Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-12 Thread Patrick Creech
The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.

The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts on 
pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.

This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as there 
have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora.

Packages being orphaned:
- pulp
- pulp-rpm
- pulp-puppet
- pulp-ostree
- pulp-docker
- pulp-python
- python-crane

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Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-12 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:

The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.

The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts on 
pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.

This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as there 
have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in fedora.


If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much.

Packages being orphaned:
- pulp
- pulp-rpm
- pulp-puppet
- pulp-ostree
- pulp-docker
- pulp-python
- python-crane



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Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick Creech
On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:
> > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.
> > 
> > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts 
> > on pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.
> > 
> > This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as 
> > there have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in 
> > fedora.
> 
> If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much.

Ah, I was under the (possibly incorrect?) assumption that orphaning was the 
beginning step in retiring? 

The resources I saw really only said that to retire it had to be orphaned, or 
at least that's what I gleaned from those articles.

Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and 
the rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'

> > Packages being orphaned:
> > - pulp
> > - pulp-rpm
> > - pulp-puppet
> > - pulp-ostree
> > - pulp-docker
> > - pulp-python
> > - python-crane
> 
> 
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Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick Creech

> Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and 
> the rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'

I did a little more digging this morning, and found the retire steps.  I have 
retired on master the same packages listed below.  Apologies for the confusion.

> > > Packages being orphaned:
> > > - pulp
> > > - pulp-rpm
> > > - pulp-puppet
> > > - pulp-ostree
> > > - pulp-docker
> > > - pulp-python
> > > - python-crane
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Re: Orphaning/Intent to orphan the entire pulp stack

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Patrick Creech  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2018-11-13 at 07:56 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 12. 11. 18 22:37, Patrick Creech wrote:
> > > The pulp team is orphaning the pulp 2 stack in fedora's repositories.
> > >
> > > The upstream project is focusing the majority of it's development efforts 
> > > on pulp 3, and is removing fedora support for the pulp 2 line.
> > >
> > > This will also assist other package's transitions to python 3 only, as 
> > > there have been cases where pulp prevented them from dropping python 2 in 
> > > fedora.
> >
> > If you orphan it, but not retire it, it won't help much.
>
> Ah, I was under the (possibly incorrect?) assumption that orphaning was the 
> beginning step in retiring?
>
> The resources I saw really only said that to retire it had to be orphaned, or 
> at least that's what I gleaned from those articles.
>
> Thoughts on how to proceed, since a good portion are already 'orphaned', and 
> the rest are waiting on action from the other 'owner'
>

It is usually correct when you have software which can be kept up by
someone else. If the code is dead and to be replaced by another.. then
retiring is correct.


> > > Packages being orphaned:
> > > - pulp
> > > - pulp-rpm
> > > - pulp-puppet
> > > - pulp-ostree
> > > - pulp-docker
> > > - pulp-python
> > > - python-crane
> >
> >
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