Re: Fedora 30 System-Wide Change proposal: Remove glibc-all-langpacks from buildroot

2018-09-03 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Hi Zbigniew, nice to meet you at Flock.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:30 AM Ben Cotton  wrote:

>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_glibc-langpacks-all_from_buildroot
>
> == Summary ==
> glibc-minimal-langpack is added to @Buildsystem group and installed
> into the minimal buildroot instead of glibc-all-langpacks. Packages
> which need more locales than plain C/C.UTF-8/POSIX need to pull them
> in through BuildRequires.
>

I think not installing  glibc-all-langpacks by default in the Koji
buildroot makes good sense but how about replacing it in the first instance
with glibc-langpack-en?

A quick grep over spec files reveals:
> ```
> $ rg -l 'LC_CTYPE=[^C]' *.spec | wc -l
> 11
> $ rg -l 'LC_ALL=[^C]' *.spec | wc -l
> 42
> ```
>

Also:
$ grep -l -e LANG=en *.spec | wc -l
99

Jens
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Fedora 29-20180903.n.0 compose check report

2018-09-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 9/132 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)

ID: 273823  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_replica
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273823
ID: 273833  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273833
ID: 273834  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273834
ID: 273848  Test: i386 Workstation-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273848
ID: 273859  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273859
ID: 273865  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273865
ID: 273868  Test: x86_64 AtomicHost-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273868
ID: 273884  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273884
ID: 273892  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273892
ID: 273894  Test: x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273894
ID: 273939  Test: x86_64 universal install_iscsi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273939
ID: 273958  Test: i386 universal install_package_set_kde
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273958

Soft failed openQA tests: 73/132 (x86_64), 18/24 (i386)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

ID: 273801  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273801
ID: 273802  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273802
ID: 273804  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273804
ID: 273805  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273805
ID: 273807  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273807
ID: 273808  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273808
ID: 273814  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273814
ID: 273816  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_basic
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273816
ID: 273817  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273817
ID: 273820  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_updates_nfs
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273820
ID: 273821  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_variation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273821
ID: 273827  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273827
ID: 273828  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273828
ID: 273829  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273829
ID: 273830  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273830
ID: 273831  Test: i386 Everything-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273831
ID: 273852  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273852
ID: 273864  Test: i386 KDE-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273864
ID: 273869  Test: x86_64 universal install_xfs
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273869
ID: 273870  Test: x86_64 universal install_lvmthin
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273870
ID: 273871  Test: x86_64 universal install_no_swap
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273871
ID: 273872  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_ext3
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273872
ID: 273873  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_btrfs
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273873
ID: 273874  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_no_swap
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273874
ID: 273875  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_xfs
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273875
ID: 273876  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_software_raid
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273876
ID: 273877  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_lvmthin
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273877
ID: 273878  Test: x86_64 universal install_simple_free_space@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273878
ID: 273879  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi_empty@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273879
ID: 273880  Test: x86

Fedora Rawhide-20180903.n.0 compose check report

2018-09-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 31/132 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)

New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180902.n.0):

ID: 273745  Test: i386 universal upgrade_2_desktop_32bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273745

Old failures (same test failed in Rawhide-20180902.n.0):

ID: 273600  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273600
ID: 273603  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273603
ID: 273621  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_replica
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273621
ID: 273628  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273628
ID: 273631  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273631
ID: 273632  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273632
ID: 273644  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273644
ID: 273645  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273645
ID: 273646  Test: i386 Workstation-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273646
ID: 273650  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273650
ID: 273657  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273657
ID: 273663  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273663
ID: 273666  Test: x86_64 AtomicHost-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273666
ID: 273676  Test: x86_64 universal install_simple_free_space@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273676
ID: 273677  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi_empty@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273677
ID: 273684  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273684
ID: 273686  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273686
ID: 273689  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_btrfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273689
ID: 273690  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273690
ID: 273691  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_xfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273691
ID: 273693  Test: x86_64 universal install_simple_encrypted@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273693
ID: 273696  Test: x86_64 universal install_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273696
ID: 273697  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_partial@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273697
ID: 273699  Test: x86_64 universal install_lvmthin@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273699
ID: 273709  Test: x86_64 universal install_btrfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273709
ID: 273710  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_ext3@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273710
ID: 273711  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273711
ID: 273712  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_lvmthin@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273712
ID: 273715  Test: x86_64 universal install_ext3@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273715
ID: 273716  Test: x86_64 universal install_xfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273716
ID: 273717  Test: x86_64 universal install_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273717
ID: 273731  Test: x86_64 universal install_sata@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273731
ID: 273733  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273733

Soft failed openQA tests: 7/132 (x86_64), 3/24 (i386)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

New soft failures (same test did not soft fail in Rawhide-20180902.n.0):

ID: 273649  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273649
ID: 273688  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273688
ID: 273702  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273702
ID: 273724  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273724
ID: 273725  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/273725
ID: 273735  Test: x86_64 u

Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Michael Adam
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 09:38:44PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
> > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Peter Robinson  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been
> overdue
> > > > > > and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I created builds for rawhide already.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this
> > > > > important
> > > > > > update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in
> > > through
> > > > > Bodhi?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the swift response!
> > > >
> > > > (And apologies for any cluelessness about newer aspects of the fedora
> > > > process - it's been a while since i did these things, and it worked a
> > > little
> > > > differently then...)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward
> compatible
> > > > > in terms of any interface people might use?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are a few config file additions.
> > > > The location of the binary has changed from /usr/sbin
> > > > to /usr/bin . Otherwise no Interfaces i'm aware of.
> > >
> > > You should create a compat symlink from the old location to the new
> > > location, at least in the stable releases, in case somebody calls the
> > > binary by path.
> > >
> >
> > Good point.
> >
> > - Is there an established way to create such a "compat symlink"?
>
> ln -s ../bin/NAME %{buildroot}/usr/sbin/NAME
>
> would be the standard way.
>
> > - What do you mean by "stable releases"?
> >   Does F29 (which is not released yet) qualify as that?
> I meant F28 and F27, but since this costs so little, I'd do the same
> for F29 too.
>

Hmm, ok. I guess it is not a problem at this point
if f29 thereby goes one build ahead of master.
If needed later, we can still bump master's release number..

Thanks - Michael


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Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 09:38:44PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
> zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Peter Robinson 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
> > > > > and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
> > > > >
> > > > > I created builds for rawhide already.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this
> > > > important
> > > > > update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in
> > through
> > > > Bodhi?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the swift response!
> > >
> > > (And apologies for any cluelessness about newer aspects of the fedora
> > > process - it's been a while since i did these things, and it worked a
> > little
> > > differently then...)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward compatible
> > > > in terms of any interface people might use?
> > >
> > >
> > > There are a few config file additions.
> > > The location of the binary has changed from /usr/sbin
> > > to /usr/bin . Otherwise no Interfaces i'm aware of.
> >
> > You should create a compat symlink from the old location to the new
> > location, at least in the stable releases, in case somebody calls the
> > binary by path.
> >
> 
> Good point.
> 
> - Is there an established way to create such a "compat symlink"?

ln -s ../bin/NAME %{buildroot}/usr/sbin/NAME

would be the standard way.

> - What do you mean by "stable releases"?
>   Does F29 (which is not released yet) qualify as that?
I meant F28 and F27, but since this costs so little, I'd do the same
for F29 too.

Zbyszek
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Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Michael Adam
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
> > > > and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
> > > >
> > > > I created builds for rawhide already.
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this
> > > important
> > > > update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
> > > >
> > > > If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in
> through
> > > Bodhi?
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the swift response!
> >
> > (And apologies for any cluelessness about newer aspects of the fedora
> > process - it's been a while since i did these things, and it worked a
> little
> > differently then...)
> >
> >
> > > Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward compatible
> > > in terms of any interface people might use?
> >
> >
> > There are a few config file additions.
> > The location of the binary has changed from /usr/sbin
> > to /usr/bin . Otherwise no Interfaces i'm aware of.
>
> You should create a compat symlink from the old location to the new
> location, at least in the stable releases, in case somebody calls the
> binary by path.
>

Good point.

- Is there an established way to create such a "compat symlink"?
- What do you mean by "stable releases"?
  Does F29 (which is not released yet) qualify as that?


> > > If so once it's baked in
> > > f29 for a bit, we're in freeze atm any so it won't progress from
> > > updates-testing -> stable until Beta gets signed off, you might want
> > > to consider pushing to stable releases too due to CVEs
> > >
> >
> > Ok, so can you or s/o confirm next steps:
> >
> > - bring it to the f29 scm
> > - build
> > - add it to bodhi and wait for a while
> > - possibly push to stable after some time
> >
> > correct?
> Yes, this looks correct.\
>

Thanks - Michael



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Fedora 29 compose report: 20180903.n.0 changes

2018-09-03 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20180902.n.0
NEW: Fedora-29-20180903.n.0

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Added packages:  0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   0
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  0 B
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

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Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

2018-09-03 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den mån 3 sep. 2018 kl 12:56 skrev Fabio Valentini :
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 09:13 Ron Yorston  wrote:
>>
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> >On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200
>> >> Andreas Tunek  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
>> >> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
>> >>
>> >> Whoa!  I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as
>> >> possible when I install it.  That's crazy!  Maybe someone wants to
>> >> imitate a Mac or something.
>> >
>> >It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on
>> >this list.
>>
>> Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these
>> changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation.
>>
>> Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every
>> other release will also receive notification.
>>
>> Ron
>
>
> Well, one might argue that users who really want to run pre-beta releases of 
> fedora are also expected to follow the discussions and announcements here.
> fedora 29 really isn't ready for end users yet (as witnessed by this thread) 
> - it's not even in beta after all - so if you don't (or can't) keep up with 
> the news and development discussions, you really shouldn't be running fedora 
> 29 yet IMO.
>
> I know that doesn't help rescue the borked systems, but running alpha-quality 
> code is bound to lead to problems, and users are expected to be able to deal 
> with them - otherwise they should stick to stable releases.
>
> Fabio
>

The thing is, if people do not test releases they will never be
stable. And even if I don't know how to access my F29 installation
from a chroot sometimes my testing is valuable to the project. Also, I
think that my testing has shown that a lack of root account and boot
menu has lead to a much worser user experience in certain cases.

/Andreas

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Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

2018-09-03 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den mån 3 sep. 2018 kl 14:07 skrev Hans de Goede :
>
> Hi,
>
> On 02-09-18 09:33, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> > Den lör 1 sep. 2018 kl 15:50 skrev stan :
> >>
> >> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:44:56 +0200
> >> Andreas Tunek  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can't get a commandline, everything seems stuck in the boot
> >>> process Is there anyway to get a commandline and update the system
> >>> when it is in this state?
> >>
> >> You could try getting to single user mode, putting a 1 after the boot
> >> line during boot by editing the menu entry before booting.  That should
> >> put you into the root account, where you can run a dnf update.
> >>
> >
> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
>
> The boot menu should show if the previous boot is considered
> unsuccessful I guess that you have left the gnome-initial-setup
> gnome-shell session sit around for more then 2 minutes and then
> the boot is considered successful if you press "ctrl + alt + F4"
> and then "ctrl + alt + del" as soon as you get the broken
> gnome-initial-setup screen, it should reboot into the menu
> (this worked for me when I hit the same issue).
>

F29 worked before this update so I have already done the gnome initial setup.

> If that fails you should be able to get the boot menu by one of:
>
> a) Keeping shift pressed during boot, note you typically need to
> press it a bit after the vendor logo / bios post shows otherwise
> it might not register
>
> b) Pressing Esc during boot (needs to be done at the right time,
> so press it repeatedly during boot)
>
> c) Pressing F8 during boot (needs to be done at the right time,
> so press it repeatedly during boot)
>

Will I be able to log in to the user account? And will I have network access?

> Regards,
>
> Hans
>
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Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
> > > and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
> > >
> > > I created builds for rawhide already.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this
> > important
> > > update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
> > >
> > > If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in through
> > Bodhi?
> >
> 
> Thanks for the swift response!
> 
> (And apologies for any cluelessness about newer aspects of the fedora
> process - it's been a while since i did these things, and it worked a little
> differently then...)
> 
> 
> > Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward compatible
> > in terms of any interface people might use?
> 
> 
> There are a few config file additions.
> The location of the binary has changed from /usr/sbin
> to /usr/bin . Otherwise no Interfaces i'm aware of.

You should create a compat symlink from the old location to the new
location, at least in the stable releases, in case somebody calls the
binary by path.

> > If so once it's baked in
> > f29 for a bit, we're in freeze atm any so it won't progress from
> > updates-testing -> stable until Beta gets signed off, you might want
> > to consider pushing to stable releases too due to CVEs
> >
> 
> Ok, so can you or s/o confirm next steps:
> 
> - bring it to the f29 scm
> - build
> - add it to bodhi and wait for a while
> - possibly push to stable after some time
> 
> correct?
Yes, this looks correct.

Zbyszek
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Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Michael Adam
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
> > and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
> >
> > I created builds for rawhide already.
> >
> > I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this
> important
> > update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
> >
> > If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in through
> Bodhi?
>

Thanks for the swift response!

(And apologies for any cluelessness about newer aspects of the fedora
process - it's been a while since i did these things, and it worked a little
differently then...)


> Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward compatible
> in terms of any interface people might use?


There are a few config file additions.
The location of the binary has changed from /usr/sbin
to /usr/bin . Otherwise no Interfaces i'm aware of.


> If so once it's baked in
> f29 for a bit, we're in freeze atm any so it won't progress from
> updates-testing -> stable until Beta gets signed off, you might want
> to consider pushing to stable releases too due to CVEs
>

Ok, so can you or s/o confirm next steps:

- bring it to the f29 scm
- build
- add it to bodhi and wait for a while
- possibly push to stable after some time

correct?

Thanks - Michael


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Re: upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:07 PM Michael Adam  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
> and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.
>
> I created builds for rawhide already.
>
> I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this important
> update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.
>
> If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in through Bodhi?

Sounds like a reasonable course of action. Is it backward compatible
in terms of any interface people might use? If so once it's baked in
f29 for a bit, we're in freeze atm any so it won't progress from
updates-testing -> stable until Beta gets signed off, you might want
to consider pushing to stable releases too due to CVEs
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upgrade tinyproxy for f29?

2018-09-03 Thread Michael Adam
Hi all,

Tinyproxy just released a new version 1.10 which is has been overdue
and containes 2 CVE fixes apart from several enhancements.

I created builds for rawhide already.

I was wondering if it is still possible to get tinyproxy to this important
update in f29, since no other packages depend on it, afaict.

If so, what do I do? Just update the scm branch and bring it in through
Bodhi?

Thanks - Michael
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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180903.n.0 changes

2018-09-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180902.n.0
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= ADDED IMAGES =

= DROPPED IMAGES =
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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Lubomír Sedlář
Neal Gompa píše v Po 03. 09. 2018 v 09:01 -0400:
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:02 AM Adam Samalik 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:57 PM Richard Shaw 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:32 AM Adam Samalik 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I thought that Arbitrary Branching (now referred to as Stream
> > > > Branching) was initially developed for Modularity only.
> > > > 
> > > > Were there any plans to use it for standalone packages as well?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you for bringing this up... I re-read the Wiki including
> > > the Factory2 link and I'm still confused. I like the idea at a
> > > high level but I still don't understand how to use it.
> > > 
> > > One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has
> > > a very disciplined upstream that's careful about not making
> > > API/ABI breaking changes within a minor release. I would like to
> > > get branches for each minor release that's currently supported,
> > > 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for F27 and 1.5 for EPEL.
> > > 
> > > Like I said, at a high level it makes since, but I still don't
> > > understand exactly how to do it or if the process/tools are
> > > mature enough to actually use yet.
> > 
> > 
> > The original idea was to use it for modules [1]. You would
> > reference the branches in your module definition [2].
> > 
> 
> There's no particular reason it couldn't be used for regular
> packages. The only reason it's not done is because of convention.
> It's certainly workable, but as fedpkg doesn't yet support that
> workflow, it's a bit more manual.

Well, this should be fedpkg 1.35 (in updates-testing now):

https://pagure.io/fedpkg/c/bcbb337e5076f8edad332067a64b7d4e6da279b6?branch=master
Basically: create a config file in the repo and then fedpkg build
should be able to submit builds for multiple versions of Fedora.

https://docs.pagure.org/fedpkg/releases/1.35.html#submit-builds-from-stream-branch


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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 09/02/2018 05:51 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is it possible to build packages like foo0.6 from dist-git repo with name
> foo and not foo0.6?
> 
> Since in Rust ecosystem from time to time we need to build multiple
> versions of a same package, it is much easier if it would be one repo with
> branches 0.6, 0.7 instead of multiple separate git repos.
> 
> If not, what are the limitations?

There are no technical limitations for building packages like that in
Koji, but you won't be able to tag them unless %{name} is added to
appropriate tag.

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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Adam Samalik
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:02 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:02 AM Adam Samalik  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:57 PM Richard Shaw 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:32 AM Adam Samalik 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I thought that Arbitrary Branching (now referred to as Stream
> Branching) was initially developed for Modularity only.
> >>>
> >>> Were there any plans to use it for standalone packages as well?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for bringing this up... I re-read the Wiki including the
> Factory2 link and I'm still confused. I like the idea at a high level but I
> still don't understand how to use it.
> >>
> >> One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has a very
> disciplined upstream that's careful about not making API/ABI breaking
> changes within a minor release. I would like to get branches for each minor
> release that's currently supported, 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for
> F27 and 1.5 for EPEL.
> >>
> >> Like I said, at a high level it makes since, but I still don't
> understand exactly how to do it or if the process/tools are mature enough
> to actually use yet.
> >
> >
> > The original idea was to use it for modules [1]. You would reference the
> branches in your module definition [2].
> >
>
> There's no particular reason it couldn't be used for regular packages.
> The only reason it's not done is because of convention. It's certainly
> workable, but as fedpkg doesn't yet support that workflow, it's a bit
> more manual.
>

Ah, please don't take me wrong, I'm not opposing that. Just hinting why the
wiki page might look confusing.

I think I saw a way to submit a traditional RPM build from a different
branch by specifying the target manually.


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Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

2018-09-03 Thread Adam Samalik
This is a summary of a recent thread [1].

Traditional branches (such as "f29") have their EOL (end of life) encoded
in the name. But what about stream branches [2] (such as "2.4" or "latest")?

Stream branches of RPM packages would always have an EOL associated with
them. The format would be on of the following:
a) A date — mostly tied to an upstream version and its EOL.
b) A specific Fedora release — for release-specific packages.
c) Forever — rolling forward with upstream, latest development versions,
etc.

Module streams would inherit their EOL from the packages they include — the
earliest EOL would win. This could be optionally overridden on the module
stream level by specifying one of the following:
a) A date.
b) A specific Fedora release.

There would be a policy that a module can reach its EOL in the middle of a
Fedora release to prevent madness.

We need a way to specify the EOL value and to manage it over time, because
it might change. For RPM stream branches, there is currently a way to
specify an EOL value when requesting the branch [3] — the actual format
might change based on this discussion. However, I'm not aware of a way to
change the value if necessary nor a process associated with that. Also,
there is currently no way to specify an EOL for modules.

After we figure this out, we also need to make sure the build system takes
that into account (some recent progress [4]) and that the client tooling
(mostly DNF) presents that to the user.

So... any comments to the concept? Any ideas about workflows or processes
of managing the EOL values?


[1] Previous thread:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/K4FUOQHQSRAAI3PUUGXAC6CXEN27Y2JH/
[2] Now "stream branches", formerly "arbitrary branches":
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ArbitraryBranching
[3] Requesting a stream branch + specifying its EOL:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/adding-new-modules/#_repositories_and_stream_branches_existing_packages
[4] https://pagure.io/modularity/issue/102

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New policy for orphaning/retiring packages with open security bugs

2018-09-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
FESCo accepted [1] a new policy to handle packages with long-standing
known security bugs in a way similar to FTBFS bugs:

  AGREED: If a CRITICAL or IMPORTANT security issue is currently open
  against a package, or a security issue of lower severity has been
  open for at least 6 months, four weeks before the branch point a
  procedure similar to long-standing FTBFS will be triggered
  immediately, with 8 weeks of weekly notifications to maintainers and
  subsequent orphaning and then subsequent removal from distribution.
  This applies to all packages, not just leaf.

This policy will apply to F30 and later. The branch point is on
2019/02/19, so somewhere around January 22 the procedure should start
with notifications being sent out. Maintainers are of course encouraged
to fix any security issues immediately. See [2] for a list of currently
open security bugs.

[1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935#comment-528180
[2] 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&keywords=SecurityTracking%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=9337195&order=changeddate%2Cpriority%2Cbug_id&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced

Zbyszek,
on behalf of FESCo
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Re: Intent to retire or orphan keybinder - python2 version

2018-09-03 Thread Leigh Scott
The rpath/libtool issue is fixed

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-4ddd5fcd1f
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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:02 AM Adam Samalik  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:57 PM Richard Shaw  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:32 AM Adam Samalik  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought that Arbitrary Branching (now referred to as Stream Branching) 
>>> was initially developed for Modularity only.
>>>
>>> Were there any plans to use it for standalone packages as well?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this up... I re-read the Wiki including the Factory2 
>> link and I'm still confused. I like the idea at a high level but I still 
>> don't understand how to use it.
>>
>> One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has a very 
>> disciplined upstream that's careful about not making API/ABI breaking 
>> changes within a minor release. I would like to get branches for each minor 
>> release that's currently supported, 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for F27 
>> and 1.5 for EPEL.
>>
>> Like I said, at a high level it makes since, but I still don't understand 
>> exactly how to do it or if the process/tools are mature enough to actually 
>> use yet.
>
>
> The original idea was to use it for modules [1]. You would reference the 
> branches in your module definition [2].
>

There's no particular reason it couldn't be used for regular packages.
The only reason it's not done is because of convention. It's certainly
workable, but as fedpkg doesn't yet support that workflow, it's a bit
more manual.



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libevent License tags corrected

2018-09-03 Thread Ondřej Lysoněk
Hi,

I reviewed the licensing of libevent and found the License tags to be
incorrect.

The License tag of libevent was changed from "BSD" to "BSD and ISC". The
License tag of libevent-doc was changed from "BSD" to "BSD and MIT".

Best regards
Ondřej Lysoněk
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Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

2018-09-03 Thread Hans de Goede

Hi,

On 02-09-18 09:33, Andreas Tunek wrote:

Den lör 1 sep. 2018 kl 15:50 skrev stan :


On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:44:56 +0200
Andreas Tunek  wrote:


I can't get a commandline, everything seems stuck in the boot
process Is there anyway to get a commandline and update the system
when it is in this state?


You could try getting to single user mode, putting a 1 after the boot
line during boot by editing the menu entry before booting.  That should
put you into the root account, where you can run a dnf update.



There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.


The boot menu should show if the previous boot is considered
unsuccessful I guess that you have left the gnome-initial-setup
gnome-shell session sit around for more then 2 minutes and then
the boot is considered successful if you press "ctrl + alt + F4"
and then "ctrl + alt + del" as soon as you get the broken
gnome-initial-setup screen, it should reboot into the menu
(this worked for me when I hit the same issue).

If that fails you should be able to get the boot menu by one of:

a) Keeping shift pressed during boot, note you typically need to
press it a bit after the vendor logo / bios post shows otherwise
it might not register

b) Pressing Esc during boot (needs to be done at the right time,
so press it repeatedly during boot)

c) Pressing F8 during boot (needs to be done at the right time,
so press it repeatedly during boot)

Regards,

Hans
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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Adam Samalik
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:57 PM Richard Shaw  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:32 AM Adam Samalik  wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought that Arbitrary Branching (now referred to as Stream Branching)
>> was initially developed for Modularity only.
>>
>> Were there any plans to use it for standalone packages as well?
>>
>
> Thank you for bringing this up... I re-read the Wiki including the
> Factory2 link and I'm still confused. I like the idea at a high level but I
> still don't understand how to use it.
>
> One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has a very
> disciplined upstream that's careful about not making API/ABI breaking
> changes within a minor release. I would like to get branches for each minor
> release that's currently supported, 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for
> F27 and 1.5 for EPEL.
>
> Like I said, at a high level it makes since, but I still don't understand
> exactly how to do it or if the process/tools are mature enough to actually
> use yet.
>

The original idea was to use it for modules [1]. You would reference the
branches in your module definition [2].

[1]
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/adding-new-modules/
[2]
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/defining-modules/


> Thanks,
> Richard
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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 6:56 AM Richard Shaw  wrote:

> One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has a very
> disciplined upstream that's careful about not making API/ABI breaking
> changes within a minor release. I would like to get branches for each minor
> release that's currently supported, 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for
> F27 and 1.5 for EPEL.
>

That was supposed to be 1.7 for F27... Need more coffee.
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Re: Building multiple version of a package from same dist-git repo

2018-09-03 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 1:32 AM Adam Samalik  wrote:

>
> I thought that Arbitrary Branching (now referred to as Stream Branching)
> was initially developed for Modularity only.
>
> Were there any plans to use it for standalone packages as well?
>

Thank you for bringing this up... I re-read the Wiki including the Factory2
link and I'm still confused. I like the idea at a high level but I still
don't understand how to use it.

One example is that I maintain the package OpenImageIO which has a very
disciplined upstream that's careful about not making API/ABI breaking
changes within a minor release. I would like to get branches for each minor
release that's currently supported, 1.8 for rawhide through F28, 1.8 for
F27 and 1.5 for EPEL.

Like I said, at a high level it makes since, but I still don't understand
exactly how to do it or if the process/tools are mature enough to actually
use yet.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

2018-09-03 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 09:13 Ron Yorston  wrote:

> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200
> >> Andreas Tunek  wrote:
> >>
> >> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
> >> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
> >>
> >> Whoa!  I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as
> >> possible when I install it.  That's crazy!  Maybe someone wants to
> >> imitate a Mac or something.
> >
> >It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on
> >this list.
>
> Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these
> changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation.
>
> Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every
> other release will also receive notification.
>
> Ron
>

Well, one might argue that users who really want to run pre-beta releases
of fedora are also expected to follow the discussions and announcements
here.
fedora 29 really isn't ready for end users yet (as witnessed by this
thread) - it's not even in beta after all - so if you don't (or can't) keep
up with the news and development discussions, you really shouldn't be
running fedora 29 yet IMO.

I know that doesn't help rescue the borked systems, but running
alpha-quality code is bound to lead to problems, and users are expected to
be able to deal with them - otherwise they should stick to stable releases.

Fabio

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Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

2018-09-03 Thread Ron Yorston
Adam Williamson wrote:
>On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200
>> Andreas Tunek  wrote:
>> 
>> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
>> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
>> 
>> Whoa!  I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as
>> possible when I install it.  That's crazy!  Maybe someone wants to
>> imitate a Mac or something.
>
>It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on
>this list.

Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these
changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation.

Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every
other release will also receive notification.

Ron
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Self introduction: Alain Vigne

2018-09-03 Thread Alain Vigne
 Hi everyone,
I am Alain, a French EE engineer using Fedora 28 and EDA open source tools,
for a long time now.

I am part of the pcb-rnd developer upstream
http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-rnd/
and was able to produce a .spec file + SRPM rpm file + COPR successful
builds:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/avigne/pcb-rnd/

Now, I am looking for a sponsor to officially get this package into Fedora.
I filled this BZ bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1581240

I volunteer to be the package maintainer, I have read the guidelines and
acknowledge responsibilities requested for such a task.
My FAS username is: avigne

This package could also be part of FEL (Fedora Electronic Lab) spin, to be
revived ? I am open to discussions about packaging latest versions of
EE/CAD open source tools.

Hoping for some positive feed-back...
Best regards
-- 
Alain V.
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