Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Hans de Goede]

Hi all,

I've been following rawhide for the last few weeks to test some F31
things. Now that we've branched I've updated my .repo files to point to
the normal fedora repos and disabled the rawhide ones, but still
dnf update wants to install a whole load of .fc32 packages.

I've already manually updated to fedora-release-31-0.10 and cleared
my dnf cache, but that does not help.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Jeandet Alexis]

Hi,

I got the same and didn't take time to ask, I would also be interested
in the answer.

Here is what I get https://pastebin.com/z5PYX9Be

Best regards,
Alexis.
Le lundi 19 août 2019 à 12:04 +0200, Hans de Goede a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been following rawhide for the last few weeks to test some F31
> things. Now that we've branched I've updated my .repo files to point
> to
> the normal fedora repos and disabled the rawhide ones, but still
> dnf update wants to install a whole load of .fc32 packages.
> 
> I've already manually updated to fedora-release-31-0.10 and cleared
> my dnf cache, but that does not help.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Leigh Scott]

There is no f31 repo yet 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so perhaps 
mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Leigh Scott]

> There is no f31 repo yet 
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.

It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.

https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Adrian Reber]

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
> > There is no f31 repo yet 
> > https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
> > perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
> 
> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
> 
> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch

For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.

Adrian
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 8/19/19 1:13 PM, Adrian Reber wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
>>> There is no f31 repo yet 
>>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
>>> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
>>
>> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
>>
>> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
> 
> For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
> had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
> point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.

Except there is not a correct repository to point to.

Until we have a f31 compose...we can't point to that f31 compose. ;)

kevin




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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Adrian Reber]

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 01:18:09PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 8/19/19 1:13 PM, Adrian Reber wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
> >>> There is no f31 repo yet 
> >>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
> >>> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
> >>
> >> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
> >>
> >> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
> > 
> > For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
> > had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
> > point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.
> 
> Except there is not a correct repository to point to.
> 
> Until we have a f31 compose...we can't point to that f31 compose. ;)

Ah, so I was too fast removing the redirects. I have added them back, so
that 31 still points to rawhide.

Adrian
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:23:49PM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 01:18:09PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On 8/19/19 1:13 PM, Adrian Reber wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
> > >>> There is no f31 repo yet 
> > >>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
> > >>> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
> > >>
> > >> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
> > >>
> > >> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
> > > 
> > > For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
> > > had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
> > > point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.
> > 
> > Except there is not a correct repository to point to.
> > 
> > Until we have a f31 compose...we can't point to that f31 compose. ;)
> 
> Ah, so I was too fast removing the redirects. I have added them back, so
> that 31 still points to rawhide.

That's not good either. People who want to follow branched
(and many people do, esp. from the QA teams), will get packages from F32
which they shouldn't.

I think broken links are prefereable to getting redirected to the wrong
place.

Zbyszek
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[David Jeremias Vásquez Sicay]

Yes. I  have the same problem; but is persistent.  It destroyed my build system 
for F31;  includes my "mock" configs... Also, other problem the gpg keys isn't 
published... I disabled the gpg verification, I removed 
fedora-repos-rawhide...; is bad.

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/qJZYdBFXpePBlf5HFuPoHg/raw

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Here we can see various super important packages as glibc glib2  fedora-repos  
and  fedora-repos-rawhide who is installed automatic...

Here the full log...
https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/0~Afq9YLy0Ma2TU4lsyzqA/raw

Is time for the release engning team make a fast movements...   
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 8/19/19 3:31 PM, David Jeremias Vásquez Sicay wrote:
> Yes. I  have the same problem; but is persistent.  It destroyed my build 
> system for F31;  includes my "mock" configs... Also, other problem the gpg 
> keys isn't published... I disabled the gpg verification, I removed 
> fedora-repos-rawhide...; is bad.
> 
> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/qJZYdBFXpePBlf5HFuPoHg/raw
> 
> --
> 
> Here we can see various super important packages as glibc glib2  fedora-repos 
>  and  fedora-repos-rawhide who is installed automatic...
> 
> Here the full log...
> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/0~Afq9YLy0Ma2TU4lsyzqA/raw
> 
> Is time for the release engning team make a fast movements...

I'm sorry you ran into so many troubles. I'd really advise in cases like
this moving forward that you try not to panic and relax and let things
get sorted out before trying more and more dire fixes.

If I could magically wave a wand and have a f31 compose I sure would.
I worked on it some this weekend, and got past one issue onto another.

I think we have that solved now, so another compose is running.

Please stand by.

kevin




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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Petr Mensik]

Hi Adrian,

I think this redirection is cause of breakage on rawhide machines. I
think we must be able to first serve separate repositories. Only then it
can proceed to increase of version in new rawhide.

My point is, n+1 has to be always signed by old key served in fedora and
updates repositories for that version. If next branching from rawhide
should be smooth:

1. new key has to exist in advance
2. n+1 has to keep old key that previous rawhide started with. No
package in fedora or updates or updates-testing repos should contain
package signed by n+2 key. n+2 key (and rawhide) can be used for signing
only after they are separate and n+1 repo is ready. Until that, only n+1
key must be used.

What are use cases when redirects are used? Would it make more sense to
redirect it opposite way, until rawhide is ready?

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,
Petr

On 8/19/19 10:13 PM, Adrian Reber wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
>>> There is no f31 repo yet 
>>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
>>> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
>>
>> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
>>
>> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
> 
> For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
> had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
> point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.
> 
>   Adrian
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Leigh Scott]

> On 8/19/19 3:31 PM, David Jeremias Vásquez Sicay wrote:

> Please stand by.

Is the beta freeze going to be delayed because of this? 
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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 8/19/19 1:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:23:49PM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 01:18:09PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On 8/19/19 1:13 PM, Adrian Reber wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:59:49AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
>> There is no f31 repo yet 
>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/ so
>> perhaps mirror-manager is redirecting f31 to rawhide.
>
> It is mirror manager doing the redirection to rawhide.
>
> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch

 For convenience there are repository redirects from n+1 to rawhide. I
 had to remove them manually and in a few hours mirrormanager should
 point to the correct repositories. If not, please open a ticket.
>>>
>>> Except there is not a correct repository to point to.
>>>
>>> Until we have a f31 compose...we can't point to that f31 compose. ;)
>>
>> Ah, so I was too fast removing the redirects. I have added them back, so
>> that 31 still points to rawhide.
> 
> That's not good either. People who want to follow branched
> (and many people do, esp. from the QA teams), will get packages from F32
> which they shouldn't.
> 
> I think broken links are prefereable to getting redirected to the wrong
> place.

Yeah, probibly so. :(

I think next branching we should look at perhaps disabling rawhide
composes until branched completes. Thats kind of a big hammer, but it
would avoid some of the pain.

kevin




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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 8/20/19 8:19 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
>> On 8/19/19 3:31 PM, David Jeremias Vásquez Sicay wrote:
> 
>> Please stand by.
> 
> Is the beta freeze going to be delayed because of this? 

Good question. Can be brought up at the next fesco meeting if there's
folks that want more time...

kevin




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Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

[Lukas Ruzicka]

I totally agree with you.

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