Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2024-05-20)

[Stephen Gallagher]

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# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: FESCO (2024-05-20)
!meetingname fesco
Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im,
@nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im,
@sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im,
@mhayden:fedora.im, @tstellar:fedora.im
!topic Init Process
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Meeting started by @sgallagh:fedora.im at 2024-05-20 19:00:09



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Exception request to ship prebuilt macOS binaries in
asahi-installer (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 19:11:58)
* AGREED: FESCo will permit the inclusion of binaries provided by
upstream Python and FFI exclusively for the purposes of loading the
installer on MacOS since we have no reasonable way to cross-compile
for that platform at this time. (+5, 0, -4) (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
20:01:08)
* TOPIC: Request exception to permit shipping pre-built, signed SGX
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 20:02:23)
* TOPIC: Next Week's Chair (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 20:52:32)
* ACTION: zbyszek to chair the 2024-05-27 meeting
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 20:53:42)
* TOPIC: Open Floor (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 20:53:48)

Meeting ended at 2024-05-20 20:57:16

Action items

* zbyszek to chair the 2024-05-27 meeting

People Present (lines said)
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* @sgallagh:fedora.im (90)
* @conan_kudo:matrix.org (80)
* @davide:cavalca.name (50)
* @berrange:matrix.org (32)
* @zbyszek:fedora.im (30)
* @tstellar:fedora.im (29)
* @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (24)
* @jistone:fedora.im (22)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (16)
* @dcantrell:fedora.im (8)
* @humaton:fedora.im (6)
* @farchord:matrix.org (4)
* @mhayden:fedora.im (3)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @blackwell:fedora.im (2)
* @jonathanspw:fedora.im (1)
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[František Šumšal]

Can confirm that the badge link now works as expected, thank you!

On 5/20/24 20:18, Aoife Moloney wrote:

So the wiki page error has been fixed, thanks for letting me know!


The badge error, I  have created the claim link and my interface says it's 
valid for 11 more days (set to 31st May). I've also sent it to Kevin who's 
helping me massively by looking into it on the backend and making sure it's 
still valid and it seems in working order. I've also added to every active 
ballot box, the same link, so at this point I am going to hope it will continue 
to work.


For folks who didn't get a badge, can you retry please? And if no success 
still, just email me directly and I will award you one through that way.


Thanks all,
Aoife




Aoife Moloney
Fedora Operations Architect

On Mon, May 20, 2024, 6:48 PM Sandro mailto:li...@penguinpee.nl>> wrote:

On 20-05-2024 19:42, Miro Hrončok wrote:
 > On 20. 05. 24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:
 >> Hi Folks,
 >>
 >> After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me
 >> to help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am
 >> pleased to say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in
 >> hope that they are! :crosses fingers:
 >> ...
 >> If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a
 >> claim link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has
 >> been updated and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email
 >> me directly and I will manually award this to you (I cant see who
 >> voted so I can't do this without knowing who to send it to).
 >
 > I'm afraid the badge claim link is expired now:
 >
 > """
 > 410 Gone
 > This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.
 >
 > That invitation is expired.
 > """

Yes, we are aware. What's not clear is how or why that has happened.

Either way, the link will be updated again soon. After that we'll know
better. An update will go out once the new link is active.

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[HEADS-UP] Upcoming Rust SIG mini-mass-rebuild

[Fabio Valentini]

Hi all,

As discussed in the Fedora Rust channel on Matrix, I am planning to do
a mini-mass-rebuild of all Rust applications (that are co-maintained
by the Rust SIG), likely by the end of this week. I estimate that it
will involve just shy of 200 packages per branch.

The motivation for a mini-mass-rebuild is two-fold:

1. Until very recently, the Rust standard library (shipped as a static
archive by the "rust" package) was accidentally shipped with stripped
debuginfo, which resulted in Rust applications that linked the
standard library to have incomplete debuginfo - and as a result, they
produced incomplete backtraces for any stack traces that involved the
Rust standard library. This has been fixed since rust 1.78, but
applications need to be rebuilt to pick up this improvement.

2. I regularly rebuild applications for "major" / "high priority"
security issues in Rust crates, but there are a few accumulated
"minor" / "low priority" security issues where I didn't yet have the
time to rebuild the affected applications against the library versions
that contain the necessary fixes. A mini-mass-rebuild would take care
of all of these at the same time.

I plan to only rebuild Rust applications that are associated with the
Rust SIG (i.e. packages "rust-*"), but no other packages (for example,
firefox, thunderbird, or librsvg2). If any maintainers of packages
that contain Rust code but that are not co-maintained by the Rust SIG
would like their packages to be included in the mini-mass-rebuild as
well, just let me know and I'll add them to my list.

Fabio

PS: Packages that build with vendored Rust dependencies (there are a
handful of them, and most are not co-maintained by the Rust SIG) would
only benefit from better debuginfo / backtraces, but not from security
updates (that would require manually updating the vendor tarball),
which is why I will not include them in the mini-mass-rebuild.
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Aoife Moloney]

So the wiki page error has been fixed, thanks for letting me know!


The badge error, I  have created the claim link and my interface says it's
valid for 11 more days (set to 31st May). I've also sent it to Kevin who's
helping me massively by looking into it on the backend and making sure it's
still valid and it seems in working order. I've also added to every active
ballot box, the same link, so at this point I am going to hope it will
continue to work.


For folks who didn't get a badge, can you retry please? And if no success
still, just email me directly and I will award you one through that way.


Thanks all,
Aoife




Aoife Moloney
Fedora Operations Architect

On Mon, May 20, 2024, 6:48 PM Sandro  wrote:

> On 20-05-2024 19:42, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 20. 05. 24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me
> >> to help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am
> >> pleased to say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in
> >> hope that they are! :crosses fingers:
> >> ...
> >> If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a
> >> claim link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has
> >> been updated and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email
> >> me directly and I will manually award this to you (I cant see who
> >> voted so I can't do this without knowing who to send it to).
> >
> > I'm afraid the badge claim link is expired now:
> >
> > """
> > 410 Gone
> > This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.
> >
> > That invitation is expired.
> > """
>
> Yes, we are aware. What's not clear is how or why that has happened.
>
> Either way, the link will be updated again soon. After that we'll know
> better. An update will go out once the new link is active.
>
> -- Sandro
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rpm-ostree, dnf and bootc in a bootable containers world

[Joseph Marrero]

Greetings!

With all the updates that have happened with Ostree Native Containers
and Atomic desktops, we wanted to share some initial thoughts on the
direction for evolving the user experience of image-based systems and
what that means for the packages and projects that provide the
foundation for this technology.

The main tool to manage packages and upgrades on ostree systems has
been rpm-ostree. With the introduction of OSTree Native Containers and
CoreOS layering (https://github.com/coreos/layering-examples),
rpm-ostree turned into a system that also managed container-native
image upgrades and deployments. This gave us an opportunity to
reconsider `dnf` for image-based systems, a tool that Fedora system
administrators are accustomed to manage the RPM packages and introduce
`bootc`, a new tool to boot containers and manage image-based Fedora
deployments.

Rough consensus was forming around these points:

On the short-term:

* dnf4 & dnf5 should provide a more helpful error when a user types
`dnf install` on a booted image-based system (pointing them to unlock
the system or use rpm-ostree).
* `bootc` (https://github.com/containers/bootc) is now available to
manage the container/image-based lifecyle on Fedora 39 and up hosts.
* No new major development should be done on rpm-ostree; we will
provide fixes and security updates but major development for
client-side features should be directed to `bootc` for container/image
lifecycle management and `dnf` for package management.
* dnf should be used during container builds of image-based Fedora for
most applications and examples.

Long term (Maybe Fedora 43/45 timeframe...):

* rpm-ostree client-side functionality handling package
layering/install/overrides should be folded into dnf.  (A *lot* of
details here)
* rpm-ostree will continue to be part of the ostree/ostree-container
base image composes. However this will be re-assessed after dnf has
become the default client-side tool for image-based Fedora systems.

As part of the UX we want dnf to continue to be the tool that
sysadmins see as the way to manage their RPM packages, even on
image-based systems. Some specific features of bootc to manage the
image lifecycle like `bootc upgrade` might be wrapped by `dnf upgrade`
on image mode systems, however we see bootc as the main tool to manage
the image-based hosts' deployments and we don't plan to hide this from
the customers behind dnf.

Our intent with the Fedora Change proposal is to cover the initial UX
changes, add bootc and  and re-introduce dnf on image-mode variants.
The new proposal builds on top of functionality added on these
previous enhancements:

* OstreeNativeContainer:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer
* OstreeNativeContainerStable:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable

If you would like to share feedback you can reach out to us via the
methods outlined at
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/bootc/community/ and you can
follow the new change proposal here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNFAndBootcInImageModeFedora

Signed off by:
- David Cantrell
- Jonathan Lebon
- Colin Walters
- Timothée Ravier
- Joseph Marrero
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 19:47, Sandro wrote:

On 20-05-2024 19:42, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 20. 05. 24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me 
to help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am 
pleased to say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in 
hope that they are! :crosses fingers:

...
If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a 
claim link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has 
been updated and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email 
me directly and I will manually award this to you (I cant see who 
voted so I can't do this without knowing who to send it to).


I'm afraid the badge claim link is expired now:

"""
410 Gone
This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.

That invitation is expired.
"""


Yes, we are aware. What's not clear is how or why that has happened.

Either way, the link will be updated again soon. After that we'll know 
better. An update will go out once the new link is active.
The link should be active again. It has not been replaced as previously 
suggested. Instead a very helpful and friendly admin helped us extend 
the lifetime of the original link.


Folks who were not be able to claim their badge can still go back to the 
voting app and claim it now. If that fails, please e-mail Aoife directly 
and she will award it to you manually.


Instead of calling it human error, let's call it Whit Monday interference...

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 19:42, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 20. 05. 24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me 
to help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am 
pleased to say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in 
hope that they are! :crosses fingers:

...
If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a 
claim link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has 
been updated and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email 
me directly and I will manually award this to you (I cant see who 
voted so I can't do this without knowing who to send it to).


I'm afraid the badge claim link is expired now:

"""
410 Gone
This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.

That invitation is expired.
"""


Yes, we are aware. What's not clear is how or why that has happened.

Either way, the link will be updated again soon. After that we'll know 
better. An update will go out once the new link is active.


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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 05. 24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me to help 
resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am pleased to say all 
issues have been resolved, or at least I live in hope that they are! :crosses 
fingers:

...
If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a claim link 
for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has been updated and you 
should be able to access it. If you can't, email me directly and I will 
manually award this to you (I cant see who voted so I can't do this without 
knowing who to send it to).


I'm afraid the badge claim link is expired now:

"""
410 Gone
This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.

That invitation is expired.
"""

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Re: New Fedora Planet

[Alexander Bokovoy]

On Пан, 20 мая 2024, Pedro Moura wrote:


How can I add more feeds? Under my account I had feeds to two Packit
blogs, one ABRT and my personal.


So far, users can only add just one feed. We didn't know the necessity of
having more than one because we didn't get too many answers in the
research about sub-planets.
If that is an issue, we need to ask for an update in noggin and
consequently fasjson.


Judging by
https://github.com/fedora-infra/freeipa-fas/blob/dev/ipaserver/plugins/baseruserfas.py#L118-L124,
the backend already supports multi-valued fasRssUrl attribute.
'fasrssurl*' is FreeIPA syntax for 'zero or many values'. Indeed,
LDAP 'fasRssUrl` attribute definition lacks SINGLE, so it will be a
multi-valued one.

Noggin has support for lists of values for an attribute and defaults to
a single value. This needs to be fixed for 'rss_url' field in Noggin's
user representation by adding an attr_types override similar to how
'sshpubkeys' and 'gpgkeys' overridden.

So the only visible change needed is probably a Noggin's attr_type
override. fasjson will need a Converter('fasRssURL', multivalued=True)
and that should be enough.

Overall, this looks like a two-line change across two projects.

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Security / Identity Management Engineering
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 17:43, František Šumšal wrote:
I was able to cast my vote in FESCO and Council elections, but the badge 
link for me returns:


410 Gone
This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.

That invitation is expired.


That sounds like Aoife didn't set an expiration date when creating the 
link. The default is two hours.


No worries. You'll get your badge. But we need to fix that link (again).

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[František Šumšal]

I was able to cast my vote in FESCO and Council elections, but the badge link 
for me returns:

410 Gone
This resource is no longer available. No forwarding address is given.

That invitation is expired.

On 5/20/24 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me to help 
resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am pleased to say all 
issues have been resolved, or at least I live in hope that they are! :crosses 
fingers:

If you have voted in either or both FESCo and EPEL elections today, please recast 
your votes in the new ballot boxes  as 
the previous ones are corrupted.

If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a claim link 
for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has been updated and you 
should be able to access it. If you can't, email me directly and I will 
manually award this to you (I cant see who voted so I can't do this without 
knowing who to send it to).

Voting will close at 23:59:59 UTC on 31st May 2024, an extra day has been added 
and the schedule will be updated accordingly.


Thank you again to @Sandro  @Miro Hrončok  
@Michal Konecny  @Aurelien Bompard  & 
@Tomas Hrcka  for your help, and to everyone for your patience and understanding 
while I sorted out the chaos that was this election voting opening day!


Please let me know if you find any other anomalies and after a short sob, I 
will fix them :)

Kindest regards,
Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:53 AM Aoife Moloney mailto:amolo...@redhat.com>> wrote:

There seems to be a larger issue at play with the 'claim' link generation with 
Badges too, Sandro has kindly opened a ticket for this 
https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues/495 


Please be prepared for a restart for EPEL elections and once there is a 
claim link for voting available I will update the elections app where you 
should be able to claim post-voting and email the lists and topic thread that 
its up and running.


What a Monday :-/

Thank you all for  your patience, its very much appreciated.

Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:40 AM Aoife Moloney mailto:amolo...@redhat.com>> wrote:

Hi folks,

Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating the link to 
the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's available. With regards to the EPEL 
election, I will likely need to restart this voting box when the issue is resolved. 
I'm not sure if its FAS related or Wiki related or both but have a ticket open with 
infra to investigate https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930 
.

Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some 
resolution on the issues.

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro mailto:li...@penguinpee.nl>> wrote:

On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
 > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
 >> Hi all,
 >>
 >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little 
delay. You
 >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog 
post[1].
 >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering 
Committee,
 >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and 
the
 >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC 
sharp so
 >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate 
interviews we
 >> have received for the various open positions, cast your vote 
and dont
 >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
 >>
 >>
 >> [1]
 >> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/ 

 >> >
 >
 > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering 
Committee.
 > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.

It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS, 
which
is were the information is coming from.

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Re: New Fedora Planet

[Pedro Moura]

>
> On this new URL, the sub-planets are currently broken. Also, how can I add
> an RSS feed to a particular sub-planet? (note that that RSS feed is
> different from the RSS feed for the main planet).
>

Thanks for pointing it out, I forgot to delete the Sub-planets drop-down.
Sub-planets were dropped, we did a research and the community voted to drop
sub-planets.
If adding more than one feed is an issue, we need to ask for an update in
noggin and consequently fasjson.
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Re: New Fedora Planet

[Pedro Moura]

>
> How can I add more feeds? Under my account I had feeds to two Packit
> blogs, one ABRT and my personal.
>
So far, users can only add just one feed. We didn't know the necessity of
having more than one because we didn't get too many answers in the
research about sub-planets.
If that is an issue, we need to ask for an update in noggin and
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Re: New Fedora Planet

[Pedro Moura]

> IIUC, you're indicating that the existing planet feed addresses will not
> be automatically migrated, and thus everyone has to update their profile,
> even if already on the Fedora Planet today ?
>

Yes, it won't be automatically migrated because planet is querying
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Review swaps

[Antoine Damhet]

Hi everyone,

I have a few packages awaiting reviews. Off course, I am willing to
exchange (yet I'm still new so be gentle :D ).

Two `pass` related packages:
* An audit plugin for the password store to find leaks or weak
  passwords, written in python
  pass-audit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249375
* The native agent for browser integration, written in go
  browserpass: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2251506

Woob, a python utilities suite allowing API/command line usage of many
websites that do not provide a public API.

  woob: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2251506

And lastly a synapse (the matrix homeserver) plugin that allows bridges
or bot to authenticate as any user on the homeserver, written in python.

  matrix-synapse-shared-secret-auth: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2251507

Cheers,

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Michael Catanzaro]

Hi,

The link to Sumantro's interview is wrong here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Nominations#Candidate_Nominations

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Alexander Ploumistos]

Thanks for the swift response, I noticed the range values have been
corrected as well.
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Re: Fedora Linux 38 End Of Life in one week

[Aoife Moloney]

The F38 schedule is now updated
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-38/f-38-key-tasks.html so this
matches the F40 one.

Sorry, I completely missed this mis-match, will take more careful note
about manually syncing schedules if dates change in one that is linked to
another.


Thanks @Ben Cotton  & @geraldo for your help!

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:09 PM Ben Cotton 
wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 3:57 PM Jan Pazdziora 
> wrote:
> >
> > Where did the different date of 2024-05-21 come from and where was
> > it tracked?
>
> It comes from the fact that the EOL date for Fedora Linux N is 4 weeks
> from the release of the Fedora Linux N+2 final, so it's tracked on the
> F40 schedule. Because the schedules are maintained as separate files,
> it's easy to forget to update N-2 when the N release date slips, which
> is likely what happened here.
>
> The EOL dates were not on the Fedora Linux N schedules until F38 for
> that very reason.
>
> At any rate, I've opened
> https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/142 for amoloney to update
> the F38 schedule.
>
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Christiano Anderson]

I can confirm that everything is working fine, thanks Aoife :-)


On 20/05/2024 16:37, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me to 
help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am pleased 
to say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in hope that 
they are! :crosses fingers:


If you have voted in either or both FESCo and EPEL elections today, 
please recast your votes in the new ballot boxes 
 as the previous ones are corrupted.


If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a claim 
link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has been 
updated and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email me 
directly and I will manually award this to you (I cant see who voted so 
I can't do this without knowing who to send it to).


Voting will close at 23:59:59 UTC on 31st May 2024, an extra day has 
been added and the schedule will be updated accordingly.



Thank you again to @Sandro  @Miro Hrončok 
 @Michal Konecny 
 @Aurelien Bompard 
 & @Tomas Hrcka  
for your help, and to everyone for your patience and understanding while 
I sorted out the chaos that was this election voting opening day!



Please let me know if you find any other anomalies and after a short 
sob, I will fix them :)


Kindest regards,
Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:53 AM Aoife Moloney > wrote:


There seems to be a larger issue at play with the 'claim' link
generation with Badges too, Sandro has kindly opened a ticket for
this https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues/495


Please be prepared for a restart for EPEL elections and once there
is a claim link for voting available I will update the elections app
where you should be able to claim post-voting and email the lists
and topic thread that its up and running.


What a Monday :-/

Thank you all for  your patience, its very much appreciated.

Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:40 AM Aoife Moloney mailto:amolo...@redhat.com>> wrote:

Hi folks,

Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating
the link to the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's
available. With regards to the EPEL election, I will likely need
to restart this voting box when the issue is resolved. I'm not
sure if its FAS related or Wiki related or both but have a
ticket open with infra to investigate
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930
.

Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some
resolution on the issues.

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro mailto:li...@penguinpee.nl>> wrote:

On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
 > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
 >> Hi all,
 >>
 >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a
little delay. You
 >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections
blog post[1].
 >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering
Committee,
 >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee
(FESCo) and the
 >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59
UTC sharp so
 >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate
interviews we
 >> have received for the various open positions, cast your
vote and dont
 >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
 >>
 >>
 >> [1]
 >>
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/ 

 >>
>
 >
 > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL
Steering Committee.
 > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.

It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name
in FAS, which
is were the information is coming from.

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libcap version minor bump to 2.70 in rawhide

[Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez]

Hi all,
I'll be updating libcap to 2.70 in rawhide. It brings the following:

* A minor enhancement to `cap` output
* A new flag `-f` to `setcap`
* Enhancements to the man pages.
* Minor cleanup in pam_cap internals


No lib API changes.

Regards,
Carlos R.F.



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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Jonathan Wright via devel]

Everything worked great for me this time including the badge :)

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 9:39 AM Aoife Moloney  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me to
> help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am pleased to
> say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in hope that they
> are! :crosses fingers:
>
> If you have voted in either or both FESCo and EPEL elections today, please
> recast your votes in the new ballot boxes
>  as the previous ones are corrupted.
>
> If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a claim
> link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has been updated
> and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email me directly and I
> will manually award this to you (I cant see who voted so I can't do this
> without knowing who to send it to).
>
> Voting will close at 23:59:59 UTC on 31st May 2024, an extra day has been
> added and the schedule will be updated accordingly.
>
>
> Thank you again to @Sandro  @Miro Hrončok
>  @Michal Konecny  @Aurelien
> Bompard  & @Tomas Hrcka  for your
> help, and to everyone for your patience and understanding while I sorted
> out the chaos that was this election voting opening day!
>
>
> Please let me know if you find any other anomalies and after a short sob,
> I will fix them :)
>
> Kindest regards,
> Aoife
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:53 AM Aoife Moloney 
> wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a larger issue at play with the 'claim' link generation
>> with Badges too, Sandro has kindly opened a ticket for this
>> https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues/495
>>
>> Please be prepared for a restart for EPEL elections and once there is a
>> claim link for voting available I will update the elections app where you
>> should be able to claim post-voting and email the lists and topic thread
>> that its up and running.
>>
>>
>> What a Monday :-/
>>
>> Thank you all for  your patience, its very much appreciated.
>>
>> Aoife
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:40 AM Aoife Moloney 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating the
>>> link to the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's available. With
>>> regards to the EPEL election, I will likely need to restart this voting box
>>> when the issue is resolved. I'm not sure if its FAS related or Wiki related
>>> or both but have a ticket open with infra to investigate
>>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some
>>> resolution on the issues.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro  wrote:
>>>
 On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
 > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
 >> Hi all,
 >>
 >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay.
 You
 >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1].
 >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee,
 >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the
 >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp
 so
 >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate interviews
 we
 >> have received for the various open positions, cast your vote and
 dont
 >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
 >>
 >>
 >> [1]
 >>
 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
 >> <
 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/>
 >
 > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering
 Committee.
 > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.

 It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS,
 which
 is were the information is coming from.

 -- Sandro

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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Aoife Moloney
>>>
>>> Fedora Operations Architect
>>>
>>> Fedora Project
>>>
>>> Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im
>>>
>>> IRC: amoloney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Aoife Moloney
>>
>> Fedora Operations Architect
>>
>> Fedora Project
>>
>> Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im
>>
>> IRC: amoloney
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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> Fedora Operations Architect
>
> Fedora Project
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> Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im
>
> IRC: amoloney
>
>
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Aoife Moloney]

Hi Folks,

After _much_ troubleshooting and some wonderful folks working with me to
help resolve the issues that littered the elections today, I am pleased to
say all issues have been resolved, or at least I live in hope that they
are! :crosses fingers:

If you have voted in either or both FESCo and EPEL elections today, please
recast your votes in the new ballot boxes
 as the previous ones are corrupted.

If you have voted in Council and/or Mindshare, and did not have a claim
link for your badge, please revisit your vote as the link has been updated
and you should be able to access it. If you can't, email me directly and I
will manually award this to you (I cant see who voted so I can't do this
without knowing who to send it to).

Voting will close at 23:59:59 UTC on 31st May 2024, an extra day has been
added and the schedule will be updated accordingly.


Thank you again to @Sandro  @Miro Hrončok
 @Michal Konecny  @Aurelien
Bompard  & @Tomas Hrcka  for your
help, and to everyone for your patience and understanding while I sorted
out the chaos that was this election voting opening day!


Please let me know if you find any other anomalies and after a short sob, I
will fix them :)

Kindest regards,
Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:53 AM Aoife Moloney  wrote:

> There seems to be a larger issue at play with the 'claim' link generation
> with Badges too, Sandro has kindly opened a ticket for this
> https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues/495
>
> Please be prepared for a restart for EPEL elections and once there is a
> claim link for voting available I will update the elections app where you
> should be able to claim post-voting and email the lists and topic thread
> that its up and running.
>
>
> What a Monday :-/
>
> Thank you all for  your patience, its very much appreciated.
>
> Aoife
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:40 AM Aoife Moloney 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating the link
>> to the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's available. With regards
>> to the EPEL election, I will likely need to restart this voting box when
>> the issue is resolved. I'm not sure if its FAS related or Wiki related or
>> both but have a ticket open with infra to investigate
>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some
>> resolution on the issues.
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro  wrote:
>>
>>> On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>>> > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay.
>>> You
>>> >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1].
>>> >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee,
>>> >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the
>>> >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp so
>>> >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate interviews
>>> we
>>> >> have received for the various open positions, cast your vote and dont
>>> >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> [1]
>>> >> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
>>> >> <
>>> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/>
>>> >
>>> > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering Committee.
>>> > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.
>>>
>>> It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS, which
>>> is were the information is coming from.
>>>
>>> -- Sandro
>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
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>>
>> Fedora Operations Architect
>>
>> Fedora Project
>>
>> Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im
>>
>> IRC: amoloney
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Aoife Moloney
>
> Fedora Operations Architect
>
> Fedora Project
>
> Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im
>
> IRC: amoloney
>
>
>

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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2024-05-20)

[Stephen Gallagher]

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org
on Matrix.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2024-05-20 19:00 UTC'

Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

 #3210 Change: Perl 5.40
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3210
APPROVED (+5, 0, -0)

#3209 Change: Node.js 22.x by default
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3209
APPROVED (+3, 0, -0)

#3208 Change: Fedora Miracle
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3208
APPROVED (+5, 0, -0)

#3207 Change: Drop Mandatory Requires on JRE
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3207
APPROVED (+4, 0, -0)


= Followups =

#3203 Change: Replace Redis with Valkey
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3203

#3205 Request exception to permit shipping pre-built, signed SGX
enclave binaries in Fedora
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3205


= New business =

#3212 Exception request to ship prebuilt macOS binaries in asahi-installer
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3212


= Open Floor =

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Re: Intent to start ARC investigation git-forge replacement

[Robby Callicotte via devel]

On Monday, May 20, 2024 7:40:51 AM CDT Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2024 at 13:29, Sérgio Basto  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2024-04-23 at 12:06 +0200, Tomas Hrcka wrote:
> > 
> > >  1. Suitability for dist-git and src.fedoraproject.org replacement
> >
> >
> >
> > Can someone explain me what is the problem of pagure ?
> 
> 
> There's been a lot of discussions about it. I believe some of the main
> problems are is it's basically unmaintained, it's not adding useful
> features and as a result is an overall burden for those running it.
> 
> 
> > please join to
> > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/2024-git-forge-evaluation/111795/20
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: Intention to retire mlocate

[Michal Sekletar]

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 6:14 PM Michal Sekletar  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We have had a plocate as a drop-in replacement for mlocate for quite a
> while now. My intention is to retire the mlocate package next week in order
> to prevent duplication and so that we can focus only on plocate
> going forward.
>

mlocate is now retired in Rawhide.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mlocate/c/7277dd5f59db126d1046a6aa5c4077a597dc?branch=rawhide


>
> Have a nice weekend,
> Michal
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Re: Intent to start ARC investigation git-forge replacement

[Peter Robinson]

On Thu, 16 May 2024 at 13:29, Sérgio Basto  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2024-04-23 at 12:06 +0200, Tomas Hrcka wrote:
> >  1. Suitability for dist-git and src.fedoraproject.org replacement
>
> Can someone explain me what is the problem of pagure ?

There's been a lot of discussions about it. I believe some of the main
problems are is it's basically unmaintained, it's not adding useful
features and as a result is an overall burden for those running it.

> please join to
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/2024-git-forge-evaluation/111795/20
>
> Thanks
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Re: Self Introduction: Mateus Rodrigues Costa

[Priscila Gutierres]

Olá Mateus! Bom ver mais brasileiros aqui! :-)


On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 11:21 PM Mateus Rodrigues Costa <
mateusrodco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Mateus Rodrigues Costa, I'm a Brazilian Programmer with a
> degree in Software Engineering but currently going for a Computer
> Engineering degree as well.
>
> I have been a Fedora Contributor since 2021, but so far I have been
> mostly contributing as part of Fedora Magazine (my articles can be
> found at https://fedoramagazine.org/author/mateusrodcosta/).
> I recently became a member of the "Brazilian Fedora Council" with a
> goal of better organizing contributions from Brazilian contributors.
>
> Recently I have created a thumbnailer, bign-handheld-thumbnailer
> (https://github.com/MateusRodCosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer) and I
> have created a spec
> (https://pagure.io/bign-handheld-thumbnailer-spec/) and I currently
> set a COPR (
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mateusrodcosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer/
> ).
>
> I'm interested in becoming a packager and packaging it myself for Fedora.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Mateus Rodrigues Costa
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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20240520.n.0 changes

[Fedora Rawhide Report]

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20240518.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20240520.n.0

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Aoife Moloney]

There seems to be a larger issue at play with the 'claim' link generation
with Badges too, Sandro has kindly opened a ticket for this
https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues/495

Please be prepared for a restart for EPEL elections and once there is a
claim link for voting available I will update the elections app where you
should be able to claim post-voting and email the lists and topic thread
that its up and running.


What a Monday :-/

Thank you all for  your patience, its very much appreciated.

Aoife

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:40 AM Aoife Moloney  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating the link
> to the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's available. With regards
> to the EPEL election, I will likely need to restart this voting box when
> the issue is resolved. I'm not sure if its FAS related or Wiki related or
> both but have a ticket open with infra to investigate
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930.
>
> Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some
> resolution on the issues.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro  wrote:
>
>> On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay. You
>> >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1].
>> >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee,
>> >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the
>> >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp so
>> >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate interviews we
>> >> have received for the various open positions, cast your vote and dont
>> >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
>> >> > >
>> >
>> > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering Committee.
>> > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.
>>
>> It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS, which
>> is were the information is coming from.
>>
>> -- Sandro
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Aoife Moloney]

Hi folks,

Apologies for the incorrect badge link. I am working on updating the link
to the 'Claim' one and will email as soon as it's available. With regards
to the EPEL election, I will likely need to restart this voting box when
the issue is resolved. I'm not sure if its FAS related or Wiki related or
both but have a ticket open with infra to investigate
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11930.

Thanks for your patience all, will update as soon as I have some resolution
on the issues.

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:02 AM Sandro  wrote:

> On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay. You
> >> can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1].
> >> We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee,
> >> Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the
> >> voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp so
> >> please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate interviews we
> >> have received for the various open positions, cast your vote and dont
> >> forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
> >> 
> >
> > Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering Committee.
> > The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.
>
> It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS, which
> is were the information is coming from.
>
> -- Sandro
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Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: Monday, 20 May 2024 (today) at 13:00 UTC

[Ankur Sinha]

Hello everyone,

Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday, 20
May at 13:00 UTC.  The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone
to attend. You can join us over on Matrix in the Fedora Meeting channel:

https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org

You can use this link to see the local time for the meeting:

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Open+NeuroFedora+Meeting&iso=20240520T13&p1=1440&ah=1

or you can use this command in a terminal:

$ date -d 'Monday, May 20, 2024 13:00 UTC'

The meeting will be chaired by @ankursinha. The agenda for the
meeting is:

- New introductions and roll call.
- Tasks from last meeting:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/latest/neurofedora
- Open Pagure tickets: 
https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
- Package health check:
https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
- Open package reviews check:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
- CompNeuro lab compose status check for F40:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
- Neuroscience query of the week
- Next meeting day, and chair.
- Open floor.

We hope to see you there!

The meeting announcement is also posted on the NeuroFedora blog here:

https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/05/20/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-20-may-1300-utc.html

You can learn more about NeuroFedora here:
https://neuro.fedoraproject.org

Cheers,

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Re: rich deps result in packages being uninstalled from buildroot

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 10:55:58AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> V Sat, May 18, 2024 at 08:20:53PM +0200, Sandro napsal(a):
> > On 16-05-2024 13:14, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > > A workaround could be rpm-build or mock to register rpm-build package in
> > > /etc/dnf/protected.d configuration files. Packages listed there are 
> > > prevented
> > > from removal no matter of --allow-erasing.
> > 
> > A bit late to the party, but I was wondering if making `add-determinism` and
> > `add-determinism-nopython` require `rpm-build` would also achieve
> > `rpm-build` being protected from removal as a workaround.
> > 
> > If either package requires it there should only be one way forward, if my
> > understanding of the issue is correct.
> > 
> That's also a possible way. Many times defining the reverse dependendency can
> be justified as (add-determinism) being a plugin (of rpm-build). It also helps
> cleaning useless plugins (add-determinism) when the framework (rpm-build) is
> uinstalled.
> 
> A drawback is creating dependency loop.

Thank you for the suggestion. I think that with the current state
things are good, so I don't plan to change things, unless we discover
some breakage.

FWIW, add-determinism is fully functional without rpm-build… I expect
that most people who use it would have rpm-build installed, but
I think it's better to not create dependency loops to keep things
flexible.

Zbyszek
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 10:46, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi all,

The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay. You 
can find all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1]. 
We have open positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee, 
Mindshare and Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the 
voting period will close on Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp so 
please do take some time to read the wonderful candidate interviews we 
have received for the various open positions, cast your vote and dont 
forget to claim your Fedora badge too!



[1] 
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/ 



Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering Committee.
The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.


It seems Troy Dawson has not filled in first and last name in FAS, which 
is were the information is coming from.


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Re: rich deps result in packages being uninstalled from buildroot

[Petr Pisar]

V Sat, May 18, 2024 at 08:20:53PM +0200, Sandro napsal(a):
> On 16-05-2024 13:14, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > A workaround could be rpm-build or mock to register rpm-build package in
> > /etc/dnf/protected.d configuration files. Packages listed there are 
> > prevented
> > from removal no matter of --allow-erasing.
> 
> A bit late to the party, but I was wondering if making `add-determinism` and
> `add-determinism-nopython` require `rpm-build` would also achieve
> `rpm-build` being protected from removal as a workaround.
> 
> If either package requires it there should only be one way forward, if my
> understanding of the issue is correct.
> 
That's also a possible way. Many times defining the reverse dependendency can
be justified as (add-determinism) being a plugin (of rpm-build). It also helps
cleaning useless plugins (add-determinism) when the framework (rpm-build) is
uinstalled.

A drawback is creating dependency loop.

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Miro Hrončok]

On 20. 05. 24 1:04, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Hi all,

The F40 elections have now officially opened after a little delay. You can find 
all of the candidate details in the Elections blog post[1]. We have open 
positions in Fedora Council, EPEL Steering Committee, Mindshare and Fedora 
Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the voting period will close on 
Thursday 30th May @ 23:59:59 UTC sharp so please do take some time to read the 
wonderful candidate interviews we have received for the various open positions, 
cast your vote and dont forget to claim your Fedora badge too!



[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/ 



Hello, there is a "None None" candidate to the EPEL Steering Committee.
The link leads to Troy Dawson (tdawson) interview.

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 10:15, Michal Konecny wrote:

could you open a ticket on badges issue tracker [0]? We will look at that.

Michal

[0] - https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues


That's not the badges issue tracker. Badges issues are tracked on 
Pagure[1]. However, there's nothing to investigate as far as I'm aware. 
The link in the voting app is not a claim link. It points to the badge's 
landing page.


[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-badges

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Sandro]

On 20-05-2024 03:02, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:

Hello,

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:06 AM Aoife Moloney  wrote:



[…]

  and dont forget to claim your Fedora badge too!


That last bit doesn't seem to be working. Was the "Claim your I Voted
badge." link always pointing to the URL of the corresponding badge
without any other parameter?


No. Claim links do not point at the badge's landing page. Something went 
wrong there and needs to be fixed. Aoife is aware.


For people who have missed out, I think you are able to revisit the 
voting app and claim your badge once the link is fixed. If not, the 
badge will be awarded to you another way.


Thanks for voting! After all, casting your vote is what's important.

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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Michal Konecny]

Hi everyone,

could you open a ticket on badges issue tracker [0]? We will look at that.

Michal

[0] - https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues

On 20. 05. 24 9:59, Marcin Szydelski wrote:

Also couldn't get the badge.

Pozdrawiam/Best regards,
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pon., 20 maj 2024 o 03:18 Jonathan Wright via devel 
 napisał(a):


I noticed the same.

On Sun, May 19, 2024, 20:03 Alexander Ploumistos
 wrote:

Hello,

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:06 AM Aoife Moloney
 wrote:
>
[…]
>  and dont forget to claim your Fedora badge too!

That last bit doesn't seem to be working. Was the "Claim your
I Voted
badge." link always pointing to the URL of the corresponding badge
without any other parameter?
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Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

[Marcin Szydelski]

Also couldn't get the badge.

Pozdrawiam/Best regards,
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pon., 20 maj 2024 o 03:18 Jonathan Wright via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> napisał(a):

> I noticed the same.
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2024, 20:03 Alexander Ploumistos <
> alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:06 AM Aoife Moloney 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> […]
>> >  and dont forget to claim your Fedora badge too!
>>
>> That last bit doesn't seem to be working. Was the "Claim your I Voted
>> badge." link always pointing to the URL of the corresponding badge
>> without any other parameter?
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