Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-11 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>
>
> Am 11.09.2011 18:18, schrieb drago01:
 Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
 any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
 with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.
>>>
>>> it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up your main
>>> system with 32-bit packages
>>
>> Not seeing what the "mess up" is really ... (having 32bit libs/apps
>> does not hurt in any way ... a chroot does use even more diskpace)
>
> but not as default installed

I didn't suggest that.
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-11 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 11.09.2011 18:18, schrieb drago01:
>>> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
>>> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
>>> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.
>>
>> it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up your main
>> system with 32-bit packages
> 
> Not seeing what the "mess up" is really ... (having 32bit libs/apps
> does not hurt in any way ... a chroot does use even more diskpace)

but not as default installed

from 1000 users only 2 using any compiler and on ALL of my machines
there is no single 32bit Lib installed and has never to be installed

for compiling generally a virtual machine is recommended instead
install tons of dependencies on the work system



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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-11 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 11:52 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
>> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
>> or directory
>>
>> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
>> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
>> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
>> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
>> searching for -lgcc_s
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
>> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libc.so when searching for
>> -lc
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
>> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
>> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
>> searching for -lgcc_s
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>>
>> Hrm...
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
>> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
>> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.
>
> it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up your main
> system with 32-bit packages

Not seeing what the "mess up" is really ... (having 32bit libs/apps
does not hurt in any way ... a chroot does use even more diskpace).
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Re: yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-08 Thread Tony Breeds
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:37:10AM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 09/08/2011 03:44 AM, Tony Breeds wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
> > yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
> > builddeps on a 64-bit system?
> 
> It's been recently implemented at upstream, see 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734983 for details.
> 
> Note that this is only possible when feeding spec-files to yum-builddep, 
> and even then it requires that spec BuildRequires are using %{_isa} 
> where relevant.

Thanks I'll test it out when it hits rawhide.

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Re: yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-08 Thread Tony Breeds
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:27:20AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:44 +1000, Tony Breeds wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
> > yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
> > builddeps on a 64-bit system?
> 
> Is 'setarch i686 yum-builddep foo' not enough?

I swear when I tried that nothing sensible happend.  However trying it again 
today
it seems to do the right thing for the 1 or 2 packages I care about.

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Re: yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-08 Thread Josh Stone
On 09/08/2011 06:27 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:44 +1000, Tony Breeds wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>  On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
>> yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
>> builddeps on a 64-bit system?
> 
> Is 'setarch i686 yum-builddep foo' not enough?

It seems rather nasty to wholly switch repo archs, when what you really
want are the multilibs as they exist in the x84_64 repo.  For instance,
you need glibc-devel.i686, but pkgconfig.x86_64 will do just fine.

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Re: yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:44 +1000, Tony Breeds wrote:
> Hi All,
>   On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
> yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
> builddeps on a 64-bit system?

Is 'setarch i686 yum-builddep foo' not enough?

- ajax


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Re: yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/08/2011 03:44 AM, Tony Breeds wrote:
> Hi All,
>   On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
> yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
> builddeps on a 64-bit system?

It's been recently implemented at upstream, see 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734983 for details.

Note that this is only possible when feeding spec-files to yum-builddep, 
and even then it requires that spec BuildRequires are using %{_isa} 
where relevant.

- Panu -

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yum-builddep (Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora)

2011-09-07 Thread Tony Breeds
Hi All,
On a related but different note.  How hard would it be to get
yum-builddep to take an --arch arg to that we can esily get the 32-bit
builddeps on a 64-bit system?

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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up your main
> system with 32-bit packages is to use mock: you can use mock -r
> fedora-16-i386 --shell to give yourself interactive access to a nice
> clean 32-bit buildroot, then install all the devel packages and
> compilers you need, and build your code. Might not be what you want, but
> I thought it was worth mentioning.

I don't think yum will run inside the chroot by default so make sure
you install everything you need on the front end. I usually do it like
this (some steps may be able to be combined, but it works, so I
haven't experimented).

mock -r  --init
mock -r  --install 
mock -r  --shell

The first two lines are also useful if you run into a situation where
you're working on a review request which has dependencies that are not
in the repos yet (i.e., may also be under review).

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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 11:52 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
> or directory
> 
> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
> searching for -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libc.so when searching for
> -lc
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
> searching for -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> Hrm...
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.

it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up your main
system with 32-bit packages is to use mock: you can use mock -r
fedora-16-i386 --shell to give yourself interactive access to a nice
clean 32-bit buildroot, then install all the devel packages and
compilers you need, and build your code. Might not be what you want, but
I thought it was worth mentioning.
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:04:06 -0400, NM (Nathaniel) wrote:

> That was what I thought... Sot it was the first thing I tried (note,
> this is F16):
> $ sudo yum install glibc-devel.i686
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit,
> remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-
>   : leaves, versionlock
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * fedora: www.gtlib.gatech.edu
>  * updates: mirrors.servercentral.net
>  * updates-testing: mirror.fdcservers.net
> Setting up Install Process
> No package glibc-devel.i686 available.
> Error: Nothing to do

The full show, please. "yum list glibc-devel" at least. Plus
any attempts at pruning your Yum plugins and querying the repositories.

http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/development/16/x86_64/os/Packages/glibc-devel-2.14.90-4.i686.rpm

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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:23:11 -0400
> Nathaniel McCallum  wrote:
>
>> I don't appear to have any i[356]86 packages in any of the repos on my
>> F16 box. Is there an rpm I'm missing?
>
> No, it should show them out of the box.
>
> Does:
>
> yum --noplugins list glibc-devel.i686
>
> work?

Yes, It does! Which plugin would filter those out?
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:23:11 -0400
Nathaniel McCallum  wrote:

> I don't appear to have any i[356]86 packages in any of the repos on my
> F16 box. Is there an rpm I'm missing?

No, it should show them out of the box. 

Does: 

yum --noplugins list glibc-devel.i686

work?

do you have any excludes= in /etc/yum.conf or /etc/yum.repos.d/* ?

kevin


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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> I don't appear to have any i[356]86 packages in any of the repos on my
> F16 box. Is there an rpm I'm missing?

How are you making this determination? At first glance, this mirror[1] 
has 32-bit and 64-bit binaries.

[1] 
http://mirror.hiwaay.net/pub/fedora/linux/development/16/x86_64/os/Packages/
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ricky Zhou  wrote:
> On 2011-09-07 12:04:06 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>> That was what I thought... Sot it was the first thing I tried (note,
>> this is F16):
>> $ sudo yum install glibc-devel.i686
>> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit,
>> remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-
>>               : leaves, versionlock
>> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>>  * fedora: www.gtlib.gatech.edu
>>  * updates: mirrors.servercentral.net
>>  * updates-testing: mirror.fdcservers.net
>> Setting up Install Process
>> No package glibc-devel.i686 available.
>> Error: Nothing to do
> Strange - just tried a yum clean all followed by yum install
> glibc-devel.i686 libgcc.i686 on Kevin's F16 test machine - maybe
> whatever issue with glibc-devel in the repos has been fixed now?

I don't appear to have any i[356]86 packages in any of the repos on my
F16 box. Is there an rpm I'm missing?
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2011-09-07 12:04:06 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> That was what I thought... Sot it was the first thing I tried (note,
> this is F16):
> $ sudo yum install glibc-devel.i686
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit,
> remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-
>   : leaves, versionlock
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * fedora: www.gtlib.gatech.edu
>  * updates: mirrors.servercentral.net
>  * updates-testing: mirror.fdcservers.net
> Setting up Install Process
> No package glibc-devel.i686 available.
> Error: Nothing to do
Strange - just tried a yum clean all followed by yum install
glibc-devel.i686 libgcc.i686 on Kevin's F16 test machine - maybe
whatever issue with glibc-devel in the repos has been fixed now?

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Ricky Zhou  wrote:
>> On 2011-09-07 11:52:58 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>>> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
>>> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
>>> or directory
>>>
>>> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
>>> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
>> I don't think you should need to copy files manually like that - just
>> install glibc-devel.i686 and libgcc.i686.
>
> That was what I thought... Sot it was the first thing I tried (note,
> this is F16):
> $ sudo yum install glibc-devel.i686
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit,
> remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-
>              : leaves, versionlock
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * fedora: www.gtlib.gatech.edu
>  * updates: mirrors.servercentral.net
>  * updates-testing: mirror.fdcservers.net
> Setting up Install Process
> No package glibc-devel.i686 available.
> Error: Nothing to do

Could this be related to the recent events surrounding glibc that
caused RPMs to be pulled from the repo?
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Ricky Zhou  wrote:
> On 2011-09-07 11:52:58 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
>> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
>> or directory
>>
>> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
>> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
> I don't think you should need to copy files manually like that - just
> install glibc-devel.i686 and libgcc.i686.

That was what I thought... Sot it was the first thing I tried (note,
this is F16):
$ sudo yum install glibc-devel.i686
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit,
remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-
  : leaves, versionlock
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * fedora: www.gtlib.gatech.edu
 * updates: mirrors.servercentral.net
 * updates-testing: mirror.fdcservers.net
Setting up Install Process
No package glibc-devel.i686 available.
Error: Nothing to do
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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/09/11 16:52, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:

> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
> or directory
>
> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
> into the right place and run the command above again I get:

Installing the 32 bit glibc-devel package would probably have worked better.

> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.

Well you can, but you do need things like glibc-devel.i686 to do it...

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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:52:58AM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
> or directory
> 
> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
> searching for -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libc.so when searching for
> -lc
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
> /usr/bin/ld: skipping
> incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
> searching for -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> Hrm...
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.

No, it is a user error.  The packaging goal is that nobody is forced to have
32-bit packages installed on x86_64 (and similarly for other architectures).
So, if you want to compile/link 32-bit packages, you need to install a
minimal set of 32-bit packages (at least
yum install glibc-devel.i686 libgcc.i686
).

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Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2011-09-07 11:52:58 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> "gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
> or directory
> 
> If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
> into the right place and run the command above again I get:
I don't think you should need to copy files manually like that - just
install glibc-devel.i686 and libgcc.i686.

Thanks,
Ricky


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Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
"gcc -m32 -o foo foo.c" gives me:
/usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: fatal error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file
or directory

If I copy the gnu/stubs-32.h file from the 32bit glibc-devel package
into the right place and run the command above again I get:
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/ld: skipping
incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
searching for -lgcc_s
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libc.so when searching for
-lc
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
/usr/bin/ld: skipping
incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/libgcc_s.so when
searching for -lgcc_s
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Hrm...

Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of
any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program
with no deps as 32bit on 64bit.

Nathaniel
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