prelink is not banned
at all in the distribution




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"a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

2014-02-06 Thread Paul Wouters


I'm using a minimal netinstall version of fedora20 for testing using
KVM. We very often cycle these machines (once per test, we run hundreds
of tests)

Regularly, we get tests failing because the VM does not boot within 60
seconds, and seems to hang at:

"a stop job is running for User Manager for 0"

The machine is still in single user mode, so I cannot get any more
information out of it. The message is rather useless, because it does
not tell me anything about the problem. Which job is still running? What
is it waiting for? What's a User Manager? Who is "0"?

I'm not even sure at what component we are looking for to report a bug :(

Does anyone have more information for me?

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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 04:00:17 -0500
Matthew Miller  wrote:

> I would like to see one of the following, in order of preference:
> 
> 1.  Step one: when a release hits EOL, move the bugs to NEEDINFO with
> a notice similar to the current one. (Essentially moving the
> current warning back a little bit.)
> 
> Step one point five: I believe pretty much anyone can clear the
> NEEDINFO flag.
> 
> Step two: when the *next* release hits EOL (and the release under
> consideration has been EOL for approximately 6 months), move any
> bugs still in NEEDINFO to a new closed resolution like CLOSED:EOL,
> with a message similar to the current EOL note.

So, all those bugs stay open on the EOL version until EOL+1?

That seems poor to me. What do we do if someone clears needinfo and
says: Yes, this still affects me, I am running EOL release. Please fix
it.

We cannot, the EOL release is closed, no more updates or support. 

How does leaving it open there help?

> EOL wouldn't be visibile as an available status for bugzilla
> users to select when closing a bug in the interface, so it does not
> add to UI clutter, but also makes it easy for us to do reports
> distinguishing between intentional and eol closure.

Is this possible?
 
> This gives a much longer timeframe where we're waiting for input,
> so by the time we actually close, the release has been EOL for a
> decent while (rather than now, at the "I just got around to
> updating!" point).
> 
> This does risk some false positives (negatives? whatever) where
> NEEDINFO is cleared with "works for me" but the bug not closed, but
> that seems like a less serious problem.

Yeah, thats another issue with this... they would stick around in that
case until the maintainer or someone came in and cleared them. 
 
> 2.  As #1, but with no new CLOSED:EOL resolution. Instead, use
> WONTFIX or and add a ClosedEOL keyword automatically. This is uglier
> than the above but requires no bugzilla change.
> 
> 3.  As #1, but just leave bugs in NEEDINFO state forever.
> 
> This would possibly require maintainers to update their searches /
> filters to leave out NEEDINFO bugs, or at least NEEDINFO bugs
> from older releases.

It would also be misleading, IMHO. 

"Hey reporter, I need info to fix this" 

"Here you go, here's the info you wanted from my Fedora 7 machine,
please provide update" 

kevin


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Re: New UEFI guide on the wiki

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Murphy

On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski  wrote:

> On 05/02/14 05:46 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>> On 02/04/2014 06:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> And then we can definitely justify making them bigger. 550MB, or even 1GB. 
>>> It's neutral to plus
>>> for performance for either HDDs or SSDs (faux short stroked in the former, 
>>> and overprovisioned for
>>> the latter). Does anyone know why the convention is to create the ESP as 
>>> the first partition?
>> At times in the past there was a race between BIOS support for large disks 
>> and hard disk size, and
>> BIOS boot code could not reach the far sectors of the disk. This even leaked 
>> into Linux sometimes,

Right but BIOS only ever expected to have to read LBA 0, so it stands to reason 
someone's not testing whether it can jump beyond LBA 28-bit addressing if it's 
an ancient BIOS implementation; or beyond the MBR 32-bit address limit.

But since the UEFI spec is predicated on LBA 48-bit addressing, I think my 
diplomatic language would be "WTF vendor" if UEFI firmware face planted on an 
ESP at the end of a 5TB drive. I should test it. 

Oh hey, it works with whatever UEFI VirtualBox uses. This is the layout. 
Firmware finds shim.efi way out well beyond 3TB, and GRUB is finding its 
grub.cfg way out there as well and boots the system fine.

Disk /dev/sda: 1024000 sectors, 4.8 TiB
[…]
Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
   1 10238871552 1023966   551.0 MiB   EF00  EFI System
   22048 1026047   500.0 MiB   0700  
   3 1026048 10238871551   4.8 TiB 0700  




> It still happens: I just had a case of this on Dell R620 (Ivy Bridge Xeon) 
> with over 3TB disk space and RHEL 6.5... Grub couldn't reach it's files to 
> boot OS.

RHEL 6.5 uses ancient GRUB 0.97 so the problem could be with the boot loader, 
or the firmware.

However, without having this computer physical present, how can you tell it 
uses UEFI and not BIOS? I certainly can't. Dell's spec sheet for it says in 
part "From bezel to BIOS to packaging" which seems like just a tagline, not a 
spec per se. But then the support page explicitly refers to it as BIOS:

Dell Server BIOS PowerEdge R620 Version 2.1.3
http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/Product/poweredge-r620?driverId=T2RVC&osCode=WS8R2&fileId=3329675946&languageCode=en&categoryId=BI

In general, finding out whether a system's firmware is BIOS or UEFI is not 
easy. Either they don't say, as if it isn't a selling point, yet telling me it 
uses the, e.g. Intel C600 chipset isn't too obscure. HP pretty much universally 
refers to the UEFI firmware updates as BIOS updates. Idiotic.


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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 04:00 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:

> Additionally, but requiring some development, we could add some heuristics
> like: don't autoclose bugs with many incoming duplicate pointers, or
> possibly (as David suggests) bugs with comments, or bugs which have been
> reopened, or (here I get handwavy).

Your whole proposal more or less *is* the heuristic 'don't autoclose
bugs with comments', because of how needinfo works in RH bugzilla. It's
not a status (as you imply by writing NEEDINFO) but a flag. If you set
the needinfo flag not against a specific person but against 'anyone',
then by default, the next person who posts a comment of any kind will
clear the flag - they have to uncheck a little box if they want to *not*
clear the flag.

I still don't actually think it's a bad proposal, just wanted to be sure
the implications of using the needinfo flag were clear :)
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Adjust wiki for ARM BeagleBone Black

2014-02-06 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
Hey guys,

   I adjusted this documentation in wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#For_the_BeagleBone_Black

   Added this important step to create image of Fedora 20 for BeagleBone
Black board.

Best Regards

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Re: change Selinux context in %post?

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:

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> On 02/06/2014 02:39 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/05/2014 08:24 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are there official guidelines on how to handle selinux contexts in
> >>> packaging? I can still only find the draft which seems way more
> >>> complicated than necessary for my needs.
> >>>
> >>> I'm working on a package that uses mongodb internally (runs it's own
> >>> instance). Selinux is complaining because it has mongodb creating the
> >>> database (and logs) outside of the normal locations
> You need to tell SELinux about the labels.
>
> semanage fcontext -e /var/lib/mysql PATHTO/mysql
> restorecon -R -v PATHTO/mysql
>
> Is probably what you want.


Ok, I ended up getting to the same place using "-a mongod_var_lib_t"... Now
how to turn that into a policy I can package?

I ended up with this as the requirements to create a functional package:

/var/lib/unifi/logs(/.*)?system_u:object_r:mongod_var_lib_t:s0
/var/lib/unifi/data(/.*)?system_u:object_r:mongod_var_lib_t:s0
portcon tcp 27117 system_u:object_r:mongod_port_t:s0

Thanks,
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Re: change Selinux context in %post?

2014-02-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 02/06/2014 02:39 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý  wrote:
> 
>> On 02/05/2014 08:24 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>> 
>>> Are there official guidelines on how to handle selinux contexts in 
>>> packaging? I can still only find the draft which seems way more
>>> complicated than necessary for my needs.
>>> 
>>> I'm working on a package that uses mongodb internally (runs it's own 
>>> instance). Selinux is complaining because it has mongodb creating the
>>> database (and logs) outside of the normal locations
You need to tell SELinux about the labels.

semanage fcontext -e /var/lib/mysql PATHTO/mysql
restorecon -R -v PATHTO/mysql

Is probably what you want.

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Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-06 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:11 AM, H. Guémar wrote:

> I'm not fond of keeping spins around when we're focusing on products.
> That gives the message that they are second-class citizens in Fedora.
>

In my view, this not supposed to be a discussion about numbering classes /
keeping score.

Rather, I view spins and products as _substantially_ different: spins are
more or less focused on providing upstream software (perhaps with fixed
bugs, or with good curation); products are much more focused on doing extra
new work to integrate, work that doesn't have any non-Fedora upstream.  So,
saying that every spin is/should be a product-in-making doesn't match with
the way I think about this.

Note that this distinction does not automatically imply anything as to
visibility, promotion, or being release blocking: We could easily promote a
specific spin _more_ than a specific product (say, promote Fedora Audio
Product, Fedora Rails 4 spin, Fedora Cloud Product, Fedora KDE spin, Fedora
Desktop, Fedora Server - the order is obviously nonsense but you get the
idea).
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dnf-0.4.13

2014-02-06 Thread Ales Kozumplik

Hello,

dnf-0.4.13 is out [1], [2]. F20 version will follow shortly. We ship 
Delta RPM support, bash completion and keepcache again in this version.


Remember to come meet the team at DevConf.cz this weekend.

Ales

[1] http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/02/06/dnf-0-4-13-released/
[2] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id24
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Re: Upgrade ICU to 52.1 with soname bump

2014-02-06 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi,

On Saturday, 2014-01-25 09:47:28 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> > If time permits I'd like to do an upgrade of ICU to 52.1 next week,
> > which leads to the usual soname bump.
> > 
> > As quite a lot of packages are affected by this, is anyone objecting
> > and can point out a better time for the upgrade?

I was carried away with LibreOffice release and then FOSDEM, so this got
postponed.

> Hum... perhaps I am missing something, but I don't see anything that is
> directly affected. There's no packages that buildrequire or require icu?
> Or am I looking at the wrong package?
> 
> I guess you mean libicu?

Yes, sure, with ICU I referred the entire suite, the important part here
being libicu and all its libs.

> Are there any changes in the 50->52.1 jump that would need
> patches/changes? Or should it just mostly be a rebuild?

Should be a rebuild only.

> Do you have any provenpackager(s) who can help you rebuild things?

Maybe, but he's already overloaded ;)

> > If not, I'll probably announce it on Monday and do the upgrade on
> > Wednesday.
> 
> Seems fine.

So maybe next week..

  Eike

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Re: change Selinux context in %post?

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý  wrote:

> On 02/05/2014 08:24 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>> Are there official guidelines on how to handle selinux contexts in
>> packaging? I can still only find the draft which
>> seems way more complicated than necessary for my needs.
>>
>> I'm working on a package that uses mongodb internally (runs it's own
>> instance). Selinux is complaining because it has
>> mongodb creating the database (and logs) outside of the normal locations.
>>
>> I think I can fix this with a "chcon -t mongod_var_lib_t
>> %{_sharedstatedir}/db/location" and "chcon -t mongod_log_t
>> /log/path" or something like that.
>>
>> Is it a good idea to do this in %post?
>>
>
> I do not think there is general guideline.
>
> As other suggested - it is bad idea to call chcon explicitly. You should
> rather write your own selinux policy (it is not that hard, really) and call
> restorecon or fixfiles.
>

Got it.



> You should not call it in %post because selinux policy can be loaded after
> your %post. The story about this is little bit longer and boring. The
> conclusion is - do that in %posttrans.
>

Ok, good to know.



> You can get some inspiration e.g. in:
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/copr.git/tree/copr.spec
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/copr.git/tree/selinux


Thanks!

I've gotten this far on my own. I used semanage and some google-fu to come
up with this that seems to fix the problem. I'm not sure if there's a
better way (i.e. a more "least privilege" route) but I have the following
in file_contexts.local:

/var/lib/unifi/logs(/.*)?system_u:object_r:mongod_var_lib_t:s0
/var/lib/unifi/data(/.*)?system_u:object_r:mongod_var_lib_t:s0

And the port problem in ports.local:

portcon tcp 27117 system_u:object_r:mongod_port_t:s0

Now, how to turn that into a policy file...

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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > 2.  As #1, but with no new CLOSED:EOL resolution. Instead, use WONTFIX
> > or and add a ClosedEOL keyword automatically. This is uglier than
> > the above but requires no bugzilla change.
> I'm not sure adding a new EOL status would be ok for Bugzilla guys, as far
> as I know, there were some efforts to cut down BZ statuses (ON_DEV for
> example), even it would be hidden. So keyword looks like much more easier
> solution.

I think it depends on the reasons for cutting down on statuses (or in this
case, resolutions). If it's for performance reasons or some other practical
concern, okay. But if it's because the plethora of options is confusing to
users, I think hiding it from the UI should be okay. We could ask.

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Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:21:53PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Where is the human to notice "comments after EOL" and act accordingly?

Theeeoretically, the package maintainer.

In the prototypical version of this back in the ancient days, I actually
put myself on the CC list of all of the closed bugs. But there are several
times more bugs than there used to be, and I think that would consume a
whole full-time person at least for a while.

> How many tickets would be affected by a "comment after EOL"?

It's kind of hard to construct the exact search because the Fedora EOL
script takes some time to run, and I don't think bugzilla allows anything
like "comment from not $GIVENUSER after comment from $GIVENUSER". If anyone
does know how to do that, help wanted. :)


> I've posted about it in 2008 already, and I still think the auto-closing
> leads to hiding crap under the carpet.

I think it's acknowledgement that we don't have resources to fix all of the
crap. But I'd like if we could better identify the important cases where we
actually *should* make sure issues are addressed, while finding the right
balance between maintainer and user/reported burdens.

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Re: proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 02:50:59PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > The problem is that no-one seems to come up with an alternative that's
> > any better. Leaving bugs on EOL versions open to rot away and be ignored
> > is no use. We *could* give everyone privs to re-open closed bugs, I
> > guess, and I personally don't think that would end terribly, but it's
> > kind of a radical plan.
> 
> I would like to see one of the following, in order of preference:
> 
> 1.  Step one: when a release hits EOL, move the bugs to NEEDINFO with
> a notice similar to the current one. (Essentially moving the current
> warning back a little bit.)
> 
> Step one point five: I believe pretty much anyone can clear the NEEDINFO
> flag.
> 
> Step two: when the *next* release hits EOL (and the release under
> consideration has been EOL for approximately 6 months), move any bugs
> still in NEEDINFO to a new closed resolution like CLOSED:EOL, with a
> message similar to the current EOL note.
> 
> EOL wouldn't be visibile as an available status for bugzilla users to
> select when closing a bug in the interface, so it does not add to UI
> clutter, but also makes it easy for us to do reports distinguishing
> between intentional and eol closure.
> 
> This gives a much longer timeframe where we're waiting for input, so by
> the time we actually close, the release has been EOL for a decent while
> (rather than now, at the "I just got around to updating!" point).
> 
> This does risk some false positives (negatives? whatever) where NEEDINFO
> is cleared with "works for me" but the bug not closed, but that seems
> like a less serious problem.
> 
> 2.  As #1, but with no new CLOSED:EOL resolution. Instead, use WONTFIX or
> and add a ClosedEOL keyword automatically. This is uglier than the above
> but requires no bugzilla change.

I'm not sure adding a new EOL status would be ok for Bugzilla guys, as far
as I know, there were some efforts to cut down BZ statuses (ON_DEV for
example), even it would be hidden. So keyword looks like much more easier
solution.
   
Jaroslav

> 3.  As #1, but just leave bugs in NEEDINFO state forever.
> 
> This would possibly require maintainers to update their searches /
> filters to leave out NEEDINFO bugs, or at least NEEDINFO bugs from older
> releases.
> 
> 
> Any of these seem pretty easy and I think would improve the situation for
> users and bug reporters without badly increasing maintainer burden or being
> dishonest about our ability to fix all the things.
> 
> Additionally, but requiring some development, we could add some heuristics
> like: don't autoclose bugs with many incoming duplicate pointers, or
> possibly (as David suggests) bugs with comments, or bugs which have been
> reopened, or (here I get handwavy).
> 
> 
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Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
> Like this:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959071
> 
> I specifically followed up to say the issue continues in Fedora 19,
> and nothing changed. The bug tracker should not expire bugs if there's
> been a comment after the EOL warning.

The bug bot is really very dumb [1] and rewrite is planned. So far it
takes a list of bugs based on search query in CSV and runs bug after 
bug calls. So there's no way to check for messages. Also when I took 
look on some bugs it closed, there was one with two comments - it's
fixed, it's not and to be honest, I was thinking about what to do with
these. So I'm sorry for the bug closed, the new EOL closure message now
contains wording that should avoid that "not everyone is allowed to
reopen bugs", we should do the same for EOL warning version change.

Jaroslav

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Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:50:59 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 22:48 +, Colin Macdonald wrote:
> > On 05/02/14 22:42, David Timothy Strauss wrote:
> > > This is also not the first time this has happened to me.
> > 
> > I'll chime in: when I first switched to Fedora (F14/15 era), I found 
> > this quite obnoxious, enough that I remember it.
> > 
> > So there is also an issue of being a welcoming community to newcomers.
> 
> The problem is that no-one seems to come up with an alternative that's
> any better. Leaving bugs on EOL versions open to rot away and be ignored
> is no use. We *could* give everyone privs to re-open closed bugs, I
> guess, and I personally don't think that would end terribly, but it's
> kind of a radical plan.
> 
> The idea of not closing bugs that have comments after the EOL
> notification doesn't necessarily make things better, I don't think; we'd
> just have errors in the other direction. Say someone dropped a note 'oh
> yeah, this is working now!' - it would be silly not to close the bug,
> right?

Has that been tried before? It sounds like a better approach.

Where is the human to notice "comments after EOL" and act accordingly?
How many tickets would be affected by a "comment after EOL"?

What is the underlying problem here anyway?
Too many unhandled tickets -> EOL auto-close threatening -> too many
closed tickets to handle -> how to escape from that loop?

In several large upstream bug trackers it is no different. Are developers
always informed about what doesn't work even when not responding to
tickets? Why should users still take the time to submit problem reports
if they don't get a response?

> algorithms are never perfect, but we do have to use them, as a
> perennially under-resourced project.

I've posted about it in 2008 already, and I still think the auto-closing
leads to hiding crap under the carpet.
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proposal for changes to auto-expiring bugs

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 02:50:59PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> The problem is that no-one seems to come up with an alternative that's
> any better. Leaving bugs on EOL versions open to rot away and be ignored
> is no use. We *could* give everyone privs to re-open closed bugs, I
> guess, and I personally don't think that would end terribly, but it's
> kind of a radical plan.

I would like to see one of the following, in order of preference:

1.  Step one: when a release hits EOL, move the bugs to NEEDINFO with
a notice similar to the current one. (Essentially moving the current
warning back a little bit.)

Step one point five: I believe pretty much anyone can clear the NEEDINFO
flag.

Step two: when the *next* release hits EOL (and the release under
consideration has been EOL for approximately 6 months), move any bugs
still in NEEDINFO to a new closed resolution like CLOSED:EOL, with a
message similar to the current EOL note.

EOL wouldn't be visibile as an available status for bugzilla users to
select when closing a bug in the interface, so it does not add to UI
clutter, but also makes it easy for us to do reports distinguishing
between intentional and eol closure.

This gives a much longer timeframe where we're waiting for input, so by
the time we actually close, the release has been EOL for a decent while
(rather than now, at the "I just got around to updating!" point).

This does risk some false positives (negatives? whatever) where NEEDINFO
is cleared with "works for me" but the bug not closed, but that seems
like a less serious problem.

2.  As #1, but with no new CLOSED:EOL resolution. Instead, use WONTFIX or
and add a ClosedEOL keyword automatically. This is uglier than the above
but requires no bugzilla change.

3.  As #1, but just leave bugs in NEEDINFO state forever.

This would possibly require maintainers to update their searches /
filters to leave out NEEDINFO bugs, or at least NEEDINFO bugs from older
releases.


Any of these seem pretty easy and I think would improve the situation for
users and bug reporters without badly increasing maintainer burden or being
dishonest about our ability to fix all the things.

Additionally, but requiring some development, we could add some heuristics
like: don't autoclose bugs with many incoming duplicate pointers, or
possibly (as David suggests) bugs with comments, or bugs which have been
reopened, or (here I get handwavy).


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Re: change Selinux context in %post?

2014-02-06 Thread Miroslav Suchý

On 02/05/2014 08:24 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

Are there official guidelines on how to handle selinux contexts in packaging? I 
can still only find the draft which
seems way more complicated than necessary for my needs.

I'm working on a package that uses mongodb internally (runs it's own instance). 
Selinux is complaining because it has
mongodb creating the database (and logs) outside of the normal locations.

I think I can fix this with a "chcon -t mongod_var_lib_t 
%{_sharedstatedir}/db/location" and "chcon -t mongod_log_t
/log/path" or something like that.

Is it a good idea to do this in %post?


I do not think there is general guideline.

As other suggested - it is bad idea to call chcon explicitly. You should rather write your own selinux policy (it is not 
that hard, really) and call restorecon or fixfiles.


You should not call it in %post because selinux policy can be loaded after your %post. The story about this is little 
bit longer and boring. The conclusion is - do that in %posttrans.


You can get some inspiration e.g. in:
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/copr.git/tree/copr.spec
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/copr.git/tree/selinux


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Re: different version of packages in testing and rawhide

2014-02-06 Thread Carlos Morel-Riquelme
thank so much adam :)


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 05:03 -0300, Carlos Morel-Riquelme wrote:
> > Hi guys i have running rawhide in my laptop and is update , all work
> > fine for me
> > but i don't understand why update-testing have different version of
> > packages in comparison with rawhide
> >
> > example the following builds have been pushed to Fedora 20
> > updates-testing
> >
> >  NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-29.git20140131.fc20
> >  abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-3.fc20
> >
> > now the packages version of rawhide are
> >
> > NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-27.git20140131.fc21.x86_64
> >
> > abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-1.fc21.x86_64
> >
> > i'm confused
>
> These are errors on the parts of the packagers, basically. They are
> supposed to ensure that builds for newer releases are always versioned
> higher than builds for older releases (even if it's not really
> 'necessary' in the flow of how they've done the builds).
>
> So, if there isn't a bug filed on each one already, go ahead and file
> one :)
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Re: different version of packages in testing and rawhide

2014-02-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 05:03 -0300, Carlos Morel-Riquelme wrote:
> Hi guys i have running rawhide in my laptop and is update , all work
> fine for me
> but i don't understand why update-testing have different version of
> packages in comparison with rawhide
> 
> example the following builds have been pushed to Fedora 20
> updates-testing
> 
>  NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-29.git20140131.fc20
>  abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-3.fc20
> 
> now the packages version of rawhide are 
> 
> NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-27.git20140131.fc21.x86_64
> 
> abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-1.fc21.x86_64
> 
> i'm confused

These are errors on the parts of the packagers, basically. They are
supposed to ensure that builds for newer releases are always versioned
higher than builds for older releases (even if it's not really
'necessary' in the flow of how they've done the builds).

So, if there isn't a bug filed on each one already, go ahead and file
one :)
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Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 02:05:06PM -0800, David Timothy Strauss wrote:
> > You just need to change the Version tag.
> That is not something I appear to have access to do. And, if I don't,
> very few people do.

The person who *reported* the bug can (although there possibly may be some
cases where that doesn't work, I can't find any)

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different version of packages in testing and rawhide

2014-02-06 Thread Carlos Morel-Riquelme
Hi guys i have running rawhide in my laptop and is update , all work fine
for me
but i don't understand why update-testing have different version of
packages in comparison with rawhide

example the following builds have been pushed to Fedora 20 updates-testing

 NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-29.git20140131.fc20
 abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-3.fc20

now the packages version of rawhide are

NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-27.git20140131.fc21.x86_64
abrt-java-connector-1.0.8-1.fc21.x86_64

i'm confused
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Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 01:51:41PM -0800, David Timothy Strauss wrote:
> Like this:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959071
> I specifically followed up to say the issue continues in Fedora 19,
> and nothing changed. The bug tracker should not expire bugs if there's
> been a comment after the EOL warning.

See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198... but that didn't result in
me or anyone else really doing anything this time around. But I think it's
worthwhile to continue the conversation.

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